LydiaVera
VRad, no, unfortunately, there was no color book. I only have instructions. And there are tables - the maximum load of products and programs. The programs include Italian meringue, but no recipe. A girl from the Kenwood website promised me to send a book of recipes, she herself suggested. You will laugh, an hour ago it was brought. But it turned out to be a book for Chiefs and Majors. That is, there is no induction there.
We have no water for the second day, an accident. As soon as I can, I will try the meringue from the link that the girls gave.
VRad
Quote: LydiaVera
there was no color book
I have this book. Lucky. It contains 9 recipes for our automatic induction programs with the amount of ingredients and a detailed description of the process. Well, and a more detailed instruction with beautiful pictures.
I wrote to you the proportions of Italian meringue from it.
Zvezda and Lyudmila did the meringue on this program and on page 236 they discuss proportions. It seems that Lyudmila did the proportions from this book.
LydiaVera
VRad, you're lucky! Did you buy it separately or did it come with the car? Where do they get it?
VRad
LydiaVera, they brought it to me along with the car. She lay in the department where the rest of the instruction books in all languages.
Probably can be translated and posted. Even with pictures. Only it is not clear in this topic or in the recipes to make it easier to find. How will the moderators decide.
Miranda
Quote: VRad
Probably can be translated and posted.

That is, it is not in Russian?
Better in the subject of recipes.

Quote: LydiaVera
But it turned out to be a book for Chiefs and Majors.

There are only two books in the form of books in Russian.

1. For Chiefs and Majors - reprinted once, so two covers can be seen on the net, but they are word for word.
2. And for induction first.

There are no more books.
Both books are available in electronic form in the topic of recipes and are also easy to search on the net.

Raya
Good evening!
I purchased KCC 9060 and the description for it indicates that the package includes a bowl with a volume of 6.7 liters, and on my bowl there are risks up to 4.5 liters. Who faced this? And what to do?
eye
Raya, the bowl goes on and above the risks, right? This means that on a liter from 4.5 to 6.7 liters, the bowl is not graduated.
If it is necessary to determine the volume further, you will have to use either a scale or a measuring cup.




Quote: VRad

eye, and when you measured the temperature through the shower cap, was it very different from the displayed one?
degrees by 7, then leveled off and did not differ. maybe I didn't write it clearly, but the cap played the role of a lid, the thermometer probe was immersed in water, its body with a display on the cap)
Raya
Oka
Yes, the bowl goes on and above 4.5 liters.
So this is the 6.7 bowl? Or not? Something I do not understand.
Darkusha
Raya, Yes. this is a bowl of 6.7 l
Olga VB
Quote: Raya
the bowl continues and above 4.5 liters.
So this is the 6.7 bowl? Or not? Something I do not understand.
Quote: ok
If it is necessary to determine the volume further, you will have to use either a scale or a measuring cup
This is in case you doubt the correctness of those. descriptions.
Good luck!
Miranda
Quote: Raya
Who faced this?

All 100% of owners around the world have encountered this.
Raya
Thank you all very much, they reassured me.
LydiaVera
VRad, well, I will very much wait!
Jamilya Korotkova
good day! Owners of the Kenwood 5000 mixer, I appeal to you first of all! I ask for help
I can't make my mixer with a 250 g portion of marshmallows. either I do not beat it and everything flows, or I mix it up and everything flows too; ((((while there are no problems for 125 grams, the mass is lush, the relief is clear. The next portion poured into a baking sheet
Before that, there was a mixer with 1000 watts and a cost 3 times cheaper, it was whipped perfectly ..everything is fine with the technology, I cook everything, beat it, the agar is good, and the end result does not add up in any way; (
LydiaVera
Girls! The circus left, but the clowns stayed. First of all, I want to rehabilitate the honest name of the Cooking Chef's employees. I have this color book! Vague doubts began to torment me about her - if people have, then I should have had it. And I found it! The child dragged such a beautiful aunt into the hole, and even threw it in toys. And I, you bastard, and not there. She is in 5 languages, there is no Russian, therefore, apparently, I did not immediately pay attention to her, and when she was resisted, I did not notice.
It contains recipes for risotto, stew, chicken curry, bread, vanilla cream, strawberry jam, Italian meringue and sabayon.
Readable for me, but not out of place. If Valeria, VRad, not difficult to translate, it will be wonderful. I can also translate some of the recipes, but I will not do it very quickly, I need to do it well, so as not to let the readers down.

But this is all half the trouble. The day before, even before the book was discovered, I still cooked an Italian meringue at induction.

