Kenwood kitchen machines

Masinen .. were both the 7300 and 8300 in the store? in the review 73 model, right?

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And where did you apply the scanned receipt?
Was there such a requirement? As far as I remember, there only the serial number had to be written and the date of purchase.

Failed to enter data for obtaining a certificate. Maybe you need to go from the computer?
I registered on this site. There, after registration, they ask to upload a photo of the check.

[freska]

freska, in the review the model with a bowl of 4.6 liters. There was no big bowl.

I can say that you will like it))

Maybe you need to go from the computer?

From the computer they write that

The service is temporarily unavailable, the planned resumption of work from 1.11.2016.

[Twig]

Twig, there is now an inscription above the "Participate" button:
The service is temporarily unavailable, the planned resumption of work from 1.11.2016.

Try after November 1st. Obviously technical work.

Registering online is not the same as registering for the 5-year warranty program.

Anyone can register on the site. Even someone who has nothing from Kenwood and is just about to buy.

But this is an ordinary bowl, do I understand correctly?

About the cup, you'd better call 8-800 ... which is listed on the website and ask. I read exactly the same as you, and it says that the bowl is for the Cooking Chef. And in the models used, too, only Cookings. In my understanding, this is a bowl for induction machines. How do you understand this - I do not know.

[Masha!]

Masha!! Thank you!!! Here's what to do with all the attachments then .... it's a pity for suede jackets !!!
Tell me !! Sufleika is needed or not very much ??? And what kind of stick was reported to me ... I don't understand where to adapt ... nothing is written about it anywhere in the description

[zvezda]

zvezda, if I understood correctly, then the stick is a stirring stick for a blender

Insert from the top into the lid and during the operation of the blender you can stir it for better chopping

This was the very first thought ... but it comes in a box with the combine itself and there is a special place for this thing in foam
packing made: girl_sad: in general, we will think ... by the way, I reviewed all the videos with the blender ..... there is no it anywhere !!

[zvezda]

zvezda, that's for sure for a blender. I have the same one and it is very convenient to use it. I made applesauce for marshmallow: in a blender I chopped apples, cut into large pieces. At the bottom, where the knives - the apples mixed well, and the upper part of the apples was motionless. I poked them with this mixer and they immediately began to mix. As a result, in a couple of minutes we got a great puree))

[zvezda]

maybe it's a stick, is it a scapula?
zvezda, photo in the studio)

[Air]

Air, I also decided to interfere and the blender grinded it. I'm thinking where to get a new one

? And what kind of stick was reported to me ... I don't understand where to adapt ... nothing is written about it anywhere in the description

There are no sticks. There is a spatula of white plastic for wiping off the walls of the bowl. Not good quality. This type, but better sold at IKEA. There is also a gray spatula complete with a blender. It is inserted into the hole of the cover and does not reach the knives. There is no way to grind it.

There is a spatula of white plastic for wiping off the walls of the bowl. Not good quality.

And I like Keshina's spatula. It is good for thick mixtures such as marshmallows and dough. There are both Ikeevsky and Taperverevsky houses, but they are softer, and this one just scrapes.

[zvezda]

zvezda, stick exactly from a blender. Just packed in a presentable box with whisk. Its purpose is to help the products mix without reaching the knives.And then before people shoved all sorts of whisks into a blender and often grind them.

Such a car was provided by Kenwood for disassembly. A little shabby but quite working:


We disassemble.

I would say a good worker, which is evident from the degree of corolla killed.


Judging by the nameplate, Kesha, as you like to call him affectionately, will soon go to school)))


We begin disassembly. All fasteners are practically on sprockets, which is typical for high-quality equipment.
Remove the top cover. Three screws on top ...


... and two below


This is how the lid looks from the inside. Wiring leads to a reed switch that opens (or closes) the circuit when the front drive cover is fitted


And here's what's under the lid. A gearbox is visible, a high-speed direct drive on the engine shaft, an average reduction through a toothed belt and the front-wheel drive and planetary gearbox itself rotates from the middle gear pulley.
The red cap is the oil filler plug of the gearbox.


