Kenwood Kitchen Machines

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, already done..

[shlyk_81]

shlyk_81, I apologize, my last post was yours about the problem, while I was answering, other posts appeared.



Olya, I have problems with the Internet. It's good that everything turned out without service.

Good afternoon.
I ask for advice in choosing an assistant.
KM331 800W - 190 euros (new, but most likely without warranty)
Chef Classic KM336 800W - 245 euros
Kenwood Kvl4100S 1200 w - 279 euros
Kenwood KM631 900 W - 248 euros
KMX50 kMix 500 W (direct drive) - 252 euros
KMX750 1000 W - 270 euros.
I lean towards kMix myself, I don't know which one is better. But Kvl4100 also tempts. Big for my needs, but great - not small, you can survive. An additional plus is that there is a plastic bowl for it for only 7-13 euros (which is not the case for kMix, alas). It's embarrassing that the huge almost 7-liter bucket has no handles.
A question for the owners of a large bowl without handles. How convenient is it to use?
Or still spit on extra. bowl and buy kMix?
I must say right away that additional buns are not of interest from the word at all. Maybe a silicone nozzle and a prompter, but this is available for all models.
The mixer is needed exclusively as a mixer. The family is small, will not be used too often. We are planning a pastry shop, but I would also like to knead the pizza dough. The food processor does an excellent job with dumplings and pasta dough ("dough in 21 seconds").

[Marfuta]

Marfuta, I would take with a larger bowl and more power. In a small one, more than 6 eggs are not beaten and more than 1 kg of meat is not kneaded. When I bought I took smaller and cheaper ones. Now I am very sorry. I just didn't understand at all.

In a small one, more than 6 eggs are not beaten and more than 1 kg of meat is not kneaded.

Yes, I don't need more than 6 eggs. And we don't make minced meat more than a kilogram, there is no need.
But that's not the problem. I say the same - a larger bowl, as well as a higher power, will not hurt, no doubt. The only thing that bothers me about the 4100 is the lack of a handle on the bowl. That is why I ask the owners of such bowls whether it is convenient to use them. In the process of work, after all, often hands can be a little dirty: in flour, in fatty cream, in sweet proteins. In the minced meat, finally. Will your hands slide over the smooth bowl with greasy / sticky palms?
Kmix has a wonderful vertical handle. And the volume of 5 liters is more than that of small Kenwoods, and less than that of large ones. At first glance, quite a decent amount. There is also enough power.
I can't decide which is more important: the convenience of using a bowl with a handle or the ability to buy an additional plastic bowl for a penny. Because stainless steel and especially glass are much more expensive.

[Marfuta]

Marfuta, take it with a large bowl! It is not as huge as it seems! But the dough for Easter cakes is a song! Marshmallow, big biscuit. And creams - Wet meringue (Swiss meringue), Custard protein. And even just yeast dough - we remove the hook, lower our head with protection and leave it to proof - there is room to grow. And the second bowl - oh, how needed! In one dough, in the other - cream. Or in one yeast dough in proofing, in the other - to beat the minced meat at this time, etc. And in relation without handles - you are in the kitchen, there is always a second to rinse your hands! That's how much I used Bosch (without pens), in general there were no problems with this.

[Marfuta]

That is why I ask the owners of such bowls whether it is convenient to use them.

Marfuta, I have a Premier Major 770, 1200W, a large bowl without handles, I have it for three years. A bowl without handles is convenient for me, there was no such case that I thought about handles. I use KM often, almost every day - dough, confectionery, minced meat, food processor, ice cream and so on.

Thanks to everyone who answered! The circle narrowed down to Kvl4100S and one of the Kmix. By the way, someone in the know, is there a difference between the KMX50 kMix 500 W (direct drive) and the KMX750 1000 W (apparently variable)?

[Marfuta]

MarfutaI think the KMX750 has a better kneading hook than the KMX50 kMix. Pay attention to this.

[Marfuta]

MarfutaI think the KMX750 has a better kneading hook than the KMX50 kMix. Pay attention to this.

Valuable information, thanks!

[Marfuta]

Marfuta, I have 4100, the bowl is not glossy and slippery, but matte and does not slip, the lack of handles never bothered.

