cake machine
tumanofaaaa, Congratulations on your purchase. I also have Hephaestus. And I like it. I want to buy a thermometer over time. to be sure of the baking temperature of some things. But even so, adding the temperature by 20 degrees when baking the dough. quite happy with the result. And about the grill burner in general. And I did not know before that this is a very necessary thing in some moments
Pavlova
Loksa, thanks, I'll think about what can be done ... the problem is also that I can only run into the developer, but claims to my stove are set by gasmen ... that is, it seems like the developer has nothing to do with, they say, I don't know anything, they are all there ...
vatruska
Tatyana, now I have read your first post again ...
1. What does the developer have to do with it? Is there a homeowners association? Who owns the house? With whom did you sign the contract?
2. What exactly is written in your contract? If you can quote ... If it is written, as you said "gas-controlled stove", then the arriving people go through the forest ...
3. And who will connect the stove and where does the developer? If, according to the rules - gorgaz technology, then you go to them, conclude a contract for the connection service, pay and solve all issues with them, and not with the developer ... And I, personally, I doubt something that gorgaz will against your plate. The only objection is that the selected stove may not be suitable for the type of gas in your house (I read somewhere that the stoves have adjustments for liquefied gas and mains and something needs to be regulated there).
In general, something like this ...
Pavlova
vatruska, Svetlan, it was like this: the representative of the developer called (the company is very famous, it is considered the leader in the construction of elite housing in our area, the experience is a lot of years), a girl, and set out a request-reminder that, following the terms of the contract, we, as participants in the share construction, must, within two weeks after the notification, purchase and deliver to the apartment a gas stove with 4 burners, a hose and a voltage stabilizer. On the word "four" my mind became clouded, I replied that under the terms of the shared construction contract, my husband was obliged to purchase a gas stove with gas control (quote: "a participant in shared construction at his expense acquires a gas stove with flexible connections to it and undertakes deliver it to the apartment within 10 days after notification "), no more conditions have been set for it under the contract, so we bought the Curting gas hob, the one we considered necessary to purchase. To which the girl replied that it was necessary - four burners, that the gasmen had already prepared a project for four-burner stoves, and we must try ... And I don’t want to try ... so I decided to find a way out ... I think that no one is in the right to violate my rights. Even though it sounds loud, the violation of both civil rights and consumer rights is obvious. I have such a day today that I just don't want to move. And the girl promised to call back and inform that the gasmen would decide on my stove ... I'm waiting ... until tomorrow ...
Although I saw a photo report about the preparation for the delivery of another house of our developer, that finally can be a cool house, the most expensive house in the city, so there the developer himself installed such ugly gas panels on stands such as stools ... that is, these stoves are then definitely owners will be removed ... so let them go ... to my husband's apartment, until the gas is connected ...
vatruska
Tatyana, if this is the case, go to the gas station yourself and pay for the installation (it is still paid) and that's it.You have fulfilled the terms of the contract, that's all! Further, you will excuse me, of course, but I’m a dumb fool, I don’t really understand what this is like a "project of gasmen for four-burner stoves" ... fire safety requirements (that is, at what distance from the wall the plate should be and the requirements for the wall - such as not to be drywall) and that's it !!! Well, troubles are still possible to adjust the nozzles for the type of gas, but the requirements for the number of burners ...
In general, call Gorgaz and find out the procedure for connecting like this, "we bought a gas stove, when can you come and connect it and will it cost you?" all!!! Moreover - if gas control - then you must have a socket there (it is electrical control).
Pavlova
vatruska, do you know what a project is? Oh, what do you mean, this is such a thing, which is just very important, and what gas workers do their best, they try, and that thing is simply immeasurable, strictly in accordance with the forces and knowledge invested in this difficult task! I lived in Kamensk-Uralsky, decided to install a gas meter, went to Gorgaz, I was sent to some office in the next entrance, there are still gorgeous ladies sitting there! I say: "I need a counter here." To which I get the answer: "Oh, no problem! First we will draw up a project, then people will come to you, they will do everything and you will have a meter! And our project costs only seven thousand! Well, the installation is a little more ..." In general, they counted so many to me that I didn't need this meter right away ... This is such a thing - this project ... not of our amateurish mind, this is a business ... Well this is the great science, after all, household gas is a dangerous thing!
And I'll go to the gasmen ... I'll take the panel and the butt to the apartment, and go ... to reconnaissance in force ...
Natalishka
Tatyana, or maybe not wring your nerves, but go to where you bought the stove. And ask to change it to a 4-burner. After all, it will be cheaper, and you will be calmer
Pavlova
Natalishka, no, they won't change (they bought it at Enter, in November, two months have already passed) ... they won't take it ...
No, no, I’m not shaking my nerves now, I’m already calmed down ... yesterday it was beating, but today I’m already calmed down ...
patch
Good time, days, members of the forum !!!
I am facing the choice of a gas stove !!! help me, the main emphasis on a good oven.
Thank you in advance!!!
Katrin
Girls, tell me, how convenient are telescopic guides in the oven?
They are not included with my new oven, they must be purchased separately. The guides are expensive, so I'm thinking about buying them or using baking sheets the old way.
Creamy
Be sure to buy if possible. You will praise yourself every time you bake.
Katrin
Creamy, Thank you. But don't tell me, these guides are handy if you need to remove the baking sheet. For example, when baking Napoleon. It seemed to me that the guides are removed with the baking sheet.
Pavlova
Quote: T.A.

