Alexander Light1
Ttianika
At the beginning of the development of the animal, they tried all sorts of recipes - it turned out with varying degrees of success. The recipe from Admin turned out to be the most optimal in our understanding. It turns out to be a normal bun. You just need to have a rest under the film for 30-40 minutes. Regarding the heating of the inserts, we must try. What's the point, though?
tatianika
Alexander Svet1, another question. Do you have a nozzle 012? This is pasta with a hole. And one more thing: how do you store finished products? Do you eat everything at once? Freeze or dry?
Agata
Quote: zvezda

I'm not just comparing .... I use both of them ..
zvezdochka, thank you, here is the answer to the question that has tormented me all the last time. After all, I have an "old man" food processor - Philips. Yes, it creaks sometimes, but perfectly grinds meat, chops, whips, etc. But for large volumes, Kenwood KM020 (or Ken, as I called it) is quite suitable.
Here, I expect his arrival from an Internet store at a price of 4457 UAH. And in the electronics store of the neighboring quarter, the same one costs UAH 5799
P.S. People, count your money, order equipment in proven online stores.
Lyi
Quote: LiudmiLka

Lyi, what are you doing there, how are you? Hasn't the harvester arrived yet?
The combine has not arrived yet. Here I was still worried, there was some failure in the mail, and on the mail website, where all shipments are reflected, there was a record that the parcel with such and such (my) identification number did not go through. Only this morning I checked and, finally, it was reflected that the parcel was coming to me. They sent it to my address on Monday, maybe it will appear next week.
I haven’t calmed down to the end, but it became easier. And then even the Breadmaker did not go to the site so as not to get upset.
Alexander Light1 thanks for the answers, but as always, new questions appear for each answer:
1. Why knead the dough in HP, but not in this combine. I bought it just for these purposes, so as not to overload the bread maker?
2. Is it possible to cook macaroons right away without drying them? I have no desire to dry them, then store them somewhere. I want to; made a portion, ate and no worries.
Alexander Light1
Tatianika
We have only two inserts - this is the one that came with the kit and 003 - quite enough for us. We make pasta and noodles with a small margin. We dry well and in a bag.

Lyi

Naturally we knead the dough on the machine. This is the recipe I brought in origenale from Admin. We cook the first pasta almost immediately.
Dry a little and go
tatianika
And I want to add for Lyi. One batch (450 grams of flour) produces so much pasta that 8 people were fed. guests. So when I did it for myself, they ate half of it, and the other was frozen. A smaller batch does not work.

Alexander Svet1, thank you very much for your advice. We will try.
Lyi
Alexander Svet1, TatianikaThank you very much for your advice.
Little by little, everything settles in my head. Until I found these attachments 970 and 910, or rather, where I found it, they are not sent by mail. But they promise the arrival of nozzles in February. Maybe you're lucky.
Today I transferred money for a mill, a potato peeler and a low-speed grater + an AT642 juicer, that is, I took what I could take. Although in the first stage I planned exactly 910 and 970.
Also, Ken didn’t get hers, but already spent on the attachments.
panteracat
Here, I bought a mill attachment. Now I don't know where to start. My family is very fond of bread with the addition of corn flour. I used to buy cornmeal at the store, but now I would like to grind mine. Girls who use the mill attachment, please tell me.If I buy corn grits and grind them, should I make corn flour? And can it be added to bread? At first I thought that it would be possible to grind dried corn, but the instructions say that it just can't be ground.
Star, and you wash the wheat bought in Okey (or in other stores), the one in the bags? We sell this kind of wheat.
Kitchen machine Kenwood (1)
And tell me, can ground wheat of any grind (coarse, fine) be added to a bread recipe?
Kalmykova
panteracat ! I ground wheat at the finest grind, but it still turns out coarser than BC flour. I added it only to the sourdough (according to my convictions, bacteria and fungi should work on the bran first), like ordinary CZ flour. I think you can safely grind corn grits.
panteracat
I haven’t tried to be friends with sourdoughs yet, and we can’t find flour flour in Rostov either. I bake all the bread on BC flour. Well, I also use rye, oatmeal and corn flour. Buckwheat flour somehow did not go with us.
And is CH flour the one that is not peeled (in the husk)? I would love to see her.
It turns out that it was possible not to buy a mill attachment. Her cost is not small, 3800 rubles. And for this money, plus a little more, it was better to buy rolling out for 5000 rubles. Yes, the nozzles bite at our price.
Lyi
Agata !!! With the purchase !!! Happy !!!
I'm already worn out in anticipation. I'm waiting.
P.S. Now it just occurred to me: how many boxes should I wait? Or does it all fit into one box?
I have a clean KM 020, that is, without a meat grinder and juicer, most likely without a bdender.
I do not want to call this store again, I already terrorized them because of problems with the mail.
Svetik_
Lyi don't worry ... you will have one huge box, the peasants will deliver it to you
As I saw mine, I was almost stunned ...... I thought how to take her, my husband also scratched his turnip and said that he was very "small", could no longer ???
Well, how did it happen, I didn't expect it myself
fabiani
Hello girls! Take the happy owners of Kenwood into your ranks Yesterday we bought a harvester and I can't get enough of it. Since I am not a particularly experienced cook, I opted for Kenwood KM 336, I wanted to order it on the Internet. And then I went with my husband to the store and saw KM 010. In general, we compared both combines and decided to take KM 010, because it is much better and more solid than KM 336. Now I am happy as an elephant was already kneading dough into muffins and making juice , everything is just class, nothing to complain about Now such questions have ripened, is it possible to knead minced meat for cutlets in it and what nozzle? And what kind of nozzle to make mashed potatoes (meaning, interfere)? Thanks in advance for the answers
Svetik_
fabiani Congratulations with all my heart on your purchase
The choice is also cool. When I was looking for Kenwood at one time .......... 020 was nowhere, there was exactly the same excitement, and I was offered 010 at a good price, so I never regretted, great car, well the bowl is slightly smaller, so what ???
He's just super

