Anastasia
Quote: spikelet

Of course, I will clarify in the SC. But, if HP does not have a shock absorber and it should rattle so much, then this is a drawback of this model. The backlash should have a reasonable limit.
You have it, judging by your first description, and is reasonable. I have the same. The dough recipes are all different - there is thicker, there is softer. As a result, more or less rumbling may occur.
Shurenysh
It rattles me, especially when the kolobok is tough, but it doesn't bother me. There was no gasket initially. Indeed, if you put bread on at night, then it is better to close the door - I wake up. And the bread is great! Rumbling does not affect the quality :-)
spikelet
I will not strain myself, since such a thing. But still, this bumpiness is a disadvantage. Panasonic is a specialist in electronics and everything is on the level here. And the gasket would not hurt, in fact there is in other models.
Thanks everyone.
Elena Bo
spikelet, a very dense spikelet when kneading, hence the rumble. Make the bun softer. You didn't hear the other HPs rattle
spikelet
I'll try it softer, thanks.
Caprice
Quote: Elena Bo

You didn't hear the other HPs rattle
At first, Spikelet in the first post did not indicate that it was about Panasonic.
And secondly, my HP has been with me for more than a year and a half and does not rattle, hums to itself quietly when mixing, without disturbing anyone. But it has a shock absorber.
Elena Bo
Caprice, there are no claims to you, as well as to your HP. But there are cars on the rumble of which forum users constantly complain. My Panasonic also works quietly, but if the dough is steep, then the kolobok beating against the walls rattles.
Anastasia
Quote: Caprice

At first, Spikelet in the first post did not indicate that it was about Panasonic.

And the question is in the Panasonic section.
Svetik S
My Panasonic also began to work LOUDER after a month of work, but it does not bother me
Probably this is their peculiarity ...
spikelet
The consultants in the Panasonic information center and in the Panasonic SC unambiguously assigned me to take her to the SC. There should not be any bumping and knocking of the bucket.
Larissa 888
Spikelet, so what about your HP? What did the SC say? I have HP for a month, I always put bread baking on the timer. But today for the first time I woke up at night from a roar. The fact that there is a backlash is okay. The dough beats against the sides of the bucket with a crash, this is the first thing. And second, there is some kind of creak. She took out the dough from the bucket - the creaking stopped. I put the dough in place, and the creak appeared again. Owners of Panasonic answer! The presence of a squeak when kneading the dough, is this normal? I turned on the empty HP in the morning, it worked quietly and almost silently.
Lenusya
sometimes it creaks and rattles slightly when the dough is tight.
torturesru
There is a slight noise and creak, but there should be no roar. Maybe the dough got too tight, though ... Has the speed of rotation of the scapula changed? It's strange ... I have 3 stoves and not one of these gives out, can the guarantors strain, while there is a guarantee, let them think?
Larissa 888
Quote: torturesru

I have 3 stoves and not one of them gives out this,
Forgive me for the immodest question, why do you need so many stoves? Just don't be offended, it's really interesting.
torturesru
Why should I be offended? We have them in my apartment, in the apartment of my wife and in the country house, where my mother lives for 8 months. We almost never buy store bread. As a result, two 253 and one 255 are checked :)
Jappi
I don’t know what the "glitch" is, but my Panasonic SD-253 oven lacks the "jam" function ...

everything is very suspicious, because the instructions about this function are written and the stove has the word "jam" in the list of modes ...but!!! when the mode is selected, the stove skips this function: after selecting the "gluten-free" mode, the "main" mode is selected again ...

what to do? Is it a factory marriage or what? just me?

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Andreevna

You have puzzled me. This is the first time I've met this. The jam function works for me and for three other friends of mine.
Aglo
Try slowly, counting the button presses, to switch programs. After the eighth press, the program "jam" should be.
If not, then marriage. Or the stove was not intended for Russia (gray delivery) and must be replaced by the seller, as it does not correspond to the attached documentation.
Katyastrophe
Hello everyone!
They gave me a Panasonic 255 bread maker for my birthday. I am delighted with it !!!
But unfortunately I did not have time to enjoy it with might and main. One day I discovered that someone had scratched the bucket - I was not at home and my family had to get ready bread. They used a knife. The scratches are deep. After that, I baked bread once - it turned out to be unimportant: it was too dense, did not rise. In my opinion, due to scratches, he could not get up, so he had to bake a little ...

Do you think it is possible to do something with my bucket or should I buy a new one? If it's new, then where can you buy it in Moscow - maybe who knows?

