Coffee machine

Oh!!! I do not know ... I have an automatic machine .... but I pour the ground with a measuring spoon !!!

Who cleans the / machine from scale with what? The instructions say that with specialized products that do not contain vinegar. The cost of Saeco, Jura, etc. is fantastic. In my opinion, this is a scam for money. In fact, it seems to me that this is a solution of the same lemon.
After rinsing with Saeco, I pour the used mixture into the kettle - it cleans very aggressively.
In Auchan, for example, I saw a product (imported) for 90 rubles, like, bio (the same lemon, I suppose). Maybe take a chance?

I would not risk cleaning the Kosharik with a lemon, but where do you buy the product for Saeco and how much does it cost.

If you have nowhere to put your money, buy a cleaner for your coffee machine. I have been cleaning with citric acid for the fifth year and everything is fine. There is the same lemon only under a different name. And we have enough suckers who are chasing names and not interested in what should be in those names.

alex52860, firstly, I am not a sucker and no need to offend, secondly I don’t chase names, thirdly I asked professionals on the ixbt forum and they answered me want to ruin the car with a lemon, fourthly I didn’t ask you.

Fuuu. instead of suggesting something sensible - rudeness went - ugly

Today I used a cappuccino maker to whip up the Domik v Derevny milk 0.5%, something not very good.
The foam is high, but falls off quickly.
Girls, tell me, pliz, how to whip milk for a cappuccino?
For ground coffee, I also have a measuring spoon, but I would like to know approximately the norm of grain coffee for one cup of Americano coffee (my husband prefers this) of medium strength. If you fall asleep more, then the excess day will then stand in the millstone compartment, losing its aroma. By experience, of course, I will find out over time, but maybe there is some average grain rate? Tell me, pliz! (Pleading emoticon)

Tanya, I buy in saeco brand stores, "the world of espresso", for saeco it cost 350 rubles for 1 flush, now in the one that is not far from my work - no (they are waiting), they offered a medium for another machine, in powder, for 400 re. I went to the next m-video, they have an electrolux, for 3 washes, it costs about 900 re.
alex52860, maybe he said rudely, but, I suppose, the truth is somewhere in the middle, I think, I'll be clever, I'll ask around and read in the store (I threw out my bubbles).
Margit, don't worry. My last cappuccino maker almost whipped water, and then I got upset (a week ago the warranty ended), and I didn't whip the yogurt and milk from a penny. In general, milk g ... Buy Valio (if you have one), I take, 3.5% fat - and everything will be fine.
It was somewhere in my mind that the coffee machine consumes 6-8g of grain coffee per cup.

Rita, I buy Parmalat milk 3.5% refrigerate min. 10 in the freezer to + 1-2 * and then the foam is just a miracle. But real milk straight from the farm for some reason does not want to be whipped like that
(And for what "thanks")

Rita, I buy Parmalat milk 3.5% refrigerate min. 10 in the freezer to + 1-2 * and then the foam is just a miracle.

Thank you, Irina, I will look for this milk, but in what stores can it be?

(And for what "thanks")

For the congratulations!!!

[alex52860]

I have been cleaning with citric acid for the fifth year and everything is fine.

alex52860
How do you clean, and how much lemon you need, please write!

[Margit]

Today I used a cappuccino maker to whip up the Domik v Derevny milk 0.5%, something not very good.
The foam is high, but falls off quickly.
Girls, tell me, pliz, how to whip milk for cappuccino correctly?
For ground coffee, I also have a measuring spoon, but I would like to know approximately the rate of grain coffee for one cup of Americano coffee (my husband prefers this) of medium strength. If you fall asleep more, then the excess day will then stand in the millstone compartment, losing its aroma. By experience, of course, I'll find out over time, but maybe there is some average grain rate? Tell me, pliz! (Pleading emoticon)

Margit, of course, our milk is different, but still I'll tell you a little about it.

At the moment I take milk of 3.2 percent, Zlagoda company (it is very tasty with baked milk to make cappuccino). Milk of 2.6% of the same company is not whipped like this. I took the Merry Shepherd boy for a long time, but it stopped beating altogether, and the homemade one never even started.
Be sure to keep the milk cold from the refrigerator.

