Mona1
Wow, great, we bought so many girls at once. Can't wait for the test results! And, probably, it is very audacious on my part to dream about cutting pictures? if possible, can click, Schaub wants to imagine what kind of STE for Greater and Carly.
kubanochka
I used a Trend grater.

Box 3.5

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Box 7.5

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Knifeless insert, thick side

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Knifeless insert, thin side

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Now additional inserts.

Box 1.6

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Box 4.5

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Box 10

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Now additional graters

Roco (for Korean carrots)

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Carly

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Waffle spiral

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Pizza grater

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Baby grater, coarse grater

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Baby grater, fine grater

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Well, this is a combichipser (with and without insert)

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The combislizer did not take pictures. At its greatest thickness, it is thinner than the thin side of the knifeless insert.

I don't like Box 1.6, Rocko is better. The waffle spiral is also not very good for me ... The insert flies out all the time. Now I want to buy exactly the Deco-Star.
Well, somewhere like that ...

And I liked 4.5
Caprice
Quote: kubanochka

I don't like Box 1.6, Rocko is better. The waffle spiral is also not very good for me ... The insert flies out all the time.
Yes, 1.6 and Roko - duplicate each other ...
But I want to buy a waffle-spiral ...
dopleta
Quote: Mona1

if possible, can click, Schaub wants to imagine what kind of STE for Greater and Carly.

Mona, below - pizza grater, top - curly.

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kubanochka
Quote: Caprice

Yes, 1.6 and Roko - duplicate each other ...
But I want to buy a waffle-spiral ...

On Roko it turns out prettier and more convenient.
It seems to me that Deco-Star will be more convenient, otherwise in the waffle insert, which changes the zig-zag to the grate, with a stronger pressure, pops up. Or maybe I haven't adjusted yet.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: kubanochka

On Roko it turns out prettier and more convenient.
It seems to me that Deco-Star will be more convenient, otherwise in the waffle insert, which changes the zig-zag to the grate, with a stronger pressure, pops up. Or maybe I haven't adjusted yet.
Isn't it also removable in Deco-Star? That is, it seems to me that it will also fall out when pressed hard. Although I have adjusted myself, I like the classics.
kubanochka
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Isn't it also removable in Deco-Star? That is, it seems to me that it will also fall out when pressed hard. Although I have adjusted myself, I like the classics.

Am I arguing ?! I also have a classic. But here in the photo, Deco looks somehow more reliable

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Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: kubanochka

Am I arguing ?! I also have a classic. But here in the photo, Deco looks somehow more reliable

Here I was dissuaded from Deco-Star. She has a slightly different inclination of the blade, they write it is not so convenient to cut, more effort must be made. On the Classics, they say everything is like clockwork.
kubanochka
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Here I was dissuaded from Deco-Star. She has a slightly different inclination of the blade, they write it is not so convenient to cut, more effort must be made. On the Classics, they say everything itself is like clockwork.

That's why I bought it. But now, for the purity of the experiment, so to speak, I also want Deco. But we do not have it in the store yet, and ordering one grater via the Internet is not an option. I'll buy it, and I'll live without it, I'll master the Classics.
kubanochka
dopleta!!!!!!!
I know you have all the graters. Tell her what her name is. On the Russian site of Berner it goes like Deco, and on the German Deco the one in the photo above

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Mona1
Quote: kubanochka

Oh, Helen, what pictures! I examined in detail 4 times, just some kind of orgasm. Hotsu, hotsu, hotsu. And just the cutting of the Trend that I am going to acquire. And the rest of the grater is great rubbing. Waffles are such paws.And 4.5 is also suitable, I just love potatoes, and then 3.5 seems a little thin. And the grater cuts pizza so thinly with feathers, everything will be baked quickly on pizza at once. And birthday. only after 3 months, sorry, I ought to find a sponsor ... Now I will copy all the photos for myself and will look at them at my leisure.
And I also like Roko's slicing better. In the photo, she looks less disheveled or something. But which one is easier to wash? I heard that the 1.6 insert is lighter, but in Roko the carrots will get stuck in the holes and you will end up with figs. How does it work on yours?
Mona1
Quote: kubanochka

dopleta!!!!!!!
I know you have all the graters. Tell her what her name is. On the Russian site of Berner it goes like Deco, and on the German Deco the one in the photo above
Probably in German for their market, and for sure nothing falls out there. Send us something worse, as always.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: kubanochka

dopleta!!!!!!!
I know you have all the graters. Tell her what her name is. On the Russian site of Berner it goes like Deco, and on the German Deco the one in the photo above

