Nafanyaf
Quote: subiata

I already have a sad experience with a cube cutter in Vitek Blender. Therefore, I would not dare to cut raw vegetables in it.

Oh, why sad? I haven't tried cutting raw, but boiled ones are fine. It's just that the cubes are large for my taste, so I want to know how things are with the cube cutter in Zelmer. Moreover, inserting such a nozzle into a meat grinder is much easier than in Vitek.
subiata
So do not try it, it will last longer. The boiled cut is wonderful. I tried raw carrots, cut with difficulty. And that was the beginning of the end. The gearbox broke from grinding minced meat with a utility knife. And this is a legal function. And what if I were still cutting raw. Now I bought a Bosch 68885 combine with a cube. Cuts both raw and boiled and good sized cubes. And in Zelmera the cubes are larger than in Vitek. Zelmer-1 cm (I read somewhere in the description of this nozzle), Vitek-9 mm, Bosch-8 mm.
Nafanyaf
Quote: subiata

So do not try it, it will last longer.
Thank you very much for the warning. Then I will not bother with Zelmer's cube cutter. Because the size of the cubes is very important to me. I just missed information about this in the topic.
subiata
Well, I wrote that the Zelmer cubes are 1 cm and I can't find where I read it. Somewhere in the online store in the description was. Now she already began to doubt. Maybe I misinformed. Who knows, develop my doubts.
Feechka_
Quote: Taia


Why is only Kenwood left? Good reviews about the Zelmer meat grinders, they are also available with a nozzle for tomatoes.

In Zelmera, I was disappointed with a different technique (iron and stationary mixer), so there is no desire to contact him anymore.
Dance
Today I finally bought myself a meat grinder - Zelmer 987.80. In this regard, the question arose: what diameter should I buy intestines for sausages-sausages, I did not understand how to correctly measure the diameter of this nozzle and select the appropriate size of the intestines. And then I want to buy lamb, but they are thin! Share your experience, plz.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Dance--

I used both lamb and pork without problems
and at the expense of the diameter did not bother - what they brought and stuffed

from thick sausages from thin sausages
Dance
Thank you! I was just worried that the thin lamb would not fit on the nozzle!
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

current you are not so hot, how tightly stuff
steamed if done or blanched before frying then ok
and if you fry right away, then they burst \ at me in any case \
Dance
I will train!
kava
And I have a new thing for the new year! MOULINEX ME 4111 meat grinder + juicer as a gift (got to the action). What can I say, I'm very happy! Already tried and shredder (potatoes, raw carrots pretty well rubbed) and minced meat. Literally 1 vein was found untwisted, but everything is fine! Quickly and efficiently. Plus it is very compact. Who has not yet decided - take a closer look at this model. Nice and quite budget item!
LLika
And we have a present for the New Year - Meat grinder ZELMER 987.83. Kortit has already tried to grate potatoes on potato pancakes, but now I'm finishing the general cleaning, so she's resting in the box. And in the near future, grate poppy seeds and nuts on a kutya, there is a grate and a shredder for this.
I scanned a plate from my booklet-instructions for models of a meat grinder and a complete set, can someone help in choosing
Choosing an electric meat grinder

The column "Cutting for vegetables" is positioned as dicing attachment.
gala10
LLika, thanks for the sign, very useful information. Then share your impressions of the new assistant, please.
LLika
, I will try to take a picture
gardenia
Choosing an electric meat grinder

Girls, here is a photo of the "cube" attachment for the Zelmer meat grinder.Rather, the knife itself in mm.
_IRINKA_
I measured the inner nozzle there 8 mm
Nafanyaf
Well, the cube is too big. Almost the same as in Vitek. Although, on the other hand, the smaller the cubes, the more likely it is to turn the product into porridge. Until you try it yourself, you will not understand. You need to think.
Zelmer's advantage is that it is very easy to put on, remove attachments and he is compact.
Thank you girls for the information.
gardenia
Choosing an electric meat grinder

The egg is cut with a cube attachment.
The egg is oval, so the cube is not standard, you can see it better in vegetables, but there is no photo: the salad has already been eaten.
LLika
Quote: Nafanyaf