And here is the neck itself. Inside, you can see the metal gears of the gearbox. This is confirmed by the dark metallic color of the grease inside the gearbox.


This is a close-up of the reed switch under the cover.


They removed the engine mounts - three screws and the main drive belt. The motor is attached directly to the gearbox through plastic bushings and does not touch the housing anywhere.


Bottom cover with reed switch, one that prevents the machine from working when the protection is removed.


Removed gearbox.


It is clearly seen that the gearbox is sealed - the seam on the sealant.


And here is the engine itself. Dangles freely in the housing, the additional vibration-absorbing structure of the motor fastening to the gearbox is clearly visible. The main gear is on plastic gears, which, together with a toothed belt, is quite reasonable. The loads are minimal, and the durability of the rubber / plastic pair is higher than that of rubber / metal (as in internal combustion engines). Neither the drive gear nor the driven gear shows any significant wear.


Engine side view.


Manufactured by the Swedish company Ankarsrum Motors AB


Upper housing with display and regulation electronic board.


Upper case bottom cover fasteners




An attempt to disassemble the gearbox: four screws and ... and here is the Lithuanian holiday "Oblomaitis". The gearbox turned out to be non-collapsible, or rather collapsible, but not at home. The picture shows four main screws and a fifth in the tail under the pulley, which can only be accessed by removing the plastic final drive pulley. And here it is, this pulley, apparently, is hot pressed on the shaft. And manually and without damaging it can not be removed. That is, it is disposable. In any case, my attempts to remove it have led nowhere. It is necessary to press out. This means that later on, it is possible to press it, which is possible only in the conditions of service.
But on the other hand, it means that the gearbox is maintenance-free and practically eternal. And the fact that it is sealed and there is liquid oil inside, speaks in favor of the same assumption. Very similar to the engine lubrication system.


We begin to collect. Put on the bottom cover of the hinged block. You can see how everything is done accurately and thought out. All gaps are sealed with rubber gaskets, preventing the ingress of products from the working area into the mechanism body.


Separate emphasis on the bushings for fastening the gearbox to the housing. Very high quality mirror-polished metal, rubber gaskets and silicone grease. That is, during vibration, friction in the assembly is minimal and wear is practically absent. I did not notice any traces of rubber bands production.


Assembly assembly


And now from below: six screws and ... here it is induction.


The engine control unit is mounted in the housing, and in the lower cover by induction with a fan blown over the entire system.






Well, and the last thing that drew attention to is the rubber feet under which the screws for fastening the bottom cover.
Those who are in the subject will understand, especially engineers ...


Well, after the general impressions of the device.
Everything was done very efficiently, neatly and in place. Gaps are accurate, minimal and well shielded in the right places. Wiring through the body with wires with good insulation, degree of protection and competent fasteners. Disassembly is easy and intuitive. The maintainability is very high.

[Paul I]

Well, after the general impressions of the device.
Everything was done very efficiently, neatly and in place. Gaps are accurate, minimal and well shielded in the right places. Wiring through the body with wires with good insulation, degree of protection and competent fasteners. Disassembly is easy and intuitive. The maintainability is very high.

Paul I , Thank you! The quality is high, no matter how hard they tried to kill (judging by the wear of the nozzles), it did not work out, which requires lubrication - it is lubricated, this is all good. I understand that you have worked on it. And what are the conclusions? And how do you like your sense now with a smaller bowl and power? Do you need to return the car after disassembly? And you won't be allowed to disassemble other cars, would you like to see the premieres, the classic, the prospero?

I understand that you have worked on it. And what are the conclusions?

Well yes.
In terms of the quality of the batch, they are approximately the same, but in the noise of the engine operation, they differ, which suggests that the mechanical scheme is different. The Sens has a dull, boomy and bass sound, in addition, there are clearly audible resonances, depending on the rpm, and the 070 has a thinner, quieter and more uniform sound regardless of the rpm. Which at least suggests that Sens's vibration isolation is worse. However, this may be a feature of this instance. In addition, you should not write off the engine running-in time. The longer it runs, the quieter it is. And comparing a practically new car with a 5-6 tap hole is not entirely correct.

