Lanochka007
Quote: Scarecrow
Manual mode, 90gr, 1.5 hours
Scarecrow, Nata, are you putting on a delay from the evening? It's just that from the morning of 1.5 hours you have to find time for porridge. I have Shteba DD2 and I can't get enough of the porridge in it. But the question was to buy a cartoon baby. I have already reviewed so many of them on the forum, I really like the film design, it is very compact, and the girls are praised very much by the members of the forum. I'm just used to the pressure cooker and I'm afraid I won't make friends with the slow cooker. Nata, here's some advice, I really trust your opinion
petu
Quote: Lanochka007
and girls - members of the forum praise very much.
Many scold ....
Rita
Pronay, in your case, there is a factory defect, so you need to attach a letter with photographs, as advised above. It would also be nice to consult with consumer protection about your rights.
A.lenka
Quote: Pronay
Phillips' hotline responded the same way ...
Tatyana, You can say anything on the phone ...
Let them write an official answer. Alas, bamAshka often changes a lot ...
I would write an official slander. If not, I would give it to an independent examination.
mamusi
petu, Olya, we will cook again ... I will definitely report back .... well, about the eggs :-) :-) :-)
mamusi
Lanochka007, in the morning you will have time to cook some kind of "short-lived porridge" :-), for example buckwheat or rolled oats ... I cook non-dairy buckwheat for 20 minutes, and put the oatmeal in the evening, if whole, and in the morning it's already porridge. Are you not considering PANASONIK 10? Very reliable and good little cartoon ... many people here have 1) Panasik, and only 2) Phillips ... well, look at it ...
Pronay
Rita, Elena, thank you, I agree with you completely. In the evening I will come, try to take a better picture and write. It can really turn out to be exchanged.
Scarecrow
Lanochka007,

I put it in the evening so that the porridge has time to get tired and boil. There is not much time for all this in the morning. I want to open and already have it. I took the baby, because I only propose to cook porridge in it. As soon as you start doing something else, the porridge smells godlessly of everything. And I like tenovaya more for porridge.
Lanochka007
mamusi, Scarecrow, yeah, I understood everything. I will read more and think about it. Thanks for your feedback
Tanya-Fanya
Pronay, a very good idea was given to you above - to apply to the department for consumer protection at the place of residence. You don't need Philips here either. Eldorado sold a poor-quality product, they are obliged to replace or return the money within the prescribed period. The only thing is that there is an established (it seems to be a decree of the Government of the Russian Federation) list of goods subject to / non-returnable. This would be further clarified before the kick kicks. And in Eldorado, you must include an application for a return or exchange for another good quality product. Application in 2 copies. You hand over one, on the other they put a mark on you that they have accepted for consideration, they must give you an answer, even a refusal is empty, but written. In this case, you do not demand to replace the bowl, but to replace or return the device as a whole. And the bowl is an integral part of it, because without the bowl, he cannot work.

Lanochka007, , can I insert "5 kopecks"? Milk rolled oats on the postponement behave with an enviable inconstancy (sometimes it runs away, then everything is fine)
Scarecrow
Tanya-Fanya,

What program? I don't use the "porridge" program at all. I cook on "manual". Or does it run away with you and on it?
RepeShock
Yes, porridge is running here, running.

And on the Manual, and on the Kasha ... and with milk, and on water.
Those who do not run right away can start later.
Those who have not run and do not run are lucky)
MomAnya
In Eldorado, this cartoon costs 2999. I ordered it, but changed my mind to buy it back. If anyone needs it, I can pick it up and forward it by Business Lines, or by mail.
Until February 26, the order is in reserve.
Tanya-Fanya
Scarecrow ,

It is impossible to predict the escape of milk rolled oats on a delay of 90 g. There are luck, but there are
On the "Kasha" so far it is good (fie, fie, fie) side dishes (on the water) rice, buckwheat are obtained.

Lately, milk rolled oats have not been running (ugh, ugh, ugh) on the "Omelette" 90 g 40 minutes, but there can be no delay, and 40 minutes is a long wait.
Scarecrow
Tanya-Fanya,

And if you try 80? If he runs away by 90, then it boils, that is, bust. Maybe 80 will be the desired 90?
petu
Quote: Scarecrow
And if you try 80? If he runs away by 90, then it boils, that is, bust. Maybe 80 will be the required 90?




