Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

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Disassemble the bread maker and see what rumbles. The whole disassembly is a five-minute affair, six screws on the top, four on the bottom and two or three from the cord. If the bushing is worn out, there will be traces of friction on the bottom cover and fine plastic dust from the drive pulley. For a more detailed inspection, you need to remove the drive belt and turn it manually. I described the posts above for replacing the bush with bearings.

I am 60 years old, and my grandfather is so lazy that I would rather take it to the service. Thanks for the advice.

what's the point? Lorik herself will not change the pulleys and bushings. Lorik13, if it's not a bun knocking at you, or a very thick rye dough grunts, then you'll have to go to the service.

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Well, at least explain in words. Doesn't knock without a bucket? And knocks with a bucket? The drive has collapsed in a bucket, carefully inspect it and repair / change it and you do not need to disassemble the stove or drag it to the workshop.

It seems that it is hard to knead the oven, ordinary wheat bread is baked, although it is 600 g of flour large, I will try less flour.

[Lorik13]

Lorik13, you pull out the bucket altogether and turn on an empty typewriter on the Pizza or Fast main program. There, the mixing goes immediately and you will hear how quietly the machine works without load.
If it does not rattle, then insert the bucket, and in the bucket with handles, a silicone or wooden spatula, knead LIQUID !!!!! I LIH soft like jelly from at least 100 g of flour and a lot of water, you can even 100 g of flour and 90 -110 g of water. Turn on pizza or Fast main and listen. If it knocks on a soft liquid, there is a problem. Examine the bucket.

And if there is no knocking without a bucket and on a soft liquid, then you are kneading the dough too STEP in consistency. Perhaps not just need to take 550 g of flour there, but pour more water. Make the dough softer.
When mixing open the lid, look at what's in the bucket. Is it easy to knead there, or is the machine tormented on a steep dough.
See how the mixer moves, whether it scratches the bucket, do not be afraid to open the lid in the process and watch and listen to everything.



I saw your message right here
Borodino bread breaks. Why? #eleven
you have 600 grams of flour and 370 grams of water, and you are complaining about a torn roof. I dare to assume that the problem is very cool knead and even at a maximum of flour. The machine is tormented. For many types of flour, this is a very tough dough. As a rule, less than 390 g is now rarely found even on very weak flour. And for my flour, I do not take less than 400-420 g of water.
Most likely, you need to give more water to soften the dough. Check this by looking under the lid when kneading.
And if you make a strong rye dough, then it would be good to reduce the total amount of dough, that is, to count on a smaller amount of flour, well, there is about 500 g at least.
That is, give less load, slightly reduce flour, and pour water until a soft dough is obtained.

This is the fifth time it is proposed to pull out the bucket or insert an empty one - the reaction is zero. Apparently the word "bucket" is not printed on the addressee.

I looked at an empty bucket and without a bucket and made a video, but I can't insert a video. She (the oven) makes a heavy kneading, empty just as it should be buzzing with a bucket louder, and when revenge then rattles heavily. Thanks everyone. I will wait when it will completely stop working then for repairs. I just thought maybe where to oil it I could, but the other thing that I do not understand. I'll try to make the dough weaker, but I haven't baked rye for a long time.

[Lorik13]

Lorik13, you most likely need strong make the dough weaker, that is, softer. You have 370 water, and I would give all 420 on my own flour.Big difference.
I sit and laugh. you so want to take the stove for repair, but here we are trying to persuade you not to do it
However, if you do not figure out the consistency of your dough, continue to torment the stove with a steep kneading, then your ardent wish will come true.

Open the lid - check the batch, and not just slightly increase the water without looking. Make the dough soft for the machine. It doesn't matter what kind of flour. The dough should be soft for the machine.

And the truth is, try the batch not very cool to run. Digging won't help. The knocking comes from the drive pulley slipping from excessive force. Therefore, it is correct to advise less flour and more liquid.
Good luck to you!

If the pulley slips, it is because it burst in the seat. I had a problem like this. It can be repaired very simply, with super glue the crack itself, and then over it with cold welding.

