Choosing a gas stove

The hairpin is gas. Summer resident, thank you. So I set the temperature roughly correctly, but it doesn't seem to help my "Boutney"
And here's the most interesting thing - I can't find instructions for this miracle stove!

Hello everyone! Please advise a good gas stove with a good gas oven, if such exist in nature.

[timrita]

timrita Gas ovens are not very good. IMHO.

[timrita]

timrita Gas ovens are not very good. IMHO.

Well, why is it. I have a very successful gas stove with a gas oven. Maybe I was lucky, but I walked for a very long time, felt different plates. For the oven, it is important that the burner is around the perimeter (or in a circle), then baking proceeds correctly and evenly. I found only 2 companies with such an arrangement of the burner (I did not consider ours). These are Gorenje and Kaiser. Gorenyi did not like the fact that glass wool is poured into the lower tiny compartment for pans, which is wrapped around the oven, and in the Kaiser, a large compartment is separated by a sheet of iron from the oven. Minus on the Kaiser - the risks on the handles are erased from time to time. burners.

[Lenusya!]

I have Hephaestus now. On the native sheet, the top is always white. I got the impression that not enough heat is getting through the holes in the baking sheet. I bought a smaller Teflon sheet, put it on the grate. It got better. Plus, for some reason, if the baking temperature is 180 g according to the recipe, then the thermometer from the oven should show 220-230 g.
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Lenusya!
I have the same stove and the same problems
Everything takes much longer to bake than indicated in the recipes. Moreover, dried baked goods sometimes turn out ...
So I also began to think about replacing the gas stove.

Hello girls! My husband bought me a gas stove "Kaiser" with a gas oven, on top of a glass panel, itself dark brown, here I am sitting in quiet shock, I am going to master with spirit .... There are two non-stick baking sheets in the oven - one flat, the other with sides, and one glass (who knows what it is for?). There is also a grill, blower, self-cleaning oven, timer, gas control, auto ignition ...
Before that there was "Hephaestus" for 11 years. I used the grill once - the chicken was burnt on top, but inside it remained raw. And so the oven baked very well, there were no complaints. From bad - almost immediately the gas control button of the oven broke down and all the years I baked, propping it up with a spatula, a couple of years later the auto-ignition of the burners crumbled to dust. I endured .... But when recently, in the process of baking cookies, the inner glass of the oven exploded into small rattles (I had to throw everything out), my "patience snatched away." The new husband chose himself, he always chooses household appliances well. And now I'm so scared !!!! Who knows what about the "Kaiser?" And what is baked in a glass baking sheet?

Though not a girl. but I will answer. We bake everything in a glass oven. It is very convenient to keep track of the bottom of the pie. Do not rub the knobs of gas burners too much. the inscriptions are washed off. We really like the stove. Good luck!

Zigor, thanks for the recommendations !!! especially about the pens !!! If they wear off, it will be difficult to regulate the temperature, it will be necessary to approach them with curtsey .... And the whole stove is, how to say, curtsy. I didn’t stand on ceremony with my old one, and this one must be polished, but she, of course, is a beauty. And how pizza looks through the glass when illuminated !!!! I already took a picture !!! And I'll try the pies in glass !!! Probably, all sorts of vegetable casseroles with cheese will look beautiful !!!

Today I cooked a grilled chicken on a rotating spit on my Kaiser.It turned out - super !!! And baked inside, and outside-beauty !!! I also really liked to bake halves of potatoes under the grill. It turns out even faster than in the combined mode in the microwave. Grilling in the Kaiser is a beast! And I checked out the non-stick baking sheets - nothing needs to be soaked and scrubbed to the point of stupidity - a little bit of liquid on a sponge - and everything was laundered! No, it was not for nothing that my husband threw out the money - compared to the old one - heaven and earth.

Girls and boys.
Advise is it possible to buy a gas stove without an oven? And which one is better? I would like to burn, but are there such in nature?
What is better to buy an electric oven?

I read local reviews yesterday and met a review with an explosion of a gas board, a glass board .. it worked for people for six months. Miraculously, everyone is alive and well, it exploded when there was no one in the kitchen. After viewing the photo, now I want only stainless steel

[Gypsy]

Gypsy unfortunately this is not an isolated case. This can only happen with tempered glass, not with glass ceramics.

a search in Israel gave me only one plate with glass-ceramics, here is such a combination


and it is 3-4 times more expensive, for example, these made of glass


and from stainless steel it is even cheaper, and it seems to me that the spilled will not fill the knobs

Girls, thank you very much, we will measure the place to fit.
I understand that it is still better to take stainless steel than glass?

And who knows which is better .. until you try both .. I also read that any specks of dust on the black glass are striking, is that so ?, people wrote that now they would not buy black glass.

