OgneLo
night_furia, Bosch just works for me ...
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now everything is not right
thats exactly what I mean
night_furia
Marina ま り な, Bosch works fine for many, but mine wanted to get out of it a little, although judging by the data from the plate on the typewriter, it was going to be in Germany. Apparently I really wanted to go back to Germany. In general, I really like the quality of baskets, shelves, holders and dishwashing at my Bosch.
Marfusha81
It's like choosing a washing machine. For some, Indesit has been working for years, and for others, Bosch flies.
Choose what you like in terms of functionality. And there is a guarantee to help you.
Csscandle
And if Medea? I will not be cursed on a bread maker?))
The mille also likes the simplest one.




Yes, what kind of functionality is there to dry well and a tray for spoons on top. The predecessor of the 45 cm aeg with a long-broken tablet compartment ... anything will be better)))
OlgaGera
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Another unpretentious mille likes
If the budget allows, I am for Milka. This is a different class of technology. Good service. It is possible that there is a hot water connection.

Can climb the shops, there are discounts where for exhibition samples
Csscandle
The cheapest milli is the same everywhere for almost fifty dollars.
Still, we are still considering Medea, there are a lot of good reviews and also in Ikea there is a top model at this price, a 5-year warranty. Medea for 2 years.




But I don't want hot water, it's a whim), and its quality raises questions.
Svetlana7
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And if Medea?

Now such Bosch are selling that Medea is better) But, perhaps, it also depends on the model or on the party. I saw Bosch in the store a year ago - it's "something". Medea looked sturdier and better quality.
Csscandle
In general, we ordered a mida, I hope it will serve)
Bijou
Quote: Svetlana7
I saw Bosch in the store a year ago - it's "something". Medea looked sturdier and better quality.
It's amazing ... I constantly read on another forum "why are you all up against Bosch, advertisers? .. I'll go to the store and take a look myself."
And then "I went and looked ... bliiinn ... yes they are all made of flimsy wire! Perhaps Bosch really looks the most decent"

Csscandle, let's hope together.

We bought the last Boshik, so it really looks more flimsy inside than mine from 08 year of birth. ((The sink has not been compared yet, we will only connect one of these days. I also monitored reviews for almost a month on the Internet, already tired ...
Reader007
Girls, where is the story about Medea? I'm really looking forward to it.
madames
Girls! I have an Electrolux car wash. I do not like it, sometimes Finish does not dissolve tablets at all - so the square lies at the bottom of the edge, washes without anything often. And the reviews were amazingly good. And the price is decent, led to the firm. I had to take something else. The sink has started its third year. Who has a decent sink and can wash pots. And what is the best way to wash?
Arnica
And today we were persuaded to buy Piramidu DWN4510. Of course, in terms of parameters, it is pretty decent. But here is the manufacturer China. Factory warranty 3 years. For the same money you can buy a German Bosch, but naturally easier.
Please advise whether it is worth buying a Pyramid, can anyone use it?
sazalexter
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And what is the best way to wash?
For many years I have been using separate means, I don’t respect fast food pills, I buy a large package of powder, rinse aid, if possible from well-known companies, it turns out profitably
madames
sazalexter, Thank you. Clear.
VolzhankaD
My tablet does not dissolve if the compartment is wet. The instructions say that it must be dry, I wipe it dry so that it does not drip before putting it, otherwise I will find it undissolved at the bottom of the sink. As for the individual, I will not say, it is difficult to find them here.I liked the Clean & Fresh tablets, but now they are gone, my Fairy.
Svetlana7
Girls, I bought Somat powder. Tell me, is he supposed to foam inside, does it foam? Finish powder did not foam like that. Have not noticed. Just muddy water and everything seems to be. I'm happy with the somat. But clear foam, I think - should it be?

And another question: how can I clean the upper rocker, where is the upper third basket for cutlery? Cutlery began to be badly washed.
Arnica
Good evening!
Tell me, please, is it worth considering such a PMM? It consumes very little water. Will it be enough for the dishes?

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Or is this better?

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Rituslya
I am also now in the choice. In fact, this is a choice with the most minimal requirements: clean clean, spend less electricity with water and fewer programs.
Bosch was there for about 8 years, but no, now no.
I won't say anything bad, but I haven't seen any good either: the dishes are always stained, the discrepancy between the declared program and the current time.
Here are some amazing reviews when dishes can be crystal clear. I wash and scrub most of the time for 8 years.
Ketsal
Arnica, I have a Boshik easier, so you get bogged down to wait until she rinses the dishes at 3:20 on a standard program, I'm for the first there a standard 180 minutes against 210
Bosch's daughter-in-law has a program of 65 degrees per hour - she washes only on this one
night_furia
Arnica, I like this option better - Bosch SMV 46KX01E. Both machines, judging by the control panel, have a Vario Speed ​​function, which allows you to shorten the washing time on long programs, so that the length of the washing cycle can not be taken into account. The dish baskets are the same, but the programs are slightly different. Bosch SMV 46KX01E has a pre-rinse for dishes, while Bosch SMV 46KX00E does not. But in general, both machines are decent, a separate basket for cutlery is generally a cool thing)
Mirtochka
I have Boshik SMV48M30 for the 4th year already, it washes perfectly, without streaks. I use constantly shortened programs. Due to the strong water hardness, salt is consumed faster. The best cleaning quality is obtained with Finish tablets, those that are soft.
Arnica
Margot, Olga, Mirtochka! Thank you for your participation and advice on choosing a PMM!
I ordered today Bosch SMV 46KX01E, Polish assembly. Instructions in Russian, however, not, but will give a link where to download.
I hope that he will please with his work and help!
night_furia
Arnica, Olga, let it serve for a long time and please. Write your impressions later, maybe they will be useful to someone too.
Arnica
Thank you! I will definitely unsubscribe.
Svetlana7
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Bosch SMV 46KX01E. Both machines, judging by the control panel, have a Vario Speed ​​function, which allows you to reduce the time for washing dishes on long programs
Quote: night_furia
Bosch SMV 46KX01E has dish pre-rinse
Quote: night_furia
separate cutlery basket

PMM Medea MFD 60 / 45S500S / W, for example, has all this too.
Rituslya
Arnica, great! Let your Boshik serve for a long time and do not know wear and tear.

