Giraffe
I specially turned it on, listened, it does not make noise.
pinochio
Quote: NatalyaP

the bread maker plugged into the socket makes noise, that is, you can hear something quietly humming inside.
There, besides the motor, there is nothing to hum. That is, does it turn on when you turn on the power? It shouldn't be like that. There can be many reasons, from the microprocessor to the switching / power supply circuits of the motor. When the motor is running, by all means (if the belt is normal), the pulley must turn, on which the baking container is placed.
NatalyaP
To the service? Sadly, practically new, I did not expect this from Panasonic (((.
oleger
NatalyaP, look at the voltage in the network when your HP is "quietly buzzing". For me, when above 235-240V (right now I don't remember exactly), simply plugged into the socket, hp buzzes louder than with a voltage of 215-225V. I cannot explain, because it is not special, but this fact took place. And do not rush to send equipment to the service on every occasion (if only you have a good friend working in this service) ..
* Anyuta *
Quote: NatalyaP

Such a stupid question - the bread maker plugged into the socket makes a noise, that is, you can hear something quietly humming inside ... I didn't seem to notice this before. I used it for about a month, every day. Is this the way it should be or will it be brought in for repair soon? Maybe I’m scared in vain, but the noise is very audible ...

you hear how the current "goes" through the network .... as they wrote above, this happens with different voltage in the network!
NatalyaP
Thanks for your feedback, I was so upset at first ...
Quote: oleger

NatalyaP, look at the voltage in the network when your HP is "quietly buzzing". For me, when above 235-240V (right now I don't remember exactly), simply plugged into the socket, hp buzzes louder than with a voltage of 215-225V. I cannot explain, because it is not special, but this fact took place. And do not rush to send equipment to the service on every occasion (if only you have a good friend working in this service) ..
The voltage is normal, there is a stabilizer.

Another would like to "listen" to another stove ...
oleger
What is the norm is a difficult question. The stabilizer begins to increase-decrease the voltage when there is a deviation of 10 or 15% (except for very expensive ones)
Add 10.15% to 220v ... After this threshold, most of the stubs begin to reduce the voltage. And my Chinese bulbs burn out already at 240v
pinochio
Quote: oleger

What is the norm is a difficult question.

oleger, do not powder the young lady's nose! Why would she know what ex. in the network, if there is a voltage stabilizer? It is much more important to know the exact number of ingredients in a loaf of bread.
Natasha, can you be scared in vain? These bread makers will give odds to many ovens. Look if the pulley is spinning when the cover is open. If not, and the stove works with dignity - I think there is no reason for concern, bake for health and do not think about the bad.
sazalexter
Bread maker SD-255, after 3.5 years of merciless operation, 1 bread per day at least, a bucket flowed when pouring water. I decided to order a new bucket with a stirrer assembly.
Rina
Quote: sazalexter

Bread maker SD-255, later 3.5 years merciless exploitation, 1 bread a day minimum, a bucket leaked when pouring water. I decided to order a new bucket with a stirrer assembly.
total at least 1280 full cycles "kneading-proofing-baking"
sazalexter
Rina In principle, you can use it, water in Panasonic is poured from the top.You can change the leaking unit 1650 rubles 🔗 you can shaman the knot yourself, but now there is no time to do this I decided to buy a bucket assembly
Rina
and what am I? I what? I'm nothing!

Sash, I just admire the number of pastries. After all, some "competitors" buckets flow and wedge after a few dozens cycles.
NatalyaP
Quote: oleger

What is the norm is a difficult question.The stabilizer begins to increase-decrease the voltage when there is a deviation of 10 or 15% (except for very expensive ones)
Add 10.15% to 220v ... After this threshold, most of the stubs begin to reduce the voltage. And my Chinese bulbs burn out already at 240v
my case is an expensive stabilizer on the dashboard for all power users.
Quote: pinochio