We have no water for two days. So I put off the experiments until later. But then at night a thin stream poured down, and I ran to cook the meringue. My husband went to bed, he had to quickly, because Kesha is buzzing, does not let him sleep, we risked spending the night on the street. Well, foolishly, I didn't translate the menu into Russian. Before that, it was not particularly necessary, but then I ran and forgot, I already started the process.
I had 77 g of protein, in proportion to sugar I put 154 g and water 13 g. I did not put Limonka, for the purity of the experiment.
I decided that I would load the groceries, press on the Italian meringue, and that's it, wait for it to be ready. But the harvester started giving me something in English, I kind of poked something with a poke, the process started. At some point, he slowed down and crawled with a whisk while stirring. I kept waiting for the normal speed to turn on, but did not wait. I understand - something went wrong, but I don't understand how to fix it. He heated everything up to 118, then turned off the temperature, for a while it dropped. Then he wrote - keeping warm, still crawling for ages. Then I read - that's it, it's over, we've arrived. And he turned off. And in the bowl there is some kind of complete nonsense, goo, and in it small firecrackers are floating. At first I fell into a distress, and then I turned on the 6 speed myself. And what do you think - I have a wonderful Italian meringue whipped! Yesterday I did it according to the classics, with syrup. Kesha beat squirrels. It also turned out good, but different. Or I interrupted her a little. One cake is still alive, in the refrigerator, waiting for mom to visit. The cream is good, does not drip, keeps its shape. But it turned out to be more foamy. There are bubbles inside. And this one is a little softer, so shiny, shiny, the texture is somehow already oily. I whipped it up to medium peaks and turned it off, see what happens to it in the refrigerator by tomorrow. But it tasted a bit more egg-like. Maybe vanilla and lemon would make things better. I'll add it next time.
I think it was necessary at some point to press somewhere, maybe on the thermometer button, so that it could combine heating and high speed. And my English let me down, didn't press. I will cook again, now with a Russian menu.
Conclusion - Kesha is good. Even after trying very hard, I could not ruin the Italian meringue to the end. Kesha is a pro, I am an amateur.
Dear girls-moderators! If such nonsense cannot be carried here, please delete it! But don't kick me out of the site!

Miranda
Quote: LydiaVera
But the harvester started giving me something in English

Did you change the language to Russian in the car?
Or is it in Russian, but in the middle of the program some things were written in English?
LydiaVera
Quote: Miranda
Did you change the language to Russian in the car?
No, the machine is not to blame, it was I in a hurry to cook the meringue, without changing the menu language. Then I put up Russian when I cooked it. Now I will try again. I am already nauseous from the meringue, I do not like so much sweet.
VRad
      Recipe translation
    Italian meringue
    118 * C


    Ingredients
    Proteins 240 gr
    Sugar 480 gr
    Water 40 gr

    • Select the Sweet food program and then the Italian meringue section
    • Install the whisk attachment

    Stage 1
    • Place the ingredients (protein, sugar and water) in the bowl
    • Put on the splash-proof cover

    • Press the t button to enable high speed high temperature mode and select speed 6

    • Press the display dial / enter button to confirm



    Recipe translation (see notes)
    Risotto
    100 * C

    Ingredient 1
    Oil 2 table. l.

    Ingredient 2
    Chicken fillet 150 gr
    Garlic 2 cloves, peeled
    Shallots 2 peeled onions
    Leek 1 stalk, peeled, root cut
    Spices to taste

    Ingredient 3
    Arborio rice 300 gr

    Ingredient 4
    White wine 100 ml

    Ingredient 5
    Chicken broth 600 ml
    Asparagus 150 gr. peeled and cut into 3 cm pieces

    At the end of the program
    Tarragon 10 gr. coarsely chopped

    Preparation
    Peel shallots, garlic and leek
    Cut the chicken breast into 2 cm pieces

    Preparation
    Install the stirring pad and stirring clip

    Stage 1
    Add ingredient 1 (oil) to the bowl
    Install the splash guard
    After adding an ingredient, press the enter button (display adjusting knob / enter button)

    Stage 2
    Add ingredient 2 (chicken fillet, garlic, shallot, leek, spices) to the bowl
    Press enter

    Stage 3
    Add ingredient 3 (rice) to the bowl
    Press enter

    Stage 4
    Add ingredient 4 (wine) to the bowl
    Press enter

    Stage 5
    Add ingredient 5 (chicken stock) to the bowl
    Press enter button
    Install the splash guard
    10 minutes after adding the stock, add ingredient 5 (asparagus) to the bowl

