night_furia
Have you watched it manually? Maybe some of those recommendations will come in handy / work.
Marysya27
Quote: Gulya
But I do not have such a magic "P" button on the 9060s.
There is such a button
Quote: Marysya27
1. If you turn on the intensive stirring mode on the heating, then when dialing 60 *, the machine will automatically slow down the stirring rate. If you want to keep the stirring intensive, you need to hold down the t * button again.
VRad
Gulya, I want to add more. When you press and hold the t button on the display, the machine starts again (after deceleration) to gradually pick up speed until it reaches the previously set speed. In this case, you do not need to turn the speed setting knob. And then you can adjust the speed in both directions, if there is a need for it.
Well, and, accordingly, an inscription about the mode will appear on the display, an exclamation mark will light up and the machine will start beeping at regular intervals.
Well, after stopping rotation, lifting the head, etc., you need to repeat the procedure again. If, of course, you want to continue whipping with heat at high speed.
Peter Push
marina__, Congratulations ! Let the waiting time fly by!
Gulya
Quote: VRad

Gulya, I want to add more. When you press and hold the t button on the display ....
Thank you very much!!! Now I'll copy it to my bookmarks)))
By the way, I tried the food processor - I rubbed a 5L bucket so coolly in a minute
Miranda
Reading the instructions is not a sin!
There are many answers
YaizAnapy
tell me Kenwood Chef KVC3100S on Black Friday for 15,000 worth taking? I need to knead 1 kilogram of minced sausage, everything else is there.
Jackdaw-Crow
For such a price, I would take, of course. I just didn't understand, are you going to buy a 1000-watt KMM just to knead 1 kg of minced meat?
YaizAnapy
mainly for kneading minced sausage no more than a kilogram at a time and what to do the hands are freezing the minced meat is warming up, ordered, but until Monday you can think. Hands are not the same
Jackdaw-Crow
Only for minced meat, you can probably find something simpler and cheaper. But maybe later you will "mature" for some additional attachments, as I did, and now I
anna_k
I bought the first Prospero for kneading minced meat in a ham maker. Then I wanted nozzles, bought a sens, dearly and dearly loved. And now a new induction.
And I never cooked the ham
There were a couple of unsuccessful attempts, but I didn't really like the result ...
NatalyaB
YaizAnapy, I understand you. , one of the reasons for buying KM was also kneading minced meat for a ham maker: I didn't want to stand for 7-10 minutes with a hand mixer. Now the minced meat grinder does the stuffing and the spatula kneads. And for ham, and for any cutlets-dumplings - no beating with your hands. And the additives in the minced meat are cut by a food processor or a chopper.
YaizAnapy
I'll take it, otherwise the processor emulsifies, but I don't like spiral nozzles at all
VRad
Quote: NatalyaB
one of the reasons for buying KM was also kneading minced meat
+1. And the second is dough for cakes 😊

I will add about minced meat. Now I made a marble ham, so I got a great emulsion in 3-4 minutes at 2 speeds. Although Miranda I wrote somewhere about 12-15 minutes at a speed of 5.




Quote: Miranda
Reading the instructions is not a sin!
The instruction is good. I spend hours studying the instructions. But until you try it yourself ...
Gulya
Quote: Miranda
Reading the instructions is not a sin!
Yes, she sat down, calmly studied the entire instructions. I found the same description of how to keep high speed at high temperatures. Now I will read more carefully.
Thanks for the advice, girls!
zvezda
To the Swiss meringue! I made an Italian one too .. but I haven't edited it yet, but now I will do it. There is already a video on my YouTube channel





cracked, because I fell asleep and the unfortunate meringue stood in the oven at 100 gr. about 6 hours
Miranda
zvezdayyyyy thought video
Thank you!
zvezda
Miranda! There is no point in embedding the entire video. I showed what structure on an automatic program without my intervention AT ALL.
Honestly, when I was doing Italian, I called Anya as support. (for which thanks to her). I somehow did not dare to immediately load proteins, sugar and water into the bowl. It turned out great! I will post the same photo of the report so that the structure would be seen. True, it was more interesting there
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
I still somehow did not dare to immediately load proteins, sugar and water into the bowl

I also hesitate.
But, apparently, we must try.
zvezda
Everything turned out just SUPER! But at 096 I'm afraid it won't work




Here is the Swiss one !!!
VRad
Quote: zvezda
on an automatic program without ABSOLUTELY my intervention
Do you run the program and do not need to confirm each step by pressing a button?
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
But at 096 I'm afraid it won't work

Why is this? Need to try.
Before the new car appeared, the old one was praised for both Italian and Swiss meringues.

