Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300

And the truth is that in the Princess everything is not tall, it does not turn very brown from above

pizza is almost all in the filling, steam from the filling, the edges are not fried

and the cakes are well baked, and the top and bottom are yellow, brown - depends on the dough

the biscuits are gorgeous, also the top is not white

I cook everything in a silicone pizza mold, the height of the sides is 3 cm, the bottom is 28 cm

The girls and I dragged in with my pizza ... ..., having seen enough of your goodies, I made 10 minutes of cold at the maximum in GF ...

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Galya, well, beauty. Inspired me to make pizza in her gf.
My GF is still building EVERYTHING I do at minimum speed and burns quickly with a Teflon sheet. Didn't fit in yet

[Marfusha5]

Marfusha5, Masinen wrote on page 627. Klatronic has a depth of 2.5 cm for the lower frying pan, and 0.7 cm for the upper one, but in the upper one there are still grill ribs sticking out.

Everything has already been decided that for my purposes I need Klathroic. And then the husband "Oh! Ossetian pies are cool!" ))). Masinen girls, what do you think, it will be possible in Klatronic, sometimes, to shove the Ossetian pie or without a chance? How much height does a ready-made Ossetian pie have about?

[Anitu]

Anitu, my Ossetian pies were like a fat apple. Maybe I have them so hard flattened rolled out?

GF while upsetting EVERYTHING I do at minimum speed and burns quickly with a Teflon sheet.

After the princess, I also can't get used to gf - the bottom is either burnt or oak, while I like only potatoes from it, though I didn't make pizza, but the pies and charlotte are burnt from the bottom in seconds, and the top is white !!!!

maybe it will be in Klatronic, sometimes, to shove the Ossetian pie

Ossetian he is not tall, of course it will fit into Klatronic and it will be even better, maybe the top will be ruddy)))

And for meat, Klatronic is simply excellent, neither in Tristar, nor in the Princess is meat fried like that.
Today I will exhibit my experiments with both meat and chicken))

Added Sunday 18 Sep 2016 11:32 am

but the pies and charlotte are burnt from the bottom in seconds, and the top is white

That's why I really like Tristar))

Well, I don’t know, I’ve never had a burnt cupcake or charlotte in my GF, I set the temperature to a minimum and it’s great.

And in my GF, fortunately, nothing burns, but I can't leave Princesska.

in Klatronic, the depth of the lower frying pan is 2.5 cm, and the upper one is 0.7 cm, but in the upper one there are still grill ribs sticking out.

Well, what are you going to stuff into it? ((By the way, it is useful to remember that at first people very actively baked all sorts of little things in the Princess in separate tins. I put all kinds of silicone boxes there and get different food in one load. And when the coating peels off or starts sticking, then the stove is generally joking will switch to this way of cooking - in molds. And in "2.5 cm with ribs" you put a lot?
However, there are teflon mats to save the situation, yes.

I am so generally in your case for the appatat with temperature control, but deep enough, and not "the opposite grill".

Added Sunday 18 Sep 2016 12:06 PM

And for meat, Klatronic is simply excellent, neither in Tristar, nor in the Princess is meat fried like that.

Mash, what do you mean? I'm in the Princess a couple of times tried to fry a chicken, so, read, some coals.))) Or are you not talking about the temperature? And the cutlets burn ... But I don't want a weaker stove, because there are a lot of moments when a very strong heating is needed, and I can get a weak one on the stove very well.

Yesterday I bought my used-shnuyu for 1800. You can see from the top plate that something was being cooked, and the bottom plate is completely new. Either replaced, or cooked in uniform.But not for long - this is one hundred percent, on the upper plastic there is not even a trace of heating of the heating element, and in general it is all neat and tidy. Coverage yes, "old" - exactly like mine. So I'm happy with my strategic reserves.

[Braised and fried cabbage]

Braised and fried cabbage
in Clatronic PM 3622
I really love this kind of cabbage, not stewed, but kind of baked. This is exactly what I did in my Kuku grill.

And so, chop onions, tomatoes
At this time, we warm up the Clathronic to the MAX temperature, pour the oil.
First, put the onion and fry, and then add the tomatoes and continue to fry for three to five minutes, make sure not to burn.

Now you need to chop the cabbage.
As soon as the onions and tomatoes are ready, put the cabbage and salt. I put it and tamped it straight well, because the cabbage will then decrease in volume.


We close the lid and cook, do not lower the temperature. BUT after three minutes, open and stir.
Then after another three minutes, stir. I cooked for about 15 minutes. Finally, turn the knob to 2 and let it sweat for about three minutes.
Time is approximate, see for yourself how you like it better, so that the cabbage is less fried or more.