80 * manual
15min - 82 *,
20min-89.7 *,
25min -86.2 *,
30min-86 *,
1h-85 *.
90 * manual
15min-94 *,
20min-100 (boiling),
25min-98 *,
30min-96 *,
1h-95 *
omelet 90 *
15min-80 *,
20min -90.8 *,
25min-94 *,
30min-94.1 *,
1h-95 *,
1h10min-96.2 *,
1h20min-94.3 *


On * eggs * - it boils very, very actively, on an omelet 80 - it boils, but it's bad ...
RepeShock

At 80 does not boil at all, have already tried.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Scarecrow

Tanya-Fanya,
And if you try 80? If he runs away by 90, then it boils, that is, bust. Maybe 80 will be the desired 90?

Nata, the problem is the inconsistency of Filkin's character The same proportions, products, and the result is sometimes different
You can try 80gr on a weekend.
At first I was very pleased with "Manual" 90g, and then shoots became more frequent. I don’t want to experiment with delay any more.
On the "Omelet" 90 g there is no boiling boil, sorry there is no delay, it is so good, the porridge languishes and gradually thickens.


Scarecrow
Quote: RepeShock

At 80 does not boil at all, have already tried.
Actually 90 is also not the boiling point.
Well, they said themselves - how. This means that if someone does not boil, it is not a fact that others will have the same.

Quote: Tanya-Fania

Nata, the problem is the inconsistency of Filkin's character The same proportions, products, and the result is sometimes different
You can try 80gr on a weekend.
At first I was very pleased with "Manual" 90g, and then shoots became more frequent. I don’t want to experiment with delay any more.
On the "Omelet" 90 g there is no boiling boil, sorry there is no delay, it is so good, the porridge languishes and gradually thickens.

I'm just trying to find an approach specific to your instance.
This is how it behaves for me on Manual 90. Someone wrote that the algorithm is as follows: first it boils, and then it holds 90. I did not notice this at all. He just puffs with practically no visible boil, barely from beginning to end. But on the porridge - just atas how it rages.
And I cook porridge with the addition of water. Always. This can probably make a difference too. Hercules is generally a very "foaming" porridge. Although rice is inclined to this ... In short, I will continue to try and write reports.))) If anything, I’ll take offense and buy an old proven Panasonic!)))

Today in the Metro I touched little Redmond. In my opinion, he is much heavier than Phillips. Is the filling so different?
mamusi
Quote: Scarecrow
If anything, I will be offended and buy an old proven Panasonic!)))
Natasha, Panasik is a thing! :-) :-) :-) I hurried to buy myself a second one, and now I have TWO
... they say it disappears completely from stores
vernisag
Quote: Scarecrow
If anything, I will be offended and buy an old proven Panasonic!)))
Do you seem to have a Panasonic, some pretty handsome? Or I'm confusing what
Scarecrow
vernisag,

I have a Panasonic induction rice cooker. This is not the Ranasonik, which was the first tenovaya cartoon. My rice cooker does not have milk modes at all (logical))), it boils at the beginning (for ordinary rice) or at the end (for brown rice). Therefore, milk is constantly coiled up through the valve. I've tried it already. And besides, the problem of smell is not solved. In the rice cooker, I cook everything.
vernisag
It is clear, then I mixed up something ...
Buy then Panasonic 10, they are still on sale.
petu
Quote: Scarecrow
In my opinion, he is much heavier than Phillips.
it seemed - about the same ... But in general, how many people, so many opinions ... Here they repeatedly complained about escaping from Panasonic10 milk porridge, even Rita-mamusi wrote about this in response to my --- what is my for 8 years there was not a single escape from it ..., but in the subject of Panasonic), someone wrote that the soup was gushing through the valve. once (the milk was freshly opened), now I will cook in it only on * baby food *) - what is it for, - like the cartoon - we adapt, no - no, and there is no trial ,,,,
Scarecrow
Quote: vernisag

It is clear, then I mixed up something ...
Buy then Panasonic 10, they are still on sale.

