Tanyusha
Tatiana, how lucky with the equipment, but having 2 cars from different manufacturers, I will say that I am for Delonge. My first Saeko was covered after 2 years, but I didn't repair it and bought a Delongy ECAM 23.450.
Masinen
TatianaSa, and what is the limit for money?
TatianaSa
35000. Further the toad strangles.
Masinen
Well 35,000 is an excellent amount.
See Delongy, they have proven themselves in the market. The quality is excellent, the service is easy.
The coffee is delicious.
I can give advice, well, this is my personal opinion. Tk coffee machines with an auto cappuccinatore passed through my hands and now I have a manual one.
So, manual is 100 times more reliable !! I advise you not to look at the car, because they sometimes fail.
TatianaSa
Thank you very much!
Margit
TatianaSa
I would advise using this money to buy a good coffee grinder and an inexpensive carob coffee maker, the coffee will be much tastier.
TatianaSa
I am lazy. This will need to grind coffee, then fill the coffee maker, and then everything is ready. Or I'm wrong?
Masinen
The coffee machine does everything by itself.
And the carob must be filled with ground coffee.
TatianaSa
Is it tastier than coffee in a carob?
Masinen
Much depends on the coffee itself and, of course, on the coffee machine.
I had a carob Krups, the coffee in it turned out gorgeous, but it lasted 1 year and 10 months.
And they returned the money for it under the guarantee and I bought an automatic Delongy coffee machine.
At my husband's parents' house, I have an automatic Krups coffee machine. H
But compared to Delongy, she is very moody. A little clogged. I shake over her and do not allow anyone to touch without me. Well, she is very capricious.
And Delongy, she doesn't care, the main thing is to descale. I don't even worry when I leave that I will come and she will not work.
Tanyusha
More delicious from a carob, but only a good carob and a good coffee grinder. And I specially took it with an auto cappuccinator so that my daughter did not bother, she is a cappuccino lover, and I managed to whip it manually every other time. I myself am a lover of good espresso.
Margit
Girls, my daughter has a simple espresso machine - Vitek, good milk - Mazzer Mini. Both she and her occasional guests believe that even in such a simple coffee machine, coffee is much tastier than coffee in the city's coffee shops. Of course, she plans to upgrade over time to a good coffee maker, but for now she is happy with this simple one. Here here I exhibited a video from Yotube, a simple coffee machine, Roventa. A man prepares delicious coffee on it and chicly whips milk. He is a barista, once it was his first machine, now he has one of the coolest - La Marzocco. He also believes that the main ingredients of delicious coffee are, first of all, a coffee grinder and freshly roasted beans.
Cleaning any car takes a little time, pour water, wipe, clean, sweep, whether it be a carob or an automatic machine.
You can choose a coffee grinder on Avito, the choice is large:

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TatianaSa
Thank you!
TatianaSa
Reviewed all the Delongue coffee machines. I liked the latest model, which is about 100t. R. I really want her, but I don't know if I really need her?
And even the toad stopped strangling, as a specific Wishlist formed
I wonder if this coffee machine differs so much from the cheaper models? And if I drink no more than one cup of coffee a day, maybe it is too expensive for me? It's the toad that woke up again
sazalexter
TatianaSaWhy such a waste, because of one cup of coffee a day can a capsule machine look after? Nespresso https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=78060.0 or Tassimo https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=168318.0
TatianaSa
No, I definitely don't want a capsule. I want to fry the grains myself and fall asleep, you know, I like the process!
Kirks
I like the capsule coffee machine less. To sit down on capsules that are not cheap and it is not clear what kind of chemistry is mixed in them. I had a story with a vacuum cleaner with disposable paper bags. The model of the vacuum cleaner was discontinued and the bags disappeared from sale. Better not to depend on these capsules.
win-tat
Quote: TatianaSa
I liked the latest model, which is about 100t. R
Usually such fancy cars are sooo capricious, then you need to rinse it (and the process can take at least 20 minutes), then something else is missing ... the less automation, the better. Moreover, because of 1 cup of coffee. I had Delongy, it was enough for 1 year, something happened to the brewing mechanism, the table stopped forming. waste coffee and dump into the hopper, resulting in brew. the mechanism was all in this mess. It was lucky that there was a month left until the end of the guarantee, I handed it over for repairs, they kept it for 40 days, they didn't wait for the spare part. The service gave an act to write off the car and the store returned the money under this act.
TatianaSa
Then what is better to take?
Elena Tim
I once had a very good espresso machine. But when, after a few years, I was tired of sleepily grinding coffee in the morning and stuffing it into the horn, I went on strike and demanded a coffee machine. I came to the following conclusion: what kind of coffee you put in it, regardless of whether it is a carob coffee maker or an expensive coffee machine, you will get such coffee. No fancy bean coffee machine will make you the tastiest coffee, just as no espresso machine can turn precious Maragogip into swill. The choice is yours. Don't want to mess around with grinding beans in the morning - the coffee machine is for you.
I will say a few more words in defense of expensive coffee machines. I have Delongy Prima donna ESAM 6700. So, it does not require flushing. She herself does this when turned on (10 seconds) and off (5 seconds). In standby mode, of course, not - cook at least ten cups, it will not bother you. The infuser, unlike other machines, can be removed from it and rinsed once a month just under the tap without soap. And once every five months - a twenty-minute decalcification. That's the whole concern. My business is only to fill in the water, and to fill in the grains.
Masinen
Helen and my yadelongi also work like that))
Only water, but good coffee and mustache))
Elena Tim
What are we talking about, Mashun. Delongy drives! And although from the very beginning I aimed at Yura for 125 tysh, I fell directly ill with her, but I came to the conclusion that I would have to wait for her until the second coming. And she persuaded herself to her Diva. I am very satisfied.
I myself have not come across, pah-pah-pah, but they say that Delonga's service is excellent.
Elena Tim
Listen, Manyun, and your Magnifica also has a removable brewing unit, right?
Masinen
I changed knives on mine that year. The stone hit, it was in the coffee.
Paid 2,500 sput)
I honestly don't know if they changed the knives or if they pulled out the stone, but they ripped me off for repairs. Nobody showed me knives. And it was done with me in the service.