In general, I liked it, it turned out exactly as I like

I think you should have two stoves.
1st type Princess / Tristar / GF, any of these three.
2nd type Klatronic.
Great tandem.

Girls, I'm all in thought - I used to be a princess, I liked it, but I wanted more. I bought an ariete with temperature control and a timer. In general, it always works at full capacity, and the timer turned out to be not so necessary (the husband is now remaking all the equipment for a disconnected wire, often with a switch).

Now I think I want to buy. Tristar was booked at the pre-order price, and now I really liked the clathronic. Here you are.

my husband now removes all the equipment for a disconnectable wire, often with a switch).

Even I am hung up about "often with a switch" And how can you turn off without it? As far as I understand, this is not to be pulled out of the socket? Tell me in more detail - maybe in a different topic (repair?)

Still, the best pizza oven in existence is the Ferrari. And it bakes quickly, and the dough explodes on the stone great and the top is baked as it should.
This white top in most pizza chains also confuses me very much.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, any unfounded conclusions or is it in your stove that there is a white top? I only have a Princess and Tristar. Everything is in order there with the color scheme. Mom and two Princess friends. Everything is also excellent with the color and quality of the baked goods. Don't mislead the people.

[Pchela maja]

Still, the best pizza oven in existence is the Ferrari.

Pchela maja, and no one argues with that.
This is actually a section about pizza makers. And comparing pizza makers with Ferrari, Bestron and others like them is somehow inappropriate. Everyone knows very well that the difference is palpable. IMHO.

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, I just ordered these things from China, I want to make removable wires for my devices. Otherwise, the wires are always confused, the boxes are a mess.

In general, there will be a shutdown on the case, the IKEA kitchen timer. And in the end I'm thinking whether to take a tristar for 2500 or GF for 4990. As always, there is no extra money)))) I also thought hard about clathronics, I really want to fry cutlets in such a device.
And the ariette will go to the annex, maybe someone needs such a fancy one, with a timer and temperature control, unfolding by 180 degrees, turned off by the top heating ... She did not take root for me. I use it, but I'm looking for something more suitable ...

[anna_k]

anna_k, throw links, plz, on things, otherwise I don't even know what they are called.

Pchela Maja, any groundless conclusions or is your stove white top?

Why unfounded? Most of the recent photographs of white-edged pizzas and white-topped tortillas demonstrate this. I had a Princess before, but I didn't like the lack of a temperature regulator, you gape a little and is already on fire, for me this turned out to be very important. I didn't bake pizza in it. And I graze on this topic only because I am finally waiting for a universal device that will satisfy all my requirements.

And I graze on this topic only because I am finally waiting for a universal device that will satisfy all my requirements.

Will it be a low airfryer with a bottom from the Princess?))

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, but I really thought that you were on personal experience. It seems to me that the point is in the ability to understand your device. Everything comes out great intuitively, a little experience in baking and that's it.

Somehow I found my "Asian" flatbread in meat broth. Only from this topic, where did the source code go, it's still not clear. Probably there was a bottom too, but I can't find it. Definitely not burnt, otherwise I would have taken a picture. I don't put sugar in the bread dough, so there are no black bottoms, but the top is fried. Although it is written that it did not burn as much as it looks.))

[Mashun]

For example, the whitish top does not upset me at all. Well, let. At the GF, at the beginning, I cooked sausages in puff pastry. So they rose so that they began to fry thoroughly. Here, urgently, I had to look for a silicone mat so that everything did not burn at all.
Here the light top does not upset, yes, but the brown bottom puts me right into a stupor, I want to immediately reduce any heating everywhere in order to stop the secondary disgrace.

Added Sunday 18 Sep 2016 15:09

Mashunwhat a cabbage! Wonderful cabbage turned out!
Mashun, prepare some thread, please, with meat.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, but I really thought that you were on personal experience. It seems to me that the point is in the ability to understand your device. Everything comes out great intuitively, a little experience in baking and that's it.

I simply could not get used to it, my Chuchelka pies burned in it, while in the convection oven the result is beyond praise.

[Duet - chicken wings with potatoes]

Mashun, prepare some thread, please, with meat.

Rituyla, here you go))
Duet - chicken wings with potatoes
in Clatronic PM 3622

We cut the chicken wings into three parts, we do not need the third part of the wing, the one that is the edge, because there is no meat there.
Put in a container, salt, pour with sunflower oil, mix well.
Then we take the breadcrumbs and sprinkle them on the wings in a container, close the lid and shake well.

Peel and cut the potatoes in circles.