I used to whip milk with the spout of a cappuccinator. That, just in a circular motion drove the cup around the spout, and that's it. Beats perfectly this way.

The rate of coffee for one standard cup is 7 grams. Well, at least that's the case with me.

Regarding cleaning the machine: I used to take a branded one, and now I bought Silit (Cillit seems to be spelled like that) for coffee machines. An excellent tool, it seemed to me.

Rita, parmalat is sold in all major supermarkets, but the price is certainly not weak - we have 47 liters per liter

Just about what company (Italy, by the way) I saw (and bought for a teapot) in Auchan. I don't think it is that different.
a nut, and I suddenly whipped up cheap milk (also sold in a penny), in plastic bottles, produced in some village in some state farm. True, the next day it turned sour
Valio generally cost 54 re in Auchan, I only take it for cappuccino.

Thank you girls! I'll try everything, and Valio, on the advice of Kosharik, too.
Thank you!

Agree!!! Valio is the best whisker !!!!!!
Py. Sy. And I don’t need to fill in anything in the machine, and so it washes itself !!!!

For ground coffee, I also have a measuring spoon, but I would like to know approximately the rate of grain coffee for one cup of Americano coffee (my husband prefers this) of medium strength. If you fall asleep more, then the excess day will then stand in the millstone compartment, losing its aroma. By experience, of course, I'll find out over time, but maybe there is some average grain rate? Tell me, pliz! (Pleading emoticon)

I don’t know how it is in your car, but in my Saek, if there is not enough grain, at least a little, she grinds it and throws it into the trash after thinking (there were a couple of times when there was a little left in the container and I was hoping that there was enough for a cup). The container closes quite tightly, I don't think that the coffee aroma will fade away much overnight. It is not for nothing that these containers are designed for 250 g of coffee. Household machines, however, are not designed for continuous cooking.
We have Valio recently appeared only in Auchan. And since it is whipped, none of the other is whipped. There is simply a higher protein content than in domestic and this plays a huge role.

k.alena, but for me, as a rule, it cooks from what remains (goes to the trash, of course)
But I have a cooler glitch. The coffee that has already been ground is sometimes dumped. And he writes that, like, add grain (with a full tank). I took the whole brain out to Proxima (this is the official representative of the Saeki in Russia). This was the last straw when replacing the car. At the stand (in the service) it works like a clock. Most likely, a nuance by e / p. They themselves admitted that there are shortcomings in terms of adaptation to our network. Or, as an option (it was not I who came up with it, but the master put forward a version) that the machine is not completely sharpened for the strongest coffee (when the maximum intake of beans occurs), the machine cannot tamp the tablet and dumps it. My new machine also sometimes resets the grinding (the grain is a pity - especially expensive).

Girls, excellent foam is obtained from Milok 3.2% milk.
I bought it in Auchan.

Good day.
I have been the proud owner of a Jura Impressa z5 coffee machine for 2 years. 🔗 For some reason it was a dream. Have a good coffee machine. Before buying, I spent a week on forums in the internet.Including found a forum 🔗... This is the barista forum. But apart from their professional sections, there is a great section for coffee lovers. About the choice of cars, about repairs and about varieties of coffee. I learned a lot from there, made a choice. I'm happy.
I buy coffee Ionia Gran Crema (Italy) or La Semeuse Soleil Levant (Switzerland). Very soft varieties, not bitter.
But milk) - ANY) Apparently, the quality of the froth depends not so much on milk and its fat content, but on the design of the cappuccinator) I don't know why - but I get froth from any milk of any fat content. By the way, not only in the car. As already mentioned here, you can perfectly whip milk in a glass container-glass with a piston - for brewing coffee or tea. This is the cheapest cappuccino maker)
I wish everyone delicious Coffee and high Foam)

[Martin]

Martinif it's easy, post photos of your coffee. And if the video, then it would be great!
Your machine is gorgeous !!!

