Camembert
cheflera, We are waiting for the report "About Your Bread"
And Kenwood had a warranty ... or the stove died after the end of the Warranty Repair.
I know one thing The month is faithful and true ... Well, a little more ... not the point ...
Yes, it is hard for her with a rough dough ... sometimes she hung up ... But the SEAL, as it should!

cheflera
The bread is great! The next one was a cupcake according to the recipe taken at the beginning of this topic from Snezhaa. And there was a guarantee for kenwut. Now the guarantee is given at the most for 6 months.
sazalexter
Quote: sheflera
Now the guarantee is given at the most for 6 months.
Minimum 1 year.
cheflera
But no, we have a maximum six months in the store. But at the sale yesterday they were given 14 days. By the way, the cake came out amazingly tasty. Only he needs a little rest. Then even tastier.
sazalexter
chefleraMeanwhile, the Law "On Protection of Consumer Rights" establishes that the consumer has the right to present claims to the seller related to the identification of defects in the product, in the event that these defects are found during the warranty periods established by the manufacturer (paragraph 1 of Article 19 of the Law "On consumer protection "). Therefore, you should focus on the manufacturer's warranty period. The seller tries in every possible way to underestimate it, and thereby save himself from the "hassle of service."

If the warranty period for the goods is established by the manufacturer, then in the contract of sale, taking into account paragraph 7 of Article 5 of the Law "On Protection of Consumer Rights", the seller has the right to establish a warranty period for the goods only longer than that established by the manufacturer of the goods.
Situations are possible when the manufacturer does not indicate the warranty period. In this case, a warranty period of any length may be specified in the purchase contract. However, if the seller establishes a warranty period of less than six months (two years for real estate), taking into account the rule established by paragraph 5 of Article 477 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, the seller will be liable if the defects of the goods are discovered by the buyer after the expiration of the warranty period, but within six months (two years - for real estate) from the date of transfer of the goods to the buyer and, if the buyer proves that these defects arose before the transfer of the goods to the buyer or for reasons that arose up to that moment.
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The warranty period is indicated in the warranty card.
The store has a very indirect relationship to the warranty period. You can always contact the service directly.
Yes, for some equipment, Kenwood gives a 5-year warranty 🔗
cheflera
Alexander yes it is all so only here to argue for a long time with sellers. Yes, and little that depends on sellers, managers and directors decide everything. We had a case here. In an official store, people buy a shower stall (mind you, not cheap) And the seller says that there is no guarantee for it at all, because they do not have an installation wizard. And if the buyer installs himself, then there is no guarantee at all. This is a circus. I don't know how this case ended, I was just an accidental eyewitness (I bought goods in this store) And all this happened before my eyes.
sazalexter
cheflera, No need to argue with the sellers, just contact the official service with a guarantee and a receipt, if not, then to the supplier. You can write a letter to the manufacturer's technical support, it often helps. Along the way, you can contact Rospotrebnadzor, they will tell you how to proceed. By the way, this also has a sobering effect on sellers, they immediately remember the laws
cheflera
Thank you Alexander I will take note of all this. By the way, I looked in the warranty card, the manufacturer gives a 12 month warranty.
Camembert
cheflera, ... I quote you "I was given 14 days in general"
This is for an exchange of goods, or a refund ... Some stores increase this period. But this is not a guarantee ...
I know I came across a defective washing machine about two months ago ...
If there is interest, I can describe ... but not in this topic
cheflera
When I asked how much the guarantee for this product. I got a reply in 14 days. I was satisfied with the price, I did not argue. Although the store is not far away and this issue can be raised and clarified.
Koteika
Anyone got gluten-free bread? I tried to bake according to the recipe from the instructions - it turned out a baked tasteless crumb
Bold macho
Quote: Koteika
Anyone got gluten-free bread? I tried to bake according to the recipe from the instructions - it turned out a baked tasteless crumb
The rice flour recipe that comes with the bread maker did not work out and I probably have a wrong recipe.
nikitos
Quote: BoldMacho

The rice flour recipe that comes with the bread maker did not work out and I probably have a wrong recipe.
I took the recipe on the forum, very impressed.
nikitos
Rye bread "Without nothing" (oven, bread maker, slow cooker)

I don’t know anything about baking in Maxwell, try it. Recipes are white. bread and kulich, chocolate lick from Panasonic.
nikitos
Ingredients yeast 2 tsp wheat flour 600 g sugar 5 tbsp. l. salt 3.5 tsp sunflower oil 4 tbsp. l. water360 ml
White bread for 900gr program fr. 3.50
bread is always super

Camembert
nikitos, Greetings!
Is there a photo ... We are all very interested to see your masterpieces, do not hesitate to post it !!!