You have not confused anything. Panas, very handsome, but this is a rice cooker I use as a cartoon.
Nooo, I'm still going to suffer with Phillips!))) And there is still a spaceship released!
Pchela maja
Quote: petu

it seemed - about the same ... But in general, how many people, so many opinions ... Here they repeatedly complained about escaping from Panasonic10 milk porridge, even Rita-mamusi wrote about this in response to my --- what is my for 8 years there was not a single escape from it ..., but in the subject of Panasonic), someone wrote that the soup was gushing through the valve. Today I have rice porridge on a postponement in Redik01, a removable lid was spattered so that in Filka I did not have any once (the milk was freshly opened), now I will cook in it only on * baby food *) - what is it for, - like the cartoon - we adapt, no - no, and there is no trial ,,,,
I will support, in the rare 01 sometimes milk porridges run on the Porridge program.
I haven’t had such an experience with Phillips yet, but I rarely cook in it, more and more in a small Panasonic, now I’m the main one for cereals and side dishes, and I also fry cutlets in it.
brendabaker
Quote: Rita

Pronay, in your case, there is a factory defect, so you need to attach a letter with photographs, as advised above. It would also be a good idea to consult with consumer protection about your rights.
t
Is it possible to change the entire multicooker while it is under warranty and not focus on the bowl. After all, then there will definitely be a new cup.
brendabaker
All the same, I cooked soup with meatballs on the Porridge program for 20 minutes, because it took a long time to boil. There was a lot of foam, the smell and taste were good, but the vegetables were out of shape. It means it's too hot for them on PORSE.
It didn't work out without hassle because of the foam, that is, everything is the same as in the rice cooker.
So I will pick up either hand or omelet
valerria87
Girls have a nice day !!!
I'm still getting used to the filipka, a couple of questions have appeared. I cooked eggs (the program is just super) and for 5 minutes as in Manna's video and for 10 minutes there was always a boiling boil))) but it's not scary, please tell me what to do so that later the eggs are cleaned well, I've already cooked with salt, that's all - are equally problematic.
Then I baked charlotte according to the recipe from the book, increased the number of apples according to your recommendations in the topic, it baked well, it moved away from the bowl just fine, but it lacked something in taste, it was somehow fresh and plump, I am a mediocre cook. Can you please tell me what else I needed to add
petu
Lera, someone has already raised this problem - * eggs *, so that they would be cleaned well after the mullet, they would not come to anything specific ... and they were put on ice. and a lot of other things --- they are poorly cleaned (this is really not my conclusions ..) .... charlotte - maybe the eggs are poorly beaten or the flour has been shifted (the dough should be like sour cream, that is, not with spoons - into a bowl, but how - to pour .. - the recipe for our multi is great, but I make the dough for charlotte about the same consistency
Doxie
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Nata, the problem is the inconsistency of Filkin's character The same proportions, products, and the result is sometimes different

I’m judging by my two - they themselves differ a little, as it turned out. The one whose sticker was easily removed is very smart - I have meat, vegetables, etc. in it.But porridge in my native mode or even cocoa according to the recipes of girls from the topic escapes in a moment, you just have to turn away ...

And the one who had a bad tearing off turned out to be a smooth soft heating in the "porridge" mode, it cooks porridge and cocoa with a bang. So far I have left it for these purposes.

How so? This, of course, does not mean that everyone with a "bad" sticker will cook porridge well and vice versa, but there is clearly a difference in batches, which is not very good. But I'm terribly happy with both of them.
innesss-ka
So all theories about different voltages in networks, lunar phases, etc. have been destroyed.Yeah, well, phillips ...
And you, Sonya, are lucky!
Tanya-Fanya
Sonya, there is even some kind of mysticism in this :-)
I bought the first Filipka so that my daughter (a student, I was on vacation) would teach me how to cook in it.We mastered it in a week thanks to the friendly company of this Temko. All the sticky stickers came off like clockwork, I was still surprised that some here complained that the stickers did not come off.
I bought myself the same Filia in the same store, that is, with an interval of a week. I tore off this sticker with the help of my husband and some of his gadgets like solvents.
And finally, the first Filya is really "not a greyhound", but calm. The second, that is, my copy, it seems to me, has a feminine capricious character and clearly tracks the lunar cycles.
Doxie
innesss-ka, I was still surprised when I read good results on porridge on the first pages.
Because the first filka successfully failed this business. But it's good that the girls were immediately warned of possible problems with this model and I didn't expect anything special in this regard and didn't buy for cereals.

And in the second it turned out like that ...

The first "greyhound" film my water boiled a little earlier than in the dough from Manna.
In the second - a minute later.

