The bread maker smells strongly of plastic when baking.

Oh, the bread maker has started baking and the smell of plastic is soooo !! Will this first bread be eaten or do the birds need to feed?

[caprice23]

caprice23, my kind didn't smell like plastic ... we ate the first bread. But as I understand it, it also depends on the personal characteristics of the sense of smell, maybe I do not have such a sharp "scent"

it depends on what the batch of plastic was. There is such a fragrant one. My first 2501 was smelly too.
This means that this will not poison the bread, it does not smell in a bucket, but if it is unpleasant to eat, give it to the birds.
Leave the stove with the lid open.
But .. the main thing is to buy worse flour and run the stove exclusively on the Baking program several times. Mix flour with water and let it bake)))
so as not to warm an empty bucket.
Often a couple of times are enough and the smell disappears. It's just that everything new should burn out when heated up: grease, dry out and stop stinking the plastic case and so on, which is very new there now.
Several starts of Baking with airing the oven will remove the problem.

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, thanks, I will.
The bread is baked. By itself it smells very tasty mmmm .. But the smell around the apartment is kind of pungent, so yes, you have to drive on baked goods. I won't give it to the birds, we'll eat it ourselves

And you can not drive the oven on "baking" without a bucket? Just blank?

no big deal, don't worry. Mine smelled long enough, because then I was stupid and did not figure out how to immediately solve the problem, and the bread was eaten without problems
Then, over time, everything passed, but why endure the discomfort when you can quickly get rid of it right away.



Maybe you can, you need to ask our engineers.
This is a question for Sasha. Is it possible to drive the oven empty on baking?
In the operating instructions, there is not the slightest mention of idling for a long time without a bucket with the product, which means there is no direct permission.
That is, this issue needs to be consulted by a specialist, while a couple of normal pastries with a bucket are not prohibited at all.
You can bake the cake several times, if it's useful.

Oh, the bread maker has started baking and the smell of plastic is soooo !!

I aired for a couple of days - HP stood with the lid open. When the first bread was baked, it smelled a little plastic. Then there was no smell.

And you can not drive the oven on "baking" without a bucket? Just blank?

Something I don't like this idea

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, I will not bother then if there is a proven method. I’ll run it on baked goods with cheap flour.



The bread turned out to be high with a convex roof. Only on one side did it rise stronger. The hill turned out to be small.
Everyone walks around licking their lips, they can't wait until they can try)

[caprice23]

caprice23, you have service telephone numbers. Talk about the acrid smell of plastic and listen to their recommendations. The acrid smell of plastic does not affect baked goods, but is harmful to human health.

which means there is no direct permission.

But there is no direct prohibition either. Apparently the Japanese designers do not know that in production they can muddle the casting of the case without preliminary testing for corrosive plastic fumes. I don't see any crime in running the oven in baking mode without a bucket. Well, the relyuha will click more often than with a bucket and nothing more. Although Sasha should wait.

they can't wait when they can try)

Try you can immediately. Especially a crust of butter. But it's better to eat it after 6 or 8 hours. I always put it on the machine at night, without bothering with koloboks. At about three in the morning the smell of bread wakes up, I get up, shake it out, cover it and go to fill up.At 7 o'clock we are already having breakfast with fresh bread

caprice23, you have service phone numbers. Tell us about the acrid smell of plastic and listen to their recommendations

I'd rather run it off with the test, as I don't want to call
If the smell does not disappear for a very long time, then yes, you will have to call. But I still hope that my actions will be enough.

I don’t want to call

Are you afraid that your ear will be bitten off through the tube? For one thing and ask about the idle run.
SC not only repairs, but also trains, advises. This is his responsibility.

Are you afraid that your ear will be bitten off through the tube? For one thing and ask about the idle run.

I'm afraid so). I'm a coward. If it’s completely pinned down (((

You can try right away. Especially a pink salmon with butter. But it's better to eat it after 6 or 8 hours.

I decided to wait an hour and a half, just in time for dinner it would work out. No one from my family will give me any longer to withstand bread, and so everyone walks in circles

just in time for dinner.

It is right!
And in the SC, employees are rewarded for consulting buyers. And you deprive them of another cookie. Ask. It's their job to answer questions.