We spread the Klatronic 180gr
and turn on heating at MAX

When it warms up, put the flat part of the wings and some potatoes on the corrugated surface, and put the rest in the deep part of the clathronic.

Fry until tender, about 25 minutes. We look at the time according to our situation.
Naturally, you need to turn it over a couple of times)
Yes, sprinkle with oil on top from the spray, sprinkle well, maybe breading and potatoes.



The potato turned out gorgeous

And the wings came out so delicious that they flew away in 5 minutes, I barely got it)

Girls, I will tell you a terrible secret so that the bottom does not burn, you either need to fry it for less time, or make the temperature lower. There are no other secrets. In order for a 1 cm thick cake to bake equally in a 2 cm high device, either convection or the top lid must heat more than the bottom or top of the baking must be products with a lower melting point. There are no other secrets either. It makes no sense to blame pizza ovens that they somehow do not work well and wait for a non-existent ideal. Yes, pizza ovens are like that. We accept them taking into account all the features, we select those recipes that work well in such ovens, and we cook the rest in other devices
p.s. although I got excited about the ideal. I think someday they will make a pizza oven with an adjustable top lid height and everyone will be happy

[Omelochkin]

My pizza sides also do not blush, because mostly on thin dough. I just lightly grease the edges with sauce, then they are not white. The main thing is that it's delicious!

And I'll come to you again with sweets
Cheese scones, again by Omelochkin recipe with minor modifications. The recipe was cut in half. Instead of cream, sour cream, 70 grammes of flour, added Italian herbs to one half, and smeared the other with adjika (for my husband). 15-20 minutes in a warmed-up Princess.
Very tasty !

English cookies "Scones" from R. Bertine (Omela)

And favorite biscuit Irishy-Vernissage , for 250 g of flour. 25 minutes from the cold.

[Masinen]

Masinen, Masha! The potatoes with wings and the cabbage turned out great too! Today I will make kuronogi with potatoes, and I cook such cabbage all the time in an electric pan. Thank you so much!

Added Sunday September 18, 2016 3:45 PM

Vasilica,

[Vasilica]

I will do so kuronogi today

If you cook outdoors, then they are more than wings, I would, when they are almost ready, then take off all the potatoes, because they will be baked earlier, and I would put my legs in a frying pan and close them for five minutes so that they reach condition)))

It will be very tasty in general, try it

Added Sunday September 18, 2016 3:50 PM

Vasilica, listen, well, at least run and bake)
I love Omelkin scones

[Ksyushin]

Devouli, what kind of cake with cheese came out in the GF by Ksyushin recipe. Broke hot.

Added Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:29 PM

I did the second half in Tristarik, but no. I don't even want to show it. Predictably, in my version, the bottom roared, and the top just grabbed. I had to turn it over. In GF, flat bread breathes directly, and the tristarike is so dense.

Beautiful cake! it means that the gf, like the princess, will blush the top well

Marish, blushes well if it reaches the top. I started with a medium temperature, but perhaps I could try with a low temperature.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, Rita, please discard the recipe reference, I want to try it in my GF, time and temperature, then I'll report back!

Girls, I conducted a clean experiment today on heating the top cover in the GF. Unfolded 180 degrees, put 2 identical cutlets on each side - one in the middle, the other on the edge, and turned it on. I did not specifically add oil for the purity of the experiment. On the side that the lid is browned more. Those that are reddened worse in the center than on the side. Then I brought the cutlets to mind with the lid closed and with butter to a minimum. It's a pity, I can't check in the PR, because I don't have a temperature probe, but it does not expand to 180
Conclusions: 180-degree opening is not an important function for me, because it takes up a lot of space, as much as the entire table. Plus it tastes better with the lid closed.
The top of the GF heats up slightly more than the bottom
Fries more at the edges than in the middle

[Polar bear]

Polar bear, Svetochka, now
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=467148.0
Look.
Larochka,Thank you!

Hell in the princess

Srimati - Indian Apple Pie (Omela)

Yesterday I received a new Tristar, without jambs)) Now we need to figure out how to return the first one with a defect back, at the point of issue they said that they had no right to take, only to issue A Comfort-Maximum wrote that I was receiving = returning at the same time, as I understood.
Today I cooked a standard chicken and potatoes. At the maximum. He's sooo delicate! It turned out less fried than I wanted. But here, perhaps, a different approach is needed. Out of habit, I opened it, looked, I was afraid that it would burn)) And I had to leave the device alone, it can turn it over once) So I'm happy for now, I just wanted something delicate.

[Anastasenok]

Anastasenok, and you have baked goods no more than 2 cm high and casseroles also brown in the Princess? Or just tall baked goods?