Natasha, can you be scared in vain? These bread makers will give odds to many ovens. Look if the pulley is spinning when the cover is open. If not, and the stove works with dignity - I think there is no reason for concern, bake for health and do not think about the bad.
It bakes well, and kneading and heating work as it should, the pulley does not spin without a program. Perhaps I shouldn't have been so worried: girl_red:
Olya Kimstach
We bought a Panasonic-2500 stove. The instructions say that the scapula should stand firmly, and ours "sits" freely, dangles. Is this normal or is it some kind of marriage?
lega
Quote: Olya Kimstach

We bought a Panasonic-2500 stove. The instructions say that the scapula should stand firmly, and ours "sits" freely, dangles. Is this normal or is it some kind of marriage?

This is not a marriage, but a design feature. There should be a slight backlash.
Olya Kimstach
Thank you very much! And then we were already upset and wanted to go to the store to change.
Natalie_RND
Good day everyone! I came to you for help and advice: we bought our bread maker the other day. chose for a long time, settled on the sd2501 model. bought, brought, got - big, beautiful. the whole family with children put the first bread and then, during the kneading, the stove began to creak. moreover, it squeaks precisely on effort, that is, when a dense kolobok is already beginning to form. a little later on the same day I put the dough for buns on the mode - I kneaded the softer dough. creaked less, but still creaked. could this be a feature of the new stove? (The husband says maybe the parts are rubbed in, because in the places where the bucket is attached to the stove, traces of mechanical friction are visible - a little metal crumbs, as it were, and they are also visible on the bucket itself.)
By the way, the bread turned out great the first time! although I managed to knock down the main program (I thought that by pressing the stop button I would pause it, but in the end I turned it off). had to be rearranged to the fast program - fortunately that there was a kneading stage. the bread is baked well.
what can you tell me?
and another question: the bucket is installed in place somehow suspiciously easily - completely effortlessly and it turns out that it is not particularly fixed - so for everyone?
Lagri
Quote: Natalie_RND

squeaks precisely on effort, that is, when a dense bun is already beginning to form. a little later on the same day I put the dough for buns on the mode - I kneaded the softer dough. creaked less, but still creaked.
Natalie_RND, congratulations on your new assistant! Let the x / stove serve you for a long time and make you happy with its wonderful pastries! The X / stove you purchased is really very good.
I think that the bun was very dense, and the stove creaked. I once kneaded a dense bun, so the spatula would stop altogether and I, frightened, now do not knead the tough dough, but only according to acceptable recipes.
Quote: Natalie_RND

and another question: the bucket is installed in place somehow suspiciously easily - completely effortlessly and it turns out that it is not particularly fixed - so for everyone?
This is how it should be: set easily and turned 30 degrees clockwise. Good luck to you!
Rina
I will not say about the squeak. Our experts on the floor will catch up. parts will prompt. The rights Lаgri, the gingerbread man should not be dense, but by its softness resembling a woman's breast, cheek, butt of a child, belly of a sleeping cat (optional).

And about the installation of the bucket - this is a design feature of Panasonic, the form is set and fixed due to the force of gravity, which never goes anywhere.
That is why I will not consider other stoves for myself and will not, if I suddenly have to change the stove. I have a yunold in which the bucket is fixed - you need to put it, press it and turn it to fix it in the grooves. So this bread maker cannot be left unattended - the form all strives to fly off the seat.
Lagri
Quote: Rina