But .. the main thing is to buy worse flour and run the stove exclusively on the Baking program several times. Mix flour with water and let it bake)))
so as not to warm an empty bucket.
Often a couple of times are enough and the smell disappears. It's just that everything new should burn out when heated up: grease, dry out and stop stinking the plastic case and so on, which is very new there now.
Several starts of Baking with airing the oven will clear up the problem.

Well, you can drive away without a bucket at all. Why spoil food. Select the "baking" mode, set the time and start.

Well, you can drive away without a bucket at all.

Woo, what did I say ?! Natasha, I also wrote about this above

so you can drive away without a bucket at all. Why spoil food. Select the "baking" mode, set the time and start

It was just suggested above that it might not be safe this way.
Left open overnight, let airing.

[Vit, Natalia.]

Vit, Natalia.
I started by calling the Panasonic service. And in such cases they offer to go to them for testing with a stove. There is no other way. No one will do anything without expertise. You carry the stove yourself
The stove should not smell, as they explained to me, but the examination will decide everything.
What would it be if I was lucky - I don't know: would they change it or send me stupidly home?
Mine then completely stopped smelling and works great.


About running the bucket idle.
Maybe you can. But if it is impossible, then you can ditch the stove, which is very expensive for today.
I do not know how the temperature control works in the Bake program.
In Panasonic multicooker, there is a strict ban on turning on the ten without a saucepan with food and there is protection against overheating.

If the sensor measures and controls the temperature in the chamber all the time, then you can do it without a bucket. Electronics will not overheat.
And if, for example, there is no such control for some time, and it turns on at the last stage, then it is already possible to overheat.
Or maybe the ten first turns on at high power, taking into account the cool bucket, and then only the control turns on? then such inclusion of no load for the ten can be harmful.

I cannot be sure of the safety of idle switching until the specialist says for sure that it is possible. It is easy to make mistakes and get big money.
I did not ask such a question in the Panasonic service.

About running the bucket idle.
Maybe you can. But if it is impossible, then you can ditch the stove, which is very expensive for today.

Since the question is controversial, I will not risk it, I will drive it on baking with flour and water. It's not difficult for me, for the sake of such a thing



I am reporting. I drove flour-water on baking. The smell was, but weaker. I think one more run will be enough)

you also need to leave the stove with the lid open for airing the rest of the time.

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, I leave. Worth aired

And what is there to ventilate inside? It smells of delicious bread there. Here is a soft cloth to wipe from the remnants of flour and burnt crumbs - worth it. If you find one.



And try not to disturb the thermal sensor again.

Not .. plastic, after all, can absorb odors, but it is already odorous by itself.
When it completely burns out and disappears, then let the breads be tasty and absorb. And under the lid there are also holes for ventilation. So don't talk until it smells good, just keep the lid open.
Mine smelled from the ventilation holes on the back, don't understand what.
The camera itself, bread, a bucket, yeah, no complaints.

There is no plastic inside the hp.

[Wit]

Wit, I sniffed her from top to bottom. Carried from somewhere inside from the holes in the back. It was so pungent that the whole room stank. At the same time, the smell began precisely on baking, that is, when heated. And then it stopped completely. Does it mean it's burned out? But what exactly could not dig, not disassemble the stove.

Carried from somewhere inside from the holes in the back. It was so pungent that the whole room stank. At the same time, the smell began precisely on the baking

That's exactly the way it is with me

And try not to disturb the thermal sensor again.

In general, I am shaking over her, I try to perform all actions with her carefully and accurately)

[caprice23]

caprice23, so it sometimes stinks with me if, through my fault, flour gets on the heating elements, so it burns. Here the mistress's fault is due to carelessness, but not the stove. When a bun with a skirt, we add flour, and hold the strainer with flour too high, a little flour gets on the heating elements.

[Ala]

I then rummaged on the Internet and there I found information that this was due to plastic, what for the plastic I did not understand. Maybe not a body, but some kind of plastic piece of thread. Like Panasonic orders components from different places and sometimes such a fragrant batch comes.
They even complained about the metal 2512, although I understand that there is also enough plastic there.
That is, this problem is only for a certain batch of HP and depends on the quality of the components in the assembly.
If the service center was under my nose, then I would not be too lazy and poked them with my nose. Because the stench from my stove would be enough for an examination. Mine did not stop stinking immediately, although it bakes like a queen.

Ala, flour and stuff have nothing to do with it. It is precisely a pungent chemical smell. When my stove became good, then this smell disappeared completely and irrevocably.