Hello, dear forum users! I have been reading your forum for a long time, I really like it here.
But then I decided to buy KM Kenwood 5100B with a glass bowl (since it seemed to me that metal bowls smell like metal - I'm allergic and maybe that's why I feel it right away). I smelled several bowls and even the taste of iron appeared in my mouth. So I thought it would be better with glass. But unfortunately, Kenwood does not produce large-volume glass bowls, although a large bowl is undoubtedly better. More, not less. Brains are boiling, but I have not found an answer for myself. The non-magician consultants from Kenwood assure that everything that is written in the instructions is true.
Girls, tell me, please, in KM Kenwood 5100B glass bowl 4.6 liters. In the instructions for KM they write that you can beat 12 eggs at once. But I am tormented by doubts (today I went to the store and looked at the cup), it seemed to me less than they say, and now everything is in doubt, and the decision must be made today. And the dough, is it really possible to pour 1.3 kg of flour + water, yeast = knead yeast dough on bread. Will it pull? And how many eggs really fit in the bowl and dough?

[Nata ***]

Nata ***, 4.6 places 6 eggs and no more than 800 grams of flour

Gayane, thanks for answering. That is, even 9-10 eggs is already a lot for this bowl?

even 9-10 eggs is already a lot for this bowl?

Lot!! I have 1 protein marshmallow in a large bowl - the bowl is full !!

[Nata ***]

And the dough, is it really possible to pour 1.3 kg of flour + water, yeast = knead yeast dough on bread. Will it pull? And how many eggs really fit in the bowl and dough?

Nata *** , in a bowl of 4.6 liters, you can easily knead 2.18 kg of steep yeast dough (bread), this is 1.36 kg of flour. Our members of the forum calmly knead Myasoedovsky cake for 1 kg of flour, and the dough turns out to be 2.5 kg.

[Nata ***]

Nata ***, 4.6 places 6 eggs and no more than 800 grams of flour

When I beat 6 whole eggs on a biscuit, 2/3 of a large bowl turns out, from a small one they will begin to migrate quickly ...

Hello! Thanks to everyone who responded and answered me.
Today I went shopping again, looked at large bowls (metal), and again in frustration - I smell iron. Now I don’t know what to do. Tomorrow they should bring the order, my husband says take it with a glass bowl now, maybe this volume will be enough. I have never been in such a doubt before buying.

[Nata ***]

Nata ***, I am an asthmatic with a heightened "scent", doctors do not be indignant, I myself call it that, I also feel all the smells and bowls before buying, too, but after the first wash he left! How do you prepare food at home? And what do you eat ?? I will never believe that you do not use a single stainless steel! Even grate, cut and then only stainless steel.! You just wind yourself up a little ... or just want a glass

[zvezda]

zvezdaBelieve me, I don't wind myself up. But after spending 9 days in intensive care with anaphylactic shock. on the device claim. breath - I don't want to get there anymore. Sorry if I answered sharply.

[Nata ***]

Nata ***,

Sorry if I answered sharply

Yes, everything is fine, I myself lay in a coma for 10 days .. and I mean that you use stainless steel in the house anyway, I just don't know how a house can be without it ... appliances, graters, pots, extractor hoods, taps, appliances, stoves, PMM, a tank in the washing. car, and transport all handrails, in the car ,,, well, I do not believe that you have never touched anything with your hands and do not go out into the street !! Even the shelves in stores ...
Take glass and do not suffer ..

[Nata ***]

Nata ***, even if the bowl is made of glass, but the hook, whisk, etc. are made of stainless steel! And the cheaper models from silumin.

Good day!
I got my car yesterday and it seems there is a problem with it. But in order:
- Outwardly I like the way the car looks - a combination of white and blue;
- the noise seems not so strong (but if only at maximum), of course in the next room, you can still hear it, bearable;
- nozzles are simply inserted (they have a gray coating);
- the choice of speeds is smooth;
- the bowl is glass, but the volume - exactly 3 liters of 300 ml of water fit, not even four, and the volume of the bowl is declared 4.6. You really can't do much (now I think that for me a one-time volume will be small). The husband is already angry and says - it was necessary to think before.
- now the problem itself - like yesterday, upon acceptance, I checked everything (it seemed to me so), but when, after payment, I was left alone with the car, I noticed that the plastic cover, which is from the bottom of the head, moves away from one edge from the side where the ventilation holes do not fit tightly, staggers, from the side of the gearshift regulator pressed tightly and tightly.
Now I think this is an assembly defect and can tighten the screws, but they seem to be some kind of special - like hexagons and they probably need a special screwdriver.
Girls, what to do in this situation, now felt sorry for the money spent 45t. R. The husband yells that he had to buy a cheap one, they say there is no difference in quality. I admit that this is a well-known company, time-tested. In general, I made myself a frustration, there is no mood, in the company store, where I ordered it, they offer it to the service (like it was necessary to see it before transferring the money).
I can't upload a photo to a message, please tell me how to do this?
Thank you.
It prevents beginners from uploading a photo to a message, if it's not difficult to look at my gallery.