    During cooking, until the next stage is selected (pressing the enter button), the keep warm mode is active

    End of the program
    Add tarragon and stir

    Notes.
    1. When translating, I mainly left the terms that are used in the instructions in Russian. Left the word for ingredient in the singular, although sometimes a group of ingredients is implied (see Step 2)
    2. The text that appears on the display is in some sense more informative than the description of the program steps in the recipe. So, I believe that translation only requires the quantity of ingredients and their preparation. Although the description of training certainly suffers. Obviously, the onion, leek and garlic for the risotto must be chopped. The description only mentions that they need to be cleaned, and the root of the leek should be cut off.
    3. Example. Display text for risotto program. By pressing the "programs" button, you successively select, by pressing the enter button: programs - savory dishes - main course. The inscription "wok" appears, turn the knob to the right, the inscription "Risotto" appears. Press the enter button. The text appears: “Install the mixing tip and stirring clip. Press enter. " After you press the button, you are prompted to select the speed to start working and press the button again. From this point on, the stages of the program begin. Each stage is preceded by the inscription: “add ingredient number such and such, press enter”.
    4. During cooking, the display shows the temperature (for risotto, step by step 130, 100, 130, 140, 99)
    5. The power readings (this is understandable) and the rotation speed change (this is not clear, because at high temperatures only the minimum speed will automatically work)
    6. Time of individual stages. While heating is in progress (text "heating" on the display), there is no countdown. When the desired temperature is reached, the "heating" test is replaced by "in operation" and the countdown of this stage begins.


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    LydiaVera
    Girls! Today I cooked the meringue again, this time with a Russian menu. She, it seems to me, turned out exactly the same as yesterday, with which I cheated. Also smooth, all shiny. I added vanillin and lemon, even though they don't have lemons in the recipe, but it's really quite sugary.

    Well, yes, at the beginning of the program you had to hold the temperature button to keep the speed high.And also yesterday I did not wear flexi, the cream on the sides did not mix, I manually intervened, stopping the car. And today I put on flexi and decided not to bother anymore on this topic.
    The cooking process is very long, it was necessary to note the time, but I forgot from the very beginning. Of course, I didn't drive my old mixer so much with this meringue, but he would have died a long time ago. But my cream turned out to be completely different than before. I hope that during this time all the salmonella, if it was there, the dog, has certainly been cooked. Everything was the same as yesterday, except that the nozzles were spinning like mad, and the cream was moaning. Heating, then the heating turned off, the cream cooled down, then the heat was kept for 10 minutes (there was a countdown).
    The squirrel was this time I had 194 g, this is from 4 huge eggs. He rose decently, but according to their recipe, there is generally 240 g of protein. At some stage, towards the end, the mass greatly decreased in volume, well, I think that's it, screwed up the case. I would have turned it off, but the program was not going to stop yet. At the exit, the cream was dense, there were no obvious bubbles inside, all smooth. The cooking time seems to me much longer. than manually. And I liked the result more. Maybe I did something wrong before, or maybe it's because of a different technology.
    Yes, it's also a joy for me - when, after the purchase, I checked the operation of the induction, boiled the water, the bottom of the bowl went nasty stains. And yesterday I noticed that after these meringues she was clean again.

    ElenaM
    Girls, and maybe someone will describe the algorithm for preparing Italian meringue in KM 096. Immediately load water, sugar, proteins, set the temperature to 120, and then how long, at what speed, with which whisk? Maybe someone did, huh?
    VRad
    Quote: ElenaM
    can anyone describe the algorithm for cooking Italian meringue in KM 096.
    I can't describe, but I can give a good link using two bowls. Grazing little by little in the Italian Kenwood Club, I found it there. Google translator translates quite intelligibly.
    🔗
    There are other recipes in which the syrup is boiled in a saucepan.
    I hope I'm not breaking the rules?
    ElenaM
    Quote: VRad
    good link using two bowls
    According to the link, the usual method with brewing the syrup separately from the proteins, but I would like to lay everything together (proteins, sugar, water) (as in Gourmet) and prepare an Italian meringue.
    Margitte
    ElenaM, Read on page 235, Miranda wrote there about it ...
    ElenaM
    Yes, I was there more than once, but there are recipes for KM 096: proteins and sugar and 120 degrees, but there is no water. So I asked: can anyone make a recipe for Gourmet at KM 096.
    Miranda
    Quote: VRad
    Grazing a little at the Italian Kenwood Club

    And I love the French club more
    But I also look into Italian. And then there's a great italian blog about kenwood.

