TatianaSa
Only one weight keeps me from buying that the top cover will not let the pies rise.
Svetlana_Ni
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No, I'm wrong ... the casserole came out much tastier than in the oven !!! Why? I don’t know Maybe the cottage cheese is like that ... but it’s sooo tasty, and I’m picky
So is it all the same tastier? Well, of course, the point is in cottage cheese, why praise the stove? All the same, after all, they were planning to give Suddenly it will be a pity
TatianaSa
No, it won't ... I've already bought the bestron! ... on my way
Svetlana_Ni
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Only one weight keeps me from buying that the top cover will not let the pies rise.
Nope, the argument will not work. Look at Temko, there Masha Massinen baked mini bars Or maybe you shouldn't look
TatianaSa
Svetlana, I just have a midea ... you can set the temperature in it, but it's low, you can only have something thin in it. How about Brynzeski? Please give me a link to the loaves
Rada-dms
It is necessary to publish the height of the loaves themselves !!!
Rada-dms
Masinen, in which Bestron is lower than the Princesses (I have it, I managed to use it three times before leaving, until I can judge)?
Svetlana_Ni
Well, since the pizza sometimes directly rests on the ten and burns, it means that there is no ten below And there is no ten in the Prince. Am I right, Masha?
Rada-dms
Svetlana_NiIt seemed to me that Bestron is taller than Ferrari and others like them, because the Princesses are not taller than them! In general, they are all designed for flat baking! Which we all need too!
Svetlana_Ni
I was looking for a description of the Ferrari, I wanted to understand the height, I didn't find it I think they are of the same order of magnitude, pizza is not pies, these ovens teach how to make thin pizza And my edges sometimes knock out and stick to the heating element, I like chubby edges, but now I have to rebuild And the Princess does not have an open heating element, look what kind of buns they bake. Bestron's roof is not very low, but the heating oil still eats up the height.
Masinen
Girls, I baked bread in Bestron, but he ran into an open ten and traces remained. But it turned out very tasty.
And in the Princess, the ten is closed, that's all the beauty!
My Bestron is purely for pizza or thin bread cakes.
Rada-dms
Masinen, in Bestron, how many models are there, found only the 2008 model? Do you know if there were fresher versions?
Sens
Rada-dms, you are now in italy !!! can you buy us a ferrari and send it by mail to russia! ??
m0use
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Rada-dms, you are now in italy !!! can you buy us a ferrari and send it by mail to russia! ??
And for me Altas 150 with a motor! Dying-want-dough rolling
Lettera
Sens, m0use, are you ready to spend? I sent myself a parcel of 15 kg from Finland, it cost 140 euros by regular mail, sending an EMC cost 240 euros.
In Italy, mail is also expensive, and their website says that they don't send by regular mail, only EMC ...
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Although, maybe they have some other mail
Masinen
Rada-dms, that's what it says on mine
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Sens
Lettera, well, we will still buy Ferrari from abroad ... in any case, there will be expenses.
but what about from Germany up to 20 kg. costs 25 euros?
Mirabel
Does this question interest me too?
Lettera
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but what about from Germany up to 20 kg. costs 25 euros?
Sens, MirabelI don’t know, it’s a mystery to me too
I would either buy in Italy and take it myself, or in Germany with delivery. It is not for nothing that sellers from Italy either do not send to Russia, or they charge dearly for it.
On the website of the Finnish post you can download a document with tariffs, on the website of the Italian post I did not find any tariffs.
But EMC is always more expensive, and if only EMC packages are accepted ...
I'm still wondering what are the tariffs in Korea, if almost all Korean sellers send EMC for free?

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well, we will still buy ferraris from abroad ... anyway, there will be expenses.
For Lily, everything is more complicated, there delivery to Germany (EU), and already from her to Russia (at least I understood that)
Mirabel
In fact, there are a lot of different carriers from Germany - the premium package dynst. Maybe they charge so little for the postage. It seems that this company also works with us. I have Russian TV in my kitchen and there are always advertisements for German shops and so on. and I heard something like that - send a parcel to your loved ones back home at ridiculous prices.
Lettera
Still, I found the rates. If anyone is interested, the shipment is different, you can see it here:
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approximate prices, from 10 to 15 kg / from 5 to 10 kg:
EMC - 126 euros / 92e.
PCI - 166e. / 100.30e.
POE - 90.51e (46.85e-super simple) / 55.49 (33.66)
But only EMC is available, apparently because of our customs regulations adopted at the beginning of this year (or the end of last year, I don’t remember exactly)

