Kenwood Kitchen Machines

[Katerok87]

Katerok87, Oh .. how you confused me
023-will always be a fact! It is excellent, needed and there is someone to give it to (though they don’t take it .. even Bosch MUM 5 .. they don’t want to)
9060 is simply necessary because of the induction and auth. programs! I like them VERY
If induction is not very important - take 023, it seems to be 070 now! But I would recommend 9060!

[Katerok87]

If induction is not very important - take 023, it seems to be 070 now! But I would recommend 9060!

Katerok87, KM 020 (023) aka 060 (063) are now out of production. They were replaced by KM Kenwood KVL 8470 S Chef XL Titanium and KM Kenwood KVL 8320 S Chef XL Titanium (the differences between these KMs are in the configuration).
New models: 200 W more power; a sufleika was added to the complete set of nozzles for the planetary socket, and the hook - a new spiral; bowl with a measuring scale; the minimum speed was replenished with one more; the head lifting lever has moved to the "back"; on the convenient start to close the nests (plugs with magnets); illumination of the bowl and the wheel of speeds (it is the button on and off); And it is very important, in my opinion, that on machines 020 (023), 060 (063), attachments for a low-speed socket are now available only with an adapter, native ATs are not visible on sale. Good luck and great choice!

[zvezda]

zvezda,Peter Push, thanks for the detailed, detailed answer!

While deciding on the choice, the head is spinning

Here is a video comparing 096 and 9060 in Russian

Here is a video comparing 096 and 9060

We've already discussed it a couple of times.
Unfortunately, there are no answers to all the questions. But so far this is almost the most normal video of all that is in Russian. Because there is an attempt to compare and do not say nonsense, such as whipping 12 eggs. The rest is solid boring unpacking - see the hook, see the whisk, and fantasies in the comments from ignorance of the machine and instructions.

native AT on sale is not visible

Yes, it seems, we still have a lot of them
Now I'll take a closer look ... I looked at everything completely!
And 060 is sold in the empire at a humane price!

[zvezda]

zvezda, AT which on a high-speed, chopper or vegetable cutter, or even a soufleika AT - they are freely available. But the girls searched for the AT mill, and did not find it.

That is, low-speed AT attachments start to disappear, it's true. But it is in Russia, abroad in access. Perhaps the Russian branch simply no longer buys lots, considering that there will be enough leftovers, everyone from whom the old mount has already been bought, and now a new nest. And they don't want dead cargo in the warehouse. Abroad, however, it is arranged differently because of the single economic zone - 1 piece is also possible. under the order from Italy, say, to Germany. And ours have to register the party.

That is, buying an old car with the thought of slowly bribing the attachments in a year and a half or two is now bad advice. Well, or advice with a reservation. Although back in August it was normal advice.

[Miranda]

Miranda, I looked three times ... on the LOW SPEED socket, almost all the attachments are! The mill too !! I watched Peter and Moscow .. did not look further

[zvezda]

zvezda, As far as I understand, Darkusha, looked everywhere. In reality, I did not find the mill. I wrote in the topic of the attachments. I also just looked - the price is worth it and is either not available, or on order. Where did you see the mill?

here .....
🔗
and somewhere else I saw
there is a whisk and a mill (really expensive), but there is ..
🔗

[zvezda]

zvezda, well, my dear friend, did you click on the Buy button?

kenwoodworld is an information site in many languages. Your link to the Russian version. They don't sell anything, but only inform about the assortment of the location and the recommended price (each country has its own assortment and the price is different too).It says so - recommended.

When you click on Buy, it transfers to the one with the inscription "Out of production".

zvezda, and on the second link (you then inserted it, I did not see) the price-shock. It will be cheaper abroad with the most expensive delivery order. Those. also not an option

Not, however, low-speed ATs are rapidly disappearing in our stores. It is sad. And some others disappear. I didn't have time to buy a sieve, when it was full everywhere, I put everything aside. Cars with an old mount can be advised with such a caveat. Unfortunately.

Of course I agree! : girl_dance: But who will have time .. well done! So 096 is now also in question? Although there is an adapter! Or maybe you can order from the girls from Ukraine? They have almost everything there

[zvezda]

zvezda, not there either
Abroad will help us.