the bucket is fixed - you need to put it in, press it and turn it to fix it in the grooves. So this bread maker cannot be left unattended - the form all strives to fly off the seat.
I also have with Moulinex: the bucket "everything strives to fly off the seat." So I, too, am afraid to leave it alone when mixing. There was one - the bucket jumped off, and, naturally, rubbed against the piece of iron holding the ten. Now there are dents on the outside of the bucket. Panasonic, of course, has a more reliable design.
oleger
I have 2501. Also creaks sometimes. And it is fixed loosely ... after a year of operation, 2 times a week.
sazalexter
Natalie_RND If you are confused by a knock, you can make a gasket, as it was on a forum with a closed topic. And it's a creak from the belt. The bucket mount in Panasonic is bayonet, and today it is the most reliable.
Natalie_RND
Thanks everyone for the answers!
sazalexter, I'm not confused by the knock - there is no knock at work, I am confused by the periodic creaking when kneading the bun.
Today I set the regime on French bread - there were much less and quieter squeaks than yesterday (it can be seen that the dough was really cool), but they were all the same. the creak seems to come from the middle of the bucket. from below or from above I do not understand.
you write that the squeak from the belt - and what to do about it in the new bread maker then? what is it?
honestly, it's very insulting - they chose for so long, decided not to skimp, to spend money on a good bakery and on you ... I don’t understand whether to score on these creaks, or to carry a new stove to the service.

and another question arose: during baking ten all the time "clicks" as if switching on and off - so it should be?
Lagri
Quote: Natalie_RND

French bread mode - the squeaks were much less and quieter than yesterday (it can be seen that the dough was really cool), but still they were. the creak seems to come from the middle of the bucket. from below or from above I do not understand.

I do not understand whether to score on these creaks, or to carry a new stove to the service.
Well x / the stove does not work very quietly. Don't be too upset in advance. Maybe not so scary creaks. And to the service center to carry a new stove, I think it's not worth it for now because of this (otherwise they will disturb something else, having disassembled it). Knead not tough dough (according to recipes, using an electronic scale) and everything will be OK. I've overloaded Moulinex with a steep dough (very ... it just happened), so the belt fell off the x / stove.
lega
Quote: Natalie_RND

and another question arose: during baking ten all the time "clicks" as if switching on and off - so it should be?

Yes, it is normal.
Lagri
Quote: Natalie_RND

during baking ten all the time "clicks" as if turning on and off
This relay is activated and the heating element heats up.
Gray Bim
A lot of clever things are written in this thread, thanks. However, there is a question for the owners of Panasonic 2501 and for other connoisseurs, I have a stove for 6 months, I recently noticed that there are white things inside, probably the temperature sensors have turned brown in places, as if they had been at a very high temperature. People, answer it all this way, or are we on fire ??? Do I need to do something, or "it will pass by itself" ....
sazalexter
Gray Bim White stuff, these are ceramic heater holders. Everything in HP gets dark over time, including them
Gray Bim
sazalexter :: rose: oh and okay, they calmed me down, otherwise I wanted to clean it with a detergent, thank you for your prompt reply!
mowgli
and the sensors opposite? After a year, my crusts became lighter than before
Andrzej nov
Gray Bim White things

Ha a pun, however ..
sazalexter
Quote: mowgli

and the sensors opposite? After a year, my crusts became lighter than before
The sensor is such a pimp covered with a metal casing like a button
Andrzej nov
Actually, here it is, the sensor, hiding ...
Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns
Gray Bim
Andrzej nov, very clearly shown, I will now be 0.000000001% more enlightened in technology, thank you!
Rina
Let me remind you that a simple "thank you" in the topic can be removed by reducing the number of messages for greater readability of the topic. If you liked the recipe or was given useful information, click "Thanks" under the avatar of the forum user to whom you are grateful.Such gratitude will last forever.
Gray Bim
I had to return to this topic a second time, since a question arose about a shovel for rye bread in x \ n Panasonic 2501, I used it for the first time and it bent, or rather its teeth bent, they baked bread with 40% rye flour, the stove did not strain too much, what's wrong,? and how to fix it?
Lagri
I also had a similar one, so we "fixed" it with the help of a palm and a wooden board; the spouse put the teeth of the shoulder blade on the board and gently pressing the shoulder blade with his palm, straightened it. I read about this method on another forum. I don’t know for how long, but I rarely use it. I read on the forums that this often happens ...
Sar13
Dear owners of Panasonic SD-253 bread makers. Help resolve doubts. Cotton has been plowing for several years. Rye bread still doesn't work out. When the rye mode is selected, the display shows 5 hours of cooking. However, in the instructions for cotton, the time for rye is indicated at 3 hours 30 minutes. And how are you? In the authorized service center, after 3 months of "humming", they could not give an intelligible answer: is this the reason for the poor-quality rye bread (earlier, the same servicemen did not give me an answer: why, after replacing one of the control units, I lost the "jam" program: when choosing modes, only 7 programs are displayed, in this part it is too late to make claims - a lot of time has passed since the repair). Thanks in advance everyone
Andrzej nov
You have a module installed from a different model ..
Sar13
And I'll try to "wrestle" with the service center. The law, of course, is on their side (after all, a lot of time has passed after the renovation), but the truth is on mine (they actually deceived me)
Giraffe
Good luck!
Andrzej nov
Maybe they just did what they could. The model of the stove is old, spare parts Yok, end up put what they found ??
DenRassk
I can’t understand the color of the crust in 2501.
Before that there was Supra 355 and everything was logical - light is almost white, medium is a little fried, dark is heavily fried.
At 2501, on average, it turns out to be very fried (as on dark on Supra), and on light - a little less, but still it seems to me that it could be lighter. It seems that when setting up, they missed on and put medium instead of light, and dark instead of medium, that it is even scary to put instead of dark there - I guess.

