Which vacuum cleaner to buy?

And of course I love rumba

I have a rumba, but something has begun to work poorly, does not suck in dirt, but carries it under the bottom. Taking it to the service center is far away, and even so I have already changed the battery once and the brushes too. The service center told me that it should be shown once a year. This is inconvenient for me. So for now, I try not to use my old lady. And all the same, one robot will not do. Need a handheld vacuum cleaner. So I think I've been thinking for a week already.

Need a handheld vacuum cleaner. So I think I've been thinking for a week already.

And I understand you.)) Now the basic models of Milka have become much more accessible. If a couple of years ago I bought a Mile from the sale for 11 thousand and thought that I was very lucky (usually this model cost 16), then today the initial models can be bought even cheaper. Despite the "crisis" and the general rise in prices. But if you choose wisely, then they will turn out to be very functional, albeit without some frills like the Comfort handle.
But some other brands have almost doubled in price.

called in miles yesterday. Vacuum cleaner for 10,000 low power, and the following suitable models cost at least 14,000. It is not so far to Dyson (because of the price I considered it as the second option). Filter bags 890. I was told that one set is enough for a year. One bag for 2-3 months.

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A vacuum cleaner for 10,000 low power and the following suitable models cost a minimum of 14,000.
Filter bags 890

Fathers ... Where do you live ??
I just opened the website of a red chain store. An excellent powerful (2.2 kW) model 8330 with a hepa, a good universal nozzle and nozzles in the body costs 10.5 thousand, and bags for it about 590 for 4 pieces + pre-motor and outlet filters included.

[Bijou]

Bijou, in the same place in the message it is written that the prices for Milie. and not just a model of a vacuum cleaner with a certain power.

Duc usually buy something not all "Mila equipment", but one specific vacuum cleaner.

Now I am buying one unit, which in their branded official store costs several thousand more than the market average. And what can I do with this? That's right, to find a shop in our small town that will bring me this business even cheaper than the "market average". (t-t-t)

Yes, I do, I got into the habit of interfering in conversations
Something completely oblondin and lately I've been mumbling on the forums .. either I break the rules, then I feed the trolls, then I swear with the dog owners ...
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It happens ..

Filter bags 890. I was told that one set is enough for a year. One bag for 2-3 months.

and now multiply these bags by the number of years and what will this vacuum cleaner stand about))) this is horror !!

[Biryusinka]

Biryusinka, I support you need to choose a vacuum cleaner with a rag bag, shook out the bag and that's it, if possible, bought paper bags, ran out, again rag.

In this case, the vacuum cleaner is not particularly needed - you can use a broom. Seriously though, this is not a serious fabric bag. After all, we do not vacuum from garbage, but from dust. The fabric allows all this dust to pass through.
But there is a good way to save money - this is a cyclone filter. It collects garbage to the bag, shakes out easily. I have been using Electrolux for a long time, now I bought another company, also excellent. The set includes various adapters for any vacuum cleaner. The paper bag lasts almost a year.
Here, I found it! I bought this second one! Better than electrolux. Great thing! Two cats, wool every day half a container

and now multiply these bags by the number of years and what will this vacuum cleaner stand about))) this is horror !!

And where is the horror? Even if you buy these very best bags in the world for such a lot of money, you will not have to do anything more than just carry a neatly closed bag to the trash heap just a quarter and insert a brand new snow-white one again. Even a hep with them is not needed, and the output and pre-engine filters are in a box with bags. Well, add 10 thousand for 10 years to the initial cost of the vacuum cleaner (which in itself is utopian, but oh well, let it be overkill). Get 10 Years of Amenities Ownership.

Now do the same for other vacuum cleaners, which a priori clean worse than a mil bag. Therefore, the pre-engines need to be washed or changed (and this is money), bought extra haps (which is +500 rubles a year), get rid of the garbage in a rather grimy way - shake out the cyclones, wash the dirty engines, pour out the slops from the water dust, then wash and dry everything. push back ... Horror!