If you can take it out of Spain, I'll bring it back in the summer! Just order it there

[zvezda]

Yes, it seems, we still have a lot of them
Now I'll take a closer look ... I looked at everything completely!
And 060 is sold in the empire at a humane price!

zvezda, and in my country, the attachments for the low-speed AT socket disappeared from sale within a month after the release of new machines, now everyone sells only KACH, although in fairness I note that there are still attachments for cutting pasta, but here you first need to buy a dough roller. And 060 is nowhere to be found, and not only them, but all the previous ones, only new ones. With an adapter you can, but you don't even want to.

Good morning! So I became the happy owner of 9060 And of course, questions arose. I failed to read the whole topic, but I mastered a lot. I didn't find it in the instructions, and I didn't see it in the subject - when the high-speed socket is working, the planetary one is also spinning, is this the norm? Will it be the same with low speed? The question is probably stupid and has already been, but let me ask it again

I didn't find it in the instructions, and I didn't see it in the subject - when the high-speed socket is working, the planetary one is also spinning, is this the norm? Will it be the same with low speed? The question is probably stupid and has already been, but let me ask it again

of course....!!!

I didn't find it in the instructions, and I didn't see it in the subject - when the high-speed socket is working, the planetary one is also spinning, is this the norm?

Yes, all jacks are spinning at the same time. BUT! For example, if you have nothing on a high-speed jack and the cover is removed, none of the jacks will work until you close it. In this case, the corresponding inscription appears on the display.

Does anyone know where to order a shovel similar or similar to the one that comes with the car?
Otherwise, on the market and even on Ali, all the paddles with a fairly thick edge, because the silicone
And the firmly flexible edge, which is very convenient to collect proteins, soft dough from the sides of the bowl

Does anyone know where to order a shovel similar or similar to the one that comes with the car?

I was interested, but for a long time. It looks like Kenwood's only in Europe. I really want a spare

[Miranda]

Miranda, and where can you see?

Katerok87, in the Internet
Open the general Kenwood site, select a country and see - 🔗 There are in France, Italy, Portugal, the Czech Republic has recently appeared, somewhere else. In Germany, no. I hope it will appear here or in Ukraine. You can also look at YouTube, there are many reviews, but not in Russian, you can understand it with a google translator.

[LydiaVera]

What are you all active members of the forum, so helped me. Thank you all very much!
And now more on the quotes:

I gave the first Apple Peeler 3in1 izidri Apple Cutter to my mother, now I have Gef, but I don't think it's worth overpaying, and the next time I would buy it for Ali.
This device is just awesome !!! And I think that because of a pot of potatoes, you should not bother with electronic, well, if only you feed a company of soldiers) This manual cutting is for you both for apples and potatoes

Uh-huh, I realized, I saw something like that, but did not pay attention, now I’ll draw it. Perhaps I even redirected my intentions from the Kenwood potato peeler to this

It seems like an ad from Moscow.
If I find a link, I will throw it off.Look yourself, there will be faster.
Now I rummaged, I can't find it. About a week ago I definitely saw it. Maybe you bought it?

I looked across Russia, but did not see it. Well, that means not my thing.

LydiaVera, this ad has been blocked. I saw it too, shoved it into my favorites, and now there is an inscription about blocking the ad.

Therefore, I probably did not see

Skazi, and what does this mean?

Usually they block when the same ad is posted several times. Maybe they thought that they would sell faster if they throw from two accounts, but in the end they got banned

I disagree! I use it often and PERSONALLY I'm happy! Of course, I don’t buy supercoat potatoes, but on the other, it does it perfectly! To save money .. of course it's more economical with your hands, but after the lchmstka, starch remains at the bottom in the nozzle: girl_dance: I think that many will like it!

I'm allergic to starch, because of it I can't clean. Eh, okay, maybe someday I'll get

In Germany, no. I hope there will be a

Yesterday I looked. In Germany there are both on the off site and on Amazon. And in Kiev in general for a wonderful price on the spare parts website 🔗

[VRad]

VRadwhat do you mean? What is there in Germany, etc.?