And how do you like your sense now with a smaller bowl and power?

Yes, okay, enough. Generally, in the work of Sens, it is more convenient, more thoughtful. As, probably, and similar to it straight from the tin Titanium.

Do you need to return the car after disassembly?

It was not discussed. I do not know.

And you won't be allowed to disassemble other cars, would you like to see the premieres, the classic, the prospero?

And it was not discussed. But the question can be raised in the future.

There is a spatula of white plastic for wiping off the walls of the bowl.

Induction blades made of gray plastic.
The quality of the plastic is most likely the same, why Kenwood puts a different color in different series - I don't know.
The new induction machines have a stirring stick for the blender.
By design, it should not fall under the knives, it simply does not reach. If, of course, you insert it through the lid, then it will rest and will not fall below the desired one.

photo of the stirring stick under the spoiler.

[Air]

Air, I also decided to interfere and the blender grinded it. I'm thinking where to get a new one

How did this happen? The spatula does not reach the knives. I checked it on purpose first before putting it in the blender.

: girl_red: here is my white plastic, came in a box with a blender and ground

So you put the wrong paddle in :(
We need one with such a knob on top.

PS. Request - an offer to Paul. If possible, disassemble the gearbox. I would really like to see his device inside (probably not for me alone). What is the lubricant and in what condition, what are the gears made of, what kind of bearings are there - bushings or needle bearings, and so on. In order not to compress the gear, you can drill a hole in it opposite the screw. To eliminate the imbalance (although I don't think it will be), you can drill the same opposite.

The idea is good. But I also need a sealant, and I don't know which one. Although there is hardly anything special there.
The gears are metal, this is already visible in the oil filler neck.
Bearings, yes a question. But most likely rolling. Moreover, not necessarily needle, there may be ball. In general, I hardly imagine that in a high-quality technique that claims to "eternity" would use plain bearings. So, most likely, this disassembly will not give us anything new, but will only confirm the validity of our assumptions.
But drilling is already clearly "making design changes." And so far, the go-ahead has not been given.
We need to consult.

Added Monday 31 Oct 2016 06:12 PM

It is a pity that you post the photos so that when you click on it, it does not open more, but simply throws it onto the main page of the forum. Apparently, you post with a forwarding to the radical, and transitions to external links on the forum are prohibited, so he throws it to the main page.

Therefore, it is more difficult to consider in more detail, you need to make a few extras for the photo of interest. manipulations. Better to just take a link to the photo itself, and not to the radical.

Like this. Then the photo is expanded, and not thrown onto the main page.
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...com_smf&topic=467617.1820

Of course it is possible and so, only I do not know the algorithm how to do so.
It's not entirely clear where to get the link from?
Give instructions and try to refill.

Added on Monday 31 Oct 2016 10:47 PM

And you won't be allowed to disassemble other cars, would you like to see the premieres, the classic, the prospero?

Today I talked with a representative of Kenwood and "reported on the work done." I asked about other cars. They said that if this warms up interest in technology and increases demand, they will find opportunities to sort out other machines))).

[Paul!!!]

Paul!!!! Thank you very much!!!!! HUGE SMILE !!
I was interested in two points ... I understand that the transmission belt is rubber toothed, and the gears are plastic?
Why pour oil into the gearbox if, as I understood it, it is eternal (sealed) and in general then, after all, they wouldn't just make a hole like that ??? can?
The legs from the bottom also pleased!
The most important thing for me was induction ... namely the sensor and the fan (I can't hear it at all) VERY PLEASED !!!!
Thank you so much for another 10,000,000 .... times !!!!!!!!!

[zvezda]

zvezda, left for blender, middle and right (not sure about this one) for bowl

I understand that the transmission belt is rubber toothed, and the gears are plastic?

Exactly. But firstly, high-quality plastic is better than metal, including in terms of resource. Secondly, it is quite justified to put plastic on lightly loaded nodes. Thirdly, I have already mentioned that the rubber / plastic pair is more durable and wear-resistant than rubber / metal.

