sazalexter
vanq Well then Brand 3801 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152895.0 or Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20,https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0 You won't find DeLonghi BDM-125S, it looks like it has been discontinued
Vanya28
vanq with a tambourine and approach to your stove after an hour of raising the dough, to switch to the mode Bakery products, rye turns out.
I have an explanation in the thread for LG on how to do this.
If you want to get an "automatic" and at the same time the correct budget model for sourdough rye - then only Brand 3801.
vanq
Quote: sazalexter

vanq Well then Brand 3801 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152895.0

yes, the functionality is just right, especially in new batches they promise to improve even more. The only confusing thing is that this is a pure Chinese OEM, it will be like with BORK, where they are new factories and models every half a year, and the old ones, in case of a breakdown, are immediately thrown into the trash heap, and have already thrown out 2 things from the collection for this reason, since to him and others like them a bad attitude.


or Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20,https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0 You won't find DeLonghi BDM-125S, it looks like it has been discontinued

the first to order only from America, apparently, but delonghi generally abandoned the production of bread makers!

sazalexter
Quote: vanq


and delonghi seems to have given up making bread makers altogether!
Well, that's not entirely true DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0
vanq
Quote: Vanya28

vanq with a tambourine and approach to your stove after an hour of raising the dough, to switch to the mode Bakery products, rye turns out.
I have an explanation in the thread for LG on how to do this.

Yes, everything works out with a tambourine, but I still want a machine gun


If you want to get an "automatic" and at the same time the correct budget model for sourdough rye - then only Brand 3801.

As I wrote above in Brand, only pure Chinese OEM confuses me. Well, people have some kind of problems with a pale top + someone's bucket peeled off in 8 days ...

But there are gorenje furnaces, according to the descriptions there you can also compose programs yourself, although it is not clear from the manual whether the molding is disabled there ...

And what are the "non-budget" options, but with support and the ability to buy something in the future in Russia? Except for all the Borks and the like ...

PS: Eh, it's a pity that the HP is not * nix systems, it would be much simpler! ) The controller is something to pick, maybe you can reprogram it on the programmer somehow ...
sazalexter
Quote: vanq

But there are gorenje ovens, according to the descriptions there you can also compose programs yourself, although it is not clear from the manual whether the molding is disabled there ...
gorenje is pure ODM
Regarding the * nix system, we have those who wish here, but only closed it is infa. The controller in Panasonic SD255 is manufactured by Panasonic MN15G1601JS1, which is typical for the products of the company datasheet
all logic is collected in it
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=99982.20
sazalexter
Quote: vanq

And what are the "non-budget" options, but with support and the ability to buy something in the future in Russia? Except for all the Borks and the like ...
This is Panasonic is an Automatic, Kenwood \ Delongi is a semi-automatic, LG is an Automatic, Mulinex is an Automatic. These are all HP of our own production and design. Actually everything else is OEM-ODM https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0
PS: still Zozhirushi, but without service, but it's like Maybach in cars
alexzander
Can you say something about the Midea AHS20AC-S bread maker. ?
Similar to Panasonic 2502, Belarusian assembly
Gypsy
Midea is kind of like a Chinese old firm. Do they have a branch in Belarus now?
alexzander
They have been collecting microwaves at the Atlanta branch for 4 years already (refrigerators and washers)
alexzander
I just saw such a stove, I'm thinking about expediency, anyway, almost all electronics are made in China,
who can use it?
Vanya28
Here is a bunch of excellent stoves and what attracts the incomprehensible?
The spirit of adventure or what?
Savings are doubtful, even more so!
So buy yourself a medal right away!

Chocolate!
shade
peace be with you!
alexzander-
as far as I know Midea specializes in air conditioners
IRR
Quote: shade

Peace be with you!
alexzander-
as far as I know Midea specializes in air conditioners

I have a YUMMI multicooker - assembled at the Mideevsky plant. No complaints for 3 years.

Which bread maker to buy?
Quote: Vanya28

Here is a bunch of excellent stoves and what attracts the incomprehensible?

and also bought it, as incomprehensible , I read then, you should not save, buy MV Panasonic.
so, Vanya, buy yourself a medal, or better bake - for lyuboff to brands

(but! I don’t trust the hands of our manufacturers too much. China is better for me) and you decide for yourself. We can, your hands are like hands.
Vanya28
Quote: IRR

I have a YUMMI multicooker - assembled at the Mideevsky plant. No complaints for 3 years.

Which bread maker to buy?
and also bought it as incomprehensible , I read then, you shouldn't save, buy MV Panasonic.
so, Vanya, buy yourself a medal, or better bake - for lyuboff to brands

(but! I don’t trust the hands of our manufacturers too much. China is better for me) and you decide for yourself. We can, your hands are like hands.