We are about

automatic saucepan with stirrer inside from Kenwood

And she's not at the office. the site of Germany, and on the Amazon from Italy is very expensive. And even more so it is not "in Kiev at a wonderful price on the site of spare parts."

VRad, what do you mean? What is there in Germany, etc.?

I apologize. I understand that it was about spatula. No? Then twice, three times I apologize

Dear members of the forum, I hasten to thank everyone for their help! I joined your ranks, becoming the owner of the coveted induction. And now, tenderly falling in love with my Kesha at first sight, I try to do everything with his participation. This gives me real pleasure and makes my lot easier. Therefore, I will say to all those choosing and doubting: TAKE! And don't hesitate.
I would give a Nobel Prize to all inventors of household appliances. If you count how much time automatic washing machines, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners and our beloved Kesha have freed up for humanity, the benefit will definitely be greater than some Nobelians, you must agree.

[Natalia]

Natalia, Congratulations on your purchase! And I am very glad to your mood!
Join us! Ask .. share recipes and experiments
Girls! I got a problem .. squirrels crammed into the gap between the bottom of the head (where the attachments are inserted) and the head itself ?? Maybe it's just me there such a gap

And I want to brag, but I can only to you, because my friends do not understand at all what is the use of Kesha I managed to cook condensed milk, belonese (almost in a classic version), in general, what I did not cook before, because I was too lazy to stand interfere. And now it's just a fairy tale! The cocktails turned out well too. And mashed potatoes with a minimum of costs But when I was cooking on steam, a lot of water leaked between the bowl and the main unit, I even had to put a cloth between them, is this a normal mode or did I do something wrong?

[balabolka]

balabolka, I, too, as a recent happy owner of COOKING CHEF KCC9040S, can not get enough of it. People around me don't really share my enthusiasm, but okay.
Didn't do so much yet, biscuits, cream, bread. Everything is gorgeous. Yes, mashed potatoes are luxurious!
I read topics as much as possible, but there are minor questions. Maybe old-timers will answer "dummies' questions" to me faster than I dig up on the forum.
I learned to set the time (5, 10, etc. minutes), then I turn on mixing or whipping, the timer went back and the machine stops when it reaches zero.
How to start a countdown timer? Well, that is, let time go by, and I'll watch myself when to stop.

When kneading bread with a hook, the machine perceptibly moves on the table, although with the other attachments (flexi, whisk), even at high speeds (5.6) it stands rooted to the spot.

I bought a car, an iron guarantee for 5 years for off. site received.Are there any other mandatory actions for users?

[zvezda]

I would give a Nobel Prize to all inventors of household appliances. If you count how much time automatic washing machines, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners and our beloved Kesha have freed up for humanity, the benefit will definitely be greater than some Nobelians, you must agree.

+++!

I have a problem .. are proteins crammed into the gap between the bottom of the head (where the attachments are inserted) and the head itself ?? Maybe it's just me there such a gap

zvezda, it happens if the proteins are from C0 eggs, and there are 6 of them ...

When kneading bread with a hook, the machine perceptibly moves on the table, although with the other attachments (flexi, whisk), even at high speeds (5.6) it stands rooted to the spot.

venera19, on bread dough should not "walk" on the table, only the head moves. The reasons, in my opinion, are steep dough (50-54% humidity) and a lot of it (more than 1.5 kg of total weight), the table surface is uneven.

Congratulations to all forum users who recently bought KM Kenwood

When kneading bread with a hook, the machine perceptibly moves on the table, although with the other attachments (flexi, whisk), even at high speeds (5.6) it stands rooted to the spot.

And at what speed was the bread dough kneaded?

Congratulations to all forum users who recently bought KM Kenwood

Thank you. This is space!
Do you know about the timer?

And at what speed was the bread dough kneaded?

Well, when mixing all the components, then on the 1st, and everything is fine.
Then 15-20 minutes rest, the kneading itself is 3-4, 5-7 minutes. You have to stand to hold.
The dough is not tight at all.