I have a built-in gas hob Ariston .. so-called. "Gas on glass" ... I have been using it for more than 6 years ... gray (when I took "wet asphalt" it was called) ... no dust particles are visible .. but it is imperative to wash and then wipe ... the last month I clean with a steam generator ... what haven't you thought of before ...? I did not notice any special flaws ... there are still no scratches ... one screw in the fastening of one burner has rusted ... if you do not remove the divider you cannot see ...

And who knows which is better .. until you try both .. I also read that any specks of dust on the black glass are striking, is that so ?, people wrote that now they would not buy black glass.

Absolutely correct - the sea of ​​dust particles. When choosing a surface, good manufacturers have little choice. Mostly all black. I'm thinking, maybe this is on purpose? Dust is an abrasive that scratches glass. When you see him, then before you put the pan, you will see the dust and wipe it off. And if you can't see her? ...

I understand that it is still better to take stainless steel than glass?

See what an interesting stainless steel TEKA ES 60.2 4G AI AL IX


but an analogue of our Israeli one, you can see it from one plant in China, but I like it, wow, from the fact that the best price / quality is presented on our market

Zigmund & Shtain GN 08.61 S

Maybe the stainless steel that is sold in civilized countries is more unpretentious in operation than our local one? Read the reviews - everyone spits, the surface loses its appearance immediately after installation. Fingerprints can only be erased with an expensive special tool. Zanussi "gas on glass" has been working for me for more than a year now. If you look closely, you can see the scratches, but you need to look closely! And if guests have to come, in five minutes the stove can be easily brought to a state of "like new" using any dishwashing detergent.

As always, a question from a lazy forum member. Need gas plate, with a width of 50 cm. The price is affordable, up to 1.5 thousand UAH. Maybe someone has some impressions? Please share

[Gypsy]

Recently I chose a gas surface (not yet purchased, but decided on a model). What can I say about yours, Gypsy, doubts.
Absolutely identical Bosch models PRP 626 B90 and PPP 626 M90, the only difference is that the first glass ceramics, and the second tempered glass. The first price is $ 200 more expensive.
It's good that the grilles are made of cast iron (the boeers are durable and do not lose their appearance, but you can wash them in the PMM). And it looks much cooler IMHO
For me personally, it is important that the gas burner just sticks out of the glass. Then it is much easier to wash - I removed the grates and washed the flat surface, there is nowhere for oily dirt to clog. At first I liked the surface of Ariston (very similar in design to the light shown above), BUT there is a "pancake" of metal around the burner. To wash it from fat is something (there is experience, my brother has this). Since there were no other light colors on the market, it was excluded from the list. And dust for gas is not at all as important as for electric, where there is close contact of the bottom of the saucepan with the surface.
Nerzh would not even take as a gift I have enough stainless steel strips on the oven And, again, how to scrub all these bends.
I have now electro, black, Zanussi. Mine before and after use, but after 5 years it is completely on the machine (a microfiber cloth to help me)
The gas station stopped at PRP 626 B90, but if it were still light, I would definitely take it.

I don’t know how much a wound gas stove you need, but from the usual ones I like my Mora 1225 Czech, they are enameled (white, dark brown). The enamel is very high quality. There are different models. We were visiting friends, they had such a stove, and they advised us to buy the same one. For the price - ok, quality too. When the master installed us, he told us that we would never see each other again, since these plates are very reliable. And he was right (mmm). In the internet there is information on them, there are different models, take a look. Bakes incredible, the grill at the top is super. My model is just the width you need, but it has been a long time since we bought it, at least 10 years, I think that they have a lot of new things. In mine there is neither convection nor self-cleaning function, but only the most necessary.

k.alena, it was interesting to look at your Bosch, but we probably don't have such, all stainless steel Bosches are like

I don't know .. I often find in the description of stoves and stoves like * stainless steel top, finger stains do not remain *

There is only a picture from the tyrnet (not bought yet)
but its price cannot be called budget either (about $ 600)

wow price too wow
but for some reason I like it with minimal pieces of iron, but for some reason they are found on glass surfaces, like this

here, by the way, as an example, an inexpensive stove ($ 248) is written anti-fingerprint stainless steel finish

