Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300

[Irsha]

Irsha, Ira, I will not get involved in the next showdown.
Reread your own messages.

I do not like your negativity towards Tristar, expressed constantly.
Moreover, it is not substantiated by anything, you do not have this device.

So I just restore justice, by your own method

Sorry

and put out under the lid

At the Princess? Or already in the pan? Reluctance to shift back and forth, but it sounds scary.

Girls, that's why nobody buys Ariete. She has temperature control and cooking time and is pretty

I've been looking at her for a long time too. What stops me is that I don't know what the real height is inside it. I don’t want it to work like a pizza maker Clathronic. In one video review it was said about him that the inner lower part is 2.5 cm high, and the upper one is 0.7 cm.In fact, it turned out that the upper part, when closed, goes inside the lower one, as a result, the height inside the device is not 2 , 5 + O, 7, but only 2.5. It seems to be an insignificant difference, but for me it plays a role. Although the pizza maker itself is very good in my opinion, the height inside the device is important to me, as experience has shown. Therefore, for my birthday I was going to buy myself another pizza maker as a gift. But it so happened that this Clathronic had to be returned to the store due to a marriage. With all this in mind, I chose Tristar. But as the second pizza maker, now I choose between Ariete and GF.

[Irina]

Sorry

Irina, also

But I never said that tristar was a bad purchase. You shouldn't be talking about me. I always write only about my experience, not dissuading anyone from shopping. You also write about my experience, it's good. I do not see my negative in relation to other devices.


These typospores arise regularly, as soon as someone asks - * What to buy? I myself can not decide. *

I praise my princess and travola, you praise your tristar, others have their units. Well that's good. Or be silent for everyone, afraid of hurting the feelings of the tristars

We're not sharing toys in kindergarten. Let's not quarrel.

[Semper giovane]

Semper giovane, you can ask why the second? Not a joke, really interesting. Maybe I need it too?

[Semper giovane]

GF

Semper giovane, here is Tanya tells

I wanted to buy it for my daughter, but they bought a good electric stove, a convection oven, they don't need pizza makers

French meat

GF

definitely !!!!!!

definitely !!!!!!

so then I immediately liked this frying pan, and open and close
Of course, I didn't need it, I still have a gas stove, but my daughter can only cook on electricity.

So I have not only Tristar)
Both the princess and the tortilla are also available.

There is something to compare in work, and not unfounded.

And talking about a thermostat without having it and not knowing how to work is, at least, very incorrect.
Moreover, many have it and people know what they are talking about.

And for beginners this is doubly incorrect, deception and incomplete information.

[Irina]

And talking about a thermostat without having it and not knowing how to work is, at least, very incorrect.

Irina, once again - I am not against the thermostat. I only write about the fact that I do well without him. Newbies are not fools, all posts can read, and yours too.


I have an idea about the thermostat, for example, I have AG, I use it, I'm glad

you can ask why the second? Not a joke, really interesting. Maybe I need it too?

Of course, you can ask. I am happy to answer all your questions. I will share my experience.
I enjoyed using the Clathronic so much, but the internal height of the device did not suit me. Therefore, because of this, she began to want another. Since I had to return Clathronic to the store, for a while I had to be left without a pizza maker. I waited two weeks for the money to be returned. Since I was buying at Ozone, I decided to wait for the money back in order to take another one at once. This time seemed like an eternity to me. I can’t imagine life without a pizza maker. I think in case of such situations, the second one will be very useful to me. And without them I suppose it will not be superfluous. I just really enjoyed cooking in them, as well as the taste of the cooked dishes. Let me give you an example. I can't fried, but I love cutlets. I have nothing against steamed cutlets. But I don't like to wash the double boiler. And in a pizza maker, cutlets are something between fried and steam, I really liked this taste. In addition, washing a pizza maker turned out to be easier to wash than a double boiler. In general, I combined business with pleasure. In my opinion, this is convenient.

My posts here two times and missed ...
And has long unsubscribed from the topic.

And then again "hitting" ... I can not remain silent when justice is violated)
I pulled the topic to open.

I also have two pizza makers.
Klatronic for frying with stripes, cutlets, fish, cheese cakes.
A GF for baking. It is taller inside, apple pies come out nicely there, as well as cupcakes in silicone molds. And the smells don't mix.
Tortilla left for the dacha. She is too small.

Of course, I didn't need it, I still have a gas stove, but my daughter can only cook on electricity.

I also have a gas stove (now changed to a panel) and an electric oven. But the pizza maker exceeded all my expectations. He replaced my oven completely and almost an ordinary frying pan. It all depends on what kind of dishes you cook. Everyone has their own preferences.

And talking about a thermostat without having it and not knowing how to work is, at least, very incorrect.
Moreover, many have it and people know what they are talking about.

the GF has 180, 195 and 210. and so I basically cook everything at 195. less often at 180. but I practically don't use 210.
the timer is very necessary in order to lift the lid. after I put the food in the oven, I put 10 minutes and calmly go about my business. After 10 minutes, I look at the readiness in order to change the temperature or open the lid if necessary.
if I don't, then my hands are itching to open the lid and participate, or rather, ruin everything

Girls! see how our "talents" sell the pizza oven
🔗
in the description is a wok, there is a thermostat, is this a thermostat? Something you can't see it ..... Some kind of very high power and a glass lid, where is it ?!
Dimensions do not write. It doesn't matter at all ...