Yes, mine seems to have become boring, 4 days "Borodino" in the bread bin is cut a piece a day ...
White bake is different, from the forum ... only black BUT apparently have to change the recipe this week !!!
I want to try Darnitsky ...
Well Viki / Sourdough Guru / ...
hold on If it doesn't work out I'll torture you with questions !!!
Softcrimea
Goodnight! After reading the forum and I decided to order 3751. I am very interested in the function of yogurt (cottage cheese). Dear owners - share your experience of using this function. Which milk do you use, which starter cultures? Doesn't overheat the yogurt? Otherwise, it might be worth canceling the order ...
Camembert
Denis has never personally used this program. Only I bake bread every four days, first white, by evening black. Dough for dumplings, dumplings, pies ...
Someone cooked condensed milk in the oven, met somewhere here. But IMHO I shouldn't think to keep it with liquid for a long time, it is not known how the oil seal will withstand?
Softcrimea
It is clear, just the choice fell on this bread maker because of the price / quality and the yogurt program. And then the small container in the yogurt maker is no longer satisfied. We grow up. I wonder who has ever visited yogurt in it? Please respond! Don't hide extremely important secret information!
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea

It is clear, just the choice fell on this bread maker because of the price / quality and the yogurt program. And then the small container in the yogurt maker no longer suits. We grow up. I wonder who has ever visited yogurt in it? Please respond! Don't hide extremely important secret information!
So the essence is the same as in the yogurt maker, in the prescription book it seems there is a recipe, if you go to make with the leaven, buy whatever you like at the pharmacy. I usually use Evitalia. Something like this.
Softcrimea
In the book with recipes it is clear, but how it actually turns out (do not believe everything written by the Chinese ???). From mine 3!!! only the most expensive and the cheapest one does not overheat yogurt makers. Although they generally perform only one function ... but not everything as it turned out. The temperature must be kept stable. That is why I am interested in this particular bread maker from those who have already made yogurt. How much is the temperature of the mixture with the yoghurt program at 900g. and at 750g? There are different cooking times of 6 and 8 hours. (There is no temperature data in the instructions at all) Thanks in advance!
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea

In the book with recipes it is clear, but how it actually turns out (do not believe everything written by the Chinese ???). From mine 3!!! only the most expensive and the cheapest one does not overheat yogurt makers. Although they generally perform only one function ... but not everything as it turned out.The temperature must be kept stable. That is why I am interested in this particular bread maker from those who have already made yogurt. How much is the temperature of the mixture with the yoghurt program at 900g. and at 750g? There are different cooking times of 6 and 8 hours. (There is no temperature data in the instructions at all) Thanks in advance!
The temperature of the mixture can fluctuate from various factors, but purely logically I assume that it is about the same as with the approach of the test. A thermocouple is needed for a detailed temperature measurement, a Chinese thermometer will also lie)))
In general, it strongly depends on the leaven. I always get yoghurt on evitalia. Even without a yogurt maker, but on a battery.
Softcrimea
That is the question. At temperatures below 10 degrees C and above 35 the dough is not suitable. And for yogurt this is not enough, you need 39-42! So I want to ask those who use this bread maker whether the yogurt mode is working correctly or not.
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea
So I want to ask those who use this bread maker whether the yogurt mode is working correctly or not.
I don’t quite understand you have already purchased a stove or not? Is cooking yoghurt in the oven a decisive factor for you? In fact, this is just marketing, in a bucket of a bread machine, as it was said earlier, it is not a pity to keep liquids, an oil seal for a long time ...
And if you have already purchased the stove, then try to conduct an experiment, sourdough, milk, a thermometer, at the same time you will publish your research on the forum
Softcrimea
I ordered an oven. There was a delay in delivery, the sellers of the online store offered to cancel the order or wait. I'm trying to figure out for myself whether it's worth the wait or not. Price without delivery came out 1990 rubles.
sazalexter
Softcrimea, Read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=59444.240 CP is poorly suited for yoghurt, yeast and yoghurt culture are poorly compatible. And the container must be clean.
Softcrimea
Pour boiling water over after baking? Although kefir contains yeast according to the new GOST. (or vice versa in the old way ...)
MaryashaRostovskaya
Hello, tell me please, I changed the flour, maybe because of this - the bread does not rise well and the top bursts. Before that, everything was fine. I don't understand what's the matter. the truth is, it seems to me that the bun has become softer for the same amount of flour and water
Nica
Hello, here I ordered my first bread maker, I'm waiting for delivery.
Tell me, please, do I understand correctly: for baking bread, all products are pawned, and our participation is not required, but for a cake you need to pledge ready-made dough (or beaten eggs with sugar), that is, you cannot throw the ingredients and "walk"?
Bold macho
Quote: Nica

Hello, here I ordered my first bread maker, I'm waiting for delivery.
Tell me, please, do I understand correctly: for baking bread, all products are pawned, and our participation is not required, but for a cake you need to pledge ready-made dough (or beaten eggs with sugar), that is, you cannot throw the ingredients and "walk"?