Beat everything 118 degrees, (do not forget to raise the speed with the P button), then off. temperature without stopping whipping. All.
zvezda
Valeria, Do not!! Only once when you add food!
MirandaThere is some strange algorithm of action! First, at the same temperature, then whisk on cooling, and then to preserve heat ... in general, drum
I made a custard and put the dough on Spanish custard buns (in Spain they are popular and very tasty).
Miranda
zvezdabut there is no cooling in Kenwood
The temperature there naturally drops.
zvezda
Miranda, look at the video! I think that this means the period when the proteins are simply cooled and whipped at the same time. The display reads COOLING!
Miranda
zvezda, in simple words, for cooling, you need at least a fan, and at most a system for removing heat through an intermediate body (water).

That is, cooling can be air, liquid, or hybrid. We will discard the liquid and hybrid. And the airy, in turn, can be natural and compulsory.

No unique blowers and fans were added to the new induction, there is no forced cooling, there is nothing like that in the characteristics. If added, it would be an advanced gadget for the market, which not only heats up, but also cools, and what they would write about in huge letters. On the contrary, they write that the machine cannot be lower than the ambient temperature. But she cannot, because she does not have compulsory cooling.

Stirring / whipping speeds up the process natural cooling. And naturally, it is possible to cool and whip at the same time in both the old and the new induction in the same way.
LudMila
zvezda, Olga, thanks for the visual videos!
I saw that there were messages in Russian on the screen. That is, is Russian in the list of languages? And I clicked something and did not find it, probably, I looked badly. But I have Ken 9040, though, what's the difference.
VRad
Quote: zvezda
Do not!! Only once when you add food!
zvezda, Thank you. And where did the rumor come from that each stage of the program must be confirmed by pressing a button?
Tomorrow I will try to make matnakash in automatic mode. Anyway, I get it worse in Kenwood than in a bread maker. So I'm not risking anything.

Miranda, it seems to me that "cooling" is just continuation of the program without heating. Like "turn off the heat and keep whisking." I don't think there is forced cooling.
zvezda, listen to if the fan is running when the display shows cooling
anna_k
LudMila, yes, there is Russian. I rearranged myself through Settings - Languages, it seems.
The instructions say in more detail




Quote: VRad
zvezda, thanks. And where did the rumor come from that each stage of the program must be confirmed by pressing a button?
Apparently from me. If you do not confirm the temperature, then when you set the time, everything is reset.
VRad
Quote: anna_k
If you do not confirm the temperature, then when you set the time, everything is reset.
Oh, I had this or something similar. I wrote before. If the machine has already worked with heating, then the temperature must be set higher than it was. Otherwise, even after confirming the temperature, when setting the time, the temperature was either reset, or its value started to rise when I turned the knob to set the time. For a long time I could not figure out this mess.
But this is in manual mode.
zvezda
Quote: Miranda
at least a fan is needed for cooling
Miranda!Of course, I understand this (after all, Bonch-Bruyevich is under his belt) and with physics I’m on you! I'm talking about an incomprehensible algorithm! It's a pity that not everything is spelled out in the instructions There, for many programs, errors (automatic)
Gulya, On some programs, confirmation is required, but specifically for meringues, no need! And there is no need to press (search) the P button! Your answer is the TEMPERATURE button! And the screen will light up! red and BBST MODE, but this is for manual settings.
VRad
Quote: zvezda
the screen will light up! red and BBST MODE, but this is for manual settings.
Is it possible, if the automatic program has an HVHT mode, does it not light up on the display? I saw it in Italian merengue.
zvezda
Valeria, yes, absolutely right !! If the author. mode t * exceeds the allowable value, the VVST mode is activated and the icon lights up. True, you can apply it manually
VRad
tried the automatic dough program. Well, not quite. First I mixed everything, left it for 20 minutes, and then started the program. I decided to put Butter dough, there kneading 12 minutes, not 8.
Zvezda was right. At least in this program, each step must be confirmed. Kneading does not start until, at her request, you set the speed to 1 (it starts to interfere), press the button - the countdown starts 2 minutes. This is stage 1 mixing. And then there will be a batch. And after the end of the batch, the time is reset, the machine beeps and says: “proofing. Please confirm. " And kneads until you press the button. I deliberately waited, maybe it will stop myself. No. And after confirmation, the heating turns on, the fan makes noise and the temperature on the display is 30 *, although 28 is declared.
The most interesting thing was at the end. When the proofing time ended, she began to interfere herself, without a command. The display shows the message "Confirm workout". After confirmation, a time of 1 minute appeared, the countdown began, and finally, she stopped, stating that it was "finished."
Here, something like this. In the middle of the batch, there was also a “add ingredients” stop.




