Miranda
gl @ murs, wow, how heavy!

Quote: gl @ murs
With the "bread" icon - the instructions recommend kneading any dense / tight dough. They were kneading the dough for the pie.
Where is the icon "Bread crossed out" - for chopping everything else. For example, they crushed sugar into powder, cream soup.
Wow, there were no icons visible on the video, did not know about them. Conveniently

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In various discussions on foreign forums of the first car (and there are reviews on Amazon), such a bug was discussed - after washing the bowl in the dishwasher, or simply if the outer bottom was soaked heavily, it gave an error. Then they dried it with a hairdryer (the place of contact of the bowl with the base) and worked again.

Not in the sense to scare, but to warn, so as not to be afraid, if suddenly. But in the second version, which you have, this bug was fixed (as stated). They generally consider the first version to be a test version - both in technical terms and in the market (demand, etc.). And the first one is now being sold not in the main (let's say) European countries, as they will, probably, and the second will start.
gl @ murs
Just got a closer look, they are sharpened a little differently.




Thank you, I am not at all a supporter of washing such things in the dishwasher, although the Instruction says that the Bowl can be washed.

So far, only plastic, lids, round discs are mine.
There is no point in washing knives, butterfly, stirrers in the dishwasher - they wash perfectly with the Bowl in the Rinse function.

Miranda
Quote: gl @ murs
they wash perfectly with the Bowl in the Rinse function
I would probably wash all the same
Such a character.
gl @ murs
I made custard dough and custard, I'm happy with the result.

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines




By the way, I ordered a fries knife, it will be in 3 weeks.
Waiting ...
zvezda
gl @ murs, it's very interesting to watch your mastery trials! I like everything so far, but the cream is generally gorgeous. Oh .. well, I must say something like that that I don't need him, don't need, don't need
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
Oh .. well, I have to say something like that that I don't need him, don't need, don't need
But I’m not telling myself And I’m planning a purchase, sorry I didn’t have time when the bar was 1 thousand, now I cannot do without duty, but it’s better to catch it this year, next year the ceiling is 200 euros.

gl @ murs, but please tell us about the process itself.
What buttons were pressed, is it easy to lower the temperature (after all, it is better to add eggs when the certified base has cooled to at least 60 degrees, and the wrong coat is higher).
marusacharli
I shouldn't have looked at you) I already want to. Just did not understand which knife is in the Kenwood kCook Multi CCL 401 WH? And can I buy a second knife for it?
anna_k
I wonder if there is a delivery from Amazon? The price tag there is very nice.
I-don't-need, I love cereals dearly)))
Miranda
Quote: marusyarli
Just did not understand which knife is in the Kenwood kCook Multi CCL 401 WH?
There is one knife, which is short (in the first version, without the crossed out roll icon, since there was no need for it, there was only one knife). Separately, I saw the second new knife on sale, but I don't know the article. They call him maxblade.

Quote: anna_k
The price tag there is very nice.
If 500 + -, then this is the first version.
marusacharli
The first version is just the Kenwood kCook Multi CCL 401 WH?
Miranda
marusacharli, Yes.
One of these days I'll make the first posts, I'll write the difference there. But in different countries there may be different numbers, this is such a Kenwood joke of tracking gray supplies, guarantees and other things for all their equipment.

The first is simply kCook Multi and is completely white, the second is kCook Multi Smart steel-colored and on the case there is also the word Smart and the wifa icon (according to which he communicates with the application of step-by-step recipes for a smartphone / tablet and scales)
marusacharli
You infected me with this machine)))))))))
Miranda
marusacharliI want her for two years, but somehow it doesn't work out
First the first, and now the second (but I would not refuse the first either, but there is a bug with a bowl, however, not everyone has it)
marusacharli
So I think about the first one. With her, at least you fit into the limit. And if a knife can be bribed, then great
al2
I looked at the smart on ebee in Germany about 46t, but there is no delivery, from Spain 79t with delivery. Maybe all the same, our Kenwood in Ukraine will import them.
With the first model, too, the limit is a little too close, but any can be brought from a trip by plane, as long as there are no restrictions there.
Miranda
Another difference - in the first there is no Russian language, in the second there is.
marusacharli
Quote: Miranda

Another difference - in the first there is no Russian language, in the second there is.
Well, it begins)))))))))))))) I almost bought it. For me, language is a decisive factor. Means only the second. I'll catch a good price.
gl @ murs
Quote: Miranda
Miranda

I kneaded the choux pastry and left it for 5 minutes with the lid open, stirred it a bit, touched that it was not hot and added eggs. I'm not a pro in the fun test, but once I did 6 I already have an understanding of what T. should be.