I think it's not convenient to knead the minced meat with a hook, I really have a separate Brown meat grinder for this, so I can't tell you, but you can mix the puree with a K-shaped nozzle, but ............. .... there were also lumps, for this we are waiting for Kenwood-724 with a nozzle for mashed potatoes to arrive in Ukraine
fabiani
Thanks a lot for the congratulations! And for a prompt response too. KM 020, nevertheless, is too big for me and my needs, I do not cook in such quantities. Before that, I had a Bosch MUM, also a good machine, but the graters there did not suit me at all, for example, they ground carrots into porridge, in general, not my option. I began to search the Internet for some car that not only kneads well, but also rubs as I need. So I stumbled upon this wonderful unit, chose and compared for a long time, wanted to start with the simplest combine, and then I thought that it was not bought for a year or two, so I decided on a cooler option. There were also doubts about KM 336, when I saw it live, all made of plastic, and not of the highest quality, it leans back sharply, it just jumps up at the same time. And KM 010 is metal and everything works smoothly, without jerking
Zest
fabiani
I knead the minced meat with a K-shaped metal nozzle. Spanks him in full

I like puree airy and weightless. This is exactly what is obtained using the same K-shaped nozzle. While whipping, add warm milk as needed. I didn't notice lumps
Lyi
Quote: Agata

Lyi, fit, we were also carrying a Zhiguli in the trunk. And everything is packed compactly in one box.
And why do you have Kenwood KM020 without a blender, is this a standard set for Russia and the CIS countries? When I examined and read everything, it became clear that it was made in "high-quality" China, and it was brought to Ukraine from Russia.

fabiani, Congratulations! Now we are with you, we will add new recipes.
I don’t know, for some reason the blender was not mentioned in the description of this Ken.
In order not to get upset later, I decided not to wait for him.
And then when I climbed on the Internet looking for him, I saw a lot of cars with an incomplete even of a K-shaped nozzle, a whisk, etc. do not sell anywhere.
Agata
Lyi, a blender will be required. Only it is packed in a box in the corner, I barely found it. You then write if the complete set is complete, if anything, we will help you find the missing nozzles in Ukraine. Do you know what our HP brotherhood is in Donetsk? We will also find unnecessary attachments for you
fabiani
Quote: Zest

fabiani, I knead the minced meat with a K-shaped metal nozzle. Spanks him in full

I like puree airy and weightless. This is exactly what is obtained using the same K-shaped nozzle. While whipping, add warm milk as needed. I didn't notice lumps
That's cool, I'll definitely try, otherwise I don't want to knead the minced meat with my hands, especially when such an assistant has settled in the kitchen. Usually, I first knead the puree a little with a fork, and then beat it with an ordinary mixer, it turns out a very airy mass. Therefore, I asked about mashed potatoes, there is also a whisk in the combine, I thought that I needed to whip them, but now I will try with the nozzle that you advised