Why pour oil into the gearbox if, as I understood it, it is eternal (sealed) and in general then, after all, they wouldn't just make a hole like that ??? can

Well, yes, it is eternal, but somehow you still need to fill in the oil initially?

Added on Tuesday 01 Nov 2016 12:32 pm

How to insert pictures correctly, tell us. I could not get.

How to insert pictures correctly, tell us. I could not get.

1) option through the Gallery. We go to the Preview and there is a button Insert author's photo into the message. Then I think you'll figure it out.
2) upload some photo to the file sharing service (for example, copy the code of the picture and paste it in. Note, if you copy just the URL of the picture, then paste it through the icon with Mona Lisa, if you copy immediately with the tags [img] or [URL], then just paste in the message.

if you copy right away with tags [img] [URL], then just paste it into the message.

He copied it from [URL] last time.)) Or previews, which contain this tag by default. But you just need [img]. Because the url forum cuts automatically, prohibiting redirection to other people's pages.

Thank you, I did everything as written. Reloaded. But just no sense. When you click on the photo, the size is saved, the photo does not increase as we would like. What have I done wrong?

The gallery always works like that, shamelessly biting the sources.))
Now let's check if Bijou was right in her advice ...

[Paul I]

Paul I, and how the company will understand whether the sales have increased after the car is disassembled
After the heated topic on the bread maker, sales probably increased.

[by]

There, according to the links, everything is too complicated and long (I mean the photo).
It's much easier: the message must be written using a button or, if you are using the "quick" window at the bottom of the page, to insert a photo, click the "Preview" button.
In the window that opens, at the top left there will be a red button "Insert AUTHOR'S photo into message".
If you upload a new photo that is not yet in your gallery, then use the "Select file" button, which will open access to your computer with YOUR photos.
Then, using the button with a green checkmark "upload file" upload your photo to the gallery and immediately get a link to it - full-size and preview. Copy the link you want and paste it into your message.

If the photo has already been uploaded earlier, then by clicking the "My gallery (IvanovIvanovich)" button you get to your gallery, find the photo you need there, copy its address and paste it into your message.
It takes all seconds, 10 times faster than describing.

Photos from tyrnet are inserted by galleries, just at the address using the button

Hello!
On the "Premium Service Program" page (we are talking about a 5-year "iron" guarantee) of the kenwoodworld website it says "until December 31, 2016". Tell me, has it always been like this and usually the "action" is extended or the end of everything? This year I cannot afford to purchase.

I tried to use a search by topic through Print topic, I did not find anything similar.

Paul I, and how will the company understand whether the sales increased after the car was dismantled
After the heated topic on the bread maker, sales probably increased.

Warmed by what? If disassembly, then ...
It offers to give a certain number of promotional codes and give a certain amount of discounts or gifts for them.

Added on Tuesday 01 Nov 2016 21:59

The gallery always works like that, shamelessly biting the sources.))
Now let's check if Bijou was right in her advice ...

Well, you have a magnification, but I do not, What did I do wrong?

But I did not understand how to make it downloaded from the gallery with magnification. Well, or how to upload it to a large gallery.

The gallery always works like that, shamelessly biting the sources.))

That is, in no way.
Did you want to learn how to fill normal size pictures into the topic without too much compression? Hooray, you learned how to do it.))
At the same time, I'm not sure that the original photo with a huge resolution will still not be truncated to some forum standards, but in general, such a solution is enough. And if you need to give a full-size original, you will have to post it with an inactive link - this forum does not automatically turn such links into pictures.

[not]

Reloaded from the radical without [/ url, now increases.

Pavel, I wrote to you in Russian in white: forget about the radical at all !!!
Pour into the HP gallery directly from your computer, from your files, not through the radical. Directly !!!

Well, that means we need to resolve the issue with the gallery so that it gives, if necessary, the ability to increase the image to its normal size.