Friends, such a problem, today after baking a cake (well not bread), after washing the mold, I found out that the mechanism at the base of the mold does not scroll, there seems to be some kind of burn inside, I unscrewed three screws, removed the lower landing base, with a needle in the slots I worked, but still nothing is spinning, in general, if I baked bread, then a breakdown would surely have happened. Who can tell how to remove the burn from the inner cylinder? Can I put it in the water or is there a parsing option?

To begin with, put a bucket of warm water for about 15 minutes, everything should go away, and if there is water under the bucket, then the oil seal is worn out.

[Vasic]

Vasic, that is, you need to pour water into the form itself, and I have already unscrewed it and held it in a glass, now everything is spinning perfectly. Back when I installed it, I screwed it up tightly, but then I will pour more water and check the density. Where did it come from so much, I don’t understand, this is probably flour? I also removed the bottom cover, there was also a lot of "garbage" there, cleaned it, I'll check it tomorrow at work.

Sergei. According to your description, the conclusion follows that the oil seal has worn out, flour gets when baking bread, and when you baked a cake, batter got into the drive.

[Sergei]

Sergei, We have a theme https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&topic=402685.0# read, but I do not advise you to change the oil seal, just rinse, remove the crackers from the oil seal cavity, fill with new HP300 grease, straighten the black plastic washer, collect and go. Panasonic's oil seals are not killed

[Vasic]

Vasic,

According to your description, the conclusion follows that the oil seal has worn out, flour gets in when baking bread, and when you baked a cake, batter got into the drive.

I don't know how it all got there, today before baking the bread I poured water into the mold and left it for 10 minutes, there was no leakage.
sazalexter, damn it, but I did not pay attention to this topic, it turns out that the drive needs to be set according to the tags, tomorrow I will analyze and check it again. Today I baked rye bread, I wonder if, when assembling, the marks did not coincide with me, could this affect the work during kneading?

P.S. And what was clogging me, I remembered that somehow after baking, when I cleaned the mold, I passed the sharp tip of the knife around the circumference of the black rubber gasket, maybe because of this I started to miss the gland. I still had no idea that there was a rubber seal and a gasket installed. Live and learn.

And what was clogging me, I remembered that somehow after baking, when I cleaned the mold, I passed the sharp tip of the knife around the circumference of the black rubber gasket, maybe because of this I started to miss the gland. I still had no idea that there was a rubber seal and a gasket installed. Live and learn.

Better not to pick anything there, especially with a knife. Several years ago, the bucket drive shaft began to wedge. As it turned out, the thrust washer was burnt to the bronze bushing, but the shaft continued to rotate with difficulty. And it should sit firmly on the shaft and rotate with it, between two plastic washers. I had to change the entire bucket drive. Therefore, only lubrication of this unit (inside the silicone oil seal) can save you from trouble and unnecessary costs.

[CrenDel]

CrenDel,

As it turned out, the lock washer was burnt to the bronze bushing, but the shaft continued to rotate with difficulty.

Which of the details is in the photo?

Today I again unscrewed the lower base, my oil seal in a metal rim came off with it, then I removed the retaining ring, flywheel and two washers, but then I decided not to touch anything, then I put it back together.
P.S. Now I'll take a note, check the rotation after each bake.

[CrenDel]

CrenDelWhich of the details is in the photo?

Today I again unscrewed the lower base, my oil seal in a metal rim came off with it, then I removed the retaining ring, flywheel and two washers, but then I decided not to touch anything, then I put it back together.
P.S. Now I'll take a note, check the rotation after each bake.