    There is an Italian Gourmet recipe book online, and two books for a previous induction. Google translator is understandable.
    VRad
    ElenaM, found you an algorithm.
    Add proteins, sugar and water (proportions are laid out on the previous page). Temperature 118 *. 6 speed, high speed high temperature mode (HSHT). Duration 10 minutes. Turn off heat and beat for another 10 minutes at speed 6.
    Perhaps after turning off the temperature, the HVHT will need to be turned on again.
    ElenaM
    Quote: VRad
    ElenaM, found you an algorithm
    Thank you, I will have to do it this week, if everything goes well, I will write.
    LudMila
    Quote: VRad
    Add proteins, sugar and water (proportions are laid out on the previous page). Temperature 118 *. 6 speed, high speed high temperature mode (HSHT). Duration 10 minutes. Turn off heat and beat for another 10 minutes at speed 6.
    Perhaps after turning off the temperature, the HVHT will need to be turned on again.
    Try it, tell us later how it happened.))
    In Gourmet, the Italian meringue program worked for me for about 40 minutes, when I did it for the first time, and for the second time - generally more than 50 minutes (but then the protein was 255g).
    VRad
    Quote: LudMila
    In Gourmet, the Italian meringue program worked for me for about 40 minutes
    Interesting. Maybe the car reacts to the quantity? Although it doesn't look like it.On my risotto program, the time of the stages coincided with the instructions 1 to 1. Therefore, I took the description of the meringue from the instructions.
    True, I did not cook the risotto myself - I poured and refilled water into the bowl and watched the process and the text on the display.
    Olga VB
    Quote: VRad
    Maybe the car reacts to the quantity?
    Of course! After all, bringing 200g of product or 400g to the desired temperature - there is a difference in time.
    VRad
    Quote: Olga VB

    Of course! After all, bringing 200g of product or 400g to the desired temperature - there is a difference in time.
    But you yourself wrote quite recently that the temperature on the display is the temperature of the sensor, not the product in the bowl. Am I getting it right?
    In addition, I finally figured out the description of automatic programs in the instructions. There, in the Cooking time line, there are the following designations: 2 minutes - (arrow) 5 minutes. This means that for 2 minutes the machine picks up the temperature and for 5 minutes it runs at it. And it is after 2 minutes that the countdown of the time of a particular stage begins.
    I'll have to run the risotto program with more water and see what happens.
    A thousand years ago, I reviewed the microwave oven, which independently determined the cooking time. So there were built-in scales and almost computer control. In Kenwood, all this is definitely not.
    Miranda
    Two options - either programs are designed for a certain amount of products, or switching to the next stage occurs after reaching certain temperatures.

    It seems to me that the latter. Otherwise, there is some kind of nonsense - 1 glass of water or 3 or 5, and the machine will still go to the next stage in 2 minutes.