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This one in the description is called "Waffle-spiral", and the one above is called Deco-Star. Although this one does not take out or move anything, as far as can be judged from the photo. This is who will take them apart
Mona1
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

This one in the description is called "Waffle-spiral", and the one above - Deco-Star. Although this one does not take out or move anything, as far as can be judged from the photo. This is who will take them apart
Or maybe it is inserted somehow from the back side.
dopleta
Quote: kubanochka

dopleta!!!!!!!
I know you have all the graters. Tell her what her name is. On the Russian site of Berner it goes like Deco, and on the German Deco the one in the photo above

Not, not all, this one does not exist, but I don’t need it - Ksyushka is right, this is one of the three varieties of waffle. I still love the waffle classics more than Deco, I love it, I'm used to it, my dear, she is aging with me :), and nothing falls out of her, a faithful friend.
Mona1
Quote: kubanochka

Tomorrow I'll go back to the store and find out. If the saleswoman does not close the store at the sight of me. She will probably dream of stubs for a long time
Look for her under the counter! And I'll buy myself a stub if possible, I don't really trust the sellers. What if she just doesn't know. Maybe, on purpose, Borner does not really apply to this, otherwise the people will find out that you can get average slices this way, they will not be so active I will buy. Switch to Trend. But no, no, it will come in handy as a stub. I probably won't buy a multibox. In general, after 3 months, when I buy a grater and a stub, you will learn first-hand the "mystery of the stub" ...
Mona1
Quote: mowgli

And Curly for what?
Someone wrote that vegetables with this grater in jars look pretty when pickled, carrots, zucchini there, such.

But I wonder, is it inconvenient to make salted cabbage on Trend? Thin cuts are too thin and thick cuts will be too big. And if the Trend is not very good, then is there a separate additional grater, so that it is for this purpose that it is high?
kubanochka
Quote: Mona1

But I wonder, is it inconvenient to make salted cabbage on Trend? Thin cuts are too thin and thick cuts will be too big. And if the Trend is not very good, then is there a separate additional grater, so that it is for this purpose that it is high?

For pickling, I chop cabbage with an electric slicer. The trend for salads, in borscht.
mowgli
Quote: Mona1

Someone wrote that vegetables with this grater in jars look pretty when pickled, carrots, zucchini there, such.

But I wonder, is it inconvenient to make salted cabbage on Trend? Thin cuts are too thin and thick cuts will be too big. And if the Trend is not very good, then is there a separate additional grater, so that it is for this purpose that it is high?
I did it for salting in Trend, in my opinion on a thick one, I don't remember, I remember that in 15 minutes I made a basin
Mona1
This is what I found on the forum City dp yua (I wrote russimi, otherwise I can link there)

"Model" Profi "has another significant difference - the steel case.A significant plus for professionals - reliability is increased significantly, well, style is an important thing if your home kitchen already has a number of steel appliances, and the vegetable cutter is on the desktop. In addition, the "Profi" has a cover insert for the main blade. Firstly, it allows you to get one more cutting thickness, and most importantly, it allows you to store the vegetable cutter without multiboxing and fear of being cut off by the main knives. However, this additional dummy insert is sold separately and fits the Optima and Trend models. "

RoLiS
Girls! Now I found it open while in test mode. an online store at a well-known trading company. There's a Berner on sale there. the full link is not copied for some reason. follow this 🔗 and look further in the section Cutting and processing of products Maybe someone will come in handy
kubanochka
Quote: RoLiS

Girls! Now I found it open while in test mode. an online store at a well-known trading company. There's a Berner on sale there. the full link is not copied for some reason. follow this 🔗 and look further in the section Cutting and processing of products Maybe someone will come in handy

RoLiS Lisa, thanks, but the prices are there
Those graters that I bought today for 200 rubles, there - 275, and I bought Carly for 550, there - 675. Expensive
RoLiS
Kubanochka! Lena! really. they turned down prices. I bought from us in St. Petersburg. in the "7 hills". The check remained. compared -Sudok V-Prima -370 rubles. and there are 545 and so on.
Mona1
Quote: kubanochka