Thanks in advance to everyone!
Lush and delicious bread for everyone!
Bee
The scratches are not to blame for the failure of your bread. The bucket, of course, is worth ordering a new one at the service center. But you can try to find a used one. Maybe someone's stove is broken and cannot be repaired. So, on one of the forums, a person whose mixer broke in Panasonic was helped by a person whose stove broke and the blade was not needed. Look to see if you're lucky.
skimdw
If the scratches are not very deep, then it's okay. Our Panasonic is already more than 2 years old, the bucket is pretty scratched, and the stirrer, repeatedly forgotten in the loaf - ZVERSKI is cut with a toothed knife))). And everything is perfectly mixed and baked.

P.S. but the spare bucket has not bothered anyone yet.

P.P.S. we use a thin teflon pad (taken from the frying pan) to make it easier to pick out the bread.
Boo Boo
skimdw, it's strange, usually in Panasonic the agitators don't get stuck in the bread and the bread from the bucket always shakes out well.
skimdw
Quote: BooBoo

skimdw, it's strange, usually in Panasonic the agitators don't get stuck in the bread and the bread from the bucket always shakes out well.

So I'm not saying that this happens to me all the time, but it happens that the spatula gets stuck and the bread does not want to be shaken out
Katyastrophe
When I bake bread, I always try to be near when the baking process is over, because the instructions say that leaving it in a bucket is harmful - the bread will shrink. Therefore, when one day I was not at home, I asked to get some bread.

Personally, I always have bread on its own and voluntarily went out of shape. French is tighter, but still no problem. And the usual one takes off! And the scapula may remain in the bread due to the high density of the pulp, you need to add a little (1-2 tablespoons) water.
Thank you for responding!
I still think I need to buy a new one. And this one can be left, for example, for making jam
LaraN
Katyastrophe, see the topic

Where to buy a spare bucket for the Panasonic 255 Bread Maker?

There is information where to buy a bucket.
Katyastrophe
Laran, thank you very much!
taniafka
I also have several scratches on the bucket and on the spatula, but everything works and I'm not going to change it yet ...
myhled
In order not to create a new topic, I would like to clarify here.
The bread maker is not even a month old yet.
No one climbed there with any metal objects and did not wash with abrasive substances, but it is clearly visible at the bottom of the bucket that the bucket is scratched from the work of the shovel. Apparently when she kneads sugar or something else she scratches on the bottom.
I confess, it happened a couple of times that I poured sugar, salt down under the flour. Maybe that's the reason. Now I'm pouring all that toko on top of the flour.
The question is, is it really that easy to scratch a bucket? If scratches have already formed in 4 kneads of bread, then what will happen in six months? hole?
30rg
Help! I bake bread for two months, model 255. Everything worked out fine. And now, for the fourth time, when baking, they will undermine the strong smell of burning. After I take out the bread, there is a lump of burnt flour inside the oven. I do everything according to the recipe and there were no such problems before. It seems that there are different modes and different flours, but each time the flour spills out when kneading.
mish
:) At me, too, when kneading, a little flour sometimes takes off and falls on the ten. I don't think this is critical. Then I wipe it off with a napkin and that's it. IMHO, it means that water should have been a couple of grams more so that the flour would not fly up. But this cannot be predicted - the moisture content of flour also varies. So don't bother. In my opinion, this is a minimal problem.
Okssi
30rg Don't worry)) it does happen sometimes and often depends on flour. I have the same stove model as yours, I have been using it for the second year and sometimes there are such moments too - it's not scary, after the stove cools down, just wipe it with a damp cloth. The only thing I do not agree with mish is that you need to increase the amount of water, then you will break the recipe and get a not so beautiful bread. If, when kneading the dough, the dough turns out to be correct (there is a good temka about the dough here, read it), then you are all right with water.
30rg
Thank you! Not much calmed down.
mish
Okssi, I'm not talking about a violation of the recipe, but only about the moisture content of the flour, which is why the dough is sometimes kneaded as expected, and sometimes with the same proportions it turns out dry and the flour flies up when kneading.
tatulja12
It happens, especially if you add flour, it gets dusty, and when baking you get a burning smell, but there is nothing particularly terrible, do not worry, everyone has this.
Kosha
I am no longer afraid of the smell of burnt flour.
But the smell of burnt cheese ...
Several times from the dispenser, cheese fell past the bucket during the baking that was delayed for the morning. Can I put a lot of cheese? In the morning there was such a smell, as if someone had crawled and died !!!
Nothing ... wipe the bread maker, air out the kitchen, and you can live.
These cases did not affect the taste of bread and the consumer qualities of the oven.
tatulja12
Kosha, maybe you need to change the order of laying the cheese?
Kosha
Quote: tatulja12

Kosha, maybe you need to change the order of laying the cheese?