This is such a shaped stainless steel washer, which must firmly fit into the groove on the shaft and rotate with the shaft between two plastic washers.
Our lock washer is 12.3mm outside diameter and 0.8mm thick. Such washers can be found in hardware stores.
P.S .: In the photo, where the complete disassembly is, to the left of the drive housing are the parts that are on top, and on the right are the parts that are below

then with the sharp tip of the knife along the circumference of the black rubber gasket passed

It is absolutely impossible to do this, the dough remains there and the dog is with him, this does not affect the work of the HP

Good day!
The last half of the year the bread has stopped rising. I changed flour, yeast, I always bake according to one recipe, ordinary white bread with milk. If before bread was high, now it is long. When standing, it rises poorly, it seems to me, I took out a bucket, put my hand in and I don't feel the warmth; ten hot from all sides, but not scalding, you can touch. That is how it should be? The inside of the bread maker is cold, there is no heat during standing. Previously, everything worked out and I did not pay attention to the ten and how it warms. So does everyone have a feeling of warmth inside HP while standing?
It bakes in time as usual, clicks, the shadows turn red, then turn off; Can the ten or the sensor not work on a certain program, or if it breaks, then completely? Can't find the reason, please help.
I haven't wore it to the service center yet, I'm really looking forward to an answer on this situation

[Angela]

Angela, if you doubt the operation of the stove, then:

Well, firstly, there is a test mode, you can run it and check the temperatures using a thermometer.
"Warm" rise of the test in the Panasonic SD-2501 service mode
and Panasonic SD-255 TEST MODE
Start this mode and measure the temperatures with a Chinese inexpensive thermometer. They must correspond to those specified in the Panasonic Service Manual. You did not indicate your model, so I give general information. This service manual is not a problem to download, but in the above topics, it is shown on your fingers how to figure it out.
Secondly, it seems to me that you still have a problem with the ingredients. You would follow the process at every step. Knead it - climbed into the bucket and saw that the bun was soft. If you have a dense bun, the bread will not rise. Bread came out for proofing. Observe how the bread rises throughout the entire regime.
And then maybe the yeast does not work at all, or, conversely, over-proving before baking. At the same time, touch the dough, you will immediately understand whether it is cold or pleasantly warm. If the dough is pleasantly warm and not growing, the problem is not in the oven.

What else ... you've been writing about the last six months.
The last six months have been winter and battery heating. Perhaps your apartment is very warm and the stove is in summer mode. Above 24, it does long standing, short kneading and fermentation.
Observe the main mode. Does the batch start in half an hour or in an hour?
If in an hour - summer mode. And on it, the errors of the ingredients are especially noticeable. If the bun is tight, for example.
I love to deceive mine even in summer: I put a cold product from the refrigerator to the tenu before turning on the stove, so that the tenu cools down and does not give me summer mode. I don't like him.

That is: the summer regime can give you such a picture, because you have something wrong with the ingredients. Kneading a kolobok of poor consistency (the flour can be very dry in season), the milk could deteriorate in quality and spoil your gluten - in addition, it would be good to take sterilized or baked milk, even very good milk is depressing. Yeast can be bikotted.
Follow through all stages.

Well, so that the stove does not stand in a draft, by the cold window. The lid should be without gaps. A stove with strong external cooling and drafts will not cope.

Thanks for the quick response. Model 2511; I already managed to go to the service center, the master looked, turned on the programs, said that these are failures in the electronics itself, that is, it does not keep the temperature on the rise, but everything is ok on baking. He also said that it is better when the ten completely breaks down, then it can be replaced; and if there is a failure in the system, he cannot do anything and did not take it for repairs.
The gingerbread man is rising to room temperature, but not cold either. You can't call it warm for sure

is the master competent? a strange diagnosis and refusal to take a faulty stove for repair. If the stove is faulty, it must be repaired, replaced, if it is not your fault and the service life has not expired. Not a guarantee, but an operation.
The oven must be repaired during its lifetime.
Call the central service center and make them fulfill their obligations. The technique is not cheap.

But does that happen? fermentation failure? Did the master do the measurements? or by eye said and kicked off? If he's right, get a repair.

The master did not take any measurements, he launched the program, saw that the ten was heated slightly and that was all. And he said that they had already addressed him with just such a problem, but he could not help with anything. Now I am trying kneading on the program "dumplings", the bun on this program is warm, in contrast to the 01 program; Then I'll put the program on 02 and see what happens. It may really be that 01 program is not working.

