Which bread maker to buy?

Compressed yeast is also an isk yeast. but the leaven is alive! Looked at the Belleville site. com. ay, yes, their HP is a thing for $ 350.If Bork 800 is a clone of this divine furnace, hmm, maybe you should take a closer look ...

Dancing with a tambourine is not necessary at all, as far as I know, tremors were invented at the beginning of the 20th century, and they began to be used for quick germination in production and they are not at all useful for microflora, and tenacious, unlike useful ones, and the leaven is wild natural yeast.

Compressed yeast is also an isk yeast. but the leaven is alive! Looked at the Belleville site. com. ay, yes, their hp is a thing for $ 350.If Bork 800 is a clone of this divine furnace, hmm, maybe you should take a closer look ...

It's not a clone, it's just a tag on it.
I explain to you all evening.

And yeast lives in any sourdough, even if you didn't add it there.
Take this to the laboratory and take it easy with it.

help determine with HB Moulinex OW 200033 (OW 2000) or Philips HD9020 or Supra BMS-355, which is better and why. Already my head is spinning from this choice

[Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.]

help determine with HB Moulinex OW 200033 (OW 2000) or Philips HD9020 or Supra BMS-355, which is better and why. Already my head is spinning from this choice

Do you have others nearby?
Supra BMS-355 is easy to get rye,
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.,
in other named I do not know, you need to look.

[Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.]

Do you have others nearby?
Supra BMS-355 is easy to get rye,
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.,
in other named I do not know, you need to look.

I consider all the options, it's just that these models have all the functions I need and the price

I consider all the options, it's just that these models have all the functions I need and the price

So reflect everything that is good value for money.

Good night everyone!
Here I sit and read, read, read about all sorts of HP. Not that the head is spinning, but the eyes are already out of orbits from the information read. I don't know which one to choose from: Moulinex 3101, Moulinex 2000, Supra BMS-230, Supra BMS-355, Daewoo Int. DI-9145, Kenwood BM-350. The goal is to bake healthy, mainly rye bread, sweet pastries, knead the dough trembling. Please help me with a choice, otherwise I’ll go crazy! Chagall on the price, because so far I decided not to spend a decent amount on ethno business! I thought at first Mulya 3101, but there is no rye. and there is no test either. Therefore, I made me think ...

[Moulinex 3101, Moulinex 2000, Supra BMS-230, Supra BMS-355, Daewoo Int. DI-9145, Kenwood BM-350.]

Good night everyone!
Here I sit and read, read, read about all sorts of HP. Not that the head is spinning, but the eyes are already out of orbits from the information read. I don't know which one to choose from: Moulinex 3101, Moulinex 2000, Supra BMS-230, Supra BMS-355, Daewoo Int. DI-9145, Kenwood BM-350. The goal is to bake healthy, mostly rye bread, sweet pastries, knead the trembling dough. Please help me with a choice, otherwise I’ll go crazy! Chagall on the price, because so far I decided not to spend a decent amount on ethno business! I thought at first Mule 3101, but there is no rye. and there is no test either. Therefore, I made me think ...

Rye from the presented list can be baked easily, now I will lay out a list.

This bread maker is also programmable. Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.0
Program number 12 "Your recipe"
Step Action Possible values
1 Kneading 1 6 - 14 min.
2 Ascent 1 20 - 60 min.
3 Kneading 2 5 - 20 min.
4 Ascent 2 5 - 120 min.
5 Ascent 3 0 - 120 min.
6 Bake 0 - 80 min.
7 Heating 0 - 60 min.

This programmable bread maker has a high power of 815 W and bakes bread weighing up to 1400 g. It has two baking containers that allow, apart from one large one, to bake two small breads at once and according to different recipes, but with similar stages.

Now I will continue the list.
Moulinex for this money will not live up to expectations,
but in the 3000 series you can also bake rye, read here -
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.0

I keep writing
tired of describing not very successful models
take Daewoo DI-9154, she at least always saves the situation with the programming mode, this mode is really not ideal for her, but it is quite good.

How much money is not expensive for you?

On the market Daewoo DI-9154 RUB 4500 - that would not take her for that kind of money.
There are a lot of cooler offers for this amount.

For that kind of money, a very good oven is available in Moscow, in which everything is decided with bread - this is Brand 3801.

[Daewoo DI-9154]

Rye from the presented list can be baked easily, now I will lay out a list.

This bread maker is also programmable. Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.0
Program number 12 "Your recipe"
Step Action Possible values
1 Kneading 1 6 - 14 min.
2 Ascent 1 20 - 60 min.
3 Kneading 2 5 - 20 min.
4 Ascent 2 5 - 120 min.
5 Ascent 3 0 - 120 min.
6 Bake 0 - 80 min.
7 Heating 0 - 60 min.