Well, the cube is too big. ...
It's like someone. I talked with the girl, for her it's a little cube. I also think that at the output of 8 mm the vegetable will not work, some 1-1.2 mm will go for cutting, that is, for example, although carrots fit snugly against the walls of the grate when cutting, a smaller cube will come out.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
I don't remember it or not, but I think it won't hurt

Keti
1) Dreamer, where did you buy the Gamma meat grinder? Write that Ukraine, but I somehow did not find their site.
2) Tell me who has cheap electric grinders. I'm only interested in high-quality work of a meat grinder, nozzles, graters are not interested, therefore the price, in theory, should be low. It is necessary for a grandmother as a gift, since it is already difficult for her to twist an ordinary manual mechanical one, and she will use her own graters out of habit. The meat grinder is interested in which is sold in Ukraine.
vera_111
I would advise Dex 125, my friend will not be overjoyed for 2 years already, I recently gave this to my mother for 350 UAH in dexline bought, I have dex 155 q it is with attachments, so it is more expensive
Keti
And tell me what equipment is in DEH-125 and DEH-155. What is the difference?

vera_111, but the fact that the neck is not metal, but silumin, nothing? Not broken during this time? I had a silumin mixer, a crack started and water gushed through it. I had to buy a new one. Somehow I don't like silumin now.
Keti
By the way, here is a sign about the Zelmers. It may come in handy when choosing.
Found on 🔗
Choosing an electric meat grinder
Ipatiya
I needed an electric meat grinder. I read the topic from cover to cover, although I almost made a choice. On YouTube I came across a video.



Until now, I had no idea that Zelmer is famous for its meat grinders. Impressive! True, I chose another manufacturer, but not the one that was initially assumed. Thanks to everyone who shares their opinions and impressions!
Ipatiya
I bought Panasonic MK-G1800PWTQ. The design is modest, but it feels like a tank (T34). Especially after I saw live meat grinders of other manufacturers. In "Test Purchase" one of the models (simpler) was the winner.


gala10
Ipatiya, thanks for the helpful information. I am looking after the meat grinder now, carefully reading the topic. I don’t know where to stop.
Taia
And I bought a Panasonic MK-MG 1500. We have Zelmers in the price of Panasonic and even more expensive.
But Panasonic is a well-known company with a good reputation or little-known Zelmer ...

Choosing an electric meat grinder
Shelena
Quote: gala10

I'm looking after the meat grinder now, carefully reading the topic. I don’t know where to stop.
Galina, present the agony of choice! For half a year I read reviews about different models, I seem to have stopped at Zelmera. And a month ago I came across reviews of the Supra 1750. I bought it at Citylink for a share for 1400 rubles.
Very happy. Of course, 1 month is not a period for such a technique, but they have already used it 5-6 times. All good. Small, compact, smartly made.
Detailed reviews are available on the Citylink website. And, nicely, they are true.
Look, maybe such a model will suit you.
Ipatiya
Taia, congratulations!
Galya, I decided for myself that the meat grinder should be a meat grinder. I already have enough shredders. All kinds of attachments for sausages and kebbe fell away as soon as I saw how fast the meat was being cut. I have never done them and I doubt that I would have kept up with a meat grinder. By the way, even my grate is made of metal of impressive thickness and a self-sharpening knife. The seller, upon issuing the goods, asked why I needed a check. It's "Made in Japan"!

1st video without words.In the second, I was impressed that a person processes 90 kg per month. And the plastic is really high quality.




Taia
Quote: Shelena


Detailed reviews are available on the Citylink website. And, nicely, they are true.

Do you believe the reviews on the Citylink website? How did you determine their veracity?
I bought a product in another online store, where they put 200 rubles on the phone for a good review. If earlier I thought that something like that was exaggerated, now I’m convinced of it myself.
Ipatiya
Quote: Taia

But Panasonic is a well-known company with a good reputation or little-known Zelmer ...

Zelmer is the best choice in terms of price-quality + versatility. I was also unfamiliar with this technique before. But meat grinders have a lot of good reviews. However, Panasonic is the champion!

Quote: Taia

I bought a product in another online store, where they put 200 rubles on the phone for a good review.

I often saw similar offers on sites.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Taia-- - or the little-known Zelmer ..