Vika, I'm interested in something else, Germany is further than Finland, delivery is there and there by rail, why is there such a difference in prices?
Mirabel
ElenaWhy train? Not necessary at all. Low-cost airlines run across Europe, maybe they send with them ...
In general, parcels from us reach Moscow very quickly.
And the same German service, which I mentioned above, is also only aircraft.
Lettera
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Why train?
Because I tracked parcels from both KYU and Finland. The latter arrived at the Kazan station. And from Kyu, as a rule, customs go through Kaliningrad, and air mail - to Sheremetyevo
Vika, please find out about this German service, it might come in handy
Mirabel
Elena, I will definitely find out!
And our fucking belg mail doesn't show the whole track. Just to the Belgian border.
And now I remembered that some guys were taking parcels to Ukraine. That is, not just any, but a bus driver. They have such a business. The bag (box) costs, in my opinion, 20 euros and plus shipping across Ukraine.
When everything was quiet there, many sent parcels there at tolerable prices.
bukabuza
Girls tell me 360 ​​degrees for a pizza is enough or you need more to bake a pizza in 5 minutes.
TatianaSa
Better more, but that's my opinion.
Rada-dms
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Better more, but that's my opinion.
Better more !!! Then the pizza is cooked in 3-5 minutes, the crust is present, and the pizza itself is soft and bends, you can roll it into a tube, and the crust of the bottom will not crack! If the pizza is removed from the baking sheet (stone) with a monolithic rigid and non-sagging layer, then this is, to put it mildly, the wrong pizza.
win-tat
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I was looking for a description of the Ferrari, I wanted to understand the height, I didn't find it I think they are of the same order of magnitude, pizza is not pies, these ovens teach how to make thin pizza And my edges sometimes knock out and stick to the heating element, I like chubby edges, but now I have to rebuild

There is room for growth in Ferrari. I always bake fluffy pizza, well, they don’t like my thin one, it turns out like a pie ... I’m trying to slowly teach it to thin, but they don’t want to .. I haven’t photographed pizza for a long time, I dug up pictures from the archive ..

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TatianaSa
Tatyanavery nice pizza. Please give me a dough recipe
Svetlana_Ni
Tatyana, the pizza, however, is beautiful. Can I ask you to measure the height of the lid itself and the distance between the heating element and the roof, that is, at what distance from the roof is the heating element attached? At Bestron, the middle of the pizza can grow up, but the edges under the heating element itself do not turn out to be very high. Not that it sticks to the heating element in a circle, separate areas. Measure, if not difficult, please. Well, very interesting.
Rada-dms
Svetlana_Ni, and you could not, in turn, measure the distance to the shadow from Bestron at the edges and in the middle? That is still the real maximum height of the pie at the edges.
Svetlana_Ni
Rada-dms, and here I want to clarify these issues. I can only in the evening, now I'm at work, unfortunately. At least everyone else who has not yet purchased a stove will understand which stove is needed and for what.
win-tat
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Tatyanavery nice pizza. Please give me a dough recipe

Tatyana, the recipe is simple, in my opinion from the recipe book for the Panasonic bread machine.The dough is the most ordinary, I think it is thanks to the pizza maker it is so perforated, because the temperature there is very high, so it is probably bursting ...

Dry yeast 1.5 tsp
Flour 500g
Powdered milk 2 tbsp. l.
Salt 1.5 tsp
Sugar 0.5 tbsp. l.
Olive. oil 2 tbsp. l.
Water 300 ml

In the Panasonic bread maker the "Pizza" program - 45 min.
From this quantity of dough, 2 pizzas D = 30 cm are obtained

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Can I ask you to measure the height of the cover itself and the distance between the heating element and the roof, that is, at what distance from the roof is the heating element attached? At Bestron, the middle of the pizza can grow up, but the edges under the heating element itself do not turn out very high. Not that it sticks to the heating element in a circle, separate areas. Measure, if not difficult, please. Well, very interesting.

