Kisanata
Sivana, tell me where you ordered a grill pan for AF XL. And how much it cost you together with delivery. I really want to buy it. Thank you.
Babushka
Sivana, what a beautiful girl! Congratulations! Have you already updated?
Sivana
Tatyana, thank you I haven't done anything yet)) Probably, you need to ignite it first, how long?

Irina, I bought everything on the German Amazon. A frying pan costs ~ 34 €, delivery ~ 47 €, but this is for 10kg, all of the above was in one box)) I will expose a photo of a grill pan in the AF theme.
Babushka
Sivana, I calcined, just do not remember how long .. Probably 2 timers, 10 minutes.
Reine de Saba
For some reason, my relationship with Bestron is not going well. Owners, can you tell me how to find an approach to this device? I've been trying to portray pizza for three days. Well, nothing happens. It's not that. In general, the results are not encouraging. That does not fry on top, I add time. As a result, overdried crackers in 15 minutes. Another option is raw dough, raw filling, and golden brown bottom crust.
Pita did it at the very beginning and it seemed normal. I already don’t know what to do
Kisanata
Sivana, thanks for the answer. I found a frying pan only in the Amazon for us German. But I don't know the language. And I don't understand anything. And on Amazon in Russian there is no grill pan for AF XL. Throw off a hundred link in a personal. I really want to buy It.
I will be very grateful.
irysikf
Finally, I got my hands on the stove (Ferrari delicia oven.)! I really liked what I baked in it!
1. Chuchelkina Pizza with anchovy butter https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=80142.0
this is how I got it
Pizza oven
I liked the taste of Pekla, first 2 minutes base, and after applying anchovy oil another 2 minutes.
2. Chuchelkina Pizza with pear and gorgonzola https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=305988.0
Pizza oven
I bought 2 types of Gorgonzola, because I didn't know which one I needed, I cut the spicy one in one half, it had such a pronounced taste and there was a lot of green mold, and for the second Gorgonzola cream (as it was written on the label), the cheese was soft, prm like brie and mildew, the green is shining and little of it tastes like spicy. I really, really liked the half with spicy gorgonzola, I just liked the other half. True, I forgot to pour honey

Baked for 3 minutes at division 2.5

3. Pizza with balyk, bell pepper, tomato and mozzarella
Was baked in 3rd position for 3 minutes
Pizza oven
I tried to photograph holes
Pizza oven

The sides are so deliciously fried, just like I love. They probably turned out like this because I greased them with olive oil
I baked this pizza on foil - it stuck strongly, barely ripped it off.
The rest of the experiments were carried out on the lower part of a detachable mold with a diameter of 19 cm (but its bottom was scratched by the stone, it is with a non-stick coating). Now I will hunt for such a flat pizza pan, as it is very convenient that there are no sides.

HUGE thanks to Tanya Granny for the dough recipe from James Oliver !!! I immediately kneaded for a kilogram of flour. I had to determine half of it in the freezer. At the same time I'll see how it will behave after the freezer.
Babushka
Oh, Irahow delicious!

And I don’t freeze Jamie Oliver’s dough, it’s normally in the cooler compartment for a week.
irysikf
Yes, I wouldn’t freeze it either, but it’s like a lottery for me - I may not cook anything out of it in a week, then I don’t want anything tired, then someone will get sick. And most importantly, the stove still lives underground until it found a reason to show it to my husband, so I can cook in it only when all the cards come together, and most importantly, that my husband is at work, oh how
irysikf
Babushka, Tanya, did the dough stick to the foil?
Babushka
Ira, to quality - no. To the one sold in stores - slightly, but I began to sprinkle a little vegetable oil. Got better. Good foil zhaaaalko.

Well, a conspirator!
irysikf
Quote: Babushka
Well, a conspirator!
You understand, not very loyal (and this is putting it mildly) to kitchen bells and whistles must be approached in all combat readiness So I trained with pizza, understood it (pizza bake), now the next step is to bake vegetables, and I want to try the meat like a barbecue, yes I will try other variations with meat. And as they say, I will present fully prepared dishes, so that there was nothing to complain about
Babushka
Ira, very correct tactics! First, feed, and then explain .. And they ask me if I got sick ... I didn't buy anything for a month!
shuska
Quote: irysikf
... dough recipe by James Oliver ...
Please poke your nose into this recipe
shuska
Thank you. I will definitely try
TatianaSa
See what I found. A copy of the princess 🔗 Pizza oven
True, it is a little smaller and costs 700 rubles
Masinen
Tatyana, and what is its diameter?
Manna
This is a waffle iron (flower) Delta DL-13K.
Pizza oven
Masinen
Manna, aaaaaa, well, everything is clear))
TatianaSa
Oh, but I naively thought a copy of our princess. It turned out to be a waffle iron. If not for you would have bought as a gift.
Babushka
Made croissants at Ferrari. Liked. Baked after calzone and pizza.
Pizza oven Pizza oven

Pizza oven

Distracted, overexposed ... Puff yeast dough. Baking on foil. I will do more.
Catwoman
Awesome croissants!
Babushka
Lena, thanks!
Masinen
Babushka, Tatiana, go nuts !!
And what temperature did you set?
Babushka
Maria, baked pizza and calzone for almost 3, then turned it off while having lunch. Then I turned it on at 2 1/2 and put on the croissants. After 5 minutes I reduced dr 2. And missed ... Next time I will keep less.
lettohka ttt
What handsome guys: drinks_milk: and I did it today too, though in the oven :-) :-) if everything is with: rose: I will also have a toy :-) :-) :-)
Sivana
Tatyana, great idea And how are they lubricated?
Babushka
lettohka ttt, I am very happy! The toy is lovely!