[Semper giovane]

Semper giovane, Twig, thanks, girls, the clathronic was very advised to me, I still cannot understand whether I need a second one or not, if I fry in AG or on a contact grill, I mostly carcass in a cartoon, but in the Princess I only bake. Here is something that suggests that you probably need to, but shopaholism or common sense has not yet understood

[Galya]

So I started thinking about the tristar, I like the princess, but I still miss the thermostat.
Galya, looked at Arietta, the power of Tristar is almost 500 W less, and this is not unimportant to me. I’ll look at Avita, but I already have a craving for this prynzess, here in the village ...

thermostat is 3 means thermostat?

Thermostat, it maintains the temperature, maybe without a regulator. So in all cartoons there is a thermostat, but not all of us cannot regulate the temperature ourselves.

[Deana]

I praise my princess and travola, you praise your tristar, others have their units. Well that's good. Or be silent for everyone, afraid of hurting the feelings of the tristars

Although I have a Tristar, I don't consider myself a Tristar. I am only saying that the presence of a thermostat is a very convenient function.And this played a role in my choice.
Honestly, after reading some reviews that you can do without a thermostat, I bought myself a yogurt maker and an omelet maker without it. In the process of using, I realized that I miss him in these devices. As a result, I gave this yoghurt maker, and bought myself with a thermostat.
Therefore, I also think that it is incorrect to say that the thermostat is optional. Sometimes the model is the same, but the devices work in different ways. And if there is an opportunity to correct this work, then this is good.






Deana,

I was very advised by the clathronic, I still cannot understand whether I need a second one or not, if I fry in the AG or on a contact grill, I mostly cook in a cartoon, and only bake in the Princess. Here is something that suggests that you probably need to, but shopaholism or common sense has not yet understood

I think that your second pizza maker will not stand idle. The Clathronic is a good model, but I lacked the height inside. If this is not important for you, then take it. I think in this case it is common sense, not shopaholism.

Girls, we were the owners of Arieta.
If I remember correctly, they complained about the coverage and something was wrong with the work.
Maybe someone remembers more precisely.

It is not for nothing that it is not in use with us.

[Semper giovane]

Semper giovane Tayana, the depth of almost all pizza chains is the same, but the top lid is deep for the princess and the GF. All others have the same top cover.

The depth of almost all pizza makers is the same, but the top lid is deep for the princess and the GF. All others have the same top cover.

And Tristar has a deep absolute the same as that of the princess.

[Irina,]

Irina, Does the tristar have a deep top cover? How is the princess?

[Galina]

Yes, Galina, they are exactly the same.
Only Tristar was improved with a thermostat and the bottom with holes, it does not fume as much from it as from a princess.

Can you confuse him with Travola? There the cover is flat on the top.

Zahayala Princess without a thermostat I myself did not really understand how it is possible without it. But they do not look a gift horse in the mouth, and began to use it. Normally and not so, it turned out to be needed, indeed, only on dishes verified by time may be needed if you need to run away somewhere.
ps. I don't dissuade anyone from stoves with a thermostat

Well, then Tristar will also suit Tatyana

Osspadas .... no one your (and mine) princess was not upset and was not going to.
You just need to be realistic and have the courage to admit the obvious.

have the courage to admit the obvious

Irina, what is the obvious? It just seems to me that you obviously need a thermostat, but someone, obviously, a thermostat is purple ... Yes, it's more convenient and nothing more, but that is necessary ... And so, indeed, it turns out imposing and the owners without a thermostat have to shoot themselves for wasted money.

[Irina]

Irina, RepeShock, thanks to you, I bought Tristar and did not regret a single minute. I use it constantly!

Osspadas .... no one your (and mine) princess was not upset and was not going to.

I was also not going to get involved in this dispute, which constantly arises almost every 100 pages of the topic, and always with the same participants, but I can’t be silent either. Hayali, hayali.

I do not like your negativity towards Tristar, expressed constantly.

The same can be said about the negativity that has been constantly expressed in relation to the Princess lately.
But it was just said that there is no such urgent need for this thermostat, and in my opinion it is not turned so that often.
The recipes in this thread are "sharpened" all basically for the Princess, and nowhere are there any reviews that someone has burned out, help, guard. The meaning of using the Princess is in her speed and at the same time decent cooking and uniform tanning in 15-25 minutes, Tristar with its thermostat cannot boast of such a thing. So to each his own.

And Tristar must definitely be taken, a very successful model turned out.

But this is already an imposition

[Ksarochka]

Ksarochkaif you read carefully previous posts, the conclusions would have been completely different, namely: all owners of ovens with a thermostat urgently shoot themselves because of wasted money and for a long time, since the topic constantly pops up.