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, maybe the technical grease burns, which protects the spare parts in the warehouse from rust, from which the bread maker is subsequently assembled? After all, you do not admit the thought that some extra plastic part could burn out, which in no way affects the performance of the bread machine?

And what he likes can be. Maybe the grease will burn, but ... I'm not sure. The lubricant certainly has a constant composition and is unified and then it would burn for so long for everyone.
I'm more inclined to stink from plastic parts. For example, in the manufacture of plastic, they added some kind of volatile stink to save money, which evaporates when heated. So it takes so long to evaporate. And as it evaporated, everything became fine.
Or maybe there is a protective film that remained, was not removed during assembly and it burns.
Nothing burned there, since the stove is working and baking flawlessly.
But something stinky has definitely disappeared

Funtik, don't guess. Hp casing made of UPS (Shockproof PolyStyrol). Google to help and in front. I write like you can't (treatises). Don't panic or scare people with what you read. In the HP case, this UPS is small compared to wall panels in homes and offices. There is hell !!! I'll give you a link offhand, and then you can develop the topic yourself.

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and here. Just don't be scared. This does not apply to HP cases.

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And in hp with a "metal case" the same polystyrene, only wrapped in a piece of stainless steel for a higher cost of two.

I will not write treatises
And what do you think it can smell chemically for a long time, but does not affect the operation of the stove in any way? And it doesn't smell like burnt flour, but chemically like burnt plastic and the whole room. If you bring your face to the holes, it even tingles in your nose. Therefore, I thought about plastic or a protective film.
At the service center, they told me that this type cannot be - bring it. But it happens and not only with me.

My new bread maker didn't smell at all

yeah, girlfriends also don't smell from the first day of purchase, my second one is absolutely odorless. But my very first 2501 excelled. I was very surprised, because everyone here pointed out that after a couple of baked goods the smell disappears from them, and mine turned out to be stubborn
I was just too lazy to transfer it to a distant service, I delayed and delayed everything, especially since this was not reflected in the bread. And then she corrected herself and I gave it to my mother, where she now safely continues to bake with only delicious smells.

I didn't smell at all. I gave links to polystyrene, how it is made and what nasty things they add. Poured - here's the smell. Superfluous filth, as it were, begins to be expelled, poisoning everything around. Evaporated - and already no poisonous smell. Now about the hole. The muck begins to evaporate at a high temperature. And the higher the temperature, the more intense the evaporation is. Where is the highest temperature? Praaaal, around the hole! This is where the evaporation of muck is the most intense. And cha has the impression that the siphonite is from the hole. Everything is elementary, Watson.

Today I baked some bread. The third time it turns out the oven worked on baking. It smelled a little less, but smelled. Caustic, from the holes in the back of the lid. I also smelled everything from all sides, the smell was from there. This smell is not transmitted to bread, thank God. But so far it is impossible to enjoy the awesome smell of baked bread
Windows for airing and wait until baked.
And what are the little white things that the heating elements hold made of? Maybe they smell?

Mine did not stop stinking immediately, although it bakes like a queen.

When is it far from right away? Week, month? When did your smell go?

I don’t remember. This was my first stove and I just baked and baked. But not two weeks for sure. More. Maybe even about two months.
in fact, I never took her to the service, or maybe they would have changed it right away.
Can you still call them and ask for an examination?
If yours does not stop smelling quickly now in 3-5 pastries, then it will stink for a long time. If there is no patience, then .. can you still go to the service center and as soon as possible so that the defect is evident?



And .. the stove is new and under warranty. There is no need to pick and study anything there, running into problems around your neck.

[caprice23]

caprice23, Natasha, in which store did you buy the stove?

I bought it from the media store. The stove was released in January 2017.

I'll wait a couple more baked goods. I don't know if we have a Panasonic service at all. Need to find out. To be honest, it's not a hunt to contact services.

did you call the store? can they accept?

No, she didn't. But can they accept used goods?

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, They can only take for examination and further repairs.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, so I think the same. You can't just return it back and take a new one



I'll torment her for another week, take a look, and then, if anything, I'll crawl into the service.

I am reporting after two weeks. There is a smell, but hardly noticeable, so I decided not to bother and not to carry it to any service. This does not affect the taste of the bread and still gradually fades away