Here's a cute illustration:


It looks so ugly for a vacuum cleaner costing half a thousand dollars that, to be honest, I still can't believe that this actually happens and there are people who voluntarily subscribe to this.

except just a quarter to bring a neatly closed bag to the trash heap

I envy you, or the bags are big or there is not enough garbage, I have two boys and two small dogs, I shake out the fabric bag about once 10 days. I dream of a bagless vacuum cleaner, I can't decide.

[Alitka_s]

I envy you, or the bags are big or there is not enough garbage, I have two boys and two small dogs, I shake out the fabric bag about once 10 days.

The hit of recent years is this type of vacuum cleaner: 🔗
Several generations have passed them with some differences. She spoke about such a nozzle on the pipe Alitka_s in a post in front of mine, only she has a different manufacturer. So far, such pre-filters are sold in few places, but I suspect that soon there will be a lot of them and inexpensively (as it is now in Belarus), but while people are getting where they can - in Samsung services, stores with spare parts or on Ibea - our stores do not sell much.

I have such a cyclone on the powerful Mile. The last bag was installed for Christmas, survived the installation of a new kitchen with saw-cuts, the grinder chipped two meters long bricks, when even the ceiling turned out to be red, it seems that he got the grated putty from that very kitchen (but I don’t remember one hundred percent), through day cleans around the stove with ash, not counting a rather big private house with a dog, a hamster and cats. )) And still lifts a large carpet and spins a large turbo brush on not too shaggy surfaces. That is, one bag is enough for 4-5 months with such a construction life and for half a year.

But you have to empty the garbage from the cyclone, yes ... Sometimes it is annoying, although it has an unsurpassed advantage in comparison with ordinary cyclones - it is narrow and long. That is, by grasping the very bottom, you can shove it deeper into a bucket of garbage and the accumulated waste will drain off in a neat heap, not particularly dust around. Well, you don't need to bend over to the vacuum cleaner to unfasten it - at the end of the cleaning, I taxied closer to the trash can, turned it off in one motion, sprinkled it, turned it back and the vacuum cleaner into the parking lot.)

I dream of a bagless vacuum cleaner, I can't decide.

Watch the video in my post above on the page - there is just an advanced cyclone for a lot of money. 16 holes at 41 seconds are just exits from small cyclones of the second order. They are intended for fine cleaning (like the bag in my case), but look at what the filter looks like right behind them at 1.05 !!! There is even a hap in the dust!

And believe me, in cheaper models, the situation is even worse, and I would generally ban single-cyclone container pots as a class for especially cynical mockery of users.

I have a Mille vacuum cleaner. I like the suction power and the fact that it can be changed.I like the fact that it is not loud - you can vacuum at night (which my daughter periodically does on a suction power of 1-4). Taking into account that I have three dogs and one of them is a shepherd, then I have one branded filter box per year (4 bags of 4.5 liters).
With previous vacuum cleaners, I was dying on the floors. To clean the wool from the carpet was a feat. Now it takes about 5 minutes. I just go through with a vacuum cleaner and that's it. And without a difference, the carpet is in the room, linoleum in the corridor or tiles in the kitchen. And this is with a simple brush. You can buy and connect an electric brush to the vacuum cleaner, but it costs like a vacuum cleaner and there is no need for this.

Here's a cute illustration:

It looks so ugly for a vacuum cleaner costing half a thousand dollars that, to be honest, I still can't believe that this actually happens and there are people who voluntarily subscribe to this.

I do not have a Samsung, which is in this video, but the impression is that the torment of the mistress of the house is specially shown in such detail. On my knees, slowly and for a long time ... In general, I don't really trust such videos, you can shoot anything you want.
I and many in this thread have other cyclones, Dysons of different models, there are no problems with cleaning the vacuum cleaner.
Everyone has their own preferences, but I shouldn't draw conclusions based on such videos.

On my knees, slowly and for a long time ... In general, I don't really trust such videos, you can shoot anything you want.

Yes, I just wrote that it is difficult to believe in this. But here's a video well, completely real, from our ordinary user, who is extremely satisfied. The result is not so deliberate, but still pretty similar, just look longer here.


Here I agree with the fact that Dyson is still more thoughtful and cleaner than other cyclone vacuum cleaners, albeit the weakest in terms of suction power.