Did you manage to use it after the purchase or not?

[belena74]

belena74, No, I haven't loaded the products, I haven't even washed it before the first use, I just measured how much of the bowl and how much water it fits, and checked how the speed switch works, tried on the nozzles and that's it.

It is necessary to take it to the store, you have two good reasons: the product does not meet the declared characteristics of 3.3 liters versus 4.6, well, the gap, which should not be ... Yes, the delivery procedure is unlikely to be pleasant, but bear with it and spend some time. But the car is clearly not yours, so take your husband, endure his muttering, but together to the store and take it!)

[belena74]

belena74,
Thank you for your answer, but my husband is now rested, in general, a scandal, is no longer happy that she contacted this machine. It is difficult for me to do all this myself, because I cannot go out on the street alone, only accompanied. I phoned one SC recommended on the magician's website and sent a photo - I'm waiting, they don't call back. And about the cup in the magician, they didn’t tell me that it was a European size of 4.6, and how much my measuring cups fit is wrong. They claim that the manufacturer has stated and knows best what volume this bowl is.
I have now decided that I will try again to call the mag-n and if it turns out to exchange something good, but not - then so be it. I cannot be absolutely nervous, but I feel that it is difficult to return the goods. But I first and last time contacted an internet magician. I don’t know what to do next.
Here, I just clearly understand that they take money willingly, but no one wants to solve problems.

No new thing should be sent to the service center after purchase, this is absurd. But it is up to you, of course, where you will leave more nerves by handing it over (and this is absolutely real, yes, the seller will tell you by phone a bunch of reasons why he will not take km, but having arrived to him, he cannot refuse you) or every day using a machine you don't like ...

You need to take it to the store, you have two good reasons

By law, the buyer has the right to hand over the goods within 14 days without giving any reason, as long as the packaging is all intact. Read the consumer law, calm down and take the savvy husband to the store with your husband. You can also call the consumer protection organization, they will explain everything to you. Good luck.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, Natalia, in Russia you cannot just return the goods included in the List ..., in which clause 11 - "Technically complex household goods, for which warranty periods are set."
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Return without problems will work if the marriage. And if you just didn't like the device, then no. Well, or if the characteristics differ from those stated, you can try.
But here, in the subject, the girls used to write that 4.6 liters is the maximum volume flush with the edges, and the worker is about 2.5 liters.

I would also talk to the waiters!

and talked to the waiters

What waiters?))

Yes, at least with what !!))) Stupid computer, sometimes this is sent !!!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, for purchases in online stores, like, slightly different rules or am I mistaken?

Here are the rules for selling remotely: 🔗

Ops, I am not aware of the specifics of distance selling in such details (and I have no experience of mine, I never returned anything "just like that").
Yes, judging by the Rules ... there is at least 7 days for a return, without mentioning this List.
What is good about the collective mind!))

Girls, as far as I know, sellers like to say that selling in an online store, in the case of home delivery by courier service, is not a distance sale, since the buyer had the opportunity to inspect the goods and refuse on the spot upon delivery, but if it was sent by mail, then yes ...

I clarified that within 7 days there is a return of goods of any complexity, purchased through the online store, without explaining the reasons for the return ...

Nata, how are you doing with your typewriter?

Within 7 days, goods of any complexity purchased through the online store are returned without explaining the reasons for the return ...

On the cookie chef website in the section of the terms of sale, which I think are drawn up on the general provisions of the law, you can read more about this.

A quote from the site, I think we can all come in handy) ...

6.1.1. The Client has the right to refuse the ordered Goods at any time before receiving it, and after receiving the Goods - within 7 days, not counting the day of purchase. The return of the Goods of good quality is possible if its presentation, packaging, consumer properties, as well as a document confirming the fact and conditions of purchase of the specified Goods are preserved.

[belena74, Elena]

belena74, Elena, You are absolutely right! When buying in an online store within 7 days, you can even return a product that is “non-returnable” (unless, of course, it was in use). Even if it is a technically complex product, a personal hygiene item (for example, an electric toothbrush) or underwear in general.
But, of course, you will have to independently remind the seller about Article 26.1 of the "Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights", which is called: "Remote way of selling goods", since the sellers themselves prefer not to know about this law))
And you can return it regardless of where you received the goods, by mail, by courier or at the point of issue. And the seller is obliged to return the money within 10 days. True, you have to pay the cost of delivery (if it was paid), but, of course, only one delivery, and even if the courier arrives at your home to pick up the goods, you don't have to pay him anything the second time!