Sveta, I'm not at home now, I'll measure it in the evening.
win-tat
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The heating element is

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Here is a photo of the lid, I recently photographed it, here you can see that it is heating. the element is practically under the cover. But in the evening I will accurately measure.
TatianaSa
Tatyana, Thank you
TatianaSa
In Ferrari, fantasy is in the place where the heating element is attached to it 3 cm.
Today I did 2 focachi. The one that baked thinner faster, did not reach the heating element, did not burn. I did not set the temperature to the maximum, somewhere about 2.5 out of possible 3 (temperature adjustments). The dough, as I like it, like a pizza with a crispy crust and the ability to be wrapped in a roll. Well, it turned out very tasty. The second pizza was thicker and inferior in taste to the first. It was baked longer, the crust is crispy, but does not wrap in a roll, it breaks and is dry. I don't know what the correct focaccia should be
Rada-dms
Svetlana_Ni, well just !!!!!!!!!!
Svetlana_Ni
win-tat, Tatyana, also the height of the lid itself is more precise, please. In general, two sizes are needed. Ferrari has a lid, as it were, tapering towards the top, I understand correctly. Is the upper diameter significantly less than the diameter of the lower part of the lid? TatianaSa , 3 cm from the bottom edge of the lid, do I understand correctly? Then this is enough height for a pizza, even too much. I don’t know for focaccia, I haven’t baked it yet. Didn't you overexpose the second one? Rada-dms !!!!!
Rada-dms
TatianaSa, and baked how much? My Optima says that after clicking (the ten turned off after heating), you need to open the lid and keep it open until the ten turns on again, and only then lay the pizza for baking after turning on. Is it the same for you?
win-tat
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Tatyana, Thank you

TatianaSa, Tanyush
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win-tat, Tatyana, also the height of the lid itself is more precise, please. In general, two sizes are needed. Ferrari has a lid, as it were, tapering towards the top, I understand correctly. Is the upper diameter significantly less than the diameter of the lower part of the lid?

Shine, I understood about 2 sizes, I will measure. It is true about tapering upwards, the upper diameter is less than the lower one. Maybe because of this it does not burn, although the temperature is very high, because the lid itself is high, heat accumulates at the top and due to the sloping lid is evenly distributed over the entire surface ...

I also pulled it out of the archive (the cover is healthy) ..
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Svetlana_Ni
Yes, the cover from the photo seems to be high. Well sooooo high, I would say. It is necessary to arrange all the points, measure everything, otherwise the photo can also distort the real dimensions.
Rada-dms
m0use, Sens, in Sardinia, only swimsuits with rhinestones and lurid beads have seen so far. Here's something else for sale, only the haul will cost a lot I accept orders with one hundred percent prepayment

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Seriously though, I haven't really been to the city yet, but on a small tour. towns have nothing like that.
Tomorrow in the capital I will look at a large shopping center, what they sell
Rada-dms
Masinen, Masha, thank you very much! Just saw the photo, so there is only one model!
TatianaSa
Girls, how to insert a photo so that the size is as big as yours? I am yes, I'm slowing down
TatianaSa
Svetlana, It will be impossible to grow to the center, the teng is w-shaped, so it will burn and what should be the pastries to grow up unevenly? to the place where the heating element is attached from the base of the stone, 3 cm, so probably only lavash, pizza and some other cakes (I ate in Kabardino-Balkaria, they also put a lot of butter on top, they look like thin pancakes stuffed inside a pancake, i.e. not wrapped in a pancake, namely between two thin pancakes somehow fastened together, in general, it was delicious to me that my memory was completely knocked out).
TatianaSa
Ooooh, it hit me! : lol: it was khychiny!
Sens
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m0use, Sens, in Sardinia, only swimsuits with rhinestones and lurid beads have seen so far.
Seriously though, I haven't really been to the city yet, but on a small tour. towns have nothing like that.
Tomorrow in the capital I will look at a large shopping center, what they sell
with rhinestones, I would buy something for Chitusenka!
What city do you have shopping in?
Rada-dms
Sens, tomorrow we are going to Cagliari, actually, not for shopping, but for a walk, see the city, have dinner. Let's go to the bargain at the same time. center, something is forgotten at home, you need to buy. But I don't think that the stoves we longed for are in a row there !! I generally hate to shop !!! Although I collect designer jewelry!
Lucky for your Chitusenka !!!!! Give my regards to her !! I will write about rhinestones in my topic later!
Rada-dms
TatianaSa, gle khichins, who are khychins? We love it!

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