Sivana, greased with melted butter before and after curdling.
lettohka ttt
Oh, thank you for the advice, I really didn't know what to grease with oil: drinks_
Babushka
lettohka ttt, this is optional. I needed to consume the rest of the oil.
irysikf
Thank you, Tanya, for your experiments. Listen, what else did you bake in the pizza oven? I make a list of tests for a pizza maker for the weekend, I am constantly gnawing at the feeling that I should have baked something from your masterpieces, but I don't remember what
Babushka
Ira, Thank you! I really like puff pastry without yeast and I also really like tortillas. They turn out like tandoor.
irysikf
Quote: Babushka
I really like yeast-free puff pastry
What did you bake from this dough?
Babushka
Tongues, apple puffs, cottage cheese puffs.
irysikf
Did I understand correctly that you baked tongues, apple puffs, cottage cheese puffs in Ferrari?
Ipatiya
Quote: Babushka
I also really like tortillas. They turn out like tandoor.

Another argument in favor of a pizza oven. I read that once on a hot stone, the dough "explodes" with beautiful holes. Babushka , have you ever tried making a ciabatta in a Ferrari?
Babushka
Ira, in Ferrari, puff pastry is very airy due to the fact that there are holes in the lid rim for ventilation. And in Princesses, yeast dough pies and muffins are better. But I haven't tried the shortbread yet ..
Babushka
Ipatiya, no, I haven't tried ciabatta yet. I'm afraid I will be upset, as I usually baked on a stone in a convection oven. What if it doesn't work?
TatianaSa
Girls, my bestron came to me. What to say? Everything came safe and sound. And since I never learned how to upload photos. I won't be able to show you a comparison with a Ferrari with fantasy.
TatianaSa
Differences between Ferrari and Bestr 2. Teng in Bestron is round in Ferrari V-shaped and also in Bestron along the perimeter of the upper and lower covers of the steam outlet. Everything else is exactly the same. I give the Ferrari in good hands free of charge, I can send it across Russia, but the shipment is at your expense. And yes, there will be no stone in Ferrareka. I took it apart for parts.
bukabuza
TatianaSa, Tatyanaand Ferrari has a big stone? I understand it can be replaced.
TatianaSa
Elena, a stone about 31 cm. The stove works flawlessly. The last time the pizza was baked in 3 minutes. I will not change. I don't have 2 stoves.I have already filled up the whole house with devices.
But, in my opinion, Bestron is better! Yes, and the girls asked about the stone, which I ordered in addition to Bestron. The answer is: this additional stone is MUCH better and better than the native one. The native stone will not darken and not be covered with spots. Bakes with a bang. On the site it was written about the backlash of this stone, such as a stone smaller than the intended hole for it. This is not true. He fell into place like a glove. My happiness has no boundaries. The purchase really pleased me.
selenа
TatianaSa, Tanyusha, how radically with Ferarka, as they say, you won't even leave "for giving"?
TatianaSa
Girls, she found her mistress
I do not have a summer residence, only a house on a collective farm, but it is littered with my stray
Bottling
TatianaSa, Congratulations on your purchase. I was very worried about you when your pizza maker with a cracked stone came. My employee also asks to order her a pizza maker, like mine (and I have a Ferrari), but after your case I’m even scared to order, because it costs a lot of money, she’ll come with such a marriage and then hang around with her. You can link where you ordered the bestron pizza.
irysikf
Quote: TatianaSa
And since I never learned how to upload photos. I won't be able to show you a comparison with a Ferrari with fantasy.
Tanya, well, it's not fair, but learn to insert pictures, right there the people will go all in ignorance After all, I want to look soooooooo
Ipatiya
Quote: TatianaSa
But, in my opinion, Bestron is better!

Tatyana, and it is possible in more detail, what is better?
TatianaSa
The round teng is a big plus. Steam vents are also a plus. Bestron's top cover has a space between the plates, as it were, for thermal insulation, and this is also a plus. I don't know how to put it right. Ferraraka has no such space. But ... the top cover of the ferrule has no backlash and is screwed, as it seems to me, better than that of the Bestron. Bestron has a backlash and I don't like it.
Girls, I rejoice at the additionally purchased stone as a child. It is VERY high quality. It's a pity that I don't know how to exhibit a photo, I would show it. If you do not mind the money for delivery, I highly recommend it.
Ipatiya
Tatyana, Thanks for clarifying! Can you give a link where you bought the stone? There must be a picture there.

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