matroskin_kot
nut, what kind of car? It's already burning for me
nut
Matroskin_kot I have Delonghi ECAM 23.450S - I bought it before the New Year, I really like her Coffee, I make a cappuccino for myself, my husband just coffee, and in the morning - a latte: wow: It's very convenient that she rinses herself after cooking, she also whips milk herself also washes all the milk tubes, but I have not yet comprehended all the automation - I'm afraid to climb there, and the machine is not sickly. Aunt Basie the same machine - looking at its reviews and bought myself and do not regret
This one, very compact, stands on the edge of the kitchen surface and does not bother anyone
Coffee machine
matroskin_kot
That compact is great. And then I already do not have enough footage, obviously. not even how many meters, how many sockets ... I'm going to look ...
zvezda
matroskin_kot great !! choose a model !! soon the pets themselves will be involved ...: yes: my husband is already a ready-made device golik !!!
Aunt Besya
matroskin_kot, I am also happy with my machine. I bought it on the recommendation of the all-forum provocateur - Stars, and the Star will not advise bad
Brews expresso, latte, cappuccino, just hot milk and boiling water for herbs can also be made. Easy to clean. Accepts both ground and grain coffee. Lives on the windowsill and actually does not take up space
matroskin_kot
Hee-hee, what Star- a provocateur - in a good sense of the word, I already understood .. She is contagious about everything, that you just need to come up with a reason to buy, well, now deal with the model ...
Margit
Recently, I was also puzzled by the problem of choosing a coffee machine, I choose between Delonghi ECAM 23.450S and Delonghi ECAM 22.110. Very good reviews. Saeco RI9357 01 NINA PLUS BAR espresso machine is also highly praised. Oh, and the burden of a deviceaholic is heavy!
It is difficult to choose what you need and not be mistaken in such a variety of goods
zvezda
Oh, how are you ..... well, I ....: spiteful: I'll throw you something else! !! You will know !!!!!
Margit these are different machines .... the second model does not have a built-in cappuccinator !!!
matroskin_kot
And Louis and I ordered smokehouses, you can even smoke in the apartment ... I definitely need a cappuccinator ... I'll go read.
Margit
Quote: zvezda

Oh, how are you ..... well, I ....: spiteful: I'll throw you something else! !! You will know !!!!!
Margit these are different machines .... the second model does not have a built-in cappuccinator !!!
I read a review that in the second one, although it is a manual cappuccinator, the foam turns out better than in the first one. The buyer compared the two at the same time, bought the first one, and the second for the mother. They write that if they bought it again, they would have taken a second one for themselves. The coffee is the same, but the crema is much better in the second.
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zvezda
I also have a manual cappuccino maker now and I like it better !! I wrote this for information ...
matroskin_kotI watched it yesterday .... too big !!! And the price ....
Aunt Besya
Quote: matroskin_kot

And Louis and I ordered smokehouses, you can even smoke in the apartment ... I definitely need a cappuccinator ... I'll go read.
Come on, come on ... or else three days have passed since the purchase of the steam cleaner ...
Tanyusha
I don't know how milk is whipped with an automatic cappuccinator, but with a manual cappuccino maker, I get a dense froth in just a minute. More and more I like my machine, but I feel I’ll go broke on coffee, 0.5 kg of coffee per week.
Margit
Tanya, and what is your model of coffee machine?
matroskin_kot
🔗 : girl_curtsey: Here it is a smokehouse. Louis- tried. She had been looking at it since last year, but she didn’t know how to transport it. And here I am with explanations on the transport company, well, duck and bought it yesterday. We are waiting, sir. Thank you Louis. And then I was going to build, but here everything is much better. Well, you girls read it, and then throw me into the smokehouse.
Meri klarissa
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Meri klarissa What button do you press to get the coffee, divided into fractions ??? This is an automatic mode I have the same machine, but to get such a drink, I first pour the frothed milk, and then I press the cappuccino: umnik2: But there must be automatic mode - I pressed the necessary button and the machine itself should pour exactly the whipped milk, then coffee and again milk - or am I wrong? I am very happy with the car - CLASS

Button "cappuccino", but I use milk 1.5% "House in the village", I even get 4 layers: milk (white layer color), coffee with milk (coffee color layer), coffee itself and foam.
matroskin_kot
And what do the different letters mean, is there an explanation somewhere? Otherwise I'm starting to get confused .... Delonghi ECAM 22.110, then 23420, 24500, and so on.
Margit
Quote: matroskin_kot

And what do the different letters mean, is there an explanation somewhere? Otherwise I'm starting to get confused .... Delonghi ECAM 22.110, then 23420, 24500, and so on.
These model numbers always indicate the series and model number. Oh how many of them ...!
galinanka
Quote: tanya1962

I don't know how milk is frothed with an automatic cappuccinator, but with a manual cappuccino maker, I get a dense froth in just a minute. More and more I like my machine, but I feel I’ll go broke on coffee, 0.5 kg of coffee per week.