Management is simple. Temperature button, speed button, time button (everything is controlled by +/- buttons). There are programmed programs for soups, sauces, main courses, a double boiler ... - control of individual buttons. And a really big plus that there are other languages ​​(more than 20 it seems) - it would take a long time to translate and get used to it.
Miranda
Quote: gl @ murs
touched what was not hot and added eggs.
Doesn't it show the temperature?
In Cooking, the chef shows her and orientates myself.
Quote: gl @ murs
And a really big plus that there are other languages ​​(more than 20 it seems) - it would take a long time to translate and get used to it.
The first version needs to be clarified. Maybe there is an update. But the instruction was on the main European ones and in some review it said.

If anyone wants the first one, I would find users at least on YouTube and google translator (if an unknown language) asked the question - how many languages.
gl @ murs
Is it possible to update languages ​​in technology? Dont know..

Here's an application I can't wait to add languages, while only 1 is English. I think it's a matter of time.
So I'm not using the application yet.

It does not show the current one, and there is no such thing in Thermomix 31 either. I can set the temperature for cooking, but after the end of the cooking process and after standing a little, it does not show anything.
Maybe there is something like that, but I haven't found it yet.

Where is the sensor in Chef? Probably somewhere inside the bowl to show the real temperature of the mixture?

A couple of pages with functionality:

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Kenwood kCook Multi kitchen machines

Miranda
Quote: gl @ murs
Is it possible to update languages ​​in technology? Dont know..
Well, we are updating the functionality of smartphones or other equipment. But this is hardly provided for here, of course. There is no connection to the computer.

The sensor is under the bowl, it is not entirely accurate if everything is 6.7 liters. take, but to a certain limit it accurately determines, and choux pastry is not kilograms, if for yourself
Miranda
I started to make out the first posts on the first page.
I wrote about the differences between the older models and the younger model. The posts made are clickable links to them in the Content. I'll add the rest soon. Well, replenish as new information appears, recipes, etc.
kikwit
gl @ murs, please tell me, does this thing work without a smartphone?
Did you chop minced meat in it? I am very worried about this question)))
Miranda
kikwit, works without a smartphone, I know for sure! The smartphone is only a control option. Let's wait about the minced meat
gl @ murs
Works without a smartphone. Now I cook everything so completely.

Minced meat did not chop, if I will, then the maximum is chicken (without veins). From Thermomix's experience: I cut well, but the veins were twisted into a knife. As they write reviews on Thermimix, who often used it to grind various minced meat - the knife quickly became dull.
marlanca
gl @ murs,
Tell me the application only works with android? Something in iOS did not find it ...?
gl @ murs
The husband was engaged in the installation, there were nuances, I will not say such exactness - I do not know.

We have both on Android and on Ios.
marlanca
Quote: gl @ murs
and on Ios.
And you can find out what the application is called, what to look for in the App Store?
Prank
I'll sit with you and read :)
marlanca
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I will sit with you, read

Sit next to me, yeah ... ... it's more fun to read together ...
Svetlenki
Nuuu alleeee ... heavy artillery pulled up, I read it too
marlanca
I found an application for android, not for iOS ...




And I have no androids ...
Miranda
marlanca
Miranda,
Thanks for the link, I have found it before, but this application does not find it for me, writes: "not available in your country" ....

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And during the day I gave out the same thing ..., so I asked if there were any pitfalls, because gl @ murs, also wrote that my husband had some troubles with the installation ...
gl @ murs
my husband replied that in the phone you need to create an account with the region in which this application is available (Italy, Germany, England).

it's better to do it through knowledgeable people
marlanca
Quote: gl @ murs

my husband replied that in the phone you need to create an account with the region in which this application is available (Italy, Germany, England). it's better to do it through knowledgeable people
Wow .... ...., thanks, now I understand ... for me it's generally a dark forest ...
Miranda
gl @ murs, do you have an iPhone / iPad?
There you also need to enter the pin code from the car.

marlancamaybe on ayos more strictly
I saw a video on YouTube on how to install it, but now I can't find it. There are national playlists on the Kenwood Global channel, and I saw them in French (the link is also to the French version of the application, the very first was in French, maybe different local ones?).