Or learn how to take a clean URL from the selected photo hosting, and insert it through the "picture" button, like in any other forum.

The fact that there is a Gallery is an auxiliary tool for those who do not know or for some reason cannot use photo hosting. All the same, there are many people who have lived half of their lives without a computer. And the main thing is that photographs do not disappear from recipes over time.

The forum is developing well and has excellent administrators. The question of "looking at the small details" is not an issue in either technique reviews or recipes. And analysis to the cogs, where the details are really important, is a rarity here.

Meticulousness is sometimes beautiful and sometimes incorrect.
Now it was incorrect.
PS and in my opinion, the conversation about the photo has been delayed, which adds work to our moderator.

Questions about the work of the forum, etc. can be asked in this section https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=531.0

I cleaned up the last pages a little, then I will remove the unnecessary ones when Pavel deals with the photos and the HP gallery

It offers to give a certain number of promotional codes and give a certain amount of discounts or gifts for them.

This is a good idea!
It would even be possible to organize something like a competition - new recipes for Kesha - with prizes in the form of gifts, discounts and so on.
At our forum, representatives of various retail outlets and / or firms regularly organize such contests, and this, on the one hand, allows us to reveal the capabilities of technology, and on the other, to attract new customers and increase sales.

I cleaned up the last pages a little, then I will remove the unnecessary ones when Pavel will deal with the photos and the HP gallery

Thanks, I figured out the gallery. If I understand correctly, she does not allow to insert large photos.
I realized that this can be done through the radical and others like them.
But how to do this without a radical and a gallery, I have not yet understood.
If anyone can give step-by-step instructions in PM, thanks.

Hurry up, organize a competition so that a person knows the pro-code?

This type of person took part in the competition, and gave him the scales when buying a car for 60 thousand.
Nunu, everyone will run straight away in such a competition to participate.
Someone will not care about the scales, but someone still has no money for a car.

[Veta]

Veta, the prizes are always known in advance and are usually very good prizes. Therefore, everyone decides for himself whether he is interested in it or not. In addition, Kenwood has other vehicles, not just CM. And to KM there are not only scales. Some attachments aren't cheap either.
The question here is whether all this is interesting to Kenwood himself or some kind of trading organization.
And there are many hostesses on the forum who are interested in participating in competitions, even regardless of the prizes.

Girls, there can be no competition without Chefv's permission.
Those Kenwood himself can't come and say hello, I'm your aunt ....))

Well, of course, no one will go without the owner. But could you put forward the initiative?

[Bijou]

Bijou, Len, they can offer, but if the prize is a promotional code, then forgive, it will be fun to chickens.
Better not to be dishonored.

Girls, now the doorbell rings, a courier arrived and brought me a recipe book - "IT IS EASY TO COOK WITH KENWOOD." The letter said that at the end of December. And the book was handed in person and free of charge, there is no limit to surprise and joy !!! : girl_dance: The book is glossy, beautiful and, in my cursory glance, very useful !!!!

[Irina]

Irina, and when did you order?

[pljshik]

pljshikwow good

Are these just recipes or using a machine?

Miranda, the whole book is devoted specifically to cooking with Kesha (his attachments). Recipes for the Kenwood Chef and Major Kitchen Machine. The first chapter is just about the attachments.

[pljshik]

pljshik, ahh, clear, new version
The name was knocked down. They used to be called in everyday life - a book for cars such and such

now specially looked - published by the Romsey group in 2003 for "Kenwood Ltd"

[pljshik]

pljshik, oh, how long ago!

Maybe it was prepared then, of course, and they republish it periodically. They sell Kesha all the time, he is in good demand with us, the car is good!

[pljshik]

pljshik, agree
I think that they made up then, hardly a circulation of 13 years ago.

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Listen, here they periodically compare 3D Boshev rotation.

And it turns out that the younger Kenwood models - Prospero and Multivan - also have 3d mixing

Today I was in the Mediamarkt, and I saw it, I was immensely surprised, because I don't remember anyone mentioning it.

Why “I don’t remember”?) I asked Masha, she replied that there were only two movements.