One has only to write the word "thermostat" and "princess", as they immediately stand up to the chest to protect.
And the owners of Tristar immediately close their mouths and shriek.

I repeat once again: In all fairness, this conversation has just come up again.

If you do not know, then I first had a princess, and much later a tristar appeared.
I tested it and was delighted that they fixed all the princess's flaws and also made a thermostat, which many dreamed of here, because The princess is overheating for many.
And I came so happy to report this in the topic. Reported ....

And then, as now, accusations rained down. Absolutely groundless and far-fetched.

But, I'm glad that at least someone found my messages useful.

Longina, Helen, thank you, I am very happy about this



Girls, if you do not understand irony and take phrases out of context .... who is the doctor to you, forgive me.

[Semper giovane]

Semper giovane, on * you *, pliz. Thanks, here's the height inside and confusing. I would like more, although I understand that the higher the lid, the longer it will warm up from above. Here, in the topic of stoves, they advertised new interesting ones, I'll sit, wait for the owners' real feedback, but I'll look at the price.

[Irina]

Irina,

If you don't know, then I first had a princess, and much later a tristar appeared

in the course, in the course, and I carefully read the topic, as well as carefully read the previous posts. And I didn't say anything bad about Tristar because I don't have one. I also can't say that I feel so bad without a thermostat (pizza in 12 minutes suits me perfectly and you generally need to bake it at the maximum). Therefore, I wrote that it is MORE COMFORTABLE with him (thermostat), but no more. And Irsha said just that. (Or everyone wants to hear what they want to hear). I chose the Princess because her coverage was praised here, for me personally this is more important than the thermostat.
By the way, if suddenly (God forbid) something happens to my Princess, it is quite possible that I will take a model with a thermostat

They have the same coverage.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, well, for some reason I saw it about the Princess. Maybe not only here on the forum I read these discussions.

[Dina]

in the theme of stoves advertised new interesting

Dina, if you're talking about pizza ovens, then this unit highly specialized, mainly for pizzas and tortillas, and if the lid is low, then the tortillas will be problematic to bake. I have a high lid in my Ferrari, and still some of the cakes are so inflated that they burn from the heating element.

Girls, if someone cooked "Diplomat" meat in Princesse (in French, in a captain's way, well, in general, who has what is called), share your experience, can there be any nuances

[Irsha]

IrshaThanks for the French meat in the GF point!
The recipe is very useful.

[win-tat]

win-tat, yes, about them, Tanya, nothing is known there, except that new interesting things are coming. If you like the price and all the goodies, you can put the pizza over there for baking, and take the Princess with a roast. Now I practically do not fry in it, I only bake.

thanks for the french meat

please poke me where you need to, otherwise I didn't see

[Tatka1]

Semper giovane, here's Tanya tells

I wanted to buy it for my daughter, but they bought a good electric stove, a convection oven, they don't need pizza makers

Tatka1, it's on page 946. I think the cooking principle is similar

Irsha, thanks for the French meat in the GF point!
The recipe is very useful.

I will join and do it - as I am in the Gourmet

The princess is overheating for many.

The root of the controversy, I think, lies precisely in this particular feature of some specific princesses, those who have gotten more aggressive princesses, like me, for example, may well think about the thermostat.I assume that my accessory was sold for a couple of times because it is quite aggressive. I make wonderful pizzas, but from the bottom at first such a hard crust I even cut myself a lot, due to the fact that there was no wheel at hand, and the knife fell off ... (I'm not crooked, if that) But the crust softens only the next morning, and there is something tastier than hot
I will not rush to change it to Tristar, but if I get it for a cheap price on Avita, I will buy Tristar and compare.

[natalia27]

natalia27, ahhhh, under the spoiler, I didn't see
Thank you, Natasha!

If you like the price and all the goodies

So I think the price will not be small, stoves with a stone "over the hill" cost ~ $ 100. That is, but buns are not baked there, they will fry to the heating element, because a pizza maker cannot replace a pizza baking.

Girls! how great it is that they released so many different pizza makers and makers for all tastes! and how cool you are!
I would be sooo unlikely, I would have bought something from this series, if not all of you with your wonderful recipes and recommendations!
Let's keep hanging out, chatting and cooking! and love your ovens very much and respect the opinions of others!

[Vika]

Vika,

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, Vika, 100%!

He replaced my oven completely and almost an ordinary frying pan.

Me too, I have a very poor oven in the gas stove. The princess is plowing for the oven, for the frying pans, and for the multivarishna she sometimes has time.

to say that the thermostat is optional is incorrect.

where is there not correctness? no one persuades you and does not force you to buy what I like, I can talk about myself, and the choice is yours

and always with the same participants

There are few princess owners, that is, almost everyone has a princess, like the first pizza maker that appeared, but then many, many changed the simple Princess for other units, and here I am such a stronghold of Princess, I also have a princess and a kanesh in stock, you should not forget her, she has more pluses than minuses

And in the pizza ovens Mashinen new Princesses shows ...

we already drove, drool disbanded and are waiting for the continuation of Masha's stories

Where? where to run, look ... give me some strength .. pliiiz ..