LisaNeAlisa
yana0505, here or in the topic about nozzles, one of the girls wrote how they do in a grinder ...
yana0505
LisaNeAlisa, tomorrow I will try in a blender, maybe it will work, there is no TC chopper yet. You need to adapt somehow.
LisaNeAlisa
yana0505, I tried it in a blender, it just smears a small amount on the walls ... but you try it, it suddenly works ...
Peter Push
Quote: yana0505
And another question, are you making mayonnaise in a bowl or is it better to make mayonnaise in a blender
yana0505, once upon a time, a very long time ago, I made mayonnaise (150-200 grams each) in a narrow high jug with one nozzle of a hand mixer, the second did not fit there, the mayonnaise was obtained quickly and was delicious.
Olga VB
Quote: yana0505

Olga VB, I do not have a submersible, how can I do it with 096? Or not bother?
You can then do it in a stationary mixer: put everything in the mixer that is included in the recipe of your choice, except for the oil.
Beat it all at a high speed for 20-30 seconds, you can on a pulse. And when the mass becomes homogeneous, turns white and thickens, you begin to slowly pour oil in a thin stream, watch it interfere, emulsify. If something goes wrong, then let the beating continue, and slow down with the butter until everything becomes heterogeneous again. Then continue pouring the oil. Etc.
Everything should work out.
Good luck!
Paul I
Quote: yana0505
no one analyzed how much electricity it takes
Analyze, how is it?
Isn't it easier to calculate?
Power 1500 W, i.e. 1.5 kW. So it consumes these same 1.5 kWh per hour. So the cost of an hour of his work is about 4 rubles. Maximum. at lower speeds and lower temperatures, the consumption is less.
Something like this.
Bijou
Quote: Paul I
Power 1500 W, i.e. 1.5 kW. So it consumes these same 1.5 kWh per hour.
Gee. So on my non-induction supposedly consumption is 1.4 kW. This does not mean that he consumes exactly so much?
yana0505
Olga VB, Peter Push, LisaNeAlisa, Miranda, kseniya D, Girls, thank you all, the mayonnaise turned out. True, it spilled all over the blender, but it's not scary, the main thing is the consistency turned out to be just right, airy, homogeneous.
It also turned out very cool choux pastry for the pie. Made according to the recipe "Festive roll (svyatkova) on choux pastry from D. Zvek". The hook did a great job, mixing it with 1.2 kg of flour.
Miranda
yana0505, Well, fine!
It will be more convenient in a multi-shredder, since the size of the bowl is orders of magnitude smaller.

Is there such a recipe on the forum? Or should you google it?
yana0505
Miranda, I took the bread recipe on the forum, though then I took out the legendary book of recipes by D. Zvek and checked the recipe again, I needed the TC volume more than on the forum. (there is 500 g of flour)
Twig
Girls, what a lovely, toy Kenwood titanium
🔗
LisaNeAlisa
It also works !!!! From childhood, you need to get used to good things, that's right)
Oktyabrinka
and I cook all the processed cheese at 096 from homemade cottage cheese, it is boiled a little to the bottom, but washing is not difficult, but there is always cheese. such a byaku is being brought to us - it's impossible to eat. recently acquaintances came in, treated them to sandwiches with cheese, they said very tasty
yana0505
Oktyabrinka, please write a cheese recipe
Oktyabrinka
yana0505, made here according to this recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=458726.0
tia
Good evening, dear members of the forum. Just for information. A new Kenwood machine has appeared on European sites: KENWOOD Titanium Chef (XL) Pro. Nice looking in a more rounded design, closer to SENCE, but based on titanium. Power 1500 Chef and 1700 Major. Illumination inside the bowl, control and tilting of the "head" are also like in Sence. In addition to the usual ones, the kit also includes a souffle nozzle. They write about electronic speed control and an additional mode for mixing flour, etc. into a biscuit, as well as a start / stop button.
Masinen
Irina, I found this one

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Miranda
Masinen, and there are new items?

I'll go google or something
Masinen
Quote: Miranda
Masinen, what's new here?
yes, in general, maybe that's why the price was lowered to induction, maybe they are preparing something new ... cunning
Miranda
Quote: Masinen
yes, in general, maybe that's why the price was lowered to induction, maybe they are preparing something new ... cunning

So the novelties are without induction.