Dough:
400 g of bread flour
100 g seeded rye flour
150 g sourdough with a moisture content of 133%
300g. water
4 g (1 tsp) yeast *
10 g salt

the batch itself is 3-4, minutes 5-7

The speed is high. I do premixing at min, kneading by 1, maximum by 2 (this is if the humidity is + -80%)

Do you know about the timer?

Direct counting is possible ONLY if heating is on. It turns on automatically. But when heating, if necessary, you can set the countdown by setting the time yourself.
Only countdown is possible without heating.

[venera19]

Well, when mixing all the components, then on the 1st, and everything is fine.
Then 15-20 minutes rest, the kneading itself is 3-4, 5-7 minutes. You have to stand to hold.
The dough is not tight at all.

venera19, before the pause, the minimum speed is enough and 5 minutes, the main batch is speed 1 for ordinary bread dough, for dumplings, the minimum is enough, for Italian (French) bread - speed 2. Look again at the recommendations in the instructions. I wish you success!

The speed is high. I do premixing at min, kneading by 1, maximum by 2 (this is if the humidity is + -80%)

Thanks for the advice, I'll try to reduce the speed. And how much about the time of the main batch?
Do you distribute it in a bowl or transfer it to another bowl?

Direct counting is possible ONLY if heating is on. It turns on automatically. But when heating, if necessary, you can set the countdown by setting the time yourself.
Only countdown is possible without heating.

Well, thank you! Here it is! I was the first to try to make the sauce with heating and I got a direct reading.
And then there was bread and biscuits, and no matter how hard I struggled, I could not find a direct reading!

before the pause, the minimum speed is enough and 5 minutes, the main batch is speed 1 for ordinary bread dough, for dumplings, the minimum is enough, for Italian (French) bread - 2 speed. Look again at the recommendations in the instructions. I wish you success!

Thanks for the advice.
I read, read ... From my own experience I know that you begin to understand the instructions perfectly already when you "enter" a little into all the processes.

And how much about the time of the main batch?

About 8-10 minutes, depending on the moisture content of the dough.

Do you distribute it in a bowl or transfer it to another bowl?

I transfer it to a container, since then I put it in the refrigerator for fermentation for 12-24 hours, when it works out. I just like long-proofed bread more, so I mostly bake it.
In a bowl, I brewed it once, when last year I baked cake according to this recipe Easter cake "Dream" + Gelatin Glaze, very much.

By the way, about detuning. Maybe it's offtopic. I found out that my oven with a light bulb has a temperature of 40 *, probably because there are two bulbs. Isn't that much for a test?

I transfer it to a container, since then I put it in the refrigerator for fermentation for 12-24 hours, when it works out. I just like long-proofed bread more, so I mostly bake it.

I agree that long-proofed bread is very tasty. As a working hostess, I have a different schedule. Now, if you start the main batch (excluding starter cultures or dough) right after work, at about 17:30, then just a heated proofer is very convenient to fit in at least until midnight.

In a bowl, I brewed it once, when last year I baked a cake according to this recipe Easter cake "Dream"

ABOUT! I was the first to try it on the car! It turned out great and the kneading and proofing and the end result is amazing.

By the way, about detuning. Maybe it's offtopic. I found out that my oven with a light bulb has a temperature of 40 *, probably because there are two bulbs. Isn't that much for a test?

I also discovered these same 40 *. I think that's a bit too much. Therefore, I opened the oven so that no more than 30-32 *

[venera19]

And how much about the time of the main batch?
Do you distribute it in a bowl or transfer it to another bowl?

venera19, in time there can be a significant scatter, from 10 to 20 minutes, influencing factors: the presence of a pause (20 - 30 minutes) before the main batch; flour; the presence of sourdough; dough moisture ....
We must observe ... By kneading, we want to develop well the gluten in the dough. Now, when your dough stops smearing on the bottom of the bowl, but gathers into a lump near the hook, cleaning the bowl like an eraser and becomes smooth and shiny, we have achieved what we wanted. I proof the dough in a bowl with a lid and a closed hatch. I wish you success!