[Angela]

Angela, I asked our specialist to help you with advice. As soon as he reads the letter, he will answer you.

[Angela]

Angela, so if you could measure the temperature of your ten on the problem program, you could compare it with ours and tell you for sure whether it is small or not. They will heat, but in the "winter mode" I already mentioned the summer mode. If the stove starts the program in an hour, and not after half an hour, then warm up not will be practically. The stove believes that the room is warm enough and there is no need to heat. If the room is above 24 degrees, the stove practically does not heat.

But they just puzzled about the dumplings. From what Budun there is a warm bun? there the shadows should NEVER warm up at all.

sorry, I had a program - pizza, then I put on dumplings, because I added more flour and needed to knead. At first I sinned that my kolobok was dense, immediately when loading the liquid I added a little more than usual, but at the bottom there was a little dough and did not collect into a whole kolobok. Then I didn't look what and how, but 15 minutes ago I looked in - my bun was up very well, as in the old days. Now I have set the separate Baking program for 55 minutes and am waiting for the result. But naturally, the lid fell, as cold air came in when it was opened. But we can definitely say that on the main 01, ten does not heat as well as on pizza, well, how can this be, I myself do not understand. On pizza I open and feel warm, on 01 program it's cold inside (
I also took pictures, tomorrow I will read how to insert it on the site. Thank you for your help, I will be glad to hear from the master.
I have 23 degrees in my apartment, I did not notice the downtime after loading. Tomorrow I will turn on idle program 01 and note the time before the batch starts.
Thank you very much,

pizza, quick programs and dumplings are independent of the room temperature. They are always the same, the pizza will be heated at 35 in the room and immediately. Therefore, you should not be guided by them.
The rest of the programs with standing work according to a complex algorithm and have different modes.Previously, there were two "summer-winter to 24 and above 24", and, starting with your model, it became, according to the picture from Panasonic, even one more to 24, from 24 to 29, above 29.
Therefore, it is even necessary to compare the indicators at similar temperatures in the room and in similar modes in HP.
The machine heats well only when the room is "cold".
Track the beginning of the program and name the degrees exactly. Kneading degrees, fermentation degrees.
Then you can talk about something.

Of course, when the master has recognized the malfunction, you should not flatter yourself. But what if, all of a sudden, the master turned out to be incompetent?

I changed flour, yeast, I always bake according to one recipe, ordinary white bread with milk.

Change flour and yeast to another manufacturer and bake without milk in water, see the result

The oven must be repaired during its lifetime.

This is a delusion, sometimes it is economically impractical to repair, the price of the control board is quite high. But it seems to me that the problem is not in the hardware

Change flour and yeast to another manufacturer and bake without milk in water, see the result


This is a delusion, sometimes it is economically impractical to repair, the price of the control board is quite high. But it seems to me that the problem is not in the hardware

Good day,
The problem is still in the hardware; just an intelligent master is not in my city; tried one more time on the French program; rose badly at all, baked inside, but knocked down and white, just barely turned yellow and that's it (I'm not a master, but I understand the problem, if the ten is warming, he is a worker; but most likely the matter is in the relay that turns on and off this ten, and in the sensor.
As a result, I bought the zp2000 model yesterday, the same yeast, the same flour, everything that I used for the 2511. Everything went up, baked, everything is wonderful.
If you teach me how to insert a photo, I can provide a photo report)
Thanks everyone for the help)

If you teach how to insert a photo

13. How to insert a photo from the Gallery?
Clause 13
There is a separate topic for your new stove. Post pictures there
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...444.0

Hello, I have a broken plastic part in the dispenser for dried fruits, etc. This is the lock / holder of the lower base of the dispenser, in general, I somehow glued it with superglue, but this glue corrodes the plastic, if the temperature affects the gluing during baking, it will fall apart again. While I took out the dispenser from the bread machine and without it, the oven is used. I was thinking about how to replace this lock, but I haven't found anything yet, maybe there is an option to find and change this element to a new one? Who faced this kind of breakdown?