RoLiS Lisa, thanks, but the prices are there
Those graters that I bought today for 200 rubles, there - 275, and I bought Carly for 550, there - 675. Expensive
And right now, I scampered through the Internet, I didn't find your 4.5 mm insert anywhere. Of course, I have not been everywhere yet, right now I will still look. Scarcity, however. How lucky you were to be in stock. So she liked me. You have to work hard to find
Mona1
Quote: kubanochka

Tanya, are you looking only in Ukrainian?
And then here 🔗
They have
That yes, there is, but I'm a hohlushka. Right now, I'll look, I remember something, and we had a type of borner kiev yua, like that.
Mona1
Who seeks will always find
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There is also 4.5 mm for 51 UAH. and a plug for 47 UAH. True, white. And I'm going to take the orange so that it doesn't get too greasy. Well, and then, there is already at least something and that ho: girl_skakalka: rosho.
True, you need to see something really there, passwords are required, suspiciously, maybe even a fake or some scam. Why didn't I like them ..
Olima
Girls, I'll tell you the joke, which was with me today. I had to go to a hardware store today, where they sell small kitchen items: plates, ladles, buckets, well, etc. I look at the display window with a Bernovsky fruit holder for 12 UAH. Well, I'm now an "experienced" Bernovets, I think, for such a price, I can take myself a spare just in case, well, I began to consider him.
And then attention! the pusher head says "original Broner", I deliberately did not change the spelling. In my hands I had a rough Chinese fake, and at what a rough, this is not the right word, the pins have already begun to rust, and the pusher itself was moving very tightly, it simply would not be realistic for them to push vegetables for slicing on a grater ...
In general, I put this Bröner back on the counter and went on.
Mona1
The word original amused.

And I decided to finish the borner with this plug-in and supposedly the ability to make it one more thickness of slices. In short, I sent them a letter with this question on the Russian website of the borner. Now, if they are still alive, they must answer. Why am I writing, if I'm alive, because there is a forum on their website, I read there last spring. I just went there, and there the last messages about graters and all sorts of inserts were six months ago, and on all branches. There was only one thing yesterday, but not about a grater, but about some kind of diamond sharpening, I don't know what it is. And so, everything died, I couldn’t believe my eyes.
dopleta
Quote: Mona1

about some kind of diamond sharpening, I don't know what it is.

Yes, Berner has a diamond cut for ceramic and steel knives.
azaza
Girls who have a pizza grater and karli - help me decide, pliz! I look at the photos of Lena-Kubanochka, and I just can't decide which one to take. I would like both, but I'm afraid that they will repeat functions. Backfill question: which one could you do without? Which one do you use more often? For example, is it possible to crush on pizza not with a grater, but a carly? Can Karlie's fur coat be trimmed? Or is a pizza grater better for them?
Mona, I think your link (on 4.5 and stub) is outdated. It was published in 2009. And in general, the site is some kind of left
lega
Quote: azaza

Girls who have a pizza grater and karli - help me decide, pliz! I look at the photos of Lena-Kubanochka, and I just can't decide which one to take. I would like both, but I'm afraid that they will repeat functions. Backfill question: which one could you do without? Which one do you use more often? For example, is it possible to crush on pizza not with a grater, but a carly? Can Karlie's fur coat be trimmed? Or is a pizza grater better for them?

I have both and have been lying practically idle for a very long time. On Carly, I sometimes cut coarse cabbage for salad, I don't use it ANYWHERE. And the grater is not bad for boiled vegetables (it is completely plastic), that is, you can make a SHUBU on it (how often do you cook it?). What are you going to crush on pizza?. Cheese? ... so cheese and on an ordinary metal one is normal (probably in the house it is). But without the main set (it would be nice to add inserts for 1,6 and 10), as without hands ... And without a pot, I personally would be sad, although many do not use it.
Mona1
Quote: azaza


Mona, I think your link (on 4.5 and stub) is outdated. It was published in 2009. And in general, the site is some kind of left
Yes, even it is dull there. Boom to look further. Maybe Uncle Borner will answer my letter.
azaza
Quote: lga