I haven't googled something yet
Masinen
Quote: Miranda
So the novelties are without induction.

So maybe they will give out a new one with induction in the spring
Miranda
Quote: Masinen
So maybe they will give out a new one with induction in the spring

Let's look at him
We will want
Peter Push
And here is also with a large bowl 1700w

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Pancho
Looked at Ken's website Great Britain, nice But I was more interested in a large number of recipes (in English) for induction.
Of interest for the sake of a roundabout way I downloaded them to my phone with recipes, it seemed strange. You choose recipes according to the model, so the induction itself is not used anywhere. Even the recipe for choux pastry for profiteroles on 080 says "take out the pan, put all the ingredients and heat while stirring."
On Ken Russia, by the way, there is a promotion for blue kMix - a whole set of a mixer, kettle, toaster and coffee maker for only 45,000.
And the prices for kenwood-bt remained "promotional". They just removed the word.

They would have made it possible for several attachments to work simultaneously, they would not have had a price. Well, or somehow separately disable / enable, say, two pairs of sockets.
Peter Push
What pleases the new chefs is a hook like in induction. How much will they charge for them? I think that next year there will be induction at the chefs, and it is quite possible to work with two nozzles at once, but why such power. Progress does not stand still))), And our forum is read)))). Bijou, just right to start saving for a "curved piece of iron".


Added on Tuesday 04 Oct 2016 11:42 PM

Here is another photo, and its price is 849 euros
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Miranda
Quote: Pancho
Looked at Ken's UK site, cute

Oh, I should have switched to Britain.
And then I only googled the German Amazon. If you turn down there, there is a comparison table, but I don't speak German. 🔗
And also a Czech site, but I speak Czech almost like Russian.
🔗

Some kind of lighting, cool.
And a soufflake included!
Hook like induction.

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Large bowl called Titanium XL KVL8300S
Smaller bowl - Titanium Chef KVC7300S

This is someone for googling.

Nice, and modern improvements are enough.
Better than steel. Probably, when new inductions are available, they will take a lot from these new products.

Something I have today is a novelty day

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Quote: Pancho
But more interested in a large number of recipes (in English) for induction.

Almost all the recipes and more are in the book that was finally sent.
Even the same photos.

From new - there is no recipe for marshmallows in the book

But there are also many recipes on the YouTube channel specifically for induction and in English. And for just kitchens. machines. In principle, it is clear there.
Here are all the playlists with recipes - https://www.youtube.com/u...elf_id=13&view=50&sort=dd


Added on Tuesday 04 Oct 2016 11:50 PM

Quote: Peter Push
How much will they charge for them?

Czechs are asking for 23 thousand. CZK.
This is almost 60 thousand.

And 849 euros is about the same.

We have a riddle.
Although the equipment is good, I am guided by the Czech site.
Both the hook and the soufflake. Blender and food processor with spindle for high speed socket. Meat grinder yet.


Added on Tuesday 04 Oct 2016 11:55 PM

Quote: Pancho
Even the recipe for choux pastry for profiteroles on 080 says "take out the pan, put all the ingredients and heat while stirring."

I looked in the book, they write that put butter, salt and water / milk, set the heat to maximum and stir at speed 3 until boiling. Then add flour. When mixed, turn off heat and stir at 1 speed for three minutes. When it has cooled to 80 degrees, add the egg.

That is, they write normally
Bijou
Quote: Miranda
Nice, and modern improvements are enough.
I’ll say nasty right now .. Too many of today's improvements are aimed solely at pulling money out of thin air, IMHO. I observe trends in washing machines and vacuum cleaners, where people are smarter chasing old rulers, because they are more reliable and have at least some maintainability. Yes, in the new washer there is also a backlight in more often drum. And a non-separable brewed tank.According to the manufacturer's idea, to replace the knocking bearing, it will be necessary to buy out the entire drum and tank assembly. But the manufacturer saved a lot of money on screwing in a dozen self-tapping screws.))