I watched pictures of bread on the forum - the bread of normal color has a crust on the bread, but it fries somehow strongly.

Is it possible to twist the thermal sensor there or move it closer to the shadows?
* Anyuta *
Quote: DenRassk


I watched pictures of bread on the forum - the bread of normal color has a crust on the bread, but it fries somehow strongly.

Is it possible to twist the thermal sensor there or move it closer to the shadows?

The color of the crust also depends on the components that you put in the HP .. If you add more sugar, for example, then the bread will look more fried ...
Lagri
Quote: DenRassk

Before that there was Supra 355 and everything was logical - light is almost white, medium is a little fried, dark is heavily fried.
At 2501, on average, it turns out to be very fried (as on dark on Supra), and on light - a little less, but still it seems to me that it could be lighter. It seems that when setting up, they missed on and put medium instead of light, and dark instead of medium, that it is even scary to put instead of dark there - I guess.
Here I have the same story with Moulinex 502430, I also suffer, and in Panasonic 2502 everything is fine with any baking components. I think that not always all x / stoves are equally good - sometimes they are like ours, maybe some collector has screwed up. I think you don't need to twist anything. I read that they turn this "regulator" screw in the event that the bread is very light, and if, on the contrary, it is fried, it will not work. I've tried it. The result - as it was, it remains. The service could not fix it either.
DenRassk
Quote: * Annie *

... If you add more sugar, for example, the bread will look more browned ....
No, with sugar, everything is fine - I fall asleep as expected, I make bread, not sweet buns
DenRassk
Quote: Lagri

... I've tried. The result is that it remains as it was. The service also could not fix it.
Too bad ... is it a marriage or an individual feature?
* Anyuta *
Quote: DenRassk

No, everything is fine with sugar - I fall asleep as expected, I make bread, not sweet buns

You are not told about the type of vape, but about the use of MILK, SUGAR (AS AN EXAMPLE) as a color scheme!!!!
Rina
Den, you have a stove for a little over a week. Perhaps a break-in is in progress. In addition, in my experience, for example, Panasonic's bread color turns out to be more saturated than in the German Yunold (I even sinned that the Yunold is designed for a slightly higher voltage in the network). It is possible that the supra is more "slow moving". What recipe do you use to bake wheat bread?
Lagri
Quote: DenRassk

Too bad ... is it a marriage or an individual feature?
Well. of course, this is a manufacturer's flaw and I don't think it's an individual feature. Many have such a x / stove and have no complaints. I'm just less fortunate than others)). My x / stove is already 2 years old, it is very good and I like it. I struggle with the color of the crust: I put only the light one, and I don't think about the other, so as not to upset myself once again (I can't fix it). Good luck!

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