What does tame mean? Should you beat yourself or what? I choose a coffee machine to make cappuccino without my participation. And another question: in automatic cooking, the foam is not as good as in the manual version?
nut
Aunt Besya and how do you cook latte - where to press it in order, if possible
Aunt Besya
Well, I don't actually drink latte and, accordingly, I don't
When I bought it, I read the instructions and realized that the button is still the same "Cappuccino", but the lever on the milk container must be set to the middle position. For simply hot milk - to the starting position
nut
Thank you, I see :) And one more question - is it possible to interrupt the whipped milk program? So I like this drink - first, frothed milk (button), then cappuccino (button) So on prog. "whipped milk" of this milk is poured a lot (until the program ends), but I would like less
zvezda
You can interrupt ....
nut
An asterisk, how? Where do you need to reap?
Tanyusha
Margit my car can be seen on page 30 answer 292, this is Saeko Cynthia the smallest in size.
zvezda
Quote: nut

An asterisk, how? Where do you need to reap?
On the same button !!!
nut
Zvezda thank you for the science
galinanka
it's a pity that no one can help me ...
nut
Galinanka although I am a small specialist, but my car is fully automatic and the foam makes excellent, the last time I poured tsp on the foam. sugar and froth stood
14min. , the sugar remained on the foam, then of course I stirred everything myself. And manual whipping implies such a tall glass with specials. piston - you move this piston up and down and the milk is saturated with oxygen - whipped milk is obtained. There is also an Aerochino device - the price is 3.500 rubles. Girls praise this device (y) I wanted to buy it myself, but now I won't trade my typewriter for anything: yahoo: And the choice to make you If I helped you with something, I will be glad
Tanyusha
Galinanka if you want without your participation, then you need a panarella attachment with an automatic cappuccinator at my machine, if you look at the photo of my machine on page 30 answer 292, then on the left side there will be a tube that is a panarela that whips milk with steam.
galinanka
Girls, thank you very much, I'm starting to understand what's what.
anina
DeUshki, I chose a gift for womens day - a coffee machine
Saeco Syntia Focus Black. Why am I confused with an automatic cappuccino maker? Or do you have to do it manually to get a cappuccino?
I want an automatic one. Enlighten, p-that.
zvezda
Without!!!! Panarello there too !!!
Antonovka
Well, then I'm up to the heap with a question to those who understand and possess:
What is the functional difference between the Saeco Xsmall White and Saeco Xsmall Plus?
And how do they differ (not counting the screen) from Saeco Syntia Focus Black?

In appearance, the pepper is clear to me, I like Saeco Syntia Focus Black ... In fact, the comparison between Saeco Xsmall White and Saeco Syntia Focus Black and what is their main difference is, that is, without which coffee is not coffee. .. (gig, I like the prices of 13 thousand more than 22)

Please save me - I don't understand them
anina
Saeco Syntia Cappuccino is a cappuccino machine.
How does Panarello affect the final coffee result?
k.alena
Quote: Antonovka

comparison of Saeco Xsmall White and Saeco Syntia Focus Black and what is their main difference - that is, without which coffee is not coffee ...
At a glance, compared to the descriptions, Syntia has more power, a larger water tank, there is a "Coffee strength control" (I personally really like this function, thanks to it the coffee has excellent froth), and also has a self-cleaning system (my Talea has it too is, so it is difficult to judge how it would be without it) and the possibility of water filtration (a filter is screwed into the water tank, it makes no difference to me, since there is a common filter with a tap in the kitchen). As far as I understand, these are cars of different classes: Xsmall is economy, and Syntia is more advanced. It is difficult to advise anything, when I was choosing, I asked the consultants of more than one online store (not necessarily those where you are going to buy, but those who specialize in coffee machines). Because there are nuances in the differences between models (as in Saeco Xsmall White and Saeco Xsmall Plus) that do not fall into the descriptions, but they are
Quote: Anina

How does Panarello affect the final coffee result?
Panarello is a pipe for dispensing steam and hot water, used for frothing milk for cappuccino (in those machines where there is no automatic cappuccinatore) and just to draw hot water. Has nothing to do with making coffee itself
Antonovka
Spasbo, k.alena! I understand that I will probably have to choose for a long time - so many nuances
Uncle Sam
Quote: k.alena