This programmable bread maker has a high power of 815 W and bakes bread weighing up to 1400 g. It has two baking containers that allow, apart from one large one, to bake two small breads at once and according to different recipes, but with similar stages.

Now I will continue the list.
Moulinex for this money will not live up to expectations,
but in the 3000 series you can also bake rye, read here -
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.0

I keep writing
tired of describing not very successful models
take Daewoo DI-9154, she at least always saves the situation with the programming mode, this mode is really not ideal for her, but it is quite good.

How much money is not expensive for you?
On the market Daewoo DI-9154 RUB 4500 - that would not take her for that kind of money.
There are a lot of cooler offers for this amount.

Thank you for your help and your prompt response!
These models, which I have noted here, are exactly in the range that I plan to spend on HP. I do not know if it is possible to indicate here whether it will not be advertising, but on a site, for example, Daewoo (Only the model is not 9154 but 9145) costs 3299r. and Mula 2000 for example 3399r. But I have already revised, the prices vary so much on the network that I decided to just write those models here. Well, actually, what I want from them. I understand that Daewoo 9145 is the best from the list? Many people, I look at the forum, bake white, but I am more interested in rye (it hurts to look like the one I wish you gave, from the author Alxndr. This is just such in dreams, but while dreams are drawing bread, with a classic taste, that is, without additives), and of course a baguette, with sweet pastries I would like.

[Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.]

Thank you for your help and your prompt response!
These models, which I have noted here, are exactly in the range that I plan to spend on HP. I do not know if it is possible to indicate here whether it will not be advertising, but on a site, for example, Daewoo costs 3299r. and Mula 2000 for example 3399r. But I have already revised, the prices vary so much on the network that I decided to just write those models here. Well, actually, what I want from them. I understand that Daewoo 9145 is the best from the list? Many people, I look at the forum, bake white, but I am more interested in rye (it hurts to look like the one I wish you gave, from the author Alxndr. This is just such in dreams, but while dreams are drawing bread, with a classic taste, that is, without additives), and of course a baguette, with sweet pastries I would like.

A baguette is always handmade and small buns for one tooth, you must understand this.
And the bread that you liked with the list of bread makers here -
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.

Now I'll see what kind of model Daewoo DI-9145, sorry, I didn’t see the numbers.
Yes, this is a completely different model. I did not find the instruction.

[Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.]

A baguette is always handmade and small buns for one tooth, you must understand this.
And the bread that you liked with the list of bread makers here -
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.

Now I'll see what kind of model Daewoo DI-9145, sorry, I didn’t see the numbers.
Yes, this is a completely different model. I did not find the instruction.

Of course, I want to bake the baguette, I think over time I will figure out what and how to turn it on at what time, I will adapt myself so to speak. Now you need to decide on the model and go to take the fortress

[Saturn ST-EC0122]

I saw such a mini bread maker in COMFY today! The bucket is so tiny, they write that the maximum bread is 540 g. For one eater or two, that's it. But I wonder how she bakes? And the price is quite low - 255 UAH.

Saturn ST-EC0122



Power (W): 530 W
Number of programs: 5 digital
Maximum baking weight, (g): 540
Body material: non-stick coating
Measuring glass and spoon

[Luysia]

Oh, Luysia, it looks eerily like my first bread maker - Binatone 1008.
She baked very, very well. Only my bread was constantly sticking out of the bucket ...

Yes, the bucket is very, very small, almost like a toy.

It's not a toy !!! That loaf was enough for us for 2-3 days ...
Read, I wrote in the topic about Beanaton 1008.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2004.0
Only after a voltage drop does the stove turn on, and the programs are not executed ... It's a pity, I loved her ...

I want this for a long time

How would you ship it?

Asked in a neighboring topic about this oven, Applica Breadman Bread Maker BK1050S
but, as it turned out, it is the same as the kenwood 450, in general, you probably need to take the brand already.

[Asked in a neighboring topic about this oven, Applica Breadman Bread Maker BK1050S]

Asked in a neighboring topic about this oven, Applica Breadman Bread Maker BK1050S
but how it turned out she's the same as kenwood 450, it's just nonsense in general, you probably need to take the brand already.

Who wrote this to you? Apparently the user of this product and the second one too, no less.
The one who wrote this to you was simply mistaken.
Kenwood 450 is a worthy competitor for example Panasonic, it has very few oversights in programming capabilities and 5 user programs for programming their recipes.
And Breadman-Bread-Maker-BK1050S - 12 simple modes and this is not a programmable oven, I already wrote to you. At least count the number of buttons, and the price speaks about it.
And in order not to rewrite nonsense from post to post here, first find instructions from the "miracle" Breadman-Bread-Maker-BK1050S - if you find it (there is a chuckle) and compare it on paper with the programs and capabilities of Kenwood 450. The question will fall off.