I have nothing against Kenwood in this conversation, because I do not know anything about his insides and resources. Just thinking out loud.



Added on Tuesday 04 Oct 2016 23:59

Quote: Peter Push
Biju, it's just right to start saving for a "curved piece of iron".
Okay, I'll get a separate envelope.
Miranda
Quote: Bijou
Just thinking out loud.

Agree!

I love Samsung smartphones, especially the Note line.
But starting from the 5th model I will never buy, because a non-removable battery is a pull of money, and not a super design and other types of good. I do not need such an improvement, there will be no removable battery - I will vote with a ruble!


Bijou
Miranda, my soul, well, do you really have a banal wattmeter?)) I'm very interested in the consumption of induction Kenwood.
It is clear that the declared watts are a purely Chinese version and there are no 1500 or 1700 (who is more?) There. But why don't I come across power in the descriptions slabs heater? I don’t know where to look?
Miranda
Quote: Bijou
Well, don't you have a banal wattmeter?

No
There is not even a multimeter, although I need one, since I myself collect spare things for an electronic cigarette, but I wind the wire by eye.

I have an electric jigsaw and an electric drill!

Bijou

Will not fit.


Added Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 00:43

Quote: Miranda
Smaller bowl - Titanium Chef KVC7300S

This is someone for googling.
Oh, so this is already being sold with might and main?)) 57490 in Mvideo. And 62490 for a big one. Even buyers are available with a review.))
Miranda
Quote: Bijou
Oh, so this is already being sold with might and main?)) 57450 in Mvideo. Even the buyer is available with a review.))

You and I have some kind of different internet!
That's just what the search engines said (not here).

Doesn't give me yours!
I just went straight to Mvideo and there are both options.

Only there without Titaniums in the name, which is probably why the search engine is stupid.

Kenwood KVC7300S - 57 450
Kenwood KVL8300S - 62 490

And the equipment is naked!
I mean, without a blender, food processor, meat grinder, like the Czechs

Only 5 bowl attachments - Whisk, Hook, K-shaped, Flexi, Soufleika.

There and in the instructions it is not indicated that there is at least a blender.

I understood about the illumination - it is above, near the attachment of the hooks-rims, it shines down onto the bowl.
tia
Bijou, the power of the heater in the description of induction indicates 1100W.
Miranda
I do not know how it was googled, that only foreign sites were issued in the evening.

But at the Russian office. the site has both options.
Did they add them tonight or what?

🔗

Fuh, something I'm tired of googling

Bijou
Quote: Miranda
Fuh, something I'm tired of googling
Well, of course.))) I, without having time to finish reading to the end, they say, "ay-ay-ay, Miranda doesn't googling, I need help!" I already screened it - I think maybe there really is a different assortment in different cities?

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Quote: tia
Bijou, the power of the heater in the description of induction indicates 1100W.
In! Thank you very much, you really helped me out.



Added Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 01:22

Quote: Miranda
Did they add them tonight or what?
There are reviews of the purchase from 3 and 4.)) Moreover, they are already working with might and main and check out how much it is.
Miranda
Quote: Bijou
There purchase reviews from 3 and 4.))

I meant office. website.
We spent the whole evening looking for information on foreign sites, and it is on the Russian site. But either they just added just that, or something else, but neither Yandex nor Google provided links to Russian-language sites at all.

If you google Mvideo - Kenwood and only the number, without the titanium chief and hl - gives out.

But maybe custom reviews. Then ugh do it. Even for a good thing.
Pancho
Quote: Miranda
Almost all the recipes and more are in the book that was finally sent.
Even the same photos.

