Wlad
LudmilaI have a lot of respect for cupcakes, so I will wait for the report of three single sifting, is it really or a waste of time
Mandraik Ludmila
I don't even know if I will notice the difference, I rarely bake cupcakes, but now I want to bake something Christmas - like a stollen, I have never baked this, there will be nothing to compare with. But I will unsubscribe. I like sowing with this sieve so much, and I want to sift something else.
Waist
Guys, I don’t want to interrupt you, you’re so sincerely communicating. But perhaps I’ll throw the chatter into a separate topic, I won’t delete it now, and then we’ll see. Just like in Vitaly's picture - we got together, and on my duty I should disperse you, but I don't want to
Now is a special season for gifts and people come to us to read useful useful information, ask advice ..., and we are here about cats trying

Continue already in Cafe "At Mrs. Sonya". ... The name was suggested by Vitaly

Quote: mamusi
Don't kick us out ...
Late...

Rituel, I'll be fired for this before the holiday


Wlad
NataliaForgive us unlucky




NataliaWe will defend you with cats in our hands
Waist
Quote: Dark Steppe Eagle
Forgive us unlucky ones
The most normal people
What can you do if there are rules
Then my hand does not rise, they will delete your sincere messages, I am also a man. And according to the rules - it is necessary
mamusi
Quote: Waist
Continue to the Cafe "At Mrs. Sonya's".
Great title !!!
Crown
Quote: sazalexter
There's no one to sniff out oxygen in fresh flour
Experts strongly do not recommend using fresh flour; wheat flour should mature for at least a month.
Waist
Flour that can be used should be released for sale at once , in all respects ready. If you buy flour, you also need to "nurture" it at home, then the manufacturer is unscrupulous

Crown
Nothing of the kind, the flour is ready and you can use it right away, but for baking it is better to wait a month.
It's like with rye bread, you can also eat it right away, but if you let it lie down, "ripen", then the bread will be tastier and healthier.
It's the same story with steamed meat.
mamusi
Ludaaa! Hey!) That's what my son dragged me by accident ...
They wrote here, but I do not remember who ... as if it was a very poor meal ...
Well, at least not in HP, but for cookies, waffles? A? WILL GO!

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
$ vetLana
mamusi, Rita, where is it produced? We have it Predportovy (if I'm not mistaken) releases it.
Wit
Here's my night-baked bread from Belonezhnaya. 350 grams of Belonezhnoy + 50 grams of rye Limak.

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Quote: mamusi
but I don’t remember who ... it’s like a really bad meal ...
"... but I don't remember who ..." - that's me. Ugorazdilo
Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, yes, the flour is not very good, I had 1 grade, besides, it crumpled - the humidity is high. It's really better to put it on waffles and cookies
Wit, nice bread turned out
Wit
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
Vit, a pretty bread turned out
This is always the result of this torment
Ninelle
I called today at all the baked goods. rf, and they told me so much nasty things about Panasonic, the last good stoves were in 2014, and now everything that can be made cheaper is cheaper, there is no coverage, the belt is almost made of bandage, and they tried to shove some kind of Italian stove. In the end, I don't pick up the phone and think ...
$ vetLana
Ninelle, and for what purpose did you call? If you want to buy HP, then certainly not in this store.
Ninelle
Quote: $ vetLana

Ninelle, and for what purpose did you call? If you want to buy HP, then certainly not in this store.
Is there a difference? They work with substandard quality, or what?
Mandraik Ludmila
Ninelle, these stories of sellers about the fact that Panasonic are not the same, are very popular in stores, we must also sell other stoves.Understanding people do not take any garbage And I had such a story, I already ordered Panasik, and they called me back and said: - "No, now, but let's pick something else ..." in general, I did not argue, canceled everything and bought In the M-video for the action, my Panasik 2511, I bought it expensively, albeit for a special offer .. and a month later, on Avita, I bought my mother the same one for 5 sput, though without documents. Well, nothing, my mother and I are happy
$ vetLana
Ninelle, they have no Panasov. They fool their heads and don't bring them. There is a Temka (I will not get a link from the phone), where this store is often remembered.
Ninelle
Quote: $ vetLana