I'll try tomorrow)

Martina, is there an automatic cappuccino maker in the car? Is the foam the same as in the picture? How long have you been using the car? (this is me to the fact that next time I will take Jura, I have suffered with Saeco, I would love to hear the opinion of the owners of Jura)

Kosharik, what problems did you have with Saeco? I took Saeco because of the good reviews and because of the small size and so far I am very satisfied, it is being used to its fullest.

Here is the foam. I intentionally mixed it actively to show you that it does not fall off even with physical impact. While mounting the rollers - 10 minutes have passed, the glass is next to me - the foam is the same) Milk today - Savushkin's product 3.1%. Yesterday was Vologda lace 3.2%. The day before yesterday House in the village 2.5, posture the day before yesterday - Prostokvashino 1.5%. The fat content is always different. I just take what is in the house. I always have 6% DVD - for bread, and it perfectly froths. It doesn't matter what temperature it is. Sometimes I take it from the refrigerator. But today's - at room temperature. Hot (almost brought to a boil, but not boiling) milk should only be whipped manually in a glass with a plunger for brewing tea and coffee. Wow, and the foam turns out) already jumps out of the glass)
The machine comes with 2 cappuccinators. One you see, the second is long - for small cups. I'm comfortable with a short one, because I bought high glasses)
The car is more than 2 years old. Smart)
I apologize for the blurriness ... it's inconvenient to shoot with one hand ...
But I found the characteristics for you, if you need
Additional functions and features of the Jura Z5 coffee maker

* Auth. one-touch cappuccino
* Display dialogue system in 5 languages
* Brewing temperature programming
* Built-in coffee grinder, 6 degrees of grinding
* Possibility to use ground coffee
* Adjustable auto on / off time
* Built-in rinsing program
* Built-in hydraulic cleaning program
* Built-in descaling program
* Built-in auto cappuccino cleaning program
* Programming portions of hot water
* Programming the strength of coffee individually per cup
* Recognition of the scale level
* Water hardness adjustment
* Automatic recognition of the need to replace the filter
* Intelligent pre-flavoring system

Additional Information:

* Bezel made of 3mm aluminum
* Rotary inclusion
* Dialogue display supplemented by graphic
* Thermal milk container
* E.S.M. © (Energy Save Mode ©) Energy saving mode
* Control over the presence of coffee beans in the hopper
* The IMPRESSA Z5 comes with a thermal milk container. It holds about 1 liter of milk and keeps it chilled for 8 hours. The shape of the container complements the design of the IMPRESSA Z5
* Height adjustment range of coffee dispensing spout: 65 mm - 102 mm
* Adjustable infuser 5-16g
* Capacity of coffee waste container 20 portions
* Capacity of the container for coffee beans 280 g
* Replacement nozzle for cappuccino (long) 90 mm
* Replacement cappuccino nozzle (short) 42 mm
* Heating system: 2 thermoblocks

[Martin]

Martin
What a machine, I'm in awe!
Such a machine is worth buying, only its price upsets. But I think, if you really want to, then over time you can get it, she is more than worthy of it!
Thank you very much for the video, how many different videos I watched while choosing a coffee machine, I see this for the first time.

Martina, Saeco Primea Touch Plus was not even close in terms of foam production (machines, in principle, of the same class). And this is in the car of the 3rd release, like they tweaked the cappuccinatore (the first ones did not make foam at all). In principle, I am satisfied with the quality of the espresso.
I look, Z5, I look, they also released the second version, it costs under 100 thousand.
Have you heard any reviews about Jura ENA cars?

Oh ... I haven't studied the coffee machine market for a long time. so I wrote to you from the forum "prokofe" - what experts say.

ЕNА 9 relatively recently began to be sold in the Russian Federation. the quality is stable from Jura. the taste of the drink in it is more than decent (we are talking about the characteristics and capabilities of the machine itself - realizing that good grain and milk are important by default!). today one of the most recommended by me personally coffee machines in the segment of home office.