Such cruciforms are also cast iron (Electrolux and seemingly Whirlpool). But on these, that in the picture under the cross-piece, the metal circles and after viewing them "live" did not like it.
And stainless steel ... it's not just the fingers (this is more relevant for the doors of refrigerators and my oven). The glass-ceramic surface is perfectly smooth, so it is much easier to clean it. And steel is not polished like that (it should be a mirror then), and if it is covered with something like "varnish", then something will be safely damaged over time and will begin to peel off (the enamel loses its appearance over time). I do not argue that you can take care of anything with anxiety, but when every day IMHO needs something that is easier to care for and pleases the eye. Although, if you like it, then you need to take it according to what I like, I can adjust almost any scientific basis
As for the price, it's Bosch. My husband has a weakness for Brands (although especially recently this is not always justified), but ... what can I argue if I also like

we have Bosch costs the same even cheaper than crystal, but it's all stainless steel. After watching the frames with the explosion, I became afraid of glass, I don’t know .. maybe we also have these glass ceramics, I don’t know .. but for sure they are very expensive ... but why buy it expensive, gas stoves are only different in design, and so essentially all the same .. the fire is on and that's it. These are the ovens, cunning inventions burned out there, but here it was not baked .. that's where to break your head and lay out more money

although, about more money, all this may not be justified ..I have met so many bad reviews on expensive ovens, people were horrified there .. and you often see very good reviews for inexpensive ones .. so you think where is the logic of prices

These are the ovens, cunning inventions burned out there, but here it was not baked .. that's where to break your head and lay out more money

The design and shape of the burner in the oven must be looked at. The baking quality depends on its configuration.

[artisan]

I also decided to share my impressions, since I myself only recently suffered from the agony of choosing a gas surface. We needed a gas one, with cast-iron grates, well, and not expensive.
1. Bosch - the grates were not arranged - I brew coffee in a Turk and it would just stand on the burner.

2. I liked Electrolux and arranged the grilles, but I read the reviews that the switches are heating up. And I looked closely at the nearby burners and realized that the pans would hang almost over the switches.

3.With cross-shaped grates, or as the Gypsy woman says with minimal pieces of iron, they also disappeared, because on these grates you cannot move a pan from one burner to another with one hand. This is important for me, because I have two little monsters, which sometimes I have to hold with one hand and manipulate the pots with the other.

4. I chose that the switches were to the right, since there will be a refrigerator to the right of the stove, and the distance between them is only 15 cm, therefore, due to the switches on the right, this distance increases.

As a result, I chose Ardo
Cast iron grates, gas control, ignition.
As for the fingers, I think that this is not relevant for surfaces. Here I chose an oven with a special coating.
And more about the gas oven. artisan, can you still see the separate version of the gas surface + electric oven. A master friend of mine said gas ovens don't bake very well. And if this happens, then nothing can be done about it.
Well, that's it. Maybe someone will come in handy.

As a result, I chose Ardo

looked closely at the pieces of iron, and they are separate, as many as 4 pieces, cool! what I look at these pieces of iron .. there is no dishwasher, because thoughts always work in the direction what would wash less and if there is a dishwasher, then apparently the thoughts should be different

[k.alena]

But I like this one, but I haven't seen it live.


k.alena does she have pancakes too difficult to wash? Price RUB 7,000 In general, criticize if you have something.

Exactly the same with my brother only with beige glass. There "pancakes" also have all sorts of grooves ... in general, there is where caked fat to collect. Well, the grilles themselves are enameled steel. Although outwardly I like this line (also the oven in color)

looked closely at the pieces of iron, and they are separate, as many as 4 pieces, cool! what I look at these pieces of iron .. there is no dishwasher, because thoughts always work in the direction what would wash less and if there is a dishwasher, then apparently the thoughts should be different

It seems to me that even if there is no dishwasher, separate grates are still convenient. Personally, it always annoyed me that I had to empty the entire stove to wipe around one burner. And here he removed the grate and wiped it off.

[artisan]

And more about the gas oven. artisan, can you still see the separate version of the gas surface + electric oven. A master friend of mine said that gas ovens don't bake very well. And if this happens, then nothing can be done about it.
Well, that's it. Maybe someone will come in handy.

MORs are famous for their excellent baking, including bread. A friend who recommended it to me has girlfriends who make cakes to order, bake professionally - they will not advise in vain. And what kind of gas grill is at the top For example, lamb, mititei can be cooked in such a way that you lick your fingers - juicy, fragrant. Do not compare with simply baked in the same oven. Once my daughter brought a couple of mititeev to work at lunchtime, so everyone who came into the office said that it smelled like gratari dishes.The only thing that is bad - you can't cook chicken on a bottle - it won't rise in height, because the grill burner interferes with the top. And I put a large cast-iron pot in a thick frying pan right on the "floor" of the oven, without a grate.

I am against electric ovens for two reasons: 1) our electricity is very expensive and 2) the light is sometimes turned off (this happens often with the mother-in-law). An additional gas oven helps out. But these are pies, bread. And if a biscuit, choux pastry ??? So much food and labor down the drain

I read reviews on MORA gas stoves in the internet. Unfortunately, there were more negative ones. Although on the site of this company, everything is very well and temptingly written and presented. Again the game of the lottery: lucky or unlucky, as with many household appliances?

