Tanyush @ ka
Masinen, thank you, otherwise I ordered, but somehow I doubt it myself, now I will no longer, I will wait, they will bring it next week, I could have bought it for 36,000 in Eldorado, but already without a nozzle, I still thought it was not bad to have such a nozzle that cuts into cubes
LisaNeAlisa
Tatyana, in the auto cafe I called myself, checked the availability, then immediately placed an order and paid. I don’t know why you did it.
The cube nozzle is very useful, especially if there are blanks.
Tanyush @ ka
LisaNeAlisa, Anita, I did not call, made an order, they wrote to me that they would consider my order and the manager will call back, though in the commentary I wrote that I was only interested in model 060 and not to offer others, so I think that these models ended and they did not call for this
LisaNeAlisa
And I boast: what my cache can do !!!

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Added Sunday 14 Aug 2016 06:38 PM

Tatyana, on the contrary, I first called, clarified about the availability, and only then made out)
Tanyush @ ka
Anita, what beauty, and what model do you have?
LisaNeAlisa
Tatyana, I have 020. The difference was from 060 about 6 tons, but I thought that it was not worth it)))
Tanyush @ ka
Anita, I had to do this too, I didn't think of something, on the Internet on their website and now it hangs that they are available, well, what can I say now, I will wait for my Kesha
Rituslya
LisaNeAlisa, what a beauty!

I called this store. It is available there at the stated price. They are sent to the regions by any TC.
I have to tell at work tomorrow. Nice zhezh car!
LisaNeAlisa
Tatyana, the caches are all good!
Moreover, yours also with a cube as a gift!


Added Sunday Aug 14, 2016 6:44 PM

Rita, thank you))) Hell for the anniversary, 15 colleagues grinded 3.8 kg in 1.5 sitting))))
Tanyush @ ka
Anita, the model is excellent, many girls have one and praise it very much, it is probably the most popular harvester


Added Sunday Aug 14, 2016 6:45 PM

Rita, well, then it's not clear at all, I even checked my phone now, everything is correct
Rituslya
Tanyush @ ka, don't be discouraged, Tanechka. So your car is different, which is about to come to you.
Tanyush @ ka
Rita, thank you, I will wait for my model, this is only my first such harvester, before that I didn’t have a kneader, I hope I will be satisfied


Added Sunday Aug 14, 2016 7:17 PM

On the other hand, the ordered model has a meat grinder, otherwise my floss has already been dull, I was thinking about buying a new one, but now I, as it were, caught two birds with one stone, which is also important.
Miranda
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
And I boast: what my cache can do !!!

Beauty
All I want to do is a colored biscuit, but I haven’t come up with something yet.
LisaNeAlisa
And my friend and I arranged a test drive: the first biscuit she was according to the rules, with the separation of proteins and yolks, with her usual mixer, the second I without separation on the cache and the third on the cache, but again correctly. So, the keshin turned out to be more magnificent and more airy in texture. And the time is 2 times faster. And hands are free. I'm not even talking about the fact that it is a pleasure to make Italian meringue on it. I think now Kesha has become her dream too))))
Tanyush @ ka
Anita, but you can have a cake recipe, it looks so appetizing in the photo, you just wanted a piece and you will need to try a new technique
LisaNeAlisa
Tatyana, I'll write in a personal)))
Girja
Anita, please, me too! Never baked cakes, but your handsome man inspired!
Miranda
And me a recipe


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Quote: LisaNeAlisa
And my friend and I arranged a test drive: the first biscuit she was according to the rules, with the separation of proteins and yolks, with her usual mixer, the second I without separation on the cache and the third on the cache, but again correctly.
I also want to arrange a test.
I somehow can't believe that not dividing proteins is the same as dividing.

What did you think?
LisaNeAlisa
Miranda, we have the best cake turned out just the one where they whipped together. But they whipped a little longer. The foam turned out to be awesome. Apparently, both the whites and yolks are heavily saturated with oxygen, so the cake is straight! And this is a classic recipe for cake, it is here on the forum.


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Tomorrow I'll write a recipe from the computer)
Miranda
LisaNeAlisa, magic!

Well, what if you butcher for twenty years, and now you can not separate
LisaNeAlisa
Miranda, I'm just thinking how the heat will subside repeat and consolidate this moment. We must make sure that it is not an accident ...
Miranda
LisaNeAlisa, I also do not like to drive the oven in the heat. I'm waiting for autumn, for a honey cake, napoleon, cakes and so on. So far, I only watch different videos, but collect recipes.

Only what is easy and short-lived - profiteroles, cookies, tiramisu, muffins.