Quote: Zest

fabiani I regret the whisk, but first knead it with a fork - Kenwood's charter does not allow me to strain myself if there is such a giant standing next to me))

The K-shaped nozzle grinds everything itself, without preliminary manipulations
Cool, it's even better! Can I have another question? Does anyone have a grater attachment? Which works at low speed, how does it rub carrots? Is it very fine or is it good? I used to grate on Bosch MUM, so there it turned out some kind of porridge with a lot of carrot juice, this was not suitable for me for frying

Quote: leka

fabiani, congratulations !!!!! It's just a super helper

I also kneaded the minced meat with a K shaped, and with a whisk I only knead whites, cream, and a biscuit

Thank you! I haven't done much yet, I just kneaded the dough and squeezed the juice, and I'm already happy like an elephant

Quote: Svetik_

fabiani I have a high-speed nozzle, and there it chops one-two-three

It's just that I already ordered a low-speed one, so I'm wondering how it rubs. As for the high-speed one, I still think, until I can not make up my mind. A high-speed one like rubbing a carrot? Large shavings? How many centimeters long? The question may be stupid, but I don't want to buy and be disappointed, it's still an expensive pleasure
Zest
Quote: fabiani

Cool, it's even better! Can I have another question? Does anyone have a grater attachment? Which works at low speed, how does it rub carrots? Is it very fine or is it good? I used to grate on Bosch MUM, so there it turned out some kind of porridge with a lot of carrot juice, this was not suitable for me for frying

I have a low speed one. Rubs without any juice. For frying just right. One drum with the size of the cells is slightly smaller than in our ordinary Soviet-style hand graters, in another - very small, smaller than a match head.
zvezda
fabianiCongratulations!!!!!!! I have the most running low-speed grater .... I rub almost everything on it !!! Only a large amount of code, then high-speed ...and the mince knocks out K-shaped just with a bang !!!!! As well as mashed potatoes .... though I do rubbery ... for some reason it is more nra to me !!! try ... go for it .... with such a machine you can handle everything !!! In the first days I filled so many proteins ...
fabiani
OK, thanks, about the low speed one, I calmed down, it's good that I ordered. We sell carrots in packages of 1 kg, while you use them all, they start to deteriorate in the refrigerator. So I got out of the situation, rubbing on a grater, putting it in bags and in the freezer. Then I take it out as needed, but it is stored there for a very long time, nothing is done to it. I used to rub it with a Berner grater, but while you rub it all, my hands fall off

Quote: Svetik_

As for a Korean carrot 3 centimeters, I'm used to it already ... I like

Everyone, I'm tempted more and more Korean carrots highly respect. And what other graters are there? That is, how do they rub? The grater for Korean carrots is probably the smallest? Or is there even smaller?
Kalmykova
I would like it differently in Korean, but there is something. An ordinary grater, that's all. Somewhere above, I exhibited a photo of a shabby carrot on a coarse grater. Sizes are the same for low and high speed. I remind those who are waiting for their car: there are a lot of different packages, carefully unfold everything. A very important thing is hidden in the package with a rubber stirrer - a wrench for tightening the depth of the nozzles. But packed so that you can easily throw it away. Congratulations to everyone on the new assistants!
Aunt Besya
Quote: fabiani

OK, thanks, about the low speed one, I calmed down, it's good that I ordered. We sell carrots in packages of 1 kg, while you use them all, they start to deteriorate in the refrigerator. So I got out of the situation, rubbing on a grater, putting it in bags and in the freezer. Then I take it out as needed, but it is stored there for a very long time, nothing is done to it. I used to rub it with a Berner grater, but while you rub it all, my hands fall off
I have my own carrot, from the dacha. but my husband still doesn’t bring a piece from the garage ..
Therefore, I do this: I wash it with an Amveevskaya mesh and specially I have a container from the "Aquacontrol" series of Tapper, there is a lot of it (y) It is stored perfectly, does not lose moisture, does not grow moldy, in general I recommend it. It is not always the grated that is needed!
Rina
Today I am convinced that CM is becoming simply necessary. Somehow, not enough for pies of yeast dough from 500 g of flour ... Eh, half the price to the cherished dream ...
fabiani
Quote: Aunt Besya