Yeah, like a masterpiece of Russell Hobbs' "English" thought flight.
Here you go ---- >> Looking for adventure and sometimes exceptions
alexzander
Thanks for the advice !!!!
In fact, 100 bucks is a pity, I was in Postavy at the factory, where they began to assemble the Midea, as if I liked it, neatly, without haste, but about the curvature of the hands, doubts and gnaw, that's why I climbed for advice!
I like Panasonic 2501, 2502 more, but there are very few differences, even outwardly.
Rather, I will bow to the Japs, while I bake with my hands, Mulya covered herself, vowed not to buy this brand.
Vanya28
Quote: alexzander

Thanks for the advice !!!!
In fact, 100 bucks is a pity, I was in Postavy at the factory, where they began to assemble the Midea, as if I liked it, neatly, without haste, but about the curvature of the hands, doubts and gnaw, that's why I climbed for advice!
I like Panasonic 2501, 2502 more, but there are very few differences, even outwardly.
Rather, I will bow to the Japs, while I bake with my hands, Mulya covered herself, vowed not to buy this brand.

Eating savings, take 2500.
He bakes everything in the same way as his older brothers.
Another option to save money is to buy a discontinued Panasonic model.
alexzander
No, here the difference is 5 bucks, but the functionality is poorer, the chip costs a different one, there is no dispenser, there are more disadvantages (shortages) than advantages in price.
We have a cartoon River, like a Chinese one, but it works well, and it's convenient, almost everything is disassembled for washing, at a reasonable price
alexzander
Have you tried the durum oven (durum wheat)?
IRR
Quote: Vanya28

Yeah, like a masterpiece of Russell Hobbs' "English" thought flight.
Here you go ---- >> Looking for adventure and sometimes exceptions
Well, or here --- >> _
well sent so sent
Is this a Panasik clone? And on authentic Panasonic it is also possible to bake a joint, there were precedents.
alexzander!- we have a branch in Minsk and quite active, ask the girls there, we can, someone uses it.

Tyts (sorry, I see that you have already registered there)
Gypsy
Durum is not for baking, but for pasta (pasta, noodles)
v_zhdanov
Tell me, pliz, which bread machine has a stainless steel baking bowl. Teflon would not be desirable because of harm. Well, it is desirable that it would be quiet.
Gypsy
There are no such and will not be from a stainless steel you will not tear your bread.
They are all not noisy .. I think so
v_zhdanov
That's a shame. And now, there is bread with Teflon carcinogens? Maybe not stainless steel, but something not as harmful as Teflon?
sazalexter
v_zhdanov Calm down, about the "harm" of Teflon has already been discussed on the forum more than once !!! Look. For the record, Teflon is used everywhere, from food and medicine to space, no one has died except one rabid parrot.
Svetik8189
Hello! I can't decide which bread maker (in this price category, I don't consider branded ones - it's expensive) is more reliable and better:
1. Delfa DB 104708
2. Saturn ST-EC7774
3. Orion OBM-204
And what is better when 1 mixer or 2? Everything is Chinese, but Saturn has a 2 year guarantee ..... Tell me, pliiiz, who had experience with these models. Thank you in advance!
Gypsy
2 mixers are usually in ovens with a large bucket volume, decide how much bread you eat and how much you like fresh.
Svetik8189
700-900gr. a loaf would be enough. The main advantage is in choosing that the bread maker is made of stainless steel. The more powerful the better? Help with a reliable firm to decide and so that she bakes good bread ...
Gypsy
Do not look at the power, look at the reviews and photos of the finished bread. Look closely at the top of the bread, if it is much lighter on the sides - the oven is not great.
700-900 is with one stirrer.
Vanya28
Quote: Svetik8189

Hello! I can't decide which bread machine (in this price category, I don't consider branded ones - it's expensive) is more reliable and better:
1. Delfa DB 104708
2. Saturn ST-EC7774
3. Orion OBM-204
And what is better when 1 mixer or 2? Everything is Chinese, but Saturn has a 2 year guarantee ..... Tell me, pliiiz, who had experience with these models. Thank you in advance!

So everything is very simple, you read in the relevant sections what and how they bake in these ovens, what sufferings and successes, you will see all the minuses and pluses.
Gypsy
And for what reason is a stainless steel needed? to blend in with the kitchen?
Darya
Tell me what kind of bread maker to buy, otherwise I got very confused.
the choice is still out of 2 (or suggest another)
- Kenwood BM450
- Panasonic SD-ZB2502

you need to knead the dough (for dumplings, dumplings), cook jam (a little), and make various delicious bread!
Budget up to 8 tons.
Rina
if the "stainless steel" design is not critical, then you can look at Panas 2501 - minus, well, a very good amount due to the absence of a yeast dispenser. This dispenser is needed only if the handles are very curved (99.9% of bakers do just fine without it).