Everyone has their own preferences, but I shouldn't draw conclusions based on such videos.

Well, how can I say ... If you do not use someone else's experience, you will have to acquire your own. And not everyone can afford it. ))

I have such a cyclone on the powerful Mile.

Does this company do such an option, or is it possible to sprinkle a flask almost to anyone? That's why Mile is interested in me too. I didn't find Milek with a cone on the official website.

Gal, well, yes, they will spoil their business with bags.))) Plus, there must be some kind of patent for this thing.

Three or four years ago, on the occasion of the whole Samsung, I bought as much for 2.5 thousand because of this cone, which separately cost almost one and a half. Then she supplied him with good sacks from Filtero and sent him off to his mother, and the cone is more ... Mille and Sams have the same pipe diameter, so this twister becomes normal. But to Phillips or Electrolux - no, there you need to fence adapters.

By the way, did you find bags at Mvideo for 290 rubles per pack? It seems that you are on the Trunk, we piled everything up there in reserve. I already have deposits - I buy a pack or two a year for the occasion and for a cheap price, and a whole corner has accumulated, but even then it did not pass by - if you pay from the card, it seems like 270. And if you put a basket of more than two thousand and do not pick it up right away, then they still send the promo code to the link - someone so grabbed in general almost two hundred and a half. ))) A few days ago, it seemed like they were in the price list ...

She ... didn't get cheap filters. I visit Trunk very rarely, only if I suddenly start trying to understand some topic, but in principle I already have everything, and therefore rarely. Yes, I'm not worried about bags at all - is it necessary? buy at any price! I played enough with fabric, my BOSCH had such a signature one - a couple of times was enough to abandon this idea.
Thank you for the cone! I’ll take an interest, I’ll take a look, I haven’t even heard of her before.

Yeah ... Tama in the capitals is good for you ...
And we have only one Mvideo and traded with this expense. I was afraid that he would drain the remains and stop trading in Miles, as El-lo had previously refused. Where can I look for them later, order from Ibei?)) So from there, not only the original can be sent. But no, they just put a new type of bags. Three times more expensive. And we have two Milkas in our family and we are sharpening the third tooth, while the powerful ones still come across at least in some places - the law they have in Europe came out that from the age of 16 it is not higher than either 1600, or 1200 watts .. I don’t remember exactly, in short - I remember that I don’t get such goodness for nothing.

But here's a video well, completely real, from our ordinary user, who is extremely satisfied. The result is not so deliberate, but still pretty similar, just look longer here.

Not a bad review, clearly more objective than the previous one.

Here I agree with the fact that Dyson is still more thoughtful and cleaner than other cyclone vacuum cleaners, albeit the weakest in terms of suction power.

Weak? Are they really complaining about its suction power? It's enough for us

and a cone for yourself ..

Have you come up with it yourself? How good it is when he can change something himself

[Lena]

The hit of recent years is this type of vacuum cleaner: 🔗
Several generations have passed them with some differences. Alitka_s spoke about such a pipe nozzle in a post in front of mine, only she had another manufacturer. So far, such pre-filters are sold in few places, but I suspect that soon there will be a lot of them and inexpensively (as it is now in Belarus), but while people are getting where they can - in Samsung services, stores with spare parts or on Ibea - our stores do not sell much.

Lena, Bijou, interested in such a flask. We can't pull Millet yet, I'm looking for a budget option. But I don't understand vacuum cleaners, I got completely confused in all these filters. I just want a powerful one and not often shake out these bags, well, so that the dust from it does not fly, like in my old one. But, for example, according to this link, I understand that there is a flask on the handle, and in the vacuum cleaner itself there are disposable bags? I wonder how powerful he is? Maybe take this? Are these flasks durable, do not need to be changed? I'm always afraid that I won't find consumables later. a bag in a pinch and a universal rag can be bought.

Have you come up with it yourself? How good it is when he can change something himself

Nooo, I wouldn’t be smart enough.))) This was invented by the owners of "the world's best vacuum cleaner!" named Thomas. Real German quality, from which the owners did not know where to go, so they came up with the bulk of the garbage to catch before entering the actual vacuum cleaner. And so Samsung hooked this flask sooo long ago, and those models of their vacuum cleaners were not particularly popular, because they had a mountain of jambs.

