Choosing an electric meat grinder

And they gave me SATURN and I don't like it and I use it as a shredder. Since it is not like a meat grinder. And I don’t know what to do with her ... can anyone tell me SATURN .............. ........................ ..

Sorry, I don’t perceive the “Saturn” technique at all ...
Do not do anything with it, put it in a box and slide it into the far corner. Or just think of it as a shredder.
Consider that you were presented with a shredder. Look for a good grinder for yourself.

I also have HP and MV Panasonic and I'm happy, but I didn't like the Panasonic meat grinder. To whom what

the Panasonic meat grinder did not like it.

Why didn't you like it? This is my first meat grinder, it seems to grind normally.

As it grinds, I can't say, it was delivered to me, I looked (you can't see it from the pictures and videos), how big and loud it is, the next day I went - passed it (fortunately, not far away) Brown was familiar to me, my mother has this, here it is and bought it, the size and quality suited me.

At the moment, I stopped at the choice of the DEX DMG 180 meat grinder. The optimal ratio of price = power = productivity is 3 kg / min. Power 2 thousand watts.
Features here: 🔗
Does anyone have one? Is it worth considering or looking else?

A slow cooker, a blender, DEH's scales are good. But meat grinders, juicers, etc. are not yet available, not in the know.

I have a previous model. With a shredder that broke right away. Juicers are still to her. Melet is fine, I bought a sausage attachment on the market, since it comes with a kebbe only. Only in the PMM is not mine.

SOS! I urgently need a meat grinder. Yesterday I gathered 3 kg of meat for minced meat, and the ancient Belarusian "Helper" hiked. The son disassembled it - it cannot be repaired, the gears are worn out. What to buy? Money is not a pity, the question is what exactly to buy. After Hypatia praised Panasonic, I thought that it should be bought. TaTa writes that Panasonic is very loud - my former Assistant got me sick with her "songs", now I want something powerful, but humane for the ears. Are there such?
Hypatia, and Panasonic is threshing sinewy-film meat calmly?

the ancient Belarusian "Helper" hiked

So I'm waiting for this from day to day ... So I'm also waiting for advice!

[Galya]

Hypatia, and Panasonic is threshing sinewy-film meat calmly?

Galya, I haven't used a meat grinder yet. It needs to be washed from grease. On the Yandex market, they complained that the Japanese greased it from the heart, did not regret it. So for now, I'm going to be brave. According to reviews, this grinder "eats" everything. But it weighs decently (5.9 kg) and not a toy (quite large). One of the requirements I had was to cope with a large volume of meat at a time (for example, half a pig).

Here are 2 videos. The first one is devoted to "Test purchase", where the simpler model from Panasonic was the winner. In the second, the meat grinder is dashingly gnawing at my pencils. The noise level can also be assessed there. Personally, it does not bother me, because it will work only for its intended purpose, that is, only with a meat grinder, and not with a shredder. If you also need a shredder, then it probably makes sense to take a closer look at Zelmer.

In a test purchase, buyers compared: Delonghi is the noisiest, Tefal is the largest. And they said about Panasonic that it was quiet.
In the second video, a meat grinder is being tested, but something is making an unrealistically loud noise, probably the camera-microphone is unsuccessfully installed when recording the video or something else.
Recently I was grinding 3 kg of meat on my own. One vein only remained on the knife after work.

[Ipatiya]

but something he has unrealistically loud noises, probably the camera-microphone when recording a video is poorly installed or something else.

If in life it makes no louder noise than in the video, then I will stand it. My ex had been screaming so much lately that I wanted to run away from the kitchen.
Girls, Ipatiya, Taia, thanks for the tips, videos and comments. All! Resolved! I take Panasonic!

Good luck with your choice!
In principle, I did not campaign for Panasonic. For the reason that I have nothing to compare with to say, here, I used that model for her, but not for this one ... At the moment, everything suits me in my meat grinder. Previously, I generally thought why I needed an electric one, my husband would grind everything for manual.
From the assortment that exactly we sell, I considered it the most successful. I do not need a set of any graters and squeezers for a meat grinder, this also influenced.

[Galya]

In the second video, a meat grinder is being tested, but something is making an unrealistically loud noise, probably the camera-microphone is poorly installed when recording the video or something else.