And Kesha beats minced meat, preparations, bread and pizza more than sweet things. And the blender is at work.
Bijou
Quote: Miranda
Well, what if you butcher for twenty years, and now you can not separate
I didn't even beat it with a blender. Kenwood Kitchen Machines Twenty years.
Peter Push
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
Tatyana, I'll write in a personal)))
LisaNeAlisa, I also want to teach my Kesha this)))
Quote: Miranda
Well, what if you butcher for twenty years, and now you can not separate
But with me it's the opposite, only a year ago I learned that it was necessary to divide. And the pastry chef taught me how to bake a biscuit in the distant 90s.
aprelinka
Quote: Miranda
I somehow can't believe that not dividing proteins is the same as dividing.

in my old book for public catering it was written "do not divide, beat for 20 minutes"
as soon as kesha arrived, he began to strictly follow the wise advice of Soviet confectioners, that is, not to share at all))), but beat for a long time, as they write here "eggs in foam"
I think that everyone can decide for himself whether to divide or not, or some special recipe for a biscuit, not quite classic, where some goals will not be achieved without division
you can set a goal for yourself and bake two biscuits in different ways, then draw conclusions for yourself how you like it more
from myself I will say: the difference will be so insignificant that perhaps many will choose a less labor-intensive option

I will make a reservation again - we beat in a dough mixer, and not with a hand mixer)))
Miranda
Of course, it is not more convenient to separate, especially if there is one bowl.
And then shift, wash, then mix gently. Well him.

I, on the advice of another whisk in the refrigerator, held it for 10 minutes while I did the rest. True, this is only for individual proteins, if they are needed. I liked it better. But I don't think this is a required option.

I also put a knife, grate, auger from the meat grinder into the freezer, if I make meat for sausage / ham. Or a knife from a chopper. It is critical not to heat the meat there. Therefore, for me this is a mandatory option.
Taisia
Masinen, You write that the warranty for Prospero is only 1 year, and for other Kenwood models 5 years. And where does this information come from? I went to the office. Kenwood website. There's a 1 year warranty on Chef and Major kitchen machines
LisaNeAlisa
Taisiya, 5 years when registering a purchased car on the site.
kseniya D
There is a square on the offsites, it says: 5 years warranty. He walks in there and see which models can be issued with a 5-year warranty. After registration, you will receive a warranty certificate by e-mail. At the same time, it is not necessary to buy a car from them.
Masinen
Taisia, here read
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Taisia
Masinen, Thank you. I read it. Alas, Classic Chef KM336 is not eligible for this promotion.
Masinen
Taisiya, yes, indeed, the Classic series does not apply. This means that they do not believe in them that they will work for 5 years without breakdowns.

Miranda
Quote: Masinen
This means that they do not believe in them that they will work for 5 years without breakdowns.

I don't think that's why.

No line of business will provide the same support for products with a price difference of 3-5 times. I don't mean service as a fix, but advertising, description, etc.The consumer should dream of the most top-end thing, and when buying a non-top one, have a feeling / understanding that he still has something to save money for.

Yes, and that's the same

Quote: Masinen
Okay, so my main question was this: Are the insides of economy class and premium class cars really the same?
The answer was yes, only differences in the body and in the motors, or rather in the power.
Masinen
Miranda, yes, that's right, so I was surprised when I didn't find models from the Classic series there. They also cost more than three kopecks))

Yes, the insides are the same for the Chef and Major models.

Usually, if the manufacturer gives a three to five year warranty on the equipment, it means that he is sure that it will last that long without any breakdowns.
Consequently, I had such a conclusion about the Classic series.
Miranda
Quote: Masinen
They also cost more than three kopecks))

I agree.
20-30 thousand is not a penny, but for a company it is not even a price, but simply the last line in the price list.

And the last line cannot have the same service as the first 3-4 lines. But this does not mean at all that the bottom lines are so bad that they are not even given a five-year service.

If the Classic is given a 5-year warranty, fewer people will dream of Cooking Chef and Majors.

Large firms do not make the low lines of their price list a hogwash. After all, these are the most massive sales, and if they are unusable, then there will be the most massive negative, reviews, revealing videos on YouTube, etc. They simply cannot afford this.

On the contrary, they make sure that the word Kenwood (in this case) for the user is equal to the word Quality even in the cheapest model. But at the same time, they openly explain what the difference is - materials, power, capabilities.
Masinen
Miranda, agree.
But there is a but! I would not have bought the Classic for 30 thousand, but immediately bought Sens by adding another 10 thousand and would have received a 5-year guarantee for the car.
And I think many would have done so, because this moment confused not only me, but also other buyers.

Therefore, I do not think that they sell the Classic straight in packs, most likely Sens, 020/060, 010 - these models are bought more.
But on Cooking Chef sales fell altogether, maybe the price was 120 thousand. Then the price was lowered, but I don't think that even for 90-100 thousand, someone will run and buy it. For 60-70, but they would have sold more.