I have my own carrot, from the dacha. but my husband still doesn’t bring a piece from the garage ..
Therefore, I do this: I wash it with an Amveevskaya mesh and specially I have a container from the "Aquacontrol" series of Tapper, there is a lot of it (y) It is stored perfectly, does not lose moisture, does not grow moldy, in general I recommend it. It is not always the grated that is needed!
Yes, the fact is that we only three of it, it does not go anywhere else, well, in extreme cases, cut into rings to decorate some dish.
Agata
Rina72, dear, of course necessary. I, too, all the time thought that all this was pampering, well, there is an old Philips in the household, but today, having tried my Ken in the work, I even cried at how little we sometimes love ourselves and allow us to buy high-quality equipment.
Now it is clear when professionals (eg hairdressers) say that it is very pleasant to work with a good tool.
And, in general, with Ken I feel like a Barbie
P.S. just in case: price monitoring showed that on Kenwood КМ020 the price in the Rosette is 167 cu less than Mega Max. e.
leka
Yes, Natasha, my husband always says when there is a choice between an average-priced item and an expensive, high-quality one, that "We are not so rich to buy cheap things", in the sense that a miser pays twice is still not enough for a long time and will have to buy a new one again ...
fabiani
Good morning everyone! I report that yesterday I mixed the minced pork into kakletki, I just left everything in the bowl and kneaded everything with a K-shaped nozzle.Minced meat turned out just awesome and in a couple of minutes! I would knead for a long time with my hands to such a state. Today I kneaded the dough into a biscuit, this is something! Such a tender dough! Only in the silicone spatula I was disappointed, I rubbed it with a washcloth while washing, so now it is all scratched

Quote: leka

Yes, Natasha, my husband always says when there is a choice between an average-priced item and an expensive, high-quality one, that "We are not so rich to buy cheap things", in the sense that a miser pays twice is still not enough for a long time and will have to buy a new one again ...
I have long been of the same opinion as your husband. After unsuccessful experiments with cheap equipment, I was finally convinced of this

Quote: Rina72

The Kenwoods (I have a food processor) have not even silicone paddles, but some kind of plastic. Very comfortable (they were much more comfortable for me than silicone ones), but terribly weak for any scuffs or cuts.
Yes, I already noticed. It's a pity, it is so comfortable, it scrapes everything so well. I have a whole army of all kinds of silicone paddles, but they don't even compare to this one. I wonder if you can order one on the Internet?
matroskin_kot
Well, mustache! I'm already all confused. I want Kenwood 020 or 023. On the sites, the bundle is, to say the least, strange. In Kupikenwood, for example, a whisk with silicone is written - no? And there should be. For others, in the absence of a blender, it is mentioned in a set of 4 attachments - a universal knife. Is this hto? And the spatulas are mentioned. If it's just a silicone spatula, you can survive, or maybe I'll disappear without it? You can get mad. 023 turns out to be assembled cheaper than if you buy attachments in addition, so 023 also has different configurations. It turns out. Good for Ukraine, there is more choice. At least get ready for a visit. Or buy 020, and then buy more slowly. We don't have these attachments in our stores at all. In short, I was sucked in by a dangerous quagmire ...
Svetik_
Girls, and today I bought a mill in Foskmart, I completely disassembled it, everything is new inside, but outside it is a little shabby, but the price made me happy, she just waited for me for several months, this is my thing, its price is 99 UAH, and then I looked that the girl still had Kenwood accessories under the counter and I look and there is a roll, only for noodles and pasta ............. and asked about her, so she sold it to me for ..... ............... 1 UAH., Think ??? This is for the action left, well, I got it, now I would take the main rolling somewhere and everything will be all right
Losikom
Girls who have Kenwood 266, tell me, please! Do you have the upper part (where the attachments are inserted) rises when kneading the dough? I bought a dough on Friday, today I tried to knead the dough on the cake (the consistency is like for pancakes), and the upper part rises during the kneading process. So I think, the norm or the marriage?
Rina
Ladies! Attention! I will clean the topic extremely hard and repeatedly, otherwise it will soon have to be sent to the archive.
Therefore, I ask you not to be offended by the deletion of any posts.
Kosharik
Does anyone use the AT320 (chopper) attachment? I need to grind sugar and spices. So I sit and think - should I take it or take an ordinary millstone coffee grinder?
Aunt Besya
The spices grind perfectly. (y) I have not tried sugar, for some reason I use a Zepter maker, am I used to it or what?
Kalyusya
Quote: Losikom

Girls who have Kenwood 266, tell me, please! Do you have the upper part (where the attachments are inserted) rises when kneading the dough? I bought a dough on Friday, today I tried to knead the dough on the cake (the consistency is like for pancakes), and the upper part rises during the kneading process. So I think, the norm or the marriage?