I have a request for an experienced user. Teach you how to use the processor to cut beautifully, for example, onions into half rings with a shredder disc. So far I have only planed vegetables into the porridge for the dog. So the bow jumps on the disc as it wants and is cut along and then across.
I am beginning to think that I need to select the size of the bulb. So that the half matches the diameter of the tube to which we insert it.
Prank
Quote: VRad
I am beginning to think that I need to select the size of the bulb. So that the half matches the diameter of the tube to which we insert it.

Valeria, I do not have a cache yet, but my majimix combine has a similar principle, in order to get a more beautiful cutting, I try to fill the hole as tightly as possible so that it does not "jump", but not a surprise
alena40
Kind people!!! There is no time to read all topics. I want to order my husband a gift for myself on NG, help me decide on the choice of Kesha's model. I will use it for both dough and slicing, in general, to the maximum ...
Miranda
alena40, kind person, there is no time to retell all topics in your own words. I will say briefly - if "in general, to the maximum", then take the most maximum senior model - Kenwood Cooking Chef KCC 9060S.

Good luck!
alena40
Miranda, Thank you. I'll read about him now ...
LudMila
zvezda, Olya, I would like to ask you more about the automatic program.
Yesterday I was at a master class, and the leading Swiss meringue on the machine did not work! The eggs were just boiled ... True, she did it on a non-Russianized machine, out of 3 they have 2 with Russian and one like this.
Then, so as not to tempt fate, the meringue was still prepared, but on a different apparatus and in manual mode. First, on heating, the eggs were beaten with sugar, and then after 2 minutes vinegar and starch were added.
I'm under the impression ... My friend promised to bring her favorite bezeshki on Saturday, today or tomorrow I was going to do it, and now I think what will come of it.
Just take the food, put everything together in the bowl at once, choose the desired program - and that's it? Or how?
And you can find out - how much and what to repeat the already tried recipe.

Peter Push
Quote: Alena40
I want to order my husband a gift for myself on NG, help me decide on the choice of Kesha's model. I will use it for both dough and slicing, in general, to the maximum ...
alena40, it's a good thing! If, for some reason, the new induction does not suit you, see the answer 4600 in this thread. Good luck!
Prank
Quote: LudMila
Yesterday I was at a master class, and the leading Swiss meringue on the machine did not work!

wow, I thought they always succeed, who should we learn from then ...
lenamild
Quote: LudMila
Just take the food, put everything together in the bowl at once, choose the desired program - and that's it? Or how?
Yes, everything is working out great, Irina Khlebnikova posted an interesting review on YouTube about the new chef, and there is also a meringue there. The Swiss is excellent, with the Italian it is more complicated, according to the technology, first the syrup is cooked, only then it is poured in a thin string into the whipped proteins to the peaks, and in the program everything must be laid at once, my proteins were partially cooked, in the end it turned out, but I did without water , I think it is just here that is needed in order not to cook the squirrels, Khlebnikova did according to the program.
Miranda
Quote: lenamild
in YouTube Irina Khlebnikova posted an interesting review about the new chef

I do not like Khlebnikov, but this is the first adequate review in Russian of a new car. Not perfect, but close to what I would like to see without a language barrier.