A HUGE drawback in ENA is a maaaaalusin water tank, if a family of 3 people, the last 100% goes to filling the tank with water (unless of course all three do not drink espresso, then there is a chance =), and its (tank's) location is also not a fountain, the machine is "deep" and the tank is at the very end and it is inconvenient to put it in place, and filling with a jug, for example, is sooner or later filled with millstones in a coffee grinder (only yesterday I changed them like that). (This is written by a person who works in a service I don’t remember a coffee machine. And he repairs any machines to the forum participants "prokofe". That is, a specialist. Always gives good advice)

I also have a small water tank 1,2 in my car, but I do not consider this a disadvantage, maybe because I have it conveniently located.

In principle, the size of the tank is not very important (unless you buy a car for the office). You need fresh water, for example, I pour fresh water every time. For example, I am more satisfied with the small size of the drip tray. Here it is just constantly overflowing, but is in an inconvenient place.
Tell me, do they have the same cappuccino makers in all models?
By the way, one of the reasons for buying Saeco was the integrated milk container. So that's it. He is very ill-conceived, in Jura this system is much better implemented.

The machine is very decent! !!!! But ..... the price, respectively, and I, Yura, personally, was just not a convenient location of the tank and confused ..... I'll shoot a video for my simple Sayechki and put it out later .... I have some foam, at least cut it with a knife !!! And I like that I pour milk as much as I want, and beat it as much !!!

[zvezda]

The machine is very decent! !!!! But ..... the price, respectively, and I, Yura, personally, was just not a convenient location of the tank and confused ..... I'll shoot a video for my simple Sayechki and post it later .... I have some foam, at least cut it with a knife !!! And I like that I pour milk as much as I want, and beat it as much !!!

zvezda
The word is not a sparrow ... wait-s-s-s

Yes ... the price, of course, is mind-boggling. But it was a dream) and it was better to fulfill it under well-formed circumstances than not to fulfill it) Remember - as in "Cinderella" - "after all it is very harmful not to go to the ball if you deserve it") Although it is intellectually clear that the price is enormous and, to be honest, this is not a daily necessity, and you can make coffee quite calmly not for 100 rubles, but for 30, and even better in a Turk for 300 rubles)
But nice ooooooooo ...
I didn't really understand, zvezda, which means - "I will pour milk as much as I want, beat it as much" ... and I beat it as much as I want)
And what does "the inconvenient location of the tank near Yura" mean? the tank on the side - does not interfere with anything, when pouring into it - without even pulling it out of the car, there is no threat to any technologically important parts of the machine. In my opinion, it is just very convenient.

There water is poured from above !!!! And hinged lockers interfere with me !!!!! : pardon: I meant that as much as I pour into a mug, I will beat it as much !!!! I have Milk Island, but I don't use it ..... it's like an automatic cappuccino maker ....

In-in, I also had a dream, for many, many years. And I don’t regret that I did it. Dreams should come true!

Yes ... the price, of course, is mind-boggling. But it was a dream) and it was better to fulfill it under well-formed circumstances than not to fulfill it) Remember - as in "Cinderella" - "after all it is very harmful not to go to the ball if you deserve it") Although it is intellectually clear that the price is enormous and, to be honest, this is not a basic necessity, and you can make coffee quite calmly not for 100 rubles, but for 30, and even better in a Turk for 300 rubles)

If there is a great desire, then it is better to implement it so as not to feel slighted and deprived. "A dream is not given to a person without the power to make it a reality." You can also drive a Zaporozhets, if only there were four wheels.
Today I drew attention to your typewriter in the store, it costs 86 thousand.
But of course she is beautiful !!!

Doesn't get cheaper ...

Girls, I still cannot orientate myself on the degree of grind, strength of coffee beans and the amount of liquid. It turns out a lot, then a little. Already three times I twisted the zherpova by one division each time. I take a used ground coffee tablet as a standard. And yet, when coffee is brewed on beans, I press the button on two cups, and the machine grinds only once and that's it, the second time you need to press the button again. The instructions say that it automatically grinds immediately a second time, but this does not happen, what is it, a glitch? How to deal with this?