Just checked the noise against a Bosch cube combine. A meat grinder is noisier than a combine, but not much. It's just that if there was also a shredder, then probably such a noise would be annoying. But when the meat grinder works for a few minutes or once every six months at an accelerated pace, then it makes no difference. The fully metal mechanism is evidently affecting, and it is more important for me. Plus it is the most powerful grinder. I also saw the latest Philips series. Very famously cracked down on meat! But I didn't like the switch. One must constantly tremble over it and it is not difficult to break it. Yes, and not quieter than Panasonic. In general, until recently, I resisted the choice of the Japanese meat grinder. Angular design, as if from the last century, no additional attachments and shredders, the power seems to be less. But as soon as I bought it, I just fell in love. As the saying goes, "you take it in your hands, you sweep a thing." Especially after I went shopping and looked at the playfulness of the others. After all, now manufacturers are very cunning, they include accelerated aging in their products so that we can run to buy again. And this is very tiring. I bought a fancy stylish and cool LG refrigerator. And it's not yet 5 years old. And in the freezer, the protrusions on which the baskets rest were exposed to the foam (or maybe some other insulator). The plastic is very thin. Even in a meat grinder, plastic is 3-4 times thicker.

Girls, Ipatiya, Taia, thanks for the tips, videos and comments. All! Resolved! I take Panasonic!

Galya, always happy to help! Share your impressions later.

I would take a Panasonic, I sit quietly dreaming about it, saving up money And it does not make much noise. As Dex starts, it will creak too
So if the funds allow, then it is better to immediately take a worthwhile thing.

I would take Panasonic, I sit quietly dreaming about it, saving up money

By the way, my Panasonic is not the most expensive one yet. I took it for 6990. But the top-end "Phillips" and "Moulinex", which are not better, are more expensive than 10 thousand rubles. At first I was seduced by "Moulinex", and then I read on "ozone" that the metal body is aluminum. It's the same with Phillips.

Our Panasonic MK-MG 1500 costs 140 $ (mine), and the Panasonic MK 1300 is cheaper. They say that the Panasonic MK 1000 model is enough for a home kitchen, and it is even cheaper.

I just took Dex a year ago. She needed a meat grinder, but Panas did not have enough money to buy it. Now they won't understand me at home if I buy another meat grinder right away. In the summer I'll give my mom, and buy myself a new one. I'll also decide on the model. We rarely make minced meat, several times a year.

All! Resolved! I take Panasonic!

And look for MK-G1800 🔗

The link is soooo expensive ...

[Galya]

If in life it makes no louder noise than in the video, then I will stand it. My ex had been screaming so much lately that I wanted to run away from the kitchen.

Galya, here is the noise of a meat grinder when grinding meat. In general, when checking before buying, it is better to listen to if the noise is annoying.

The link is soooo expensive ...

Taia, in company stores it is always expensive. Panasonic is not original in this respect. There are offers on the Yandex market that are much cheaper.

N-dya, almost 2500 hryvnia is the latest model of Panasonic. It's always like this - you want it hard, and it pricks (price)

[Julia]

Julia, the penultimate model Panasonic MK-MG1500WTQ is no worse than its older sister, which, according to reviews, is more for hunters, but costs 2 times cheaper in Ukrainian online stores. Especially if you rarely do minced meat. This model Panasonic MK-G1500PWTQ with the same characteristics is even cheaper. Only the place of production is not clear. In general, on the Russian site Panasonic write that 2 modifications are made in Japan: 1500 and 1800.

Thank you all for your responsiveness and help! I have already ordered Panasonic MK-G1800, they will bring it tomorrow. I barely found it in stock at a more or less acceptable price for 7380r. (At the same time, she grabbed the Boshevsky kettle so as not to get up twice)

[Galya]

Galya, we are waiting for impressions!

[Julia]

Julia, the penultimate model Panasonic MK-MG1500WTQ is no worse than its older sister, which, according to reviews, is more for hunters, but costs 2 times cheaper in Ukrainian online stores. Especially if you rarely do minced meat. This model Panasonic MK-G1500PWTQ with the same characteristics is even cheaper. Only the place of production is not clear. In general, on the Russian website Panasonic they write that 2 modifications are made in Japan: 1500 and 1800.

I have such a character that if you buy a good thing, then the latest model is desirable.In any case, I should dream before the summer.

Julia, I found such a review from DEHE. Maybe you will try to do it and write us the result? And then I also think about buying.

Having disassembled the gearbox, we saw solid plastic gears (noiseless operation), took them off, cleaned them and filled in with technical vaseline. Began to work quieter.

and so

But we bought a knife at the bazaar for a manual a la Soviet meat grinder, which blocked all the holes in the mesh with its blade, sharpened it to size and now we are using it. In this version, the quality of cutting meat is awesome, better than tefal, which is twice as expensive.

Today I went shopping and really untwisted and compared the insides of the meat grinders in my opinion and touch. So, DEX-180 is just a tank compared to the babies of other companies. There is such a powerful auger and a thick massive knife. The only thing you want is that the juicer is a bonus and graters. So I'm thinking of taking a DEKH-180 tank or another model with graters
And by the way, in DEKH the part from the meat grinder, which is inserted into the motor, is an iron pin, as in Moulinex, and not a plastic cone, as in Zelmera. I don't know which is better, but in my opinion an iron pin is a sturdy construction.