I have both and have been lying practically idle for a very long time. On Carly, I sometimes cut coarse cabbage for salad, I don't use it ANYWHERE. And the grater is not bad for boiled vegetables (it is completely plastic), that is, you can make a SHUBU on it (how often do you cook it?). What are you going to crush on pizza? Cheese? ... so cheese and on an ordinary metal one (probably in the house it is). But without the main set (it would be nice to add inserts for 1,6 and 10), as without hands ... And without a pot, I personally would be sad, although many do not use it.
Lga, sudoku and 10 mm are planned in review order. 1.6 mm to me absolutely unnecessary. I am ashamed to admit that I don’t make pizza, although I really want to - it’s not useful to me. But I still hope that maybe someday I will be able to afford to misbehave. I adore a fur coat, but she is just as unhelpful to me, so over the past couple of years I made it once or twice.
But cabbage salad is the most frequent guest on my table. Winter cabbage only has to be stewed because of its incredible roughness. Carly's description states that she is allegedly fluffing up winter cabbage. Does she fluff it up symbolically, or does the cabbage get softer after cutting like this?
To be honest, I'm afraid that the basic kit plus ten will actually work. Well, of course. I just can't refuse the waffle - it's so beautiful that I will take it even without need, exclusively for pampering.But I look at Carly and the Pizza Greater, and I can't decide. Intellectually I understand that they are not particularly to me, but in the cut they are so cute In general, I want to type everything at once. But in reality, I'm afraid I don't really need it.
And generally speaking! I'm thinking about Prim again. There are 4 cutting thicknesses, for me this is important. But how reliable is a button with teeth - that is the question. Help someone already! Or advice, or at least knock on the head so that bad thoughts do not come into my head!
lega
Quote: azaza

I am ashamed to admit that I don’t make pizza, although I really want to - it’s not useful to me. But I still hope that maybe someday I will be able to afford to misbehave. I adore a fur coat, but she is just as unhelpful to me, so over the past couple of years I made it once or twice.
But cabbage salad is the most frequent guest on my table. Winter cabbage only has to be stewed because of its incredible roughness. Carly's description states that she allegedly fluffs up winter cabbage. Does she fluff it up symbolically, or does the cabbage get softer after cutting like this?

Tanya, here I can set up cabbage for Carly tomorrow ... really for a salad from winter cabbage is a very good option. I really understand about pizza and a fur coat, I myself ... very rarely I play a little with a fur coat, but because of this, you should not keep an extra grater.With our sore, cabbage on Karli is very VERY even, it's still nice to add such cabbage to meatballs. It turns out pretty small ..
About 1.6 in vain you think you don't need it. With such a cutter, it's fine vitalinkin salad from celery root it turns out - we can, healthy and tasty!
kubanochka
Quote: azaza

Girls who have a pizza grater and karli - help me decide, pliz! I look at the photos of Lena-Kubanochka, and I just can't decide which one to take. I would like both, but I'm afraid that they will repeat functions. Backfill question: which one could you do without? Which one do you use more often? For example, is it possible to crush on pizza not with a grater, but a carly? Can Karlie's fur coat be trimmed? Or is a pizza grater better for them?

Tan, once upon a time, in the early 90s, I bought myself a Berner. I bought everything that was available at that time. With the release of a new model, I bought a new one, etc. So ... I didn't even unpack that first Carly, so I didn’t open the package and gave it away. The pizza grater has been exploited several times (and this is over 15 years). Perfectly managed with the basic kit. Then, two years ago, I gave everything and bought myself a Mandolin in the Metro. But the truth has triumphed! Last year I bought Berner again, there is nothing better than him! Carly and pizza-grater, taking into account past experience, did not buy, until yesterday I did not buy ... I bought pizza-grater for boiled vegetables, for a fur coat, for pizza. IRRishka, she told me so well! Then she returned for Carly, from love, so to speak, to Berner. The difference in price is palpable: Pizza - 200 rubles, Carly - 550 rubles.
In Carly's defense - you can grate nice noodles from frozen dough.
This is my experience. But dopleteAs far as I remember, Carly really likes it.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: kubanochka

Tanya, are you looking only in Ukrainian?
And then here 🔗
They have

Here in the description is, but not on sale. So I would definitely buy an insert 4.5, and probably a plug, although I keep it in the box.
dopleta
Quote: kubanochka


In Carly's defense - you can grate nice noodles from frozen dough.
This is my experience. But dopleteAs far as I remember, Carly really likes it.