Ninelle, they have no Panasov. They fool their heads and don't bring them. There is a Temka (I won't get a link from the phone), where this store is often remembered.
Well, the fact that they are fooling around, I understood, although they promised to bring it tomorrow, and then they began to snatch this Italian. As a result, I wanted Unold ...
mamusi
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, yes, the flour is not very good, I had 1 grade, besides, it crumpled - the humidity is high.
I will open the package for an hour, look ... which one, smell it, feel it ...

SVETLANA, no, not Predportovaya, but ... Rostov-on-Don ... our South ...
Date 08.12.17
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
Luda, inside is not wet, crumbly, slightly creamy in color, smells nice.
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
Wit
Ninelle, to calm down you can order. You do not risk anything, they will not bring it to you anyway. I went to Otzovik and read about this office.




Quote: Ninelle
As a result, I wanted Unold ...
You didn’t want Unold, but got sick buy Panasonic. What this crook can be congratulated on ...
mamusi
Quote: Wit
bread from Belonezh.
Beautiful Khlebushek, Vital! Well, I didn't have a friendship with her. Or rather, not with me, but with my Bread Maker.
I'm friends, I bake pancakes on it! Vkusnooo!
$ vetLana
mamusi, Rita, you see different manufacturers. Therefore, yours may be good.
Mandraik Ludmila
Ninelle, we will not agitate, here everyone decides for himself. But we are all fans of Panasonic here, I have this third stove, and I know what I gave the money for, the difference in bread is very noticeable, with the previous stoves
Ritochka, I had Predportovaya so you won't say anything, different flour, different result will be
mamusi
Tomorrow I will bake Darnitsky. I will test it.
Ninelle
So I'm also a fan, my then that, all fell. And the details are like a whole HP.




Quote: Wit

Ninelle, to calm down you can order. You do not risk anything, they will not bring it to you anyway. I went to the "Otzovik" and read about this office.



You didn’t want Unold, but got sick buy Panasonic. What this crook can be congratulated on ...
Vit, no, I love Panasy dearly, I have long thought about the second HP with a custom mode. And now I think again to take 2502, or 2512, the second one seems to be newer, but it costs more. I generally looked at the new one - 2522, but it's worth it like two wings from a rocket ... In short, I'm all upset, I can't choose anything, I walk around angry.
caprice23
Oh, and I also want to brag. Today I baked bread in curdled milk, Makfa flour and 50 grams of durum semolina. Now I shove this semolina everywhere. I like it with her. The bread turned out ah! With a delicate thin crust, I took it out, I thought I remember. Soft, delicate, gentle. A piece cut off in the hands bends as much
$ vetLana
Ninelle, I saw in another topic your sad story (((. I'm sorry. Since you already had Panasik, it's easier to choose.
Mandraik Ludmila
caprice23, we don't take anyone's word for it, let's take a photo Let's try!
Wit
I would take the older-2502, if it's new. But purely intuitively and obsessively sounding in the subcortex: "They do not seek good from good." Well, the toad is in business.
Mandraik Ludmila
I would have bought something older today
$ vetLana
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
I would have bought something older today
Appetites are growing. Luda, what do you like (which model and why)?
Ninelle
Quote: Wit

I would take the older-2502, if it's new. But purely intuitively and obsessively sounding in the subcortex: "They do not seek good from good." Well, the toad is here in business.
In my blonde mind 2502 = 2512, is it worth overpaying at least three thousand Russian money for one regime? Is 2512 much "newer" than 2502? And 2522, yes, cool, but only in Europe, delivery is at least two weeks, before NG will not have time. And it is expensive. Here.
Mandraik Ludmila
Sveta, I would now buy completely without dispensers and smaller progs, it's still more convenient for me in manual mode
$ vetLana
Mandraik Ludmila, Luda, but I still would choose 2511. Only her and rye, and low-yeast. IMHO
If it was the same without a dispenser, then I would choose it.
Mandraik Ludmila
Swatch, I can now make pure rye: dumplings + service mode + baking. Low-yeast is extremely rare for me, as it was not particularly impressed, but without French, there is definitely no way
Lelik_R
I have 2512, there is both rye and low-yeast too
$ vetLana
Buttercup, And I have low-yeast demand. I love the Frenchman too.
Ninelle
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