I understand, of course, the agony of choice, but it is not necessary to rewrite nonsense.
What do these two models have in common?
then only stainless steel case.

Hello everyone, I want to join the ranks of HP, at first I chose between the Kenwood 450 and the Panasonic 2500 or 2501, they say Kenwood is noisy, it doesn't suit me, then 2500 or 2501, maybe 2500 is enough, is there a rye oven? I also want something sweet .... and still it might not be worth driving and buying a cheaper model?

Hello everyone, I want to join the ranks of HP, at first I chose between the Kenwood 450 and the Panasonic 2500 or 2501, they say Kenwood is noisy, it doesn't suit me, then 2500 or 2501, maybe 2500 is enough, is there a rye oven? I also want something sweet .... and still it might not be worth driving and buying a cheaper model?

You can have a cheap one, you can also 2500. But the cheaper one will be noisier. In Panasonic, you can bake sweets without any problems.

In Panasonic, you can bake sweets without any problems.

and in which with problems? can I read the whole list? And, Sasha, is this your personal IMHO or observation as a service worker? why you and

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and in which with problems? can I read the whole list? And, Sasha, is this your personal IMHO or observation as a service worker? why you and

In Panasonic with sweet pastries, some problems may arise, that is, you cannot do without special measures (selection of the mode and size) In other HP this usually not visible.

So I did not understand whether it is problematic in Panasonic or not to bake sweet pastries?

Everything, ordered, Panas 2501, I hope I will be satisfied

You will be happy ..

Believe me, if you come across dissatisfied with Panasonic, then there are only a few of them. Usually these are people who are extremely nervous for whom everything is wrong in this life. And such people, whether they cook or bake bread, never like it. And there will never be a good result.

Thanks to your forum, I understand that I will bake from the beginning, can you tell me from what recipes, I read about the kolobok, and are electronic scales really needed?

Thanks to your forum, I understand that I will bake from the beginning, can you tell me from what recipes, I read about the kolobok, and are electronic scales really needed?

Start with the basic white bread from the instructions! Scales are highly desirable but not required

[HERE (mouse click)]

Thanks to your forum, I understand that I will bake from the beginning, can you tell me from what recipes, I read about the kolobok, and are electronic scales really needed?

Here HERE (mouse click) all the links and tips you need to get started with Panasonic ...

and about the amount of ingredients, and the initial recipes, and the manual, and the kolobok ...

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In Panasonic with sweet pastries, some problems may arise, that is, you cannot do without special measures (selection of the mode and size) In other HP this usually not visible.

Sasha! I have a Panasonic (and a brand) - no problems with sweet bread - neither in Panas, nor in a brand! Very good programs in both stoves .....

Olga! I said so because Panasonic has NO sweet programs.

But there is "Dietetic", and all the recipes on pages 16 and 17 are recipes for sweet bread for the "Dietetic" program - with raisins, Easter cake, etc.
Sasha, the argument is about nothing. The Panasonic oven is one of the best in Russia.

Sasha, the argument is about nothing. The Panasonic oven is one of the best in Russia.

not the best this is Zozhirushi https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0

[Sasha]

Sasha,

Sasha, the argument is about nothing. Panasonic - oven - one of the best in Russia .

And zozhirushi (or what is it there?) In Russia, as far as I know, in free sale (and adaptations for the Russian and European markets) are not.

[Sasha]

Sasha,
And zozhirushi (or what is it there?) In Russia, as far as I know, in free sale (and adaptations for the Russian and European markets) are not.

Well then, it will qualify, at least for the DeLonghi EOB 2071 medal https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0

Then the best, it is in Russia, should be Bork 800 at a price no more than this same zozhirushi, and in terms of functions it is really the best in Russia.

I read and read, I was completely confused. I choose a budget stove, I don't understand them at all. I want the loaf not to be round, the ability to choose the size of the bread so that it can knead any dough. If there are 2 blades in the stove, what are the differences with one? The oven will be normal and with bran is obligatory (the husband only eats it). I would be glad to have any hints! Thank you.

I read and read, I was completely confused. I choose a budget stove, I don't understand them at all. I want the loaf not to be round, the ability to choose the size of the bread so that it can knead any dough. If there are 2 blades in the stove, what are the differences with one? The oven will be normal and with bran is obligatory (the husband only eats it). I would be glad to have any hints! Thank you.

Write the budget.
And the whole list of stoves available to you in local stores.

Thank you for responding. In general, I would like up to 700 UAH. I live in a small town, there are almost no shops, on Easter there was an action at Rotex in Tair, my friend took it, it seems like she was happy. There is a store that can bring several models to order, I went to them, they advised me Liberton with two mixers, but I almost did not find any reviews here. Probably Dex is, because she took the multicooker from them. I bake a lot in the oven too, so I need to knead the dough well, not only for bread, since I don't have a combine. Tomorrow I'll come and find out what models they can bring, today is a day off.