Well, in general, yes, the main thing is to follow the order in which the products are booked as in the instructions. And the cake, I somehow decided without whipping, but it seemed to me it turned out less airy.
nata86
Quote: Softcrimea
So I want to ask those who use this bread maker whether the yogurt mode is working correctly or not.
I make yogurt in this HP - it turns out great! I can't say for sure what the temperature is there, but I didn't get such yogurt before. The multicooker has a special mode - yogurt, but the multicooker itself gave some kind of additional flavor to the yogurt ... I even bought a separate bowl to cook only yogurt and pastries in it, but the gum from the lid still gave a specific flavor. And HP is excellent))) Plus, another cant of my multi - the heating does not turn off before starting. A couple of times I slipped the shutdown time - in the end I got curd instead of yogurt)))

In general, I am very pleased with this HP, I got it for some super promotion for 1000r. I didn't plan to buy a bread maker at all, didn't see the need, but it turned out to be a very necessary thing!

I really like to make cottage cheese casserole in it.
From me - 3 minutes for a bookmark of products and 20 for a tea party)))

0.5-0.7 kg of cottage cheese
3 eggs
4 tablespoons of sugar
4 tablespoons of semolina
20gr softened butter (less)
1 teaspoon baking powder

Everything in HB, pierce the yolk in the eggs, cupcake program.
nata86
Only I've lost the booklet from her. Please post a photo of the recipe pages!
Bold macho
Quote: nata86

Only I've lost the booklet from her. Please post a photo of the recipe pages!
There is such a thing as a search engine, so if you open Yandex and enter a bread machine model, there are no problems with downloading the instructions, you just need to make an effort.
Softcrimea
Quote: nata86
I make yogurt in this HP - it turns out great!
Thank you very much for the information. I will try as soon as HP comes. HP got stuck on a ferry due to a storm. Let's wait and cook!
Softcrimea
Quote: nata86
Only I've lost the booklet from her. Please post a photo of the recipe pages!
Operating instructions, there are recipes. True, they are sooooo few.
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PS On the official website, the recommended price is 3090 rubles !!!!
sazalexter
nata86
Bold macho, I know about the existence of Yandex, he brought me to this forum.

Softcrimea, Thank you!
We are here for this and have gathered to share information.
Suddenly someone will come in handy too!
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Softcrimea
Well, I can’t wait for HP !!!!! Storm be it wrong ...
But the question? Who uses what yeast? If possible with the names.
Today I went shopping, there is only Sa_Moment and just yeast. Dry. In sachets ...
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea
Who uses what yeast?
I like this, I tried Turkish, I did not like it.
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
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RAE
Good day everyone!

I have also been using this HP since August.
It is not worth overpaying for saf yeast, it is no worse and half the price of Pakmaya and home cooking, the same is also the case in Ashanov's "every day", and almost 3 times cheaper than saf.
Apparently, they are simply poured into bags with different markings.

Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Bread Maker Maxwell MW-3751 - reviews and discussion
Softcrimea
By the way, Auchan is a way out, but how is their flour?
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea
By the way, Auchan is a way out, but how is their flour?
IMHO average in quality, but as they say in taste and color ...
RAE
Now in the top five and perekretsk flour 3 mill "melnikoff", a total of 33 rubles. for 2 kg, very good, just for 3 full bakes.
RAE
Softcrimea,
Regarding flour, see a real mill, try and decide which one to look for.
And companies can print different ones, on request, like with yeast.
Softcrimea
We now have so many new brands that it’s just gloom. The old ones no longer bring, but the new ones are dark. Try and try.
Bold macho
Quote: Softcrimea
We now have so many new brands that it’s just gloom. The old ones no longer bring, but the new ones are dark. Try and try.
As an option, you can find a local bakery there at the same time and you can find flour of coarse grinding ...
Newbie
Quote: RAE

Now in the top five and perekretsk flour 3 mill "melnikoff", a total of 33 rubles. for 2 kg, very good, just for 3 full bakes.
I took 1 s - I didn't like it. The gluten is short-growing, the bread is low, does not hold its shape at all.
RAE
Quote: Softcrimea
We now have so many new brands that it’s just gloom. The old ones no longer bring, but the new ones are dark. Try and try.
Therefore, I propose to pay attention to the plant, and not the trade mark.
Quote: Newbie
I took 1 s - I didn't like it. Gluten is short-growing, the bread is low, does not hold its shape at all.
I have the highest grade, it still rises, and it tastes great.
Rather, the problem is in the yeast, which yeast do you use?
Newbie
Quote: RAE
Rather, the problem is in the yeast, which yeast do you use?
yes no, not in yeast (believe my life experience)
RAE
Newbie,
Then it is generally strange, I have no problems, better than twice as expensive falconer, which many praise.

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