At a glance, compared to the descriptions, Syntia has more power, a larger water tank, there is a "Coffee strength control" (I personally really like this function, thanks to it the coffee has excellent froth), and also has a self-cleaning system (my Talea has it too is, so it is difficult to judge how it would be without it) and the possibility of water filtration (a filter is screwed into the water tank, it makes no difference to me, since there is a common filter with a tap in the kitchen). As far as I understand, these are cars of different classes: Xsmall is economy, and Syntia is more advanced. It is difficult to advise anything, when I was choosing, I asked the consultants of more than one online store (not necessarily those where you are going to buy, but those who specialize in coffee machines). Because there are nuances in the differences between models (as in Saeco Xsmall White and Saeco Xsmall Plus) that do not fall into the descriptions, but they are

A few words from the owner of Saeco Xsmall (sorry, black).
- The size of the water tank starts to strain when 2-3 tea-sized cups are made in a row. For an egoist who consumes 1-2 COFFEE cups a day, it is quite enough.
- Directly (from the control panel, with a separate button), the coffee strength in the Saeco Xsmall is not adjustable. It can be indirectly adjusted through the volume of the cup (the more water, the lower the strength of the drink) and by adjusting the fineness of the grinding (also not through a button, but with a special key). I am quite happy with the factory settings. And most of the acquaintances, owners of coffee machines, having indulged in this function on the first day, leave it further at a constant value.
- By the way, the foam, even without setting the strength, is cool. And it depends more on the type of coffee. IMHO
- Self-cleaning is present. Washes itself: when turned on, before turning off and after an hour of inactivity. (main eater of water from a humble tank) :-)
- The filter (or rather the filter) in the water tank is the same.

My verdict: this model is suitable for people who just want to get a good espresso, with delicious froth. But not more.
k.alena
- Directly (from the control panel, with a separate button), the coffee strength in the Saeco Xsmall is not adjustable. It can be indirectly adjusted through the volume of the cup (the more water, the lower the strength of the drink)
All coffee machines seem to have such settings.
and adjusting the fineness of grinding (also not through a button, but with a special key).
And I have such an adjustment, but it's somehow scary to go into the grind
And most of the acquaintances, owners of coffee machines, having indulged in this function on the first day, leave it further at a constant value.
So the whole trick is to customize "for yourself", and not every day in different ways. Although, if there are several consumers and all have different tastes?
And it depends more on the type of coffee. IMHO
absolutely sure, but still, in a carob, I never did it
I will also add to the question of choice, I was choosing between Saeco Giro and Talea (with different additional words in the names), I took into account the following fact: the thing is not cheap, it is bought for a long time (I really hope so), so it is better to take the maximum of your financial capabilities, than then almost regret it all the time. And maybe it seemed to me, but these cars, like cars, the higher the class, the more pleasant it is in the little things (assembly, quality of plastic, etc.)
Tanyusha
Antonovka, I also chose for a long time, but still I stopped at Saeko Cynthia, well, firstly, outwardly, I like 70% of the metal more, and in Xsmall in plastic and the quality of plastic I did not really like it, secondly, Cynthia has a display with symbols, which is very convenient, for 2 weeks of operation almost 1 kg of coffee was consumed, now everyone drinks coffee every day
Margit
And here I am choosing a coffee machine for my husband, he wants a higher price right away, but it seems to me for a start it is better to try a carob. We have never had coffee makers, they brewed in a Turk and in a geyser, still a Soviet-era coffee maker. Looked at Saeko Cynthia, beauty, no words!
Margit
Tanya, if it's not difficult, please take a picture when you brew a cup of coffee, I want to see what kind of foam Saeko Cynthia gives out.
Omela
Quote: Margit

he wants a higher price right away, but it seems to me for a start it is better to try carob.
Margit , I'm not a big coffee connoisseur, but I can compare. First there was a carob DeLonghi (they sent him to the country), now Saeko Odea Giro plus. To taste - heaven and earth! The only thing, of course, I do not like the cappuccinatore (weak) in her.
Margit
Thank you, Omela! So you shouldn't mess with the carob, let's think now ...
Omela
That's right !!! Better to wait a bit !!!
Antonovka
Wow, thank you all very much! Understood - I'm saving up for the one that is more expensive, for Tanyushkina. True, you will probably have to postpone this purchase for "after the vacation" Well, or suddenly a denyushka suddenly happens
Tanyusha
Margit if you want more expensive take Saeko Talea good car.
zvezda
I have this .... I'm happy !!!!!
Margit
Tanyusha
There are a lot of Saeco Talea, I don't know which modification to give preference to. There are very few reviews.
zvezda
What model do you have and how long have you been using it? Read about your Odyssey with coffee machines.
clavicle
And I can advise Yura. The model is called Ena 3. We like it very much.

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