Motrya
I looked through everything, but there are no reviews about Philips. The price is not higher than that of Panasonic, the characteristics seem to be not bad, there are on sale, but there are no reviews. Who will say something about it? I am especially interested in the disadvantages (the advantages will tell you everything for themselves)
Ernimel
I understand that they are relatively new. I have a feeling that literally back in March, when I was choosing a typewriter, I did not come across any reviews or even descriptions. I would at least pay attention to the hd9040, but I don't remember it at all (although, of course, this is not a 100% reliable indicator). But if not for her "gothic" look, then I would even want her.

For the HD9020, there was a separate topic somewhere here: someone bought it and was looking for like-minded people. But the section for the file on the forum has not yet been done.
Motrya
Yes, 9040 is definitely new, and 9020 seems to have been on the market for a relatively long time, but nowhere are there any responses
Wait
sergkrk
I have it since May 25. Tomorrow I'll carry it to hand over. Stopped kneading the dough after five uses.
Motrya
Yes, something starts to worry me about this HP. Although excellent quality is declared. Let's wait ...
sergkrk
The quality is really wonderful, perfectly assembled, the plastic is very nice and beautiful (I bought it for the look).
Kneads in my opinion loudly, but I have nothing to compare with, today I will take 254 Panas - I'll try.
I didn’t like the measuring spoon, it’s inconvenient to wash VERY, I absolutely didn’t like the knife for incisions (again, maybe I just don’t know how)
I liked the baking dishes very much, they turned out to be excellent buns and rolls. Only VERY small)) Toy is simple. This is if you use separators. If you bake without them - right in the mold, it will be OK, but baking 4 buns in a few hours is somehow strange.

A! The main thing that I didn't like was that I stopped kneading 5-6 times

I liked that in the SC they took it away without talking and after a couple of days issued the verdict "Stove - for scrap, money - for the buyer"
They said that they themselves do not yet know about the quality, my oven was only their second Philips.

I thought a lot about changing for the same, but not available. So I turn, apparently, to Panasovod.
Ernimel
I liked the baking dishes very much, they turned out to be excellent buns and rolls. Only VERY small)) Toy is simple.
But can you tell us a little more about this very feature of theirs? I still live with my little deal in love and harmony (long years of service), but as a true lover of gizmos and gizmos in technology (and in this case, also the owner of a disgusting oven) I simply cannot look at this Philip's opportunity calmly. For people like me it was done - definitely.

About the size of buns and in pieces per batch, how many are they supposed to have there?

Could a photo of real creations survive by chance?

A! The main thing that I didn't like was that I stopped kneading 5-6 times

Well, panaslonik is not insured against a piece of marriage. Again, the model is new, the production line is not fully tested ... we will still follow the reviews and statistics. This model is really interesting to me.

And an adequate SC is also nice (although it's a shame that I had to deal with him at all)
Kosharik
I have a kettle and a toaster of this series (in black). Bought for the look. The kettle was repaired 2 times (the second one was due to the fault of the service). The service workshop in Moscow is disgusting. The toaster is alive, but the functionality is not finalized (not cleaned of crumbs, uneven frying). The coating always has a sloppy look (there are stains from everything), the logo - and that was erased. I had, at one time, very negative negotiations with the Philips representative. In general, to sum up, I will not buy any more equipment of this brand.
sergkrk
Quote: Ernimel


Could a photo of real creations survive by chance?

Preserved of course) The first experience of bun-making all the same!
But because of the size of the form, these are not buns in the direct sense of the word, but mini-breads.
Unfortunately, I don't remember the number of ingredients

What are the reviews about HP Philips?

Z. Y. I already took Panas 254. I'll come from a business trip - uhhh what I'll bake
Alexa13
What pretty girls. By the way, I considered this stove as an option for purchase (I chose from four models) But after reading the reviews, it cooled down. Although it really is positioned as almost perfect.
sergkrk
By the way about comparing the subject and Panasonic 254
Phillips subjectively works louder and vibrates harder. And the spoon is really less convenient in terms of washing. Although Panas does not shine.
But Phillips was in plain sight, and Panas modestly hides in a corner
And I am wildly annoyed by the "foam settling time" or rather the products before the start of the batch. And Phillips threw - and began to knead. And he threw in Panas - and went to meditate, to train calmness and patience.
Well, the window ... I'm nostalgic
Wito
I just handed it back with my bread maker, I was very disappointed, I put the program on the dough and it interfered several times and everything stood for 1.30 hours and then it hung completely uncooked, you turn on the basis for the program and the tennas start to heat up strongly. I took the Unhold 68211 multicooker, we will test it while there is time, if something can be returned within 2 weeks. Icq. Sincerely .
P.S. Disappointed in Philips, was the first device of this company in the house and the last.

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