... But, for example, according to this link, I understand that there is a flask on the handle, and in the vacuum cleaner itself there are disposable bags? I wonder how powerful he is? Maybe take this?

Your business.) Here this twister is a little less convenient than mine - my input-output is on the same axis, and on the last two models, for some reason, the manufacturer blew them. Why is it unusual for people to vacuum at first, but then they get used to it. Reviews are generally very good, although there are some minor flaws. But they are also in a vacuum cleaner twice or three times more, alas. The main thing is that you can put up with them, because the dignity outweighs.

The bag there seems to be reusable, too, but I do not advise you to use it just once - it will instantly dirtiest all the new filters, the compartment inside and the engine will get it, but you will not be able to use it all the time - these kinds of bags are now not fabric, but made of loose synthetics, which instantly wipes along the clamping line and begins to pass dust. Do we need it?))

The set should include a pair of disposable Swirl bags - these are very good bags and will last at least six months, or even almost a year. During this time, you can safely pick up a replacement for them. Everyone agreed that the best solution would be either the same Swirl, or the cheaper Filtero. It should be called Filtero Sam 03 Extra and nothing else. You can, for example, take a large box for 8 bags in Yulmart at once, it is very inexpensive in the end.

The main problem of the bag vacuum cleaner is the unpleasant smell from the bag or filters that appears at the first moment after switching on.In the presence of a preliminary cyclone, the main sources of the future smell remain in it and are thrown out regularly - these are animal hair and other fine organic matter. Therefore, there is nothing special to smell there, if the smell appears, it does not appear very soon or does not appear at all. If you look inside the bag a month later, it will be completely empty and only a little bit sprinkled like a fine powder. Such bags are thrown out in an empty state after the proper traction force has disappeared - everything that the owners of bagless cyclone vacuum cleaners constantly rinse out of foam rubber and other filters is folded into a bag. The bag has a large surface area, the amount of dust can build up for a long time.)))

Here is an old photo of such a bag from Filtero, when it was not blue, but white. From a similar Samsung with a twister. It seems that the bag has been here for 5 months.
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here is a cone, there is also a ru on the fridge. Suitable for any vacuum cleaner.

[Bijou, Lena]

It seems that you are on the Trunk

Bijou, Lena, where is it???

This is the so simplified name of the forum on household appliances 🔗

[Alitka_s]

Alitka_s, thank you for reminding me.)) Last night I searched the Internet again about this, and suddenly found it in stock in a store right in our town. That is, there is no need to buy a pig in a poke, pay in advance and pay for the shipment - here it is, waiting for me at several stops, and at the lowest price on the Internet - 1007 rubles. )) Give two, in short.

What can I say ... After the old Samsung heaven and earth. Frankly, it would be better if I bought another one of the same for two thousand.))) But without fish ... I'll leave one for myself on the second Mile on another floor, I'll either give the second one, or return it to the store if suddenly none of my friends needs it. The design is very different from Samsung - everything is thin, flimsy, narrow, the thrust with it falls more noticeably than with the original, because it was originally stupidly arranged. Sams has one size - under 35 mm. Two sizes are immediately positioned - 32 and 35. It seems, what are the problems? We make pipes of one of the sizes (and preferably larger), insert a narrowed adapter by 32 mm and everyone is happy. Yeah, right now ... The tubes are still already !! And already on these little bits others are planted, slightly larger in size, both 32 and 35. Idiocy, forgive me ...

But to work - it works. Dust with wool obediently spins, the flask snaps off for a rash just as easily, and there are even fewer extra cracks with suction in it ... Only dropping on concrete is strictly contraindicated (and Samsung has probably already flown 10 times in the yard), short connections play, and you can't even hold them with your hand when cleaning - they are short.

But if you do not know how it is better, then it is quite possible to live with such a person and even quite happily. Especially if you make friends with a fumka, scotch tape or electrical tape to correct the mistakes of Chinese engineering geniuses.