In our city from the budget, they sell only Libertons and Myrtas. I almost did not find any reviews. Who has Liberton LBM_05? How does he knead the dough in Dough mode?
1.Basic - Regular bread
2. Quick - Fast food
3. French - French
4.Rapid - Express
5.Whole Wheat - Whole grain bread
6.Sweet - Sweet
7.Dough - Dough
8.Bake - Vipechka
9.Jam - Jam
10.Sandwich - Sandwiches

I have Liberton, though I don't remember the model. I only use Regular Bread, Whole Grain, Dough and Jam modes. I have not tried instant cooking at all. I tried sweet once - my cupcake was not finished, and I spat on this business. I have had HP for several years, until I complain. Although when the electricity jumps, she does not like to bake bread. He does not rise. And so, everything is fine.

I have Liberton, though I don't remember the model. I only use Regular Bread, Whole Grain, Dough and Jam modes. I have not tried instant cooking at all. I tried sweet once - my cupcake was not finished, and I spat on this business. I have had HP for several years, until I complain. Although when the electricity jumps, she does not like to bake bread. He does not rise. And so, everything is fine.

Thanks for the answer, I already bought it. She is for 2 stirrers. Baked white wheat for "French", and wheat with bran on the Main, everything is fine. Today I made pizza dough, generally class. In the morning I took my son to school and while the youngest woke up, my HP kneads the dough, cooks the cartoon porridge, and the machine erases, not life, but a dream !!!

When I bought, I also could not decide on the brand. I was bribed by the comment of a boy-seller: consumables are cheaper for libertons than for imported models and service centers in almost all regional centers. but otherwise it is no worse and no better than imported counterparts. I liked his comment.

was a ski lasted 5 years broke unexpectedly now I choose a stove for myself. they say panas bread tastes different from skiing, is it so? I think to take Panas.

was a ski lasted 5 years broke unexpectedly now I choose a stove for myself. they say panas bread tastes different from skiing, is it so? I think to take Panas.

With all the progress of manufacturers, Panasonic remains a good decision and acquisition.

Two weeks ago I changed the old Ski to Panas 2501, well, I'm very happy

Recommend the most suitable oven for baking rye bread without adding wheat in automatic mode. I understand it should be fully programmable. kenwood 450 is said to be inappropriate, because at the wrong moment the scapula jerks.

Brand 3801, DeLonghi BDM-125S, Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20, Bork X800

[kenwood 450 say does not fit]

Recommend the most suitable oven for baking rye bread without adding wheat in automatic mode. I understand it should be fully programmable. kenwood 450 say does not fit, since at the wrong moment the scapula jerks.

Fits, Fits Kenwood BM-450!
And what is the budget?
What stoves are available? Announce the entire list, please.

Or you will buy it by mail.
A full machine with pure rye will still not work, at least 15 minutes will have to be given to the batch.

I was led to the program by the Russian chef and the fact that the program can bake rye bread bought this stove, however, it is not realistic to do pure rye (without adding wheat flour) in automatic mode, apparently all that remains is to pull out the blades after kneading so that molding does not take place, otherwise the bread falls ...

Is it even possible to make rye in this oven (yeast or sourdough) bread in automatic mode, or was I mistaken in my choice, taking a bite at the marketing move of LG with its "Russian" chef? Experienced bakers, share your secrets, because if you switch programs and pull out the scapula, the whole point in this bread maker disappears - it is better to do it in the oven in this case.

Read here -
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.

[Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.]

Fits, Fits Kenwood BM-450!

In the same place, a maximum of an hour seems to be obtained, and if it is more, then the shoulder blades jerk between lifting, that's why I have my usual rye donkey in LG.

And what is the budget?
What stoves are available? Announce the entire list, please.

Yes, in general, any that is on the Yandex market. There seems to be no more than 10 tyrs.

A full machine with pure rye will still not work, at least 15 minutes will have to be given to the batch.

15 minutes digging with a spatula on the walls is not 3 hours jumping around the stove rearranging the programs. It was kneaded into the LV without help, as a result, only once at the very beginning, with a spatula, I lowered the adhering one from the walls, but this is my own fault, I fell asleep the wrong sequence of products.

Read here -
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.

I have already re-read your recipes, they are very interesting and probably delicious, but it is unrealistic to fit them under the machine on my stove, and the stove was bought for the sake of the machine. Now I'm thinking about buying another, fully programmable one. Although it is necessary to try your recipe for how to bake, it may not settle at the moments of molding ... But for the sourdough, no program can be adjusted for sure!
And so I wanted real purely rye homemade bread, as my grandmother did once long ago in a Russian oven, but without a huge waste of time.