how competent is Gorgaz in terms of limiting the rights of apartment owners in choosing the number of burners to be installed?
It's finished! Gas was connected yesterday. An epic for 7 hours of clean time, only stoves were connected, gas boilers (heating and hot water) were connected only from the ninth to the fourth floor, today the process will continue (husband's apartment is on the third). Result: plugged in, didn't go anywhere! Thanks for the support! An illustration to all this insanity sounded the words of the "gas" boy when they came to deal with the boiler (that is, when all the procedures for starting the gas had already been completed): "Well, now you can take the gas panel home!" That is, now I have to disconnect the stove, put the plug and go home ... One peasant from our floor turned out to be smarter, he immediately stated that he did not need to connect the stove, and let them do what they wanted ... not supposed to go anywhere ...
Awesome!
vatruska
HURRAH!!! CONGRATULATIONS! SO THEM !!!!!!!!!
Alex100
Good evening everyone!
Electrolux gas stoves are interested in information, mainly in terms of the oven

Thank you in advance
Alex100
And what about this model GORENJE GI 52320 AW?

V-tina
I was talking the other day with a repairman about buying household appliances. Recommended - AEG, Electrolux, Zanussi
Aunt Besya
And I am now keenly interested in the gas stove issue! I don’t understand them at all, I live with an electric stove all my life! Once upon a time, they lived with gas, the stove was three-burner, I don't even remember the name
And now we, the mother-in-law in the DR, decided to buy a new stove, she has gas and she loves baking. That is, you need a good oven! A stove 50 cm wide, freestanding, please advise, I still have three or four weeks of time.We have no choice either - Hans and Hephaestus, so I will most likely buy in an online store with delivery.
Piano
On a 50 cm stove, two large pots will not stand side by side / for example during the harvesting period /, take this into account as a disadvantage.
Alex100
We also have Hephaestus and other similar ones all around ... Hephaestus (and at work too) advises me all, I looked at several plates ... but something doesn't lie

On the Gorene brand plates, the reviews are contradictory

in general, we need advice from real users) who will help how
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Duc they are not 50x50 but 50x58.5 or 60 at a height of 85
so everything is okay.

We have Darina of this size
Alex100
shade, ZANUSSI 50 * 50
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
I forgot to mention that I posted about Hefest
and zanusi the same 50 to 60 is
Omka
Quote: Alex100



On the Gorene brand plates, the reviews are contradictory

in general, we need advice from real users) who will help how

I already have a second Gorenie stove. The first one worked for almost 10 years without any complaints. In December, they managed to change (the oven died). Bought exactly the same as it was, only smarter timer.
So I recommend Gorenje to everyone and always.
My stove is narrow, 50 cm K55320
Who cares about the oven, I definitely advise you to take a combination of gas plus an electric oven
Aunt Besya
Most likely, the gas oven will not work for us Today I sent an electrician to my mother-in-law, he then called back and said that the aluminum wiring in the house is unimportant, so he would not risk it
Omka
Aunt Besya,
And if a separate cable for the stove is drawn from the shield, it will not work?
Aunt Besya
So he said that in the very entrance of the seams He said tomorrow he will talk to the company that issues technical specifications, if they say, like nothing will happen, he will do it, so tomorrow it will be clear what I will be looking for: either a combi or just gas
Loksa
Aunt Besya, Recently we changed the gas stove with a gas oven Hephaestus for the same Zanussi. Hephaestus was better. This is completely cardboard and the burner is big, I don't know how it should be or not? But he had to take Hephaestus. As you look, pay attention to the thickness of the metal! In the oven, where the lid is removed. For myself, I would take a hob for three burners and a built-in oven! very small selection of plates 50-50
Alex100
Today I was in Eldorado, in terms of the oven they said that Gorene is better.
They bake great.

Probably all the same I will take a stove of this brand.