[Sergei]

SergeiIf the superglue has melted the seam, it will stick. The latch is not sold separately, only assembled with a dispenser, we have a separate topic for this part https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=487464.0

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,

If the superglue melts the seam, it will stick.

there I tried to bake it once, after it fell off, I glued it the second time. It's just that when baking ordinary bread at the end of baking, the HP automatically opens the dispenser for dried fruits every time, so now I bake without a dispenser.

The latch is not sold separately, only assembled with a dispenser, we have a separate topic for this part

Well, I read the discussion in the topic, there is a lock made of stainless steel by someone who bought it from far abroad.

Good evening. Relatives have a Panasonic SD-2500 bread maker. Recently it began to junk. The program starts normally, but then at some point the display goes out and the stove turns off, and after a while it turns on and continues on its own. It can normally knead the bread and then pass out and after a few hours the baking will turn on. And there are days when everything works fine. What could it be, where to dig?

[Galina]

Galina, start with nutrition.

[Gingi]

Gingi, it is very likely that there is no contact periodically. Check the outlet.

start with nutrition.

I also thought that somewhere the contact was leaving. I suggested that they be rearranged in a different place and connected directly to an outlet without an extension cord. It only bothers me that it has been in this place for a long time and worked perfectly, and only recently it periodically fades. Relatives are addicted to homemade bread and do not want to eat any more. They always put it at night, but now there is no confidence in the result, then everything is fine, and maybe leave without bread.

[Galina]

Galina, if the connection is through an extension cable, then it is quite possible that the problem is in it. The overwhelming majority of extension cords are designed for a very small current. And just over time, the contact can burn out. So the first thing to do is change the electrical connection. Either plug directly into an outlet or through another extension cord.

The kneading blade has broken, there is also a second one without teeth, but unpleasant ...
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[Irina]

Irina, Hello!

I have never read here on the forum that someone's blade breaks There have been cases of a hundred teeth bent, but to break

Tell me, what kind of dough was usually kneaded with this spatula?
At what composition did it break?

I regularly knead Darnitsky with this spatula. At least once a week for 5 years. The teeth are slightly bent in the direction of travel. But not much.

Girls, boys, I don't know, can I ask.
2511 just came to me. I just started making bread. While baked 2 times. I am very worried about the stove, although everything is fine. I read about koloboks and so on. The topic is generally very extensive, I can't cover everything at once, I read on the sly. What do you, experienced users, advise me NOT TO DO, so that it would work longer. I started to read the thread, here I am considering specific problems, or where can I ask? I read the instructions.
While in the arsenal of tips -1. remove the dispenser, so that it would not be warmed up again (it seems like this is better for its plastic) and 2. Do not lean on preserves and jams - fruits in syrup (then I will not cook them here at all). 3. Salt-sugar (additives are hard) can scratch the bucket (I decided to dissolve it in liquid)
While the algorithm is not on autopilot, I want to get used to it correctly. Thank you

[Marina]

Marina, try to comply with the parameters specified by the manufacturer for installing HP, so that there is space around.
In the instructions, everything is drawn and painted.
Our friends also have HP Panasonic, they stood where they climbed, right between other devices. Due to the lack of air circulation, their HP led the cover from overheating and a decent gap formed.
That is, the distance around HP is important!

[Waist]

Waist, I remember about the distance - therefore, it stands while working on the floor, so that there would be a place. I studied the instructions, I thought, maybe there are some moments during operation, (so as not to do something), so as not to spoil my assistant ...

Natalya, the shoulder blade was slightly bent towards the batch. I never make the dough cool. In the morning, she kneaded the dough for garlic dumplings for me, and after lunch, when she was kneading the dough on the dumplings, she heard idle revolutions, opened it - and there the teeth were in the dough, and the nozzle itself was spinning on the pin. I already called the service center and said they will order to unsubscribe. Do not buy a new HP because of the scapula

[Irina]

Irina, oh, that's where I found you. and we are hungry there without you,