I found out that my temperature in the oven with a light bulb is 40 *

In general, it warms up to 55 * with 2 bulbs, so I distribute only cakes with the door ajar. Everything else is on the table, in my kitchen + -28 *

[Valeria]

By the way, about detuning. Maybe it's offtopic. I found out that my oven with a light bulb has a temperature of 40 *, probably because there are two bulbs. Isn't that much for a test?

Valeria, I have an oven with steam when proving the dough. On this program is the indicated t. 40gr. I set a timer for 30-40 minutes, depending on the size of the test, and then just turn it off for a while. The heat inertia persists for a long time. Then you can turn it on again. When I am lazy with steam, I do the same with a light bulb.

Help!!!



In the process of kneading the dough, the pins on the hook came out of the grooves, I did not immediately notice it, only when I began to remove the hook, and it does not go, it got stuck, I can not pull it out, nor unscrew it, it starts spinning in a circle. What can be done? Was anyone like that?

[Margitte]

Margitte, can you shake it a little from side to side?
I myself did not understand what I wrote, but I would try to do so.
I am so sorry...

[Margitte]

Margitte, try raising your head with your hand to raise the hook, and then pull it out from a more comfortable position. The dough holds the hook, and you raise your head when the ends of the pin rest and slow down. I don't know if I explained clearly.

And here's a question about the duration of the batch. The dough for cakes should be kneaded with your hands for 30-40 minutes. The other day I read from one of the bloggers that in the car he kneads the cake dough at a minimum speed (imitating manual kneading) for about an hour.
Has anyone tried something like this?

Girls, thank you, I managed to shake it a little and then I had to pull it hard, I was afraid to break it, but now it is somehow difficult to insert and pull out, it seems to me
I tried to make a brioche dough today, I never did this, they said that it might take 2.5-3 hours to knead, before the gluten window after 1:50 Keshenka turned off and gave an error E 10 I was so scared that I burned out then turned off sockets, turned it on again and it seemed to work, but I did not begin to knead the dough further from sin

[Margitte]

Margitte, it's good that it turned out to be pulled out.
Do other tips fit well?
Maybe the pin led the hook (though it's thick)

[Margitte]

Margitte, I sympathize. Maybe it really did, I really can't imagine how, he's fat. This has never happened before

they said that it might take 2.5-3 hours to knead

Oh. An unexpected result. And, they say, Kenwood can work non-stop for 72 hours
And I just found the right quote. This is Sergey Registr https: //.livejournal.com/79990.html
“I knead the dough in a slow one-speed kneader for about 60-80 minutes. Firstly, this is a very delicate effect, it imitates manual kneading in terms of the speed of application of the kneading energy to the dough, and most importantly - it gives a gorgeous dough!

The longest kneading period is the first stage when there is still no oil in the dough. The torn dough should turn into smooth. It lasts 30-40 minutes (first two photos).
Next is the introduction of oil. If the dough is properly prepared for the introduction of oil, there are no problems with mixing the oil into the dough (second pair of photos), 10-15 minutes, and you're done.
You can also add raisins (I have a mixture of raisins and cranberries). "

Has anyone tried a similar batch?

[VRad]

VRadWell, today I tried this particular dough. For cakes / brioches, strong flour is needed, I had the usual one, that's why they told me to knead for so long, I saw on Instagram, the cook alone in kitschen eid kneaded for 2.5 hours on the makfa, and he did it. Also, a few days ago I watched Conditoria live on Instagram, they cooked yeast cake, they finished it in 40-50 minutes, kneaded in kenwood, but at almost maximum speed I was very surprised at this, the highest speed was at the stage when the oil was introduced. Incidentally, I did not dare to knead and knead at the very minimum. I did not get to the point of adding oil, because the mixer turned off and I did not continue. Of course, I will not try to make such a dough with low flour again. If the flour is strong, then everything will work out, but we do not sell such flour anywhere.And also, it is necessary that the dough does not heat up above 26 when kneading, I forgot about it, and then I looked at the temperature, and it was 38 degrees.
Marinuly, then I checked the whisk, it is inserted as usual, but for some reason the hook is now gone, I examined it, it seems to be smooth, it is not crooked anywhere



Miranda, here's a photo of the hook, is it normal?