Hello girls!) I haven't been to the forum for a hundred years, it used to be my second home) Then I moved away from cooking, or rather, I left the decree and started to cook less and eat))) Now I was shot in the head “I want a harvester!”. Once a year I bake something, but I instructed the technicians ((
Now in Belgium and looked after these cars
KCC9060S (1500W) - 1039 €
KVL8320S (1700W) -629,90 €
KVL6320S (1400W) -489 €
I would be very grateful for the advice)

KCC9060S (1500W) - 1039 €

I'm for this one. I have 9040. I like it very much. And the 9060 will "block" almost all operations in the kitchen. And in itself - KrasAVETS!

I'm for this one. I have 9040. I like it very much. And the 9060 will "block" almost all operations in the kitchen. And in itself - KrasAVETS!

Thank you))) I also look at him in love)) I don’t know why, but since it’s more expensive then we must take it (the logic is iron
I just don't understand its function with heating? Does he cook or is it just for a very advanced level of cooks?)

Maybe you also have colored ones there? Then waabsche!

As for the rest, I can’t explain anything, the owners will tell you, but I’m very happy that I immediately bought a 9040. Induction helps a lot, biscuits, marshmallows, custard, marshmallow, bread rolls knead and flatten. Pure pleasure!

Maybe you also have colored ones there? Then vaabsche!

As for the rest, I can’t explain anything, the owners will tell you, but I’m very happy that I immediately bought a 9040. Induction helps a lot, biscuits, marshmallows, custard, marshmallow, bread rolls knead and flatten. Pure pleasure!

Only silver Kitchen two colors only ... but they are also colored?)
Did you find the heating function useful? I haven’t cooked for so long that I’m afraid to even ask a ridiculous question The children have grown a little, I am for proper nutrition without starchy foods ... but to be honest, I took such nostalgia for the smell of baking in the house, as before))

He cooks or is it for a very advanced level of cookery just

No, anyone can cook! Now there are a lot of things on Instagram and on sites ..

Somewhere here in Temko girls posted photos of colored Kenwoods. Good !!! Now I can't find it right away.
I don't cook very much, but I used heating in custards, pastilles, and made eggplant caviar. I let the bread stand right away in a bowl with a slight heating. Yes, a lot of things ...
Read the topics. Over time, I understand that almost any recipe can be realized with this machine. And healthy eating too. But of course I use it more for starchy foods and sweets.

To me, please, to you. I do not like politeses on the forums.

I just don't understand its function with heating? Does he cook or is it just for a very advanced level of cooks?)

I missed the question.
Well, the more I master this function, the more I like it. From what I did not mention: I also scalded chicken sausages in a bowl at a temperature of 80 degrees. And she made the ham in a ham maker. It fits perfectly into a 6.7L bowl.
If there is no tension in money, then I would not refuse new opportunities.

Somewhere here in Temko girls posted photos of colored Kenwoods. Good !!! Now I can't find it right away.
I don't cook a lot, but I used heating in custards, pastilles, and made eggplant caviar. I let the bread stand right away in a bowl with a slight heating. Yes, a lot of things ...
Read the topics. Over time, I understand that almost any recipe can be realized with this machine. And healthy eating too. But of course I use it more for starchy foods and sweets.

To me, please, to you. I do not like politeses on the forums.


I missed the question.
Well, the more I master this function, the more I like it. From what I did not mention: I also scalded chicken sausages in a bowl at a temperature of 80 degrees. And she made the ham in a ham maker. It fits perfectly into a 6.7L bowl.
If there is no tension in money, then I would not refuse new opportunities.

Thank you sincerely!))) Already I urgently need to buy and the shops are closed, a holiday)) I saw the box, mother dear, how to fit it into the car and already all filled)) My husband laughs at me, says that they say you don't cook anything, only in the Cafe we eat)) It's just the second husband and he doesn't know how I was once perverted.Children refuse to confirm (try so hard for them at night) Tomorrow I will whimper in the store, revealingly))

Paul! As always, I am very glad to see you! I still hope that you will have a look at my typewriter.

Thank you!
Maybe. But now there is a lot of things and there is no time for cars. )))

maybe

Good evening! It's already joyful !! I'll wait!!