Panasonic produces everything and everyone where there is a hole there and Panas is not, I'm not saying that he has a bad product for cartoons, I'm very happy
and initially the company was set up to produce and sell radios

Zelmer, of course, is not such a well-known company \ well, because Poland \ but it is a narrow-profile company that produces about 150 product models \ in 1953 they began production of vacuum cleaners \ for household use, but if they start producing TV sets, then I will probably keep them in mind at the very last queue
gala10
Taia, Ipatiya, shade, ShelenaThank you very much for helping me make my choice. When I dwell on something specific, I will definitely unsubscribe.
My meat grinder, bought in the mid-90s, of Belarusian production, is still plowing, but it creaks, growls and works very slowly. It's time to look for a replacement for her.
Taia
Quote: shade

Panasonic produces everything and everyone where there is a hole there and Panas is not, I'm not saying that he has a bad product for cartoons, I'm very happy


I do not idealize Panas at all, in general I am skeptical about everything. I was surprised by the cost of Zelmer meat grinders, I think it is very overpriced. When Panas and Zelmer stand next to each other on the shelf at the same price - ...
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Taia--
you answered yourself and yourself

Mercedes and Lada - no one will put on sale at the same price
because there is a chasm between them
and here is the name \ and this is marketing-advertising and so on \ for which you have to pay
and a device without a big name, but in quality it is quite equivalent or maybe better

Well, in any case, not a single meat roll gives such a quiet grinding
Ipatiya
Quote: shade

Mercedes and Lada - no one will put on sale at the same price
because there is a chasm between them
and here is the name \ and this is marketing-advertising and so on \ for which you have to pay
and a device without a big name, but in quality it is quite equivalent or maybe better

Mercedes has more than just a name and an advertisement. Fully iron filling, self-sharpening knife, power, processing speed, made in Japan. Nobody belittles Zelmer's merits, but it's not worth saying that Panasonic is behind only a name and advertising.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Well, yes --- only here an unknown company from some kind of Poland was able to make a meat grinder no worse than that of a transnational company with a billion-dollar turnover and wipe the nose of those who put on their product MADE IN JAPAN

so on top of the first positions on the market

Panasonic MK-G1800PWTQ---7 460 RUB- the average price from the market
Rated power - 330 W (maximum - 1800 W)
Performance 1.6 kg / min
There is a perforated disc for minced meat, 3 included
Grater attachment no
Shredder attachment no
Sausage attachment no

Zelmer 987.86 --- Average price:4 691 rub. market

Rated power - 650 W (maximum - 1900 W)
Performance 2.3 kg / min
Motor overload protection there is
Reverse system there is
There is a perforated disc for minced meat, 3 included, hole diameter 8 mm, 4 mm, 2.7 mm
Grater attachment no
Shredder attachment yes, 4 included
Sausage attachment there is
Other nozzles juicer
Well, something like this
Ipatiya
shadeWhy all these comparisons, if the reliability of the information cannot be verified? After all, you can write anything you want. For example, a blender might have a 700 watt motor Drills nervously smoke on the sidelines after such statements. But Bamiks honestly write about 150-200 watts. Zelmer won't recover after 90 kg a month? After all, it is 2.1 kg lighter, which indirectly speaks about the filling material. Moreover, you have selectively described the characteristics, or rather omitted some details. Panasonic also has a reverse and protection.
And then, everyone chooses according to their tasks. Is it worth blaming Panasonic for not making a meat grinder-harvester? I think that it is not worth opposing the Panasonic and Zelmer meat grinders. Each occupies its own niche, where each is good in its own way.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

well, look - an example far from a meat grinder but into a vein
let's take something as simple as a shower hose
branded \ reinforced plastic \ 500-600 rubles
Chinese no name or factory red bast shoe 120-200 rubles
I write the prices of the beginning of that year as I changed then
yes branded will last, let's say 5 years
and deshovy 2 years \ so the seller rubbed me \
but I bought 2 pieces for 170 Chinese and 1 for 150 which is ours
so now ours is standing and does not flow and does not - well, in short, it works
if it doesn't cover next year, I'll change it anyway - since it will rub and get dirty and don't even remember about it - and so for 6 years the same money as for one brand \ which will also rub and get dirty \

now about the meat grinders
For example, I don't know a family that turns 90 kilos of meat per month
Well, yes, we eat cutlets and meat and fish, well, not in such quantities that the apparatus would ruin
yes we use attachments BUT you, in order to chop / grate - you will also get some kind of device, and it probably also costs denyuzhka
of course everyone needs to choose
BUT
the theme was created to help the person choosing
and those who choose do not always have enough funds to go to the store and buy the most expensive model from the shelf
which will probably turn out to be a well-known company