Such angry people in the comments
Peter Push
Here it is, this comment -
Miranda, I liked it the same, although I do not like either this blogger or her recipes.
And I liked the car with the presence of an additional stirrer and a program for meringue, chocolate. Very comfortably.
Well, and the anger in the comments is understandable, for whom she worked all the years, whom she raised, what she instilled (for this hopelessness, the lack of aspirations for the better, I don’t love her), and now listen. Everything was in a quiet voice, a multi-year apron, from technology - an old mixer, a saucepan, a baking dish, a knife, there were no scales, everything was measured with cups, cups and everything with pens, handles, our serf. And suddenly I had such a CM and a statement for a long time, they replaced everything for me ...
Miranda
Peter Push, the link is not to the comment, but simply to the review. So I don’t know what comment you are talking about. I'm talking about everything, about 99%. It is clear that the audience is not gathered from the street. Also because of the voice, rhythm and vocabulary I do not perceive. It's like watching some weird "Good Night" in a weird place for weird kids, with a presenter telling a lie.

I like Alexander CookingTime, incredibly positive, the feeling of lightness even from a complex recipe. And his technique is wow, how expensive, and the comments in the bulk are beautiful, fun, thanks for the mood, etc.

Or a business, technological (with a description of almost chemical processes) COOLinar PRO-propaganda, and the comments to it match the same 80% - technological, specific.

But, this is really the first more or less extended review, where the programs showed, the attachments showed, etc. Although there is a twitching there - it says that the mixer is good, so that the dough is better kneaded, and not stopped and removed from the hook, etc. etc.

However, a hook mixer is not allowed! But she's so sly about shortbread and K-shaped.But they may think that any dough, turn on with a hook and ... hello machine. You can't say that if you don't specify the nuances.

Well, since there are two cars, where are the comparisons? Or if it's a commercial, working off for a free car, is it inconvenient to criticize the new one and praise the old one, comparing, for example, a hook?
alena40
Peter Push, Thank you.




Miranda, I was unable to register on CookingTime. I read and looked. I like it..
Margitte
I looked at Khlebnikova's review, I read the girls' reviews here, and it seems I'm starting to regret that I took 096 and not Gourmet
suigeneris
Greetings to dear members of the forum and members of the forum!

Please help me choose a kitchen machine, choose between 096 and 9060. I choose as a gift to my wife, I studied all the information I found - forums, reviews, videos on YouTube. There is a lot of information and reviews from the owners for 096, but not very much for the new model.
So far we have no experience in using CM, so in any case we will have to get used to both the new model and the old one, and, accordingly, there are no attachments either, so you still have to buy them for one thing or another. For the price, the difference between the models is insignificant, the attachments cost about the same.
While the pros and cons of the models are seen as follows:

096:
+ old proven model, full of all kinds of information on the Internet
+ in case of repair, the service knows possible malfunctions and can quickly fix it
+ a minimum of electronics, everything is manual, the car does not consider itself smarter than the owner
+ three nodes for connecting nozzles (versus two in 9060)
- Perhaps in the future there will be problems with finding spare parts, since the model is being discontinued
- it will be difficult to find attachments (of those that fit only 096 and do not fit 9060)
- no off button, you need to pull the plug out of the socket every time

9060:
+ new modern model will be relevant for a long time
+ there should be no problems finding spare parts and attachments
+ smart control unit can help with some cooking
+ more operating modes than 096
- new model, little information on the network, no statistics on reliability and possible problems
- smart control unit, the car thinks that it is smarter than the owner, possible glitches in the firmware of the control unit
- no medium-speed node for connecting nozzles
- possible problems with the service - many repairmen have not seen such a model yet and do not know possible problems and repair methods

Here someone wrote that he has both models at home at the same time, which one is more convenient to use?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
anna_k
suigeneris, the mid-speed socket is not needed, only the kitchen processor is connected to it.
On the attachments - the new nest is more convenient, that is, attachments are put on literally in one movement.

IMHO, with such a difference in price as now, I am definitely for the new model.
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
Well, since there are two cars, where are the comparisons? Or if it's a commercial, working off for a free car, is it inconvenient to criticize the new one and praise the old one, comparing, for example, a hook?
Miranda, yes, of course, advertising, why change the car. Details are not enough, and not a word about the new design of the low-speed socket, so the nozzles will not change, but where is the adapter? where is the new hook, what is worse than its predecessor? She still has a video, and there, quite by accident, the same meringue, but at 096, and was just released before the one we are discussing. And the comets are all under the roller ...
Quote: Alena40
thank you
alena40, presumably - the choice is made! Congratulations!

All recipes

New recipe

© Mcooker: best recipes.

map of site

We advise you to read:

Selection and operation of bread makers