I really like my Princess
Yesterday she baked a cool cake for me, crispy and top and bottom. Then she mixed the dough and depicted cookies (for 9-10 minutes). It turned out delicious, although not fried on top, but I don't need a color on top, it's enough that it is delicious

and the remaining dough for cookies, which did not fit into Princesca, I laid out on a crisp plate and quickly baked on a double grill in the microwave, it also turned out deliciously, only funny, wavy from a corrugated plate

I understood why I don’t need a timer in the Princess, I only bake in it, and if the timer turned off the stove, I would relax and forget that my delicious cake is baked there and would go to the stove when my cake would be steamed in the turned off oven , but I love that it would be like a crust, sometimes I can't even stand it and eat a warm cake with a crispy crust. And I don't need steamed pastries at all
I immediately take the baked goods out of the Princess, well, maybe sometimes I can hold it for 2-3 minutes in the turned off oven.
Basically, all baking takes 12-18 minutes (it rarely takes more time), more often this time in the kitchen I fiddle around and do something, so it doesn't bother me.
The milk cake from Natuska also bakes Princeska for about 12 minutes and does not burn anything (usually I cook 1/2 portion), fast and tasty!

Girls, I conducted a clean experiment today on heating the top cover in the GF. Unfolded 180 degrees, put 2 identical cutlets on each side - one in the middle, the other on the edge, and turned it on. I did not specifically add oil for the purity of the experiment. On the side that the lid is browned more. Those that are reddened worse in the center than on the side. Then I brought the cutlets to mind with the lid closed and with butter to a minimum. It's a pity, I can't check in the PR, because I don't have a temperature probe, but it does not expand to 180
Conclusions: 180-degree opening is not an important function for me, because it takes up a lot of space, as much as the entire table. Plus it tastes better with the lid closed.
The top of the GF heats up slightly more than the bottom
Fries more at the edges than in the middle

This is not a pure experiment. Tena in the gf in a circle and the cutlet on the edge will fry faster than in the center. Yesterday I was frying fish cakes. I laid out everything along the contour and 2 were in the center. Already turning brown on the edge, but in the center it barely caught

Added Sunday 18 Sep 2016 18:54

Hell in the princess

Srimati - Indian Apple Pie (Omela)

Flax, how much baked and what and what covered. I made this pie 4 times in gf at a minimum pace. Burnt came out if the shape of a silicone 24cm is moist, tasty, but burnt. If you smeared it all over the Form on a Teflon sheet, then the dryish bottom, the burnt top, is white. Yours is gorgeous.

Flax, how much baked and what and what covered. I made this pie 4 times in gf at a minimum pace. Burnt came out if the shape of a silicone 24cm is moist, tasty, but burnt. If you smeared it all over the Form on a Teflon sheet, then the dryish bottom, the burnt top, is white. Yours is gorgeous.

Baked in the Princess for 20 minutes from cold ... and 10 minutes after turning off, baked in a uniform .. covered with his favorite rug, just in case ...

[Helen]

Helen, Helen, what a super-duper pie !! Can I have a photo of the form? And how about humidity? Silicone mold?

[Anitu]

Anitu, pizza has a yellow bottom of course.

[Helen]

Today I made the drumsticks with potatoes, first marinated the drumsticks ... 15 minutes from cold, turned the meat over the potatoes, turned them off ... and another 10 minutes ... made them on a Teflon mat ...

Added Sunday 18 Sep 2016 07:12 PM

Helen, Helen, what a super-duper pie !! Can I have a photo of the form? And how about humidity? Silicone mold?

no, not wet ... here somewhere the girls showed before ... and I bought .. she is fat good ...

[Rita]

Rita, you tortilla today at what temperature in the GF baked and how long?

Chebureks in the Princess ...

[Helen]

Helen, Elenayou did everything today

Just run and order the Princess, since Helen brought such a cake. But again in shape ... I honestly don't like silicone molds. I don’t know from what time my dislike appeared, but I don’t buy or use it.
I need to prepare a thread in Tristarik and in the GF, too. Maybe I shouldn't be so angry with them ?!
Svetul, cooked at 195, but then translated it to 180. Probably 20 minutes turned out.

[Helen]

Helen, Elenayou did everything today

Nah, not today ... I'm sick ... yesterday I baked a pie ... tonight drumsticks with potatoes ... and pasties, a little earlier ...

Basically, all baking takes 12-18 minutes (it rarely takes more time), more often this time in the kitchen I fiddle around and do something, so it doesn't bother me.

I absolutely agree, for this I love my Princess dearly. I will definitely not change it to Tr, Gf and others like them, she completely suits me with the speed of baking and the color of cakes and pies. Never before has there been a whitish top on baked goods.