Here is a French playlist (clumsy playlist links) https://www.youtube.com/p...4mJ_odPaCVL1RSqn-AEnW5yi2

There, with 54 videos (at the moment) and up are short video instructions, many with a lock icon (that is, look only at a direct link, it will not give out in the search). But I can't find the video where they installed it, how the PIN code was entered

Only as on / off in the smartphone I see other short video instructions for control

marlanca
Miranda,
Thank you Miranda, but for me this is a dark forest ... ..., I will live with Thermomix for now ...
Miranda
marlanca, for me not dark, but I have android
I found all the options for links to applications in English, let them already be in one place.

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The machine itself is for 20+ languages, because then they cannot be added and this was immediately laid down, but applications can change, languages ​​added. When Smart came out, it was only a French version, and I read an interview (another company developed the application and scales, this collaboration), they said that they were gradually localizing into different languages. And I think it depends on the official sales in a particular country.
marlanca
Miranda,
Ohhhh, wait ..... .... maybe everything will happen with us. sales ....
gl @ murs
Miranda iPhone,

yes, activation takes place with a pin code
al2
Yesterday in Giganti I held and twisted the first Kenwood kCook Multi model. To be honest, I didn't make much of an impression. For a multicooker with extended functionality 600 euros is expensive. Graters copy of Multi-cutter AT340. Thermomix, Kenwood didn't remind me, but I'm not a fan of this device either. Was 21 for a long time did not make friends, then poyuzala 31 and understood not mine. Now they are trying to produce multifunctional devices, it's probably great when one device replaces everything, but not mine.
On the officer. Kenwood kCook Multi website is not declared, but is sold, which means that the issue of activation is solved by legal means. These comrades are law-abiding.
marlanca
al2,
Well, to each his own, I use Thermomix almost every day ...
Miranda
Quote: al2
On the officer. Kenwood website kCook Multi not declared
Well, as not stated, all versions are declared.
On the international, all three versions, but if you change the language / country at the top, then in different ways - somewhere only small, somewhere first, somewhere smart or both, or nothing.
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Quote: al2
For a multicooker with extended functionality 600 euros is expensive. Graters copy of Multi-cutter AT340.
Yeah, the discs are the same. I also treat it as a multicooker with extended functionality. Expensive only But Thermomix (there was no, only sweat reviews and videos judging) never encouraged to buy it. If Kenwood multi-cooker for me is an extended multicooker, then Thermomix is ​​an extended blender. The bottom is too narrow for me.
al2
If you choose at the office. website kenwood finland there are no them, mb I did not find. And the choice of combines is not great.
gl @ murs
Girls, I don't know what else to write to you,
I continue to cook in Kenwood, practically everything. It's even easier for me to chop some small vegetable in it than on a grater)))) I ordered 2 graters for him as fries, thanks to Miranda for the navadka, I should come - I'm waiting.
There is no time to take pictures yet ...

So if you have any questions, write in a personal. I rarely go to Temka.
Miranda
gl @ murs. Just brag about how the time will be. It's very nice to read about a good gadget.

And what is the price of the discs?
And I also want to hear about knives - how are they chopped, chopped? Can you compare with a blender in terms of puree soup? Weren't you chopping raw vegetables with a knife?

Did you make baked goods? Or something like changing the nozzle stick to a flat plug?
gl @ murs
The price of the discs is about 6.5 dollars. for 1.
The knives are chopped normally, the meat is not chopped. Only vegetables, puree soup, sah. I did powder.
Compared to Thermomix, it is exactly the same, only it works quieter and does not jump.

I have not installed a flat plug yet.
lala2
I understood correctly, Kenwood kCook has a small power of 150 watts, and DeLonghi BabyMeal KCP815.BL has 800 watts, so the second blender is more powerful? Or is it the same?
anna_k
This is a different class of devices.
Delongy is weak with blunt knives, the volume of the bowl is 1.5 liters. The cache has 4.5 liters, the knives are sharp, powerful functionality.

As for the blender, I would look at the number of revolutions.
For example, my krups prep & cook has up to 12,000 rpm, the Sekrett has up to 10,000 rpm, etc.

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