Did you read the instructions carefully? I rewrite: some shaking of the mixer head is normal when mixing thick masses, for example. test.
Aunt Besya
Quote: Kosharik

Aunt Besya, thank you! Is it convenient to use?
Conveniently! I constantly grind tomatoes in it for Italian bread, spices. there are 4 jars with lids. I have one empty at the ready, and three are occupied as storage containers (well, so that they don't just take up space)
Quote: zvezda

Aunt Besya !!!!!!! I'm in a panic !!! I have this low-speed knocks a little and kind of jumps up .... my husband said that this is a manufacturing defect ... there is something missing ....... you could take a LARGE picture of the part that is inserted into the combine (piece of iron ) ... maybe I really have a marriage ???
Don't panic, I'll do it in the evening and show it ...
Quote: Lyi

Aunt Basya, can you show what these containers are? This is "smart cold" or necessarily "Aquacontrol"
And where they are sold, I found only through a joint purchase, but one in Vladivostok (far away), the second only for Moscow, and the third in Ukraine, I'm not sure if they want to be sent by mail.
Pliz, photo, or even better, a website where they are sold.
I apologize to the moderators, after answering, you can delete this post or forward it somewhere. The main thing is that Aunt Basia saw him and answered.
I have exactly this Kitchen machine Kenwood (1)
And in general I have a whole bunch of them and I'm super happy with everyone !! They are impervious to air and moisture, I store yeast in them, bread mixes, confectionery mixes, dry onions, ground coffee, etc.
I buy from my distributor, not through the website. But here 🔗 delivery is offered, the truth is expensive, you need to look in your city
Agata
Ladies, now I am re-reading all the instructions for Kenwood, because I am interested in one question. Yesterday, kneading the dough for 2 loaves at once, I thought, how long can you run the stirrers so as not to overheat the motor? In HP, we stir for 10-20 minutes.
For example, I still do not know how to determine exactly the state of the kolobok visually, and even kneading the dough with a hook, the kolobok somehow does not look like itself
I reread your tips on the nozzles, but for yeast dough, I still prefer the hook (and according to the laws of physics, it suits more).
About the Kenwood blender it is written that it should work no more than 1 minute, then a break and you can turn it on again.
And here? Share your experience, please.
Lyi
Quote: Aunt Besya

And in general I have a whole bunch of them and I'm super happy with everyone !! They are impervious to air and moisture, I store yeast in them, bread mixes, confectionery mixes, dry onions, ground coffee, etc.
I buy from my distributor, not through the website. But here 🔗 delivery is offered, the truth is expensive, you need to look in your city
Aunt Besya, thank you!
on this site I looked through the catalog. It turns out that I have been missing them for a long time. And for carrots with beets, and for yeast and for all spices, so that the shashel that I got this year on dried tomatoes (the jar was closed with a plastic lid), and for cheese does not fall.
I will call the Krasnodar distributors, maybe they will sell cheaper than in the catalog, although I doubt it.
In general, I am very satisfied, thank you again.
Lyi
Leka, Matroskin Kot!
I can't wait myself, but I'm not very worried yet. On January 24, a parcel was sent from Moscow, and this week, in theory, everything should come.
I also ordered 3 attachments there: a mill, a potato peeler, a low-speed grater + an AT-642 juicer. We must send these attachments on February 2 (I just received a message about this on soap).
I did not find any 970 nozzles, 910, or a sieve. This is my first priority.
If you go to Ukraine, can we somehow cooperate? Although they are unlikely to wait for us there, today they are, tomorrow they are not.
Maybe they will appear later, if I am the first where I see them, I will inform you, and if you are, then post a link here.
Kalmykova
Agata ! I answer about the batch. Since I do everything by eye, I will not say in the scales. But if you have a proven recipe for HP, then put everything in a bucket and mess until it starts to peel off the walls (at 4th speed for 7-8 minutes). I thin the dough for tin bread, and milk it until everything is collected on the mixer and starts to come off. As the kneading progresses, the formation of gluten is visible.