Oh, did you have a coupon? I didn't even find an ID, although I was on a regular Ken. Maybe they don't do them anymore.
Quote: Miranda
I looked in the book, they write that put butter, salt and water / milk, set the heat to maximum and stir at speed 3 until boiling. Then add flour.When mixed, turn off heat and stir at speed 1 for three minutes. When it has cooled to 80 degrees, add the egg.
Not so in a mobile app. Sucks, in a word. The same profiteroles (when choosing recipes for 080) advise "Place the water, butter and salt in a saucepan and heat gently until the butter melts, then bring to the boil".
Well, the reviews on Mvideo are definitely left, because they really write as if they have been using it for a long time. And at the same time, if you press "availability in stores", then you can see, you cannot look anywhere else, everything is "in stock".
Paul I
Quote: Pancho
They would make it possible for several attachments to work simultaneously,
In principle, this is possible. Enough power. And formally there are no other restrictions.
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Pancho
reviews on Mvideo are definitely left
They generally sin with this: you just look at the reviews in the MVideo-fairy tale, you have to run straight and grab, and then go to the Yandex market or wherever you go, it may turn out that the product is complete crap.
Bijou
Quote: Paul I
In principle, this is possible. Enough power. And formally there are no other restrictions.
You are more careful with such assumptions.)) And then someone kaaak will try ... And maybe the nafik motor will burn. )

Even when kneading the coolest dumplings dough with a moisture content below 50%, when the whole car was already crumbling from a spill, even when the speed was raised in this terrible mode to 4-5 (or maybe even higher, I didn't look too closely), I failed to raise power consumption more than 215-230 watts.
Twig
I don’t understand, but why do we need several nozzles to work at once?
Knead the dough, roll and beat the cocktail? All at once, these are six hands you must have. Well, or at least 4.
Paul I
Quote: Bijou
It is clear that the declared watts are a purely Chinese version and there are no 1500 or 1700 (who is more?) And there is no trace
What is it like?
I believe that the declared watts are quite a European version. And the induction power is included here.


Added Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:03

Quote: Miranda
Fuh, something I'm tired of googling
Go to Yandex!
Pancho
Quote: kolyubaka
I don’t understand, but why do we need several nozzles to work at once?
Wouldn't mind being able to use a blender while the hook / whisk is running. This would be more versatile, and then one kitchen machine could actually replace several appliances. In the meantime, individual devices have a plus in the form of the possibility of their parallel operation.
Bijou
Quote: Paul I
What is it like?
I believe that the declared watts are quite a European version. And the induction power is included here.
There is no induction in Chef 050.
Paul I
Quote: Bijou
You are more careful with such assumptions.)) And then someone kaaak will try ... And maybe the nafik motor will burn. )
It is almost impossible to burn a motor with a capacity of one and a half kilowatts. There is a decent power reserve. Well, yes, a meat grinder or dough mixer can eat a good bit of power, but if you put on a blender or vegetable cutter at the same time, they will practically not add consumption. You can experiment. By the way, what was the power measured?
Bijou
Quote: Pancho
Wouldn't mind being able to use a blender while the hook / whisk is running. It would be more versatile
Well, that is a given. In principle, one could take the risk of trying it at idle. Tracking consumption. Maybe I'm wrong and the declared power should arithmetically add up from the consumption of each nest separately.
This is if the machine does not block the work at the program level.
Paul I
Quote: Pancho
Wouldn't mind being able to use a blender while the hook / whisk is running
I believe this is possible without major problems. My wife did something similar, I will clarify. And no problems yet. And theoretically there won't be any. The engine load will not increase much.


Added on Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:16 AM

Quote: Bijou
This is if the machine does not block the work at the program level.
What software? There that, the processor controls the distribution of power, suppose?
Something doesn't seem to work.
Bijou
Paul I, one and a half kilowatts is consumed by my vacuum cleaner.))

I would experiment in my repertoire (poor, poor my technique with Bijusina's love of crash tests), but all my other attachments were not even unpacked from the boxes, because I don't need them, so I don't exclude the possibility of sale.

I measured what everyone is measuring - with a wattmeter. Absolutely correct working device, tested on many home machines.
Paul I
Quote: Bijou
There is no induction in Chef 050.
So what did you measure?
And do not forget that power is active and reactive.


Added on Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:20 AM

Quote: Bijou
I measured what everyone is measuring - with a wattmeter.
I understood it. Device name, accuracy class?
By the way, why everyone? I measure, for example, with an ammeter.
Bijou
Quote: Paul I
What software? There that, the processor controls the distribution of power, suppose?
And in the new ones? Even it seemed to me that there is already a lot of electronics. Not? But I don’t insist.
In the old ones, surely there are no mechanical interlocks while simultaneously occupying several nests?

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