Swatch, I can now make pure rye: dumplings + service mode + baking. Low-yeast is extremely rare for me, as it was not particularly impressed, but without French, there is definitely no way
What is a service mode?
Mandraik Ludmila
Ninelle, this is just a proofing with maintaining the temperature, it is "called" by pressing a combination of buttons, somewhere we have described it here, I won't write from memory now, but my fingers themselves correctly lie on the buttons
Ninelle
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

Ninelle, this is just a proofing with maintaining the temperature, it is "called" by pressing a combination of buttons, somewhere we have described it here, I won't write from memory now, but my fingers themselves correctly lie on the buttons
Already found it, what models does it work on? Too lazy to go to the kitchen to try on your wounded Panas
Mandraik Ludmila
Ninelle, spoke in all models
Irinabr
Quote: Ninelle
I generally looked at the new one - 2522, but it's worth it like two wings from a rocket ... In short, I'm all upset, I can't choose anything, I walk around angry.
Yeah, I also looked at it, I liked it so much, and then ... I looked at the price and decided that my two bread makers are doing an excellent job with the tasks of kneading, kneading and proving. But I still bake in the oven. Both will break, then I'll buy
fffuntic
Quote: Ninelle

Already found it, what models does it work on? Too lazy to go to the kitchen to try on your wounded Panas

Throw your slippers at me, but I don't understand why to bother so much with a working stove with its body. I would have acted in Russian in Kulibin style))), that is, I would have got hold of glue, hot plastic))) and so on, etc. with the help of advice from our craftsmen in the relevant topic. And I would stick it up, stick it on, stick it up ... where there are cracks and use it further.
Well, what is a body? bullshit. This is not a camera or a board.

True, I already messed up once. The iron fell on the stove and chipped off a piece of plastic from behind. And I, without further ado and without asking advice, added pieces superglue!!!!
People!!! Do not act like me)))
This glue when heated for a long time and disgusting and stinks poisonously. And figs then you will pick it off.
That is, it is necessary to cook with the mind and advice of Sasha and Vita

Wit
At all, at all. And I would not overpay three thousand. It's just that during this time the workers' wages were raised. So the price was lifted. And I certainly wouldn't take it with yeastdisp
Ninelle
Choice is a terrible thing. I remember how at the end of the 80s my mother and I accidentally came across a mini-harvester on the market, or they gave them a salary, I don't remember. But we grabbed this harvester without considering the attachments, regardless of the color, not thinking about the modes, etc. ... and only at home we learned what it can do.
And now everything is happening exactly the opposite. And you can't make a choice.
$ vetLana
Ninelle, on our site there is a forum member, a cat. sells equipment (usually used). He's from Moscow. Maybe he should ask if there is a HP 12 for disassembly?
Ninelle
Apart from the sound that resembles the click of an AKM shutter, why is the dispenser bad? Didn't bother me at all.




Quote: $ vetLana

Ninelle, on our site there is a forum member, a cat. sells equipment (usually used). He's from Moscow. Maybe he should ask if there is a HP 12 for disassembly?
Names, passwords, appearances? I don't know him point-blank ...
Waist
Quote: Ninelle
And 2522, yes, cool, but only in Europe, delivery is at least two weeks, before NG will not have time. And it is expensive. Here.
I looked at something today about 2522, so they made a regime for Europe "Noodles" - for unleavened dough, otherwise there were "dumplings" only in the CIS, but in Europe there was no mode for unleavened dough, all yeast-heated. Well, they added gluten-free specific ones, not everyone needs them.

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