According to the first link, my 1225 model is not there at all, we are talking about some kind of tin - there is excellent quality enamel, even my husband could not ditch it; and on the second link - did not find reviews. I have no mirrored door, brown, made according to the "Russian stove" technology, we did not want a spit, only a gas grill on top. The temperature is from 155 to 280 degrees, but the meringue bakes well, I sterilize it in it too. Here to dry - did not dry anything.

I was looking for reviews myself yesterday, I found that someone complained about another model that the doors are inconveniently removed due to the springs. I have no springs, but strong hooks. It is removed according to the attached instructions for one or two and just as instantly put back. I removed the door only a couple of times, the first time when my daughter caramelized the whole oven, and then I tried not to scratch it anymore.

And I also read that the Gorene concern allegedly bought Mora. But my neighbor has 5 years old Gorenie (I don't know exactly which model, but with a spit). The masters walk all the time, but the oven works only at the maximum and minimum, and at first it did not work at all, and the grill too. They use only the top panel, they all fry.

Of course, I would not be surprised if the quality is now worse - now every year everything becomes trashy and trashy, even what used to be of excellent quality.

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka ,
thanks for the detailed report on the use of the stove. But your stove model is not among those sold with us. All the numbers of the models are completely different, although the furnaces differ little. I will look for more positive reviews and, maybe, I'll be ripe for buying it

But I like this one, but I haven't seen it live.

I want to warn you. In online stores for many models (and this one too) they write that glass ceramics. I went to the officer. site, and there is glass.

I found the same plate with us, written on tempered mirror glass

how then to distinguish just glass from glass ceramics I don’t know .. figs with it, we have a huge selection of stainless steel, and twice cheaper

From friends, the stainless steel hob very quickly lost its presentation, although they bought only special care and cleaning products, and the comrades themselves are neat.

We "got" with the built-in gas oven Electrolux EOG 23400 K and as it turned out, we are not alone. Electrolux has a factory defect, and it is not treated in the service.
Namely, she has either a temperature sensor or something else in her brain, but in the process of work she sometimes cannot turn on the gas, the "blocking" (gas) light comes on. This does not always happen, sometimes it works for three hours and everything is in order, and sometimes you already want to kick it.
It's a shame that this is one of the most expensive gas ovens.

what does it mean lost its presentation? what has changed in her?

Covered with irreplaceable stains. Particularly diligent people try to erase them with something radical and discover a mysterious white metal under the thinnest layer of "stainless steel".

Covered with irreplaceable stains. Particularly diligent people try to erase them with something radical and discover a mysterious white metal under the thinnest layer of "stainless steel".

yeah .. no, I haven’t read about this yet .. in the sense of the reviews.There are only complaints of the type, the burners do not burn well, then there is a blue or red flame, the flame does not come out evenly and everything like that, but this does not depend on glass or stainless steel, but no one has ever complained about the quality of the stainless steel itself.

[Gypsy]

Gypsy, I don't know why, but after 6 months of operation, the hob looks like it is already 10 years old. Everything is covered with some kind of stains that cannot be removed. Maybe, of course, depends on the manufacturer ...

kolynusha , and they fix them indefinitely in services. At least we are not so offended, we ordered through the online store for 21,000 rubles, but in Mir and Mvideo people bought these ovens for 30,000 rubles.

Who has a domino gas surface, that is, two burners? Conveniently? Do the pans slip off? I’m counting centimeters in the kitchen, and I think I can increase the work surface this way ..

I saw a photo somewhere - such a green kitchen (I also think about furniture), but you can repeat it
There are questions: do the pots move out? For a year and a half I have had a Gorenie stove of 50 cm, and before that I had a Soviet 60 cm, so in Gorenka the steel gratings are slippery. Now I only want cast iron, but here's a full-size one or a domino? Domino (30 cm) is of course a plus - additional space for a work surface. Of the devices for cooking, I only have a multicooker, I cook mainly in it. But I often use the stove, heat something small, boil eggs, fry an omelet .. well, quick .. Will two burners be enough? I rarely turn on more than two at the same time, but suddenly there will be a feeling that something is missing?

We destroyed the pantry and enlarged the kitchen .. I think all the same to take 4 comforts .. are there combined gas + induction cookers?

I asked managers on this issue. They answered: - no, there is no combined gas. Induction only + electric hotplates.

And I bought Indesit, 60 cm wide. For 2400 gr. Disappointed. The oven bakes terribly poorly, all products come out white or barely browned. The grate is uncomfortable, the kettle and larger pots are still stable, and with a slightly smaller diameter they stagger and slide off.

BlackHairedGirl, can you show a photo of the gas surface?

["Kaiser HGE60508"]

We bought in May "Kaiser HGE60508" - gas top, electric oven - to say that we are happy, this is to say nothing! I am happy as a child, every time I bake something in it! I highly recommend it! Here is our beautiful mistress!