Aha! But I love a lot of things that are not the most urgently needed. So, if there is a question of saving, then it is quite possible to do without it.
azaza
Girls, thanks a lot! Thanks to you, I'm giving up the Pizza Greater in favor of Carly. Winter cabbage is very important in my diet. Well, if I happen to hit something on a pizza or a fur coat, I think I can successfully do it on Carly. And if not, then I do not plan to throw out the usual grater.
As for the savings. Yes, I still try to save money where possible. But I prefer to save wisely. Therefore, I buy Carly, which is 2.5 times more expensive than Pizza. But I deliberately refuse 1.6 mm. First, the result is not impressive. Secondly, I have as many as three fine graters in my combine, and as a result I hardly use them. Well, if later I realize the need for thin straws, I'd better buy the Rocco trend. On it, the result is more interesting and, as I understood, nothing gets stuck (unlike the classic Rocco).
azaza
Thanks to the reviews of caring Bernerologists, I decided on additional graters. Thank you girls !!!
And the main question remains open: Trend or Prima? Prima or Trend?
In a previous post, I mentioned my supposedly sensible frugality. Based on it, I doubt whether it is worth saving on the main set. Trend = reliability and durability. Prima = 4 slice thicknesses. What's more important? I would not want to be left without a grater in a year or two because of 4 cutting options (in case of broken teeth and / or buttons).
Actually, I'm worried because of the longitudinal slicing of eggplants. Girls, did anyone cut eggplants for moussaka on Trend? I love her with tender love, and I am afraid that the layers will come out too thin and, after frying, they will break when placed in a mold. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it worth neglecting the reliability of the Trend and buying a beautiful Prima because of eggplant alone?
And one more question. Could you measure the width of the Trend and Prima (who has what).There is not enough space in the kitchen, I don’t want to keep a grater in the table (I’m afraid, then I will cut it with a knife more often), I’m looking out in advance how it is more convenient to place a purchase so that all the extras are at hand. graters, not just the basic kit. I would be extremely grateful!
And there are exactly two weeks left before the purchase. My hands are itching to the point of "I can’t!", But I don’t want to buy before (because a gift to D.R., and it seems like it’s not comme il faut in advance). And meanwhile I already dream about graters at night
Mona1
Quote: azaza

Thanks to the reviews of caring Bernerologists, I decided on additional graters. Thank you girls !!!
And the main question remains open: Trend or Prima? Prima or Trend?
In a previous post, I mentioned my supposedly sensible frugality. Based on it, I doubt whether it is worth saving on the main set. Trend = reliability and durability. Prima = 4 slice thicknesses. What's more important? I would not want to be left without a grater in a year or two because of 4 cutting options (in case of broken teeth and / or buttons).
say
There are practically no residues in the Trend, but in Prima, they say there is. Ease of use again.
On the other hand, if suddenly, over time, the clove on the Prima breaks off or is erased (there they seem to be on the insert), then you can buy this insert separately. It is all separately there. So I also threw in the pros and cons.
azaza
I thought about the spare frame, I thought. But figs to you: they are only for Classics and Trend, there is no separate frame for Prima. Maybe because it's kind of like a novelty (one and a half or two years like this is not a period for Berner), and in a couple of years the frames for Prima will be released. And if not? If it will be "demolished" by that time, like the VIP-4? So no, not an option. In addition, Berner's guarantee does not cover plastic parts, they only guarantee the sharpness of the knives ...
kubanochka
Tanyusha, buy Trend! Yesterday, when I was in the store, I twisted, twisted Prima. Buy not buy? Well, so that everything was already. The saleswoman dissuaded. And this is the second time they have tried to dissuade me from Prima. When I bought it in the summer, the saleswoman (another, not the one that yesterday) didn't let me buy Prima. And I am very pleased with the Trend! Both in size and in price it is more compact, the vessel is neat. In short! Take the Trend and don't fool your head!
Mona1
Quote: azaza