    ***
    The further, the less I understand about programs. Some kind of porridge.
    There are practically no experienced users with Gourmet, and the poke method does not say anything and only confuses - something was misunderstood and either clicked or something else. It is understandable, how else to find out, but the last pages are very confusing.
    VRad
    Quote: Miranda
    It seems to me that the last
    It looks like you are right. I went again to experiment with risotto made from water. Deliberately poured in more water than the ingredients should have. The heating time before starting the countdown more than doubled.
    Perhaps the sensor either detects the temperature of the bottom of the bowl or cools down if the bottom temperature is lower than the set one.
    But we still have to figure it out, try again.
    Here's what is interesting. When I got tired of everything and I turned off the machine by pressing the button, an inscription appeared: Do not disconnect the cooling from the network.
    And what could that mean? The fan was not working.
    Olga VB
    Quote: VRad
    But you yourself wrote quite recently that the temperature on the display is the temperature of the sensor, not the product in the bowl.
    Valeria, and where does the sensor measure the temperature? At the bottom of the bowl. What determines the temperature of the bottom of the bowl? From the temperature of the product inside it. And what determines the temperature of the product inside it? ...
    In general, extend this chain yourself to the point about the volume of the product and the time for heating this volume to the specified temperature.
    Good luck!
    Natusichka
    Girls, please enlighten me. You all write about risotto, is it delicious? What does it look like? (just do not say that for risotto ...) Who has a delicious recipe for this dish, please share how it was prepared.
    Twig
    Natusichka, this is rice porridge with vegetables
    VRad
    Quote: Olga VB
    and where does the sensor measure the temperature?
    My destiny is to apologize, apologize and apologize.
    Only now I have bothered to figure out the specifics of induction heating. I thought that the sensor, like in a multicooker, shows the temperature of the heating element.
    Natusichka, risotto is a dish made from certain varieties of rice, which is prepared in a special way with oil, wine, broth and cheese, as well as a variety of additives to choose from: meat, vegetables, seafood, etc. The network is full of recipes. If cooked correctly, it is delicious.
    Today I want to try cooking on the automatic program. The differences are just as unusual as in the case of the Italian meringue. According to the rules, the broth is added to rice gradually, in small portions.And Kenwood offers to plump it all at the same time.
    I'm just talking about risotto. I started translating recipes from a picture book, and then there was the first risotto recipe. I translated it and decided that there was no point in translating the rest.
    nu_sya
    Girls, please tell me which nozzle is better to mix flour with softened margarine for false puff pastry. B 9060.
    Miranda
    nu_sya, in any car it is better to mix K-shaped.
    LydiaVera
    Girls, I'm dulling something. I can’t figure out how to set the direct and countdown time in manual mode. And if with temperature, then generally garbage - I will set t, I switch to time - I will set it, at this moment t is zeroed. Subtracted that the harvester will not give t below room temperature, but this is understandable. It’s hot in my kitchen, so I’m trying to exhibit with this in mind, but still - it works, but no. I gave up, I don't go up to him for a day.
    LydiaVera
    Girls, then another question. Which of the Kenwood Russian-language sites would you recommend in terms of competent advice?
    Marinuly
    I went to the Cookingshef website now.
    Cars 096 and 9060 have risen in price to 64,990 rubles. How long have they been at this price?
    A friend has already decided to buy 9060, and there is an ambush. Now he is thinking of taking 9040.
    I sent it to our site so that I could read the opinions of smart people and decided that it’s better to take it.
    Olga VB
    Quote: nu_sya

    Girls, please tell me which nozzle is better to mix flour with softened margarine for false puff pastry. B 9060.
    Best with knives and margarine / butter is best cold
    VRad
    Quote: LydiaVera
    how to set direct and countdown time in manual mode. And if with temperature, then generally garbage - I will set t, I switch to time - I will set it, at this moment t is zeroed.
    1. Direct reading turns on itself when you turn on the heating, that is, set the temperature and confirm
    2. The countdown begins if you set the time yourself, confirm and start whipping something.
    3. Zeroing the temperature when setting the time. I had it. I described the situation and the way out that I found on page 227 (the first post on the page). Then she got scared too.
    But today, in a similar situation, everything worked fine. Specially checked by reading your message.
    Also, look at the display. Somehow the Machine refused to work for me, and at that time it was written on the display that it was necessary either to lower the head (did not click), or to put on the cover (jumped off).
    Miranda
    Quote: Marinuly
    Cars 096 and 9060 have risen in price to 64,990 rubles. How long have they been at this price?

    Hmm, so that 096 and 9060 are in one price, I don’t know.
    The price went up just yesterday or today, because I visited recently, for a link for a friend, and the price was old. Vacation is over

    And I would have waited now then.
    Maybe the gifts will twist at least. Obviously, the price was changed the other day, maybe they will correct it again? On the installment page, the old price, by the way, was not fixed in time. Until March 8, sorry far.
    Marinuly
    Quote: Miranda
    And I would have waited now then.
    I also think we have to wait. Maybe they will really add some gift.
    Or maybe not, since about 096 it says "check with the manager for availability."
    Miranda
    Marinuly, but you can call and clarify, listen to what they say.

    Maybe then take 9040, and the blender in the Globe for the action (well, other attachments, while the attraction of generosity), and the processor on the computer? Maybe it's more profitable?

    By the way, I plan to go to Globus in the next 7 + - days (either this weekend or Tuesday-Wednesday), whoever wanted what, write in private messages.
    Marinuly
    Miranda, Thank you!
    Quote: Miranda
    you can call and clarify, listen to what they say.
    She's going to do just that. In general, she wanted to take the extended configuration, mainly because of the food processor (food processor). Separately, it will be a little expensive.
    Let's see what they say to her tomorrow.




    And to be precise, she wanted 096 more, so tomorrow she will find out.
    Miranda
    Marinuly, yes, it would be good to immediately expanded, but it's always a shame when the price just rose yesterday.Please write later what they say about the presence of 096.
    Marinuly
    Miranda, certainly!

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