PS
I am an AXO specialist and at work I come across the purchase of this or that product
so I dare to point out to you that not always expensive and branded product lasts longer than some simple shnyaga
TaTa *
And I didn’t understand the Panasonic meat grinder, I bought it, turned it on ... turned it off, changed it to brown
hefty and noisy compared to brown ...
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

TaTa * -

so what am I talking about, of course, tastes and financial capabilities are different for everyone
and not all brands are sold in a particular region
but little by little the circle of adequate \ price - quality \ equipment will be determined
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

sorry for the flood, of course, so addition to the topic

Panasonic has officially announced the closure of its plasma TV business. Until the end of March 2014, the company will stop producing panels and TVs, as well as their sale. The panels will be discontinued in December and all other manufacturing sites will be closed by March 2014. Panasonic is closing the business due to falling demand for TVs.

and LG is building two more factories \ Indonesia and China \ for the production of TVs

Shelena
Quote: Taia

Do you believe the reviews on the Citylink website?
Taia, sorry, but in my post I referred to REVIEWS, not reviews. These are two different things.
Quote: Taia

How did you determine their veracity?
Truthfulness reviews I found out after I started using the meat grinder. Itself would have written about her in much the same way.
Quote: Taia

I bought a product in another online store, where they put 200 rubles on the phone for a good review. If earlier I thought that something like that was exaggerated, now I’m convinced of it myself.
Citylink never concealed that it accrues bonuses for reviews and reviews.
But, having read about the equipment in the reviews, having seen everything about the device of interest in the video and photos, I personally drew my own conclusions and made my decision.
Quote: gala10

Taia, Ipatiya, shade, ShelenaThank you very much for helping me make my choice. When I dwell on something specific, I will definitely unsubscribe.
Galina, you are welcome! That is why I wrote, (to help you).
Happy choice!
Ipatiya
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

sorry for the flood, of course, so addition to the topic

Panasonic has officially announced the closure of its plasma TV business. Until the end of March 2014, the company will stop producing panels and TVs, as well as their sale. The panels will be discontinued in December and all other manufacturing sites will be closed by March 2014. Panasonic is closing the business due to falling demand for TVs.

and LG is building two more factories \ Indonesia and China \ for the production of TVs
This is, indeed, a flood and does not apply to the topic. You know shade, I originally had plans for another grinder. I did not begin to paint why I refused it and preferred Panasonic. Do you know why? Because there has already been a review from the real owner. I imagined that it would be unpleasant to read my criticism. Let their assistants please everyone, because there is no ideal technique. What are you trying to say now? That Panasonic is bad? And we are such losers that we chose this brand? Even pride in one's own choice shouldn't go so far.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
well, don't juggle
I already mentioned that I have a slow cooker Panasonic
and I think this is the best choice \ in the price category \
for me it's just a magic wand

but with the fact that-- I quote you- I imagined that it would be unpleasant to read my criticism.

I fundamentally disagree

TRUTH IS BORN IN A DISPUTE
Ipatiya
Quote: shade

well, don't juggle

Famously you distribute labels! Despite the wish, you are rather aggressively imposing your point of view. In such a dispute, truth is not born. This concludes the discussion.

Taia
As in the topic of bread makers, the controversy is which is better than Panasonic or others.
Panasonic Forever!
Ipatiya
Quote: amateur
And I think the best one that you have at home. WHICH you bought chose

Gold words!
Moulinex has an ingenious novelty - ME 510 HV6 Kulbit, a meat grinder and a mini-blender in one "bottle".

sazalexter
Quote: shade

Panasonic produces everything and everyone where there is a hole there and Panas is not, I'm not saying that he has a bad product
I beg your pardon, I could not resist

Panasonic, unlike many other "screwdriver" firms, has its own engineering base and invests money in its developments. All products under the Panasonic brand have exclusive technical solutions and design, while the company patents its solutions and practically never sells licenses for its patents


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