I am not an expert, but it seems that for a lightly roasted coffee you need a fine grind, for a heavily roasted one - a coarse one. So, in any case, it is written in my manual for the car. But there are a lot of divisions on the regulator ... probably you still need to experimentally. And I don't know how your car works. mine brews a double cup at a time ... in the process, you can use the key to assign both the strength and the amount of water ...

"The grind should be selected so that with an optimal double dose, 50-60 ml is poured in 25-28 seconds. From a single dose, respectively 25-30 ml. With a larger volume, there will never be oily and thickening."
"Once you have selected the dose, adjust the grind to get the correct amount in 25 seconds."
"the finer the grind, the larger the tab and the stronger the coffee"
- this is with Prokofe

Rita, I also have this: D I have 2 spouts - I need 2 cups - I press the button with two cups and 25-30 ml of coffee will be poured into each one, if I put 1 cup and press the button with 2 cups, then about 60 ml is poured into one, and then again must be pressed if you pour a double portion into one cup. In my opinion, this is how it should be, or I don't understand something: mda: I just checked how Martina wrote - in time and quantity everything coincided

Thank you girls!
So everything is correct, the machine is smart, I'm not very good ... I adjusted the grinding more or less, the coffee now comes not in a strong stream and is liquid, but thicker and the trickle is thinner. I hope my friendship with her will turn out, although I hardly drink coffee, I try for the faithful.
And if any of the friends runs in, they are very pleased with a cup of divine drink! I like making coffee more, shamanism, that is!

And with milk?) Oh and delicious)

Tasty, no words! In addition, I learned how to whip the foam, and from different milk. I bought different milk, even the president for 160 per liter, there is just 3% protein, but everything turns out to be whipped, the main thing is to hold it in the freezer for about 5 minutes. And how could I forget that, because I often made cocktails, especially when I lost weight on Herbalife. You can't make a good cocktail without ice. I like the coffee machine as a mechanism, as another achievement of human thought. And yet .... lit up by a typewriter like yours, a year later - another, I hope ...!

ABOUT! Foam is great) I just bought a car and discovered that milk foam itself is sweet, without sugar. Now I often don't put sand in coffee ...although he was always bitter to me. Or here's another thing) Now in stores many types of glass mills are sold - with different herbs, seasonings, sea salt, different types of peppers. And I found a mill with hard chocolate chips and a little cinnamon. So - on milk foam, without sweetening coffee ... yes, grind a little from this mill ...) you can't pull it by the ears)

This level is the first. It used to be, they gave it to us. But we practically did not use it. It was a carob coffee machine ... they bought ground coffee in vacuum packs for her, we didn’t like how she brewed, so they brewed very little. But there was panarello in it. Therefore, I experimented a lot with milk and foam.

[Omela]

I understood that, you can feel what a person with experience is saying.
It's good that I didn't take the carob, Omela dissuaded, thanks to her.
Jura Impressa Z7 Al cars are on sale, beautiful! In our city, however, there is still no service for these cars.

In general, they say that coffee from carob machines tastes best. In any case, coffee houses and coffee shops make coffee in carob machines. But in my opinion it's soooo hard ... it takes a long time to practice. After all, everything matters there - both the grinding and how you tamp the coffee in the cone ... and the water temperature, and the water pressure ... and the time the water passes through the coffee ... probably very tasty. Therefore, the owners of carob machines and professionals are condescending towards us, Saekovtsy, Dzhurovtsy ... like - "okay, okay, consider that you are drinking real tasty coffee, but we know something ...")

That is why I also decided to take the machine so that I could press the button and get coffee, and I think I’m happy with decent coffee, which I can do with carob dances with tambourines. My children rarely drank coffee before, because it was too lazy to brew in a Turk, and now they did not have time to tear their eyes at the button of the coffee machine, they press, I do not have time to buy coffee.

I don’t understand what is so difficult about carob machines? Grinding - espresso, tamped completely. A measuring spoon for 7 g of coffee is applied, you do not need more for 1 cup, for 2 cups - 14 g. No trick, and no hassle too, the coffee tastes good, but it is better from an automatic machine.