About Hephaestus they said, well, the Sovdepov's stove. Simple, reliable, does not pretend to be modern laurels
Loksa
Alex100, have you found a 50 * 50 burner? I wrote to Elena about choosing a stove with a small size, non-standard.
Chamomile
I have Mora. The simplest one, without ignition, etc. I do not know if they are on sale now. It seems Czech. I bought it 7 years ago. 50 cm width. Then they praised her to me, they said that the company specializes in the manufacture of gas stoves. It's convenient for me, there is enough space. The oven dries out, you must definitely put water. And there are no numbers on the thermometer, but only pictures by which you can watch the temperature in the instructions. Not very comfortable. But I adapted. Everything in it baked and all sorts of chickens, pots, etc. In general, I'm happy now, but now I don't bake. I like the airfryer more. It's more convenient for me. Of the shortcomings - one baking sheet, put on the wire rack, that is, it is smaller in size than the plate itself, and made of some kind of light metal similar to aluminum - it is unrealistic to wash it. Use only with baking paper or mat.
Alex100
Loksa.Burning mainly 50 * 60 depth
Loksa
Chamomile1, So I would take "MORA"
Piano
Quote: Chamomile1

I have Mora. The simplest one, without ignition, etc. I do not know if they are on sale now. It seems Czech. I bought it 7 years ago. 50 cm width. Then they praised her to me, they said that the company specializes in the manufacture of gas stoves. It's convenient for me, there is enough space. The oven dries out, you must definitely put water. And there are no numbers on the thermometer, but only pictures by which you can watch the temperature in the instructions. Not very comfortable. But I adapted. Everything in it baked and all sorts of chickens, pots, etc. In general, I'm happy now, but now I don't bake. I like the airfryer more. It's more convenient for me. Of the shortcomings - one baking sheet, put on the wire rack, that is, it is smaller in size than the plate itself, and made of some kind of light metal similar to aluminum - it is unrealistic to wash it. Use only with baking paper or mat.

Are you talking about a stove with a gas oven? We now have a lot of used Mora stoves, they are brought from Europe, prices are reasonable, plus neat Germans cook almost nothing in ovens - clean, unused ovens. I also look at Mora.
vatruska
Girls, just don't forget about the gas control ... I already had a pre-infarction state 2 times here ... I left for work, a visiting nurse stayed in the house, so after that she would find a burner turned on twice without fire, they would have burned out in Fig. ..
Alex100
Chamomile1, thanks for the valuable information. For almost a week I have been surfing the Internet, going shopping in search of a stove, but I have not heard of such a brand)

And the plates are really good. Production Czech Republic. Concern burning took them under its roof

There are gas and electric ovens. Excellent thermal insulation of ovens.
Aunt Besya
Well, in general, I can look after the combined stove, the electrician gave the go-ahead!
Chamomile
Quote: Piano
Are you talking about a stove with a gas oven?
Yes, I'm talking about a freestanding gas oven. At one time, when I moved, I was not financially able to make a built-in kitchen. Therefore, I bought an ordinary stove. I was looking for a reliable option, but cheaper. Therefore, I have a simple one, without ignitions, grills, etc. But there were options and abruptly from the same brand. It was difficult for me in terms of money and thought that I could do without excesses. It has gas control. It's sooooo hard to turn on the oven. It is necessary to hold the oven handle for at least 20-30 seconds. pressed. If you let go a little earlier, it immediately goes out. Considering that there is no electric ignition, you have to do some extra body movements and show some dexterity. That is, first light a match, then bring the match to the ignition hole in the oven, then turn the knob of the stove and hold it, light the oven. Then continue to hold the handle, extinguish the match, make sure not to burn yourself. And if you release the handle a little earlier, then the oven goes out, the gas control is triggered and you have to start all over again. But, in principle, everything is not so critical and you can adapt. I cooked a lot in the oven before multi and all other techniques. If the money allows, then it is better to take it with electric ignition.
alfa20
I bought pure gas Mora a couple of years ago. The set includes 1 aluminum baking tray and 2 enameled ones (of which one is deep), there is an electric ignition. In principle, everything suits me. I use the oven for bread almost every day and very often I cook something in it for the second. Compared to the previous stoves - Hephaestus (with an always inoperative button in the oven), Nord (reddened after the first baking) - heaven and earth. I have a dark chocolate version, it looks very good. True, any speck of dust can be seen on this "chocolate".
oxxana
I also have a gas MORA for more than 10 years, with an electric ignition and an upper grill, 2 aluminum baking trays and one deep enamelled one with a grate, plus left 2 enamelled ones from the old stove - they fit perfectly into the grooves. The quality of the stove is excellent: the ignition still works great, the enamel is like new - not a scratch, the oven bakes beautifully, I really like the stove.
Creamy
My kuma Mora has been purely gas for 12 years.It bakes perfectly. I have 10 years old Mora combined, it also bakes perfectly.
Piano
Chamomile1, alfa20, oxxana, could you show a photo (or maybe a model) of your Mora?
Chamomile
Piano, I have a Mora 1410 model.
Piano
Chamomile1, she?

🔗
oxxana
I have a model 1225
Piano
Chamomile1, oxxana, Thank you.
alfa20
I have MGN 52103 F
Alex100
Now I'm looking at this Mora PS 213 MBR, and the price seems to be acceptable
But everywhere mostly on order.
alfa20
I took mine through the online store.
Chamomile
Piano, mine has a different grill, but I like this one more, I have a solid one, but in the photo it consists of two parts. I can’t wash mine in the dishwasher, it doesn’t fit, if only to remove the upper basket. I have a thermometer in my oven, and one baking sheet. And so it is very similar.

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