Now is not the time, expensive equipment is not very much sold, if only there is a promo action, then yes. The crisis, people have no money to buy a car for 100 thousand. And whoever has it, so they go to restaurants and don't cook themselves and they don't need Cooking Chef a priori))
And whoever really needs it cannot afford to buy it.
But at the same time, the psychology of our customer is such that he does not want to buy cheap models, because this is not prestigious, and for this there are models of the middle price category, which are beautiful, stylish and powerful))

In Europe, the psychology of the buyer is completely different, they do not need any heating, no timer, they do not need anything. They don't care in which case the mixer will be. The main thing is to press the button and you're done)

In Germany, I talked with an employee of Mediamarkt, so I was very surprised that those models of equipment that in Russia are eager to buy half of the country, then in Germany they are not needed by anyone and their store does not even buy, but you can order if that. There, the simpler the apparatus, the better)

By the way 096 model for 75,990 thousand

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and here in general 66 thousand, but most likely it is not)
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Peter Push
Quote: Masinen
Usually, if the manufacturer gives a three to five year warranty on the equipment, it means that he is sure that it will last that long without any breakdowns.

Quote: Miranda
And the last line cannot have the same service as the first 3-4 lines. But this does not mean at all that the bottom lines are so bad that they are not even given a five-year service.
In Ukraine, there is generally no 5-year iron guarantee, we have cookin, majors, chiefs, and prospero all 1 year. It confused me and very much, because the guarantee is provided not by Kiev or Moscow, but by Kenwood (Delongy). Impression - we are supplied with waste from export. But I bought it anyway.


Added on Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 08:22 AM

Quote: Peter Push
But at the same time, the psychology of our customer is such that he does not want to buy cheap models, because this is not prestigious, and for this there are models of the middle price category, which are beautiful, stylish and powerful))
I think prestige plays the last role here, it just stuck in our minds - the more expensive the product, the better.
AniramI
Tanyush @ ka, did you buy 5030T? Have you already tried kneading on it?
Tanyush @ ka
AniramI, Not yet, only ordered under the order, will be delivered on Thursday or Friday


Added on Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 12:44 PM

Marina, Marina read you have a problem with him? Didn't contact the service?
Sanyusha
Quote: Peter Push
In Ukraine, there is generally no 5-year iron guarantee, we have cookin, majors, chiefs, and prospero all 1 year.
I was in touch with Delongy by e-mail. I was told that the program works, but only in large cities.
Miranda
I wonder if there is such a 5-year warranty in Europe?
Peter Push
Quote: Sanyusha
I was in touch with Delongy by e-mail. I was told that the program works, but only in large cities.
Sanyusha, if Kharkov is not large ...



Added on Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 1:53 PM

This is what hangs on DeLongy's website -
Umovi Garant_ynykh Zobov'yazan. TOV DELONGI UKRAINA will provide a guarantee of service for 12 months from the day of sale. On a Kenwood kitchen machine (okrіm Prospero series)
I was wrong, sorry, in Ukraine for 6 months. warranty.
AniramI
Tanyush @ ka... I haven't contacted the center yet. It turns out that the warranty card is not filled out. Today my husband went to fill out. We planned to go to the service tomorrow. I knead dough for bread every day. Such a crumb is constantly falling.
Miranda
AniramI, if there is a receipt, then the completed warranty is not required by law.
Tanyush @ ka
AniramIGood luck, most likely a marriage, by the fact that I read the reviews, all are very good, well, let's hope that I won't have this, as I'll try to write
Sanyusha
Quote: Peter Push
if Kharkiv is not large ...
This means that it will be possible to check their words only in practice, but it’s better not to.
ludmila_27.79
I found where you can buy rubber feet for Kenwood KM020 and inexpensively. Maybe someone also needs:

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on this site, by the way, there are a lot of spare parts for Kenwood.
jslada
Hello, dear forum users. I have been studying this topic somewhere since June. I want to buy a Kenwood creation. I considered option 060, and many have written about it here, but for money it is much more profitable than kmc 050, since there is also a meat grinder and a juicer. The difference in power is 100 watts. But I didn't see something about 050 here on the forum. Tell me, is it worth it? And the difference in power of 100 watts is very important? Well, of course, the bowl at 050 is smaller, who has 4.6, is it enough, or is it still small? Help pliz a beginner
LisaNeAlisa
Yulia, it all depends on what you need, and only you can decide. Someone has enough such a bowl for a family, for someone and for a couple of people it seems that a large one is better.
jslada
Quote: LisaNeAlisa

Yulia, it all depends on what you need, and only you can decide. Someone has enough such a bowl for a family, for someone and for a couple of people it seems that a large one is better.

I agree, with a cup of course I personally choose. But all the same, besides these differences, are there any fundamental ones in some other characteristics of these models? Still, the amount is not small, I don't want to spend

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