Yeah, removable) I clean it with a vacuum cleaner periodically)
TatianaSa
And the last question to the owners of DeLonga. The store said that they have a mechanism where coffee is brewed plastic (maybe I wrote it wrong). And that coffee can taste plastic because of this. Forgive the teapot!
Masinen
Yes, made of plastic, and the grill itself is steel.
But there was never a taste of plastic at all!
TatianaSa
If the grill is steel, then this mechanism, as I understand it, does not come into contact with coffee from plastic during the brewing process and there can be no plastic taste. I'm right?
Elena Tim
There is no smell at all!
Elena Tim
Quote: TatianaSa
If the grill is steel, then this mechanism, as I understand it, does not come into contact with plastic during the brewing process and there can be no plastic taste. I'm right?
I'll get it out, take a picture and show it. Abashdi wait a minute!
Elena Tim
Here, look, the grate is steel, and the plastic around is very thick.
Coffee machine

But there is no smell of plastic even close. And there never was!
TatianaSa
I didn't understand anything. So does the plastic come into contact with the drink during brewing or not?
TatianaSa
The sellers poured croup into me, while discouraging me from DeLonga precisely because of this feature.
Elena Tim
Tan, I don't even know what to say. Well, look, Masha Delonga's, mine too ... we both say that it doesn't smell like plastic, so what's the difference, a plastic infuser or a metal one. But it's all the same for you to choose. If you want metal, take Krups. But then consult with the owners of the Krups, just in case. So I didn't bother on this topic and I didn't care about metal or plastic there. The main thing for me is that the coffee is brewed by itself and it turns out delicious with the aroma of coffee, not plastic. And Delongy, in fact, as everyone knows, is far from the latest company in the production of coffee machines, they know what they are doing!
Kirks
Don’t listen to them, they need to sell Krups, and the Delongues are good coffee machines. I have been using it for a long time.
TatianaSa
Thank you girls !!!! I will take Delongy
Elena Tim
Good luck! Then sign off at least what you bought. It's interesting!
TatianaSa
She refused the latest model. I liked someone like yours: girl-yes: I'll take her
Elena Tim
Why refused? What's wrong there?
TatianaSa
This is not so with me ... TOAD has appeared!
Elena Tim
A! Well, this is a serious matter! She's such a toad! God forbid cling ..
Tanyusha
Krups should not be taken in any way, since these machines very often break down and go all the way back to them. When I bought the first typewriter, I studied the ixbt forum for a very long time, there aces on coffee machines communicate and a lot of useful information. Yes, and in my delongue, there is not any plastic aftertaste, it has been working for the 2nd year already.
Masinen
I have Krups, too)
She is sooo capricious! But coffee makes it delicious.
I'm shaking over her, and no one touches her acre me)
Cvetaal
and I am very happy with my Delongy, although it is inexpensive, it also washes myself before and after, coffee does not smell like plastic
Margit
TatianaSa
Delonga's insides are the same, it is even an expensive model, even a cheap one, it does not smell of plastic. I had a Delonghi Esam 4200, it worked for more than two years without breakdowns, then I sold it in excellent condition. I just want to say that inexpensive models have a steamer handle (cappuccinatore) made of very thin plastic and can easily break. It is best to choose a model with pushbutton functions such as the De Longhi ESAM 6620 model.
TatianaSa
Girls, thank you very much for responding and helping with good advice!
tanja-55
I, too, on the advice of the local girls, bought Delongy ESAM 22.360. IN MAGNIFICA, and very happy! Coffee is prepared at the touch of a button and rinses itself out, before and after preparation.
paradise
Help!!!!! We bought Delongy 23.450 half a year ago, everything worked fine until a week ago, when making coffee, it began to buzz hysterically. When preparing a large cup, it produced only 2/3 of the norm. When turned off, I did not rinse myself. I pressed the forced rinsing from the nozzles, the water did not go, but squeezed out a few drops. Cleaned the infuser and decalcify. We were overjoyed that I had cleaned everything, and here on you, on the board "adjust the grind" and "insert the tap". What to do? What could it break?
tatjanka
paradise, do not panic, this is a technique, sometimes it happens with it. (I have the same CM). Have you tried turning it on and off from the outlet? Maybe the settings are out of order? Try setting up again and making a cup of coffee. And nothing could get along with the coffee, maybe what kind of byaka does not allow the CM to work normally?
Masinen
Does the coffee grind? Or hums when it starts cooking after grinding?
paradise
Turned on and off from the socket. Reset to factory settings. Did not help. Coffee grinds. Buzzing when trying to pass water.

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