Tanya-Fanya, exactly. And here it doesn’t even depend on which sticker comes across, I think, just different parties.
Scarecrow
Doxie,

And the different behavior of the stickers can be and indicate different lots / place of production, and therefore behave differently.
Doxie
Scarecrow, Yes, probably.
It is a pity that the sticker can hardly determine what it will turn out to be - there may also be different parties, most likely. Tanya with a "good" sticker turned out to be quite obedient, while with me it was the opposite.
brendabaker
My Philips perfectly boils hard cereals such as barley, brown rice, buckwheat, for which I am very grateful to him. And all without my control, threw it and left. She also cooks rice porridge deliciously in water. Fries one serving of potatoes, bakes vegetables, including ice creams. I cooked pasties, it was tasty and it took little oil. About curd baked goods, a little dry for my taste
I can't find a program for soups yet

If Phillips had been called not a multicooker, but a cereal cooker plus, or a rice cooker plus, this would be more in line with it.
By the way, on EGGS yesterday the lean borsch with the 'spoon worth' consistency warmed up perfectly.
Biryusa
Quote: Doxie
The one with the sticker removed easily is very smart.
And the one who had a bad tearing off turned out to be a smooth soft heating in the "porridge" mode, it cooks porridge and cocoa with a bang.
Right after buying Filka, I had this assumption, but hesitated to voice it on the forum
If anything, I still could not tame my cartoon for cooking milk porridge. Even on Manual at 90 * out of five times, there were necessarily at least three escapes
lira3003
Quote: Biryusa
Manual at 90 * out of five times, there were necessarily at least three shoots
I will not get up, I will only use for baking and frying! Thank you for sharing your experience!
Stafa
My sticker was shot with some kind of mother, and the film is unpredictable, but the oatmeal escapes, although I cook in the proportion of 1/4 mst (not the film, but the usual mstakan) oatmeal and 1 mst half milk, in the same proportion for the omelet 90C and 20 min - an incomprehensible slurry with a taste of raw oatmeal. Three times I cooked millet in water like Lena Antonovka set up the recipe, a very good porridge turned out, today I cooked it from the same millet - an incomprehensible lump of millet.
RepeShock
Quote: innesss-ka
So all theories about different voltages in networks have been destroyed.

Nothing of the kind, the operation of the mv depends very much on the voltage in the network. Not only this one, of course.
Any household appliances.
Melalenka
Pronay,
I recommend contacting the Philips branded SC under warranty. They will make an examination of the bowl - it's free. I had a positive experience of contacting them.
Biryusa
Quote: Pronay
unanimously, they say that the guarantee is only for the heating element ... It's a pity so mulka, so I liked it ...
Phillips' hotline responded the same way ...
And I also recommend contacting Natasha, just in case.Bast1nda
Quote: Bast1nda
Anyone who will have problems with the return of a cartoon (pah-pah, but it happens) - write to your personal mail, samples of a pre-trial claim and I will send a claim.
innesss-ka
Quote: RepeShock
the operation of the mV depends very much on the voltage in the network.Not only this one, of course.
Any household appliances.
So I do not deny it. But in the above example, two multicooker of the same model are in the same conditions (mains voltage), and the result is different. It is logical to assume that, at least in this particular case, it is not (or not only) tension.
Seven-year plan
Quote: valerria87

Then I baked charlotte, ....... but I lacked something to taste, it was somehow bland and plump, I am a mediocre cook. Can you please tell me what else I needed to add

Valeria, so that the baked goods are not bland - be sure to add a pinch of salt !!! (In any baked goods!)
And plump ... two options - poorly beat the eggs or shifted the flour!
And yet, when they put the flour, mix it very carefully with the eggs! ...
RepeShock
Quote: innesss-ka
It is logical to assume that, at least in this particular case, it is not (or not only) tension.

Of course, it's logical))) You don't think about it at all, in this example)
I do not see anything surprising in the fact that they are different)
Doxie
Quote: RepeShock
I do not see anything surprising in the fact that they are different)

Yes. After all, there are probably some tolerances in the games ...

But it still seems to me that if they work fine in one mode, and not in the other, this still does not really fit into the permissible.

I will poyuzayu-compare both still, maybe, on the contrary, in the "cash" film some kind of marriage will come out. But for now, like that.
RepeShock
Quote: Doxie
but not in the other

Yes of course. On the good, all modes for all mVs should work correctly, even with acceptable deviations.
Unfortunately, this is not the case here.
brendabaker
Regarding milk porridges, Anna Kitaeva in the book 'Me and My Multicooker' advises to cook rolled oats on a strong program with an open lid, stirring, and then leave to heat until thickened. but in my old ZELMER I adapted to set it for 7 minutes, this was enough to warm up the bowl, and then it itself on heating for 1 hour reached good taste and density. You can contrive here too, I think
Wildebeest
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