How can you change it? The dispenser is automatic. And I'm not ready to get up at night in order to throw cheese in bread ...
tatulja12
Quote: Kosha

How can you change it? The dispenser is automatic. And I'm not ready to get up at night in order to throw cheese in bread ...
Yes, a tough case. And if cheese is not put into the dispenser, but directly to the flour? Is this the case when you set the timer for the night? I sit and think, actually, when I baked with cheese, I immediately put it down, I don't understand why you are in the dispenser.
Kosha


Thank you for worrying about me, it's nice when someone thinks of you.
In fact, I just put too much cheese in, I think.

Svetlana290968
My Panas-255, when kneading (yesterday and today), began to rattle, I want to rinse and clean well today. Has anyone contacted the SC with this problem, what do they say ???
Rina
I also got a few thin scratches on the bottom precisely because of the rather coarse salt that got under the flour. Since then, if the salt is not fine, then I dissolve it and sugar in water. And I seriously scratched the bucket when I dropped the spoon (they say, topped up the melted butter at the end of the batch). These scratches do not affect the quality of the bread, but I am trying to order a new bucket. After all, if you cook jams, then the acid from the fruit can react with the exposed metal. And what kind of metal there is under the coating, I do not know.
sazalexter
If you can't see the metal, don't worry! I also have scratches, but they are superficial. In Tefal pans, even expensive series from a wooden spoon can appear
Rina
The fact of the matter is that the scratches highly deep and fairly wide. Well, I say - my hands were crooked then, I dropped the spoon, and it was twisted around the bucket.
sazalexter
It is better to order a bucket in a seris or through Panasonic Plaza a new bucket.Excess metal in the body will be useless and it will burn
IMHO
glory777
I understood what the problem is!
The seller told me in the store, but I did not immediately pay attention to his words.
When we put the bucket in the oven, you need to shake it a little, if it dangles, then take it out and turn it 180 degrees, then it becomes tight in the grooves and will not rattle!
Oksana73
After reading the topic, I realized that quiet rumbling during kneading is normal ?! And I was just worried that it was humming so!
Lanca
Personally, my spatula was scratched, the bucket is fine, BUT we will change the spatula, because / somewhere in the open spaces of the forum / wrote, it is not desirable to bake with scratches, scratched Teflon is a very harmful thing.
Scientists recommend replacing any scratched or damaged Teflon pans immediately.
sazalexter
Lanca Here on the forum, and in the internet it has been written repeatedly that Teflon will "gas" if you use a new frying pan each time and heat it to red In terms of its chemical resistance, it exceeds all known synthetic materials and noble metals. It is not destroyed under the influence of alkalis, acids and even a mixture of nitric and hydrochloric acids. Destroyed by melts of alkali metals, fluorine and chlorine trifluoride.The polymer itself is very stable and inert under normal conditions. However, when heated above 200 ° C, polytetrafluoroethylene decomposes, forming toxic products. In addition, in the production and degradation of the polymer, the formation of perfluorooctanoic acid (abbreviated as PFOA, or C-8 Taken from Wikipedia 🔗
Lanca
Specialist comment

Valentin VEDERNIKOV, employee of the Sintez-M chemical laboratory:
- Most of the Teflon utensils sold in Russia are made in China. But, oddly enough, it is several times safer than real DuPont products. Because in the "left" non-stick coating, the content of harmful synthetic acid C-8 is much lower than the factory standard. But housewives can only 100 percent insure themselves and their relatives against a dangerous chemical component if they cook food in time-tested cast-iron pans and enamel pots. True, officially in Russia, not a single victim of Teflon dishes has yet been identified. The only victims I know of were two of my mother's parrots. After talking on the phone, she left an empty frying pan on the stove on for a few minutes. When Mom returned to the kitchen ten minutes later, the parrots in the cage were already dead. The birds were suffocated by the murderous acid secretions.
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Even minor cracks on the Teflon can cause harmful substances, including toxic hydrofluoric acid, to be released into the food being prepared. 🔗
Bee
Yes, parrots are very sensitive to chemicals. A friend's parrot reached out of the cage and plucked a glossy calendar hanging on the wall. It turns out that the paint with which the image is printed is also harmful, as a result, after half an hour the bird died.
Currently, it is very difficult to protect ourselves from substances poisoning our lives.

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