I have a mile top, bought in 2007. the control on the handle failed after a year and a half.
I still didn't like that the cord is too short. I gave it to my husband to work.
Now I have a carcher steam cleaner and a dyson animal about 62 to him, this tandem suits me more than.

the control on the handle failed after a year and a half

It’s not for nothing that I was suspicious of such management. I have two Milkas, one since 2007, and the second, too, for two years already. be, be, be, ... everything works.

Lena-Bizhu, so look for this cyclone filter or well it? I didn't really understand from your review

So the vacuum cleaner itself remained fully operational.
By the way, I still really did not like the parking slot for the handle with a hose, it often fell out.
In general, I see no reason now why I overpaid so much then.

Lena-Bizhu, so look for this cyclone filter or well it? I didn't really understand from your review

)) I myself have not really understood yet .. To be honest, I think that such a thing in the house simply must be the default. And used at will or need.Do you know how cool it is to shake out the flask and walk on a completely clean-looking carpet? You think that it is spotlessly clean there, but in fact, half a glass of dust will easily collect in the flask. For one or two retraining to clean - the quality grows in front of the amazed audience. I mean, after a few experiments, you learn to reliably assess how cleanly you vacuum.
Well, all the other cases - you are afraid to suck in a lost earring or the walls have been drilled ...

But. If there is an opportunity to buy a twister from Samsung, then you need to buy it, even if it is twice as expensive. If there is no such thing, then this Chinese "what was it" is possible. In any case, better than none. But it is also more flimsy, and in the upper part, the dust handle in it sways a little even during revision file electrical tape.

Well, and another difference - Samsung allows you to drag in larger debris - inside the head of the cyclones are arranged differently. That is, a piece of napkin easily slipped into the Sams, but got stuck in the Topper, I had to open the flask and pull it out. (

[Bijou]

Honestly, I think that such a thing in the house simply must be the default. And used at will or need.

Bijou, Lena, and if I have a cyclonic vacuum cleaner, does it make sense to buy this twister?

[Biryusa]

Biryusa, oh, I don’t know.)) This is a useful thing for the sack and for the Thomas. Then only the finest dust passes further, and the bag and water will easily grab it. And in a cyclone vacuum cleaner there is already a cyclone ... It seems that I read somewhere that someone tried it, but I don’t remember how it ended. Maybe nothing, if not worse - in cyclones there is a large flask for large debris, and small for dust. How fine dust will behave in a large cyclone, I do not know, maybe it will just fly further?

For cyclone owners who are tired of washing intermediate filters, there is another toy - we buy inexpensive synthetic bags such as Menalux or Filtero, cut out a flap from them in the shape of a filter and put them on the side of the flying dust. You can try all the layers at once, you can only try one ... Due to poverty, you can even put an ordinary napkin, but the air passes through it rather tightly.

[Lena]

If there is an opportunity to buy a twister from Samsung, then you need to buy it, even if it is twice as expensive.

Lena, yes it seems there is such an opportunity, but there are several different of them, even for Electrolux there is some. Which one to take to Milke?

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[lega]

lega, here I seem to be "Filter cyclone (flask) of the Samsung DJ67-00055G vacuum cleaner vz DJ67-00055E (for large debris) without latches" such - it has no latches, which are not very necessary on the Mil, because they do not match, and just with a thick plastic mesh inside. As for me, the best option. Because a) this mesh is not clogged as much as the nylon one in the figure from the first position of DJ61-00445B and b) it is coaxial, unlike where 4 pictures are stuck - this is their last modification. It seems to me uncomfortable, but yesterday friends bought it - they say it's okay ...

They say about this misaligned one that it retains even more dust, but inside it this yellow filter fungus is too loose, it seems to me that large debris will get stuck ..

People also complained that they ordered a regular old one, and they received a new one that was not aligned. Like, there are no more old ones, only such are sent.)) So pay attention to this.

even for Electrolux there is some.

This one is definitely in the garden - then it's better than the Chinese Topper.)) I hooked it with my own hands in the store on Phillips - it becomes normal. And it looks nicer than Electrolux. About which they say that he is alive until the first fall.

people complained that they ordered the usual old one, and they received a new one that was not aligned. Like, there are no more old ones, only such are sent.))