And by the way, in DEKH the part from the meat grinder, which is inserted into the motor, is an iron pin, as in Moulinex, and not a plastic cone, as in Zelmera. I don't know which is better, but in my opinion an iron pin is a sturdy construction.

The "plastic cone" is the grinder fuse. It breaks down when overloaded, but the engine remains unharmed. The fuse itself is cheap and consumable. If the connection to the auger is metal, then the motor is protected either by an automatic circuit breaker or by a special heating element (when the temperature rises, the motor turns off).

Keti, Dex grinds meat well, no complaints. But the shredder did not last much. Inside the drum with a grater, a plastic piece is wound, so it burst and now the grater does not turn.

Also, today in one store a girl-seller enlightened me (for which thanks to her) that the data on the meat grinder is indicated on the bottom. And then I went, turned all the meat grinders upside down and read what power they actually were. So, in this regard, the question is - for example, the maximum power (with a corkscrew) is written 1500 W, and the nominal below is 500 W. These 500 W is the power with which the meat will be chopped or the consumed electricity (or it's the same thing). Enlighten pliz

[Keti]

Keti, the indicator of the maximum power is when jammed. And so it is floating depending on the load, that is, the power can fluctuate within the limits, say, from 500 to 1500 W. At least this is the case with a good meat grinder.Probably cheaper models have a narrower power range. For example, the video compares meat grinders with a difference in power of only 200 watts. But the quality of the grinding is dramatically different. Really the 1st meat grinder lacks power of 1.3 kW? Probably it has a narrower range (let's say 300 - 800 W), and the motor reaches 1300 W only when it is jammed.
I am an amateur and I can be wrong. Can men speak out?

Usually, at the bottom of the grinder, the NOMINAL power is indicated, which develops under normal operating conditions without unnecessary effort. The box itself and the characteristics indicate the maximum power.
For interest, I measured the power of the meat grinder at various operating modes. Even tough meat and small veins are ground at 200-400 W. The meat grinder strains most of all not from solid, but from viscous products. The auger seems to stick. Well, or it will jam if the bone gets caught.
So, if you do not intend to strongly "force" the technique with unnecessarily "heavy" products, power and 1000-1300 will be enough. If you do not know what you will grind, then take it with a margin, because long work at increased power reduces the service life.
Another thing is that many undignified firms deliberately overestimate the real capacity much than they mislead.
And the Panasonic 1800 is good because, although it is plastic on the outside, the mechanisms inside are iron. Almost all manufacturers do the opposite - a silumin-aluminum case and plastic gears inside.

Panasonic MK-G1800 has a 330 W motor and this power is not on the shaft but consumed, in principle, it can be considered the real power of the engine, MK-MG1000WTQ has a 200 W engine

It remains to find out what is the real engine power of other meat grinders. And it turns out that Panasonic is almost an outsider.

I had a meat grinder from Soviet times with a power of 240 watts. I just twisted the meat with no bones - no problem. Beef with veins - just on the way. Productivity 0.4 kg. per minute. Slowly but surely. So engine power is not an indicator of performance.

I have a meat grinder Brown, she is already 10 years old. I specially looked - max. power 1300W, and consumed 800. Melet is good, but roars-sho beast.

It remains to find out what is the real engine power of other meat grinders. And it turns out that Panasonic is almost an outsider.

Amazingly, one thing is explained to you, but the conclusion is the opposite.
I wrote - the usual power consumption for average meat is about 200 W, with tough meat the power rises for a short time to 400 W. This is enough for work. Panasonic has just such a rated power - 220-330 W. Why develop a lot of power during normal work. In this case, just Panasonic is more economical and rational.
We're talking about the power consumption of the grinder. It is that vacuum cleaners have power consumption and suction power in aerowatts, which differ by 3.5-4 times.
For meat grinders, the power of normal operation and maximum (jam) are applicable. So it is Panas that gives out the necessary power when working, while having a sufficient supply in case of difficult products.

Productivity 0.4 kg. per minute. Slowly but surely. So engine power is not an indicator of performance.

Right. We are not recycling tons. And it is impossible to calculate the exact amount of recycling. Well, a lot depends on the meat itself, on the size of the holes in the grate ...
Another thing is that the meat grinder does not work for a long time at the power limit.

Amazingly, one thing is explained to you, but the conclusion is the opposite.

What is the opposite conclusion? And I am obliged to draw conclusions that suit you or what? In the video on meat grinders, the Brown model with the declared working (not maximum) power of 800 W can barely cope with sinewy meat. Panasonic 1800 has more than 2 times lower working power, but sinewy meat is not a problem for him. Do you see any contradictions?