We have forum users who compared (in reality) the work of Panasonic and Kenwood. Panas benefits from normal quiet operation.
Vanya28
Quote: Darka

Tell me what kind of bread maker to buy, otherwise I got very confused.
the choice is still out of 2 (or suggest another)
- Kenwood BM450
- Panasonic SD-ZB2502

you need to knead the dough (for dumplings, dumplings), cook jam (a little), and make various delicious bread!
Budget up to 8 tons.

All this, these two stoves are doing.
Panasonic is good for everyone, but not flexible due to the lack of programming, therefore, it requires dancing around it with sourdough bread and with some varieties of rye bread.
Kenwood has the ability to record 5 of its settings, which is convenient, performs the kneading louder, but works much quieter than a conventional food processor.
Darya
I forgot to clarify, I still want a dough for pies to knead, that is, yeast ..
And the steel color is critical, for the interior you want.
Vanya28
Quote: Darka

I forgot to clarify, I still want a dough for pies to knead, that is, yeast ..
And the steel color is critical, you want it to match the interior.

Color is good!
But you have to make a choice.

Svetik8189
gypsy, stainless steel is needed because we don’t want bread to eat plastic field
Gypsy
complete bullshit. All the same, you will have a paste (frame) in the stove .. but the fact that the piece of iron is stuck on top is so .. for the design and so that you can get more money. Aren't you afraid to eat Teflon?
Svetik8189
nope, I'm not afraid
For some reason, there are very few reviews about Saturn, do not know how they are in operation?
Gypsy
I do not know. Search the forum for reviews
Svetik8189
Tell me, SATURN owners, if there are any, how are these bread machines in operation, how long do they live and how reliable? and what kind of bread is obtained? I'm very interested in the Saturn ST-EC7774 Miranda model. If someone has - RESPOND, pliiiz !!!!
Creamy
There are two pages of reviews of Saturn owners. Go to the Forum, then models of bread makers, your Saturn, in the topic "Other models of bread makers"
marusena
Girls, and what ViTESSE no one has? I liked the size and color. Functions are yogurt and jam. I didn't really consider the rest. what reviews, there is nothing in the branches.
Rina
look for stoves with the same design and set of programs. The names of inexpensive stoves may differ (who will stick which, this will be, and the stoves are from the same plant).
Rina
Quote: Svetik8189

gypsy, stainless steel is needed because we don’t want bread to eat plastic field
Panasonic insides (inner part of the case) made of aluminum alloy. As it seems to me, the rest of the stoves too.
Creamy
Recently, more and more often I observe the following from newcomers: "Oh, help me choose a stove, shook-oo-oo-oo-ah ... And so that it is inexpensive, not branded and it is better to be shiny, well, critically stainless in design. Oh, so that the bread is guaranteed to bake good ... and serve for a long time, here. And this is the very thing, so that without plastic, we will not eat bread after plastic! We have seen enough of these models, then there is a list, sometimes very long, tell us what they differ from each other.An experienced, kind and a little puzzled moderator, of course, gives an answer which of the models can be suitable.the members of the forum also give advice, talking about their stove.But since a beginner has no time or just too lazy to read, study reviews, sufferings and successes bakers, look at photo reports about baked bread, he is not sure that he is being advised sensible. And then the most interesting follows, somewhere at the level of kindergarten, just as childishly capricious: "Oh, well, I don't know ... And what other inexpensive good stoves can you advise? Well, to bake well? A person does not want to work hard and collect information himself, knows almost nothing and at the same time doubts the correctness of the advice given to him. He demands proof of why such a cute and cheap stove that he liked in the store is not included in the list of those recommended by the moderator or members of the forum. Anyone who dares to give advice must reasonably prove that two times two will always be four, and not five, as it seems, or a beginner wants. And how to prove it, if the newbie did not bother to learn the multiplication table, in the sense that he did not familiarize himself at least a little with some branches. My opinion is that you still need to create some kind of mini-manual for a beginner (like the famous "kolobok rule") with which he would familiarize himself, and only then he could ask quite meaningful questions and adequately perceive the advice given to him. This is my opinion. If the moderators find my post in any sense inappropriate, please delete it.
Scarecrow
Look at what beauty I have found. Wasn't there such a thing yet?

Which bread maker to buy?

Which bread maker to buy?

Which bread maker to buy?
Bread maker

SFBM.990

Power: 615W
19 programs, 5 degrees of browning
Touch control panel
3 baking sizes
Illuminated window for process control
Fruit and nut dispenser
Delay start up to 12 hours
LCD screen with visualization of cooking stages
Body material: plastic
Recipe book included
And the cartoon they have what a touch !! Beautiful girl!!

Scarecrow
And here I put everything according to their cartoon:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=165760.0
Gypsy
How was it not ?! long ago Morphy richards had several such models for a long time
Vanya28
Well, yes, another clone from Morphy Richards, like a cloud of Alaska and others like them earlier.

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