Lena, thanks for the consultation!

So this is a site from our city, I can go myself or send my son.

[lega]

lega, Oh cool! Then right on the spot you can navigate if there are different ones.
Will you unsubscribe later, after the first uses? Well, you never know, suddenly you don't like it?

By the way, he eats away the traction at the vacuum cleaner a little. At first on Milki it is almost imperceptible, but in the end, when the cyclone is already poorly cleaned, it can be unfastened and the thrust grows again. Well, you shouldn't be guided by the red flag of a bag filled with a twister - solely by your own feelings.

Happy shopping!

By the way, he eats away the traction at the vacuum cleaner a little. At first on Milki it is almost imperceptible, but in the end, when the cyclone is already poorly cleaned, it can be unfastened and the thrust grows again. Well, you shouldn't be guided by the red flag of a bag filled with a twister - solely by your own feelings.

it is generally wrong, when the suction power is lost, it is necessary to take such cyclones so that it is constant!

Girlsiiiii, came here to cry Recently, my Thomas's floor cleaning pump broke down and the "sealing" of the insert in the bucket was out of order a long time ago (but I just glued it with tape and vacuum cleaned, uncomfortable, but not scary). And then my mjush decided to take him for repair (our official service) and so: ordering an insert in a bucket 4000r. - yes, I'd rather stock up on electrical tape !!! Today they called and said that the repair of the pump is the same !!! In short, I had a fight with my husband, I think it is inexpedient to throw away such money for repairs, it is not known how long the engine will last for him (the vacuum cleaner is about 7 years old, especially since at first, due to inexperience, I stoked it a couple of times), besides, we can now have a hepa to him buy only ten, but this does not suit us (we need 12-13), since Mush is allergic. Here, at least she complained

Girlsiiiii, came here to cry Recently, my Thomas's floor cleaning pump broke down and the "sealing" of the insert in the bucket was out of order for a long time (but I just glued it with tape and vacuum cleaned, uncomfortable, but not scary). And then my mjush decided to take him for repair (our official service) and so: ordering an insert in a bucket 4000r. - yes, I'd rather stock up on electrical tape !!! Today they called and said that the repair of the pump is the same !!! In short, I had a fight with my husband, I think it is inexpedient to throw away such money for repairs, it is not known how long the engine will last for him (the vacuum cleaner is about 7 years old, especially since at first, due to inexperience, I stoked it a couple of times), besides, we can now have a hepa to him buy only ten, but this does not suit us (we need 12-13), since Mush is allergic. Here, at least she complained

somehow expensive to be honest ... is this an official service? my parents didn't really have Thomas, but a Dyson, also from allergies, but broke down for 10 years, although 5 years warranty and repair cost 3 thousand.

[auntyirisha]

somehow expensive to be honest ... is this an official service?

This is normal for a tomos. 5 years ago I gave 1,500 rubles for 20 cm of elastic. And now, in general, there is nothing to be surprised at the prices ... That is why I sold this "tramp" without any regret.
auntyirisha, but I can only advise you one thing: if you already have a "hand", then go to Avito and look for spare parts there. Maybe he can change himself ...

This is normal for a tomos. 5 years ago I gave 1,500 rubles for 20 cm of elastic. And now there is nothing to be surprised at the prices ...

well, probably because washing) then it is clear why it is so expensive. But in general, for 8 thousand you can buy a new one))

besides, a hep to him now you can buy only ten,

Very little, especially for allergy sufferers :(

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, unfortunately, it is easier for him to give it back for repair. That's why she swore that the money for repairs was "crazy". Official service. Our sellers absolutely "From oak to cactus" is some Thomas in the store for more than 42000r

* Anyuta *, unfortunately, it is easier for him to return for repairs. That's why she swore that the money for repairs was "crazy". Official service. Our sellers absolutely "From oak to cactus" is some Thomas in the store for more than 42000r

And how much is the guarantee for it?

[Miranda1980]

Miranda1980, there is no guarantee for a long time, the vacuum cleaner is 6-7 years old. But I didn't wash the floors for them enough (