Again.I’m explaining to you. You concluded - since the Panasonic meat grinder has an operating power of only 220-330 W, then this is worse than other models. I explained to you that REALLY the power consumption when grinding even sinewy meat will be a maximum of 400 watts. I measured it myself with an ammeter. And Panas's power is vporlne enough, but not this "sucks". 1300-1500 is the peak power that only occurs when jammed. Panasonic made the nominal power relatively small, because why do it more.
You can't trust the videos completely. They are made by amateurs, not professionals. Chat with store consultants, they will tell you such nonsense. There, ignoramuses work, and the video was made in a hurry by people who were far from real work with equipment, but only after reading the instructions. They didn't even bother to clarify that there are differences between nominal power and peak power.
The Brown 1300 and 1500 Meat Grinder will cope with the same meat EQUALLY. In the video, the person who works at the meat grinder has no idea how to work on it. The meat is not pushed by force, the pusher should only push the meat onto the auger, and not push it. This will lead to creasing and worse performance. And in the place where the vein goes, it must first be cut. Give me the meat on the roller and I can easily grind it in Brown 1300.

Again. I’m explaining to you. You concluded - since the Panasonic meat grinder has an operating power of only 220-330 W, then this is worse than that of other models.

Stunned! Where did you see this in my message? I meant that other manufacturers are cunning with the power of the meat grinder. And not only with them. Hand blenders are a prime example.

igorechek

I was not too lazy, I went and turned over my brown 1300, the power is 800W

It remains to find out what is the real engine power of other meat grinders. And it turns out that Panasonic is almost an outsider.

What did you mean when you said this about Panasonic?
As I understand it, it is precisely the low declared rated power - only 220-330 W compared to other companies.

I was not too lazy, I went and turned over my brown 1300, the power is 800W

Well, what does this indicate? The fact that Brown will be better at processing than Panasonic is the same with a peak power of 1300 W, but with a nominal only 220 W?
If you think so, then this is a delusion ...

What did you mean when you said this about Panasonic?

Didn't you notice the smiley at the end of the message? And she meant that Panasonic, with its honesty, looks like an outsider when the others are godlessly lying.

Then it's another matter ..
I once read various expert examination data for measuring different data from different devices and comparing them with those declared by the manufacturer. There is such a deception! And in terms of power, the overestimation is almost 2 times, in order to lure the buyer.
And with the work of Panasonic and Brown, I came across and work. I will not give preference to anyone. I respect both of them.

igorechek

I do not know what this indicates, I am stating a fact that is not reflected in the instructions. I don't think Panasonic will do a bad job. I chose brown for other reasons and wrote about it, maybe for someone the size also matters

Clear. It's just that this power indicated -800 W is of little use when choosing a meat grinder and can be misleading when choosing. I just wanted to say that the same Panasonic, with the indicated power of 220 or 330 W (for a more powerful model), will cope with meat no worse.
I myself have enough Brown technique and I like it in many ways. For those who will make homemade sausages or kubbe, the Brown model is more interesting, and for Panasonic it will be necessary to purchase these attachments separately.
But nozzles for other meat grinders such as shredders, etc. for a meat grinder, I consider it an extra enticement. There are other more convenient devices for this.

But nozzles for other meat grinders such as shredders, etc. for a meat grinder, I consider it an extra enticement. There are other more convenient devices for this.

I absolutely agree with this. My old Belarusian "Helper" had a whole "suitcase" with different graters, but they were terribly uncomfortable. It's good that you can throw them out now. And maybe who needs it for the collection? - I can give.

Yesterday, while I was looking for Panasonic-1800 on the Internet, I was offered a spare knife. What do you think? badly needed? Where I ended up ordering spare knives, there were no ... while I was choosing a meat grinder on the internet I saw a picture that it was not the knife itself that was being ground, but the grate ... but there were no spare grates in the stores .. And the grates do not fit from the old meat grinders to Panasonic? haven’t arrived yet, I can’t decide on the bars

Peace be with you bakers!

lga-- --- And from old meat grinders the grilles don't fit Panasonic?

here is also a trick from the manufacturer: yes: the plug is such that only native knives and lattices fit

When I was choosing I drew attention to this and it played an important role in the choice

I have heels of knives from the old \ still manual \ meat grinder lying around my neighbor sharpened them at work
- I use it and I don’t know grief

Peace be with you bakers!

In the video on meat grinders, the Brown model with the declared working (not maximum) power of 800 W can barely cope with sinewy meat. Panasonic 1800 has more than 2 times lower operating power, but sinewy meat is not a problem for him. Do you see any contradictions?

depending on who paid for the video