I thought about the spare frame, I thought. But figs to you: they are only for Classics and Trend, there is no separate frame for Prima. Maybe because it's kind of like a novelty (one and a half or two years like this is not a period for Berner), and in a couple of years the frames for Prima will be released. And if not? If it will be "demolished" by that time, like the VIP-4? So no, not an option. In addition, Berner's guarantee does not cover plastic parts, they only guarantee the sharpness of the knives ...
Plastic, of course, can crumble over time. When you rub directly, the hand pressure on the grater is transferred to the teeth. And this is not just such pressure - even, but pointlike, with each pass with your hand. Even to rub 1 carrot, you probably need to press more than 20 times.
So far I have not read a single review that something happened to the teeth, but this is also a novelty, you are right. I read reviews about VIP-4 that the pins fell out of the holder. I haven't come across this about Prima yet.
Still embarrassing, I wrote yesterday that everything froze on the Burnor forum, there have been no messages for six months. That was actively discussed - Prima has just appeared, the excitement, everyone wants, there is also a branch where they compared Prima with the Trend.
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Look there in the list: "Trend or Prima" "Trend - aka V-3" Right now - silence. Maybe a lot of negativity went to the new product and the forum was closed so that Prima's customers would not be scared away. It is necessary to look for some other forums, except from the borner's site. The most interesting thing is that in the summer there was a branch there specifically for Prima, but right now I don't find it. Have they deleted it? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
azaza
Mona, I already read the Berner forum. In general, before I buy something, I try to get as much information about the product as possible.
Kubanochka, let me kiss you !!! That's it, I take the Trend!
Thoughtfully: how nice it would be to have 4 slicing thicknesses ...
Loudly: girls, well, hit me on the necks, so that I lag behind you with my fermentations!
kubanochka
Here's more in favor of the Trend: 🔗

The opinion of the representative of the Berner website in Russia:
Good day! We will not be able to show "in words" all the differences. If you have so many questions, then you have to get to the trade section and touch everything with your hands, asking about the differences between the seller.

If this is not possible, then take this kit:
1) Vegetable cutter set TREND
2) Roco grater (Korean carrot)
3) TREND slicing vessel
4) Peeler knife TREND
5) Multibox TREND
6) Insert additional 10 mm TREND

And there will be a complete set for all occasions and happiness!


And further:

Buy TREND. Simple, understandable, convenient, unkillable!
After 10 years it gets worn out - buy a PRIMA.
Prima - pampering for connoisseurs with skill. Several additional (to the Trend) types of slicing thickness. In fact, this is not very relevant if you have tomatoes with rings not 2 mm, but 2.5 mm, but much more difficult to manage ...
The trend is a proven technique for years. Recommended!
azaza
Len, well fsё, I finally love you! And I read it, read it! And safely forgot in pursuit of 4 sizes.
IRR
Quote: azaza

Len, well fsё, I finally love you! And I read it, read it! And safely forgot in pursuit of 4 sizes.

well, thank God! can we all be congratulated?

otherwise I’m afraid to come here - so yours hesitated.

Hear, girls, yesterday I was at the Epicenter and felt the usual 4-angle grater, but I’ll tell you Winzer’s OTO! there EVERYTHING is necessary. Now I understand why such graters are so expensive on the Berner website
IRR
Quote: kubanochka

IRR!!!!!! Are you kidding ??? !!!!! Tell me in detail ... my pines will wait ...



well she is so

sharp, you also need a holder, apparently, a rubber gasket is put on the legs, all in one bottle, took - cut, hung - put, 4 types of cutting - a classic grater - but! eerily sharp, and it is clear that not such a metal as everyone else's, darker than steel. The second was triangular and with a latch-stand under the bottom. Type cut, then knocked everything out, but on occasion you can remove it. Simple but very literate. I already thought that for me, not very confused by mm more - mm less, Bernor's already 4 separate will be enough and now I will want one. It happens when a thing falls into the hand

Lena! you probably don't need it - you have everything, go ... to the pines
IRR
Quote: azaza

What are you, IRR, kind!
And the question price? Vinzersky. I remember Berner's

Tanya! : flowers: I just thought that you made up your mind, read about it 3 kilometers ago, that they will bring it to you or something like that. Today I go to the selection

issue price 150 gr. Vinzerovskaya.
Luysia
Quote: IRR


Listen, girls, yesterday I was at Epicenter and felt the usual 4-angle grater, but I’ll tell you Winzer’s OTO! there EVERYTHING is necessary. Now I understand why such graters are so expensive on the Berner website

IRR, are you talking about such rubbers?

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