Quote: leka

Natalya, tell me, what kind of grater are you rubbing cabbage on? and cut small pieces? And then someone's drawbar is not enough
Yes, with an ambush cabbage - it takes longer to cut than she planes later. I cut into pieces of such a size that they fit into the neck. And I put the disc on the one with a large grater on one side, and a shredder on the other side (long blade). True, sometimes large chunks fly out, but we don't bother too much.
zvezda
Leka !!!!I always make cabbage at high speed !!! Ooooooo fast and convenient !!!
Or am I not about that ???
Lyi
Leka, and what is your speed attachment number?
I, scouring the Internet, came across the fact that there are 2 types of high-speed attachments for KM 020: AT340 as here
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and AT 998A, here
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and AT998A says that there is a wide mouth.
So I would like to compare in order to know which one you need to look for.
Unfortunately, both of these sites are not suitable for me, since they do not send goods by mail.
panteracat
Lyi, and where exactly do you live in the Krasnodar Territory? I live in Rostov and we have in stock some attachments for the Kenwood Maior CM. A week ago there were: a nozzle for sifting and wiping A 992 A (this is for Chef, but it fits perfectly with Maior, I use it myself) worth 1300r. For rolling A 970 worth 4900 rubles, as well as A971, A972 worth more than 3 thousand (I don't remember), a multi-shredder 1700 rubles.
Before that, there were other attachments. Of course, our prices in Russia are not as small as in Ukraine (one can only envy them), but in our Media Markt store the prices for attachments are slightly lower than the prices when ordering through an Internet store, plus delivery.
If anything, I could send it by mail, I think it is possible.
We also sometimes have "dropping" nozzles, as in Ukraine. A meat grinder, for example, was for 500 rubles (before that it cost 2500 rubles).
High-speed attachment AT 998 This is an old model and it costs less, but it is no worse than AT340
leka
I have AT988, but the one with 6 disks ... the neck will not say that it is large, but I have not seen another to compare
irrational
I have an AT340, the neck is absolutely standard size, as in the mulinex and kenwoods of the FP series, well, maybe just a little more than the FP series, or maybe it seems to me) I have 7 graters in it, as I understand it, the 8th is in the second high speed is it a dirun grater?
tatianika
We have both in our store: the new and the old high-speed ones. They differ in that the new nose (from where it is pouring) is metal. And now I remembered: like in a new one there is one less grater. Well, the new one is even more beautiful. And more expensive.
fabiani
Hello everyone! I report, for these days, that I just didn’t cook. I got a low-speed grater, I tried it and now I can’t get enough of it! Such a cool thing! Rubs everything exactly as I wanted. And I chopped carrots for frying, and shredded cabbage for filling for pies and for cabbage soup, cut mushrooms again for filling. I kneaded the dough twice for pies, made mashed potatoes ... In general, there is no limit to my joy! Only now I'm all in thought, I want a high-speed grater, but won't it duplicate the low-speed grater with its work? Girls who have both graters, please explain why you use them? And what do you use the harvester for, if someone has it?
irrational
Quote: ELa_ru

Lyi! And where did you order a potato peeler for KM 020? And what kind of

it is now marked: AT 952 or AT 445? I just can't find it. If

you can, please throw a link.

The new potato peeler is AT 445 🔗 When I was looking for attachments for myself, I often saw them available in various online stores.

I have a high-speed grater AT 340, there are 7 disks and they are all single, there are no double ones. There are two types of shredders, two types of fries (the larger and smaller ones are called for julienne) and three types of graters, large, medium and small. There is no disc for diruns (. And who bought nozzles for cutting pasta, 1.5 mm thickness of cutting is a little thicker than spaghetti? I don't know which one to take)
leka
fabiani, I did not specifically buy a processor (processor), since I bought a Blender Kenwood 724 for this, it crushes and grinds and whips small portions for me (and wash less).
What I would really like now is a juicer and a press for berries ... the harvesting season is ahead and they will be very useful
If you are happy with low speed, then why high speed? For example, having bought a high-speed one ... I will not take a low-speed one, even if I find a cheap one ... it seems to me that one is enough for the eyes

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