This time I am with Medea at 45 cm. While standing in the corridor, and tomorrow we'll see. Minimum requirements.
1. Full protection against leaks.
2. Short cycle.
Well, indicators for salt and rinse aid consumption.
And I wouldn't buy PM at all if the toad hadn't choked me while washing the dishes.
I wash my dishes and wash them, and hot water pours and pours. I'm afraid to look at the payment this month.
Arnica
Rituslya, Thank you!
I will have the first one, I hope I enjoy it. Still, when washing dishes by hand, more water is consumed.
I also wanted to buy for 45, but our furniture does not work out narrow. At one time, when buying a kitchen, they did not provide for PMM. And if you build in a narrow one, then you need to "play" with one bedside table (sawing off, changing the door). We decided that since it becomes 60 without dancing with tambourines, it means that it should be so.
I also wish you to enjoy your assistant, let her serve for a long time!
Mine will only be sent on Tuesday, we will receive it on Wednesday. Install no earlier than Saturday. But this is ...




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PMM Medea MFD 60 / 45S500S / W, for example, has all this too.

We don't sell Medea.
Svetlana7
And I have not heard about the Polish assembly Bosch) I think it's very good.
Arnica
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And I have not heard about the Polish assembly Bosch).
We sell PMM Bosch assemblies from Germany, Poland and Turkey. The price is correspondingly higher for the German, Turkish PMM assembly is cheaper than the Polish one.

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I think this is very good.
We'll see. I understand that they are being imported illegally, so there is no instruction in Russian or Ukrainian. There are many such techniques here. The main thing is to work well.
Mirtochka
Arnica, type in the search, there is an instruction in Russian for your model. Dishwasher Bosch SMV 46KX01E manual.
Arnica
Thank you! I'll look for instructions.
OgneLo
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Bosch SMV 46KX01E,
Instructions for your car on the Bosch website 🔗
incl.Instruction manual 🔗
Scarecrow
If anyone needs it, I saw 84 capsules of Faerie lemon in the Metro for 660 rubles. I bought it.
Rituslya
I tried my Midea. So cool, little! That's completely unusual. Boshik is so imposing and pot-bellied, and this one is so small that it seems to have freed half of the kitchen.
You shove and shove into Boshik up to the ears, and then something like a couple of trays and a mustache.
I washed it clean in 30 minutes, but the dishes were, of course, wet.
But in fact I never wipe the dishes, so I don't care.
There is no end time display.

I miss the pot-bellied Boshik, so today I would buy it for 60 cm + I would choose an additional rinse.
I don't have it yet, but it was in the old one.
Svetlana7
Quote: Rituslya
End time display
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additional rinse
PMM Medea MFD 60 / 45S500S / W, for example, has it all.
Arnica
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I miss the pot-bellied Boshik, so today I would buy it for 60 cm + I would choose an additional rinse.
I don't have it yet, but it was in the old one.
As always. When there was something good, but it got worse, you always compare and get upset.
Can't you return to the store already?
Rituslya
Svetlana7, Svetochka, thanks, but I chose the most prestigious budget one, because in the previous PM I used one or two programs and it was enough for me.
It’s just now I’m still whining about the departed, well, and comparing in my work, of course.
But my little kitchen turned into a dance floor!
I didn't think 15 cm played such a big role.

No, Olenka, probably not. I've already used it.
Arnica
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But my little kitchen turned into a dance floor!
I didn't think 15 cm played such a big role.
Rita, is your Medea built-in or detached?
Rituslya
Olenka, yes, probably detached, but with a built-in function.
I go and moan what I don't like. The husband says that "load it in full and turn it on, and then you will look."
Yeah, load it up, but I have so many dirty dishes and there are so many.
How do I turn it on ?!
An interesting function is also provided for half load in this machine. Should I wash two plates ?!
Arnica
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Yeah, load it up, but I have so many dirty dishes and there are so many.
How do I turn it on ?!
Borrow from neighbors
Arnica
My assistant arrived today. Beauty! The husband studied the materiel today: he looked at the instructions in the drawings, watched the video on the connection. Maybe tomorrow he will connect, he does not want to wait for Saturday
optimist
Rituslya, I also lacked space at first in my Boshik 45 cm. Now I got used to loading the dishes so that it seems to me that the dishwasher is bursting at the seams. But 1-2 pans still do not fit, I wash my hands. But I wash my dishes in the PM every two days, with rare exceptions, if I loaded every day that place would still remain.
Now, if I did, I would only buy a full-size one.
Sofia71
we chose a rather simple pmm indesit, for 10 sets, for our family of 3 people this is enough. there is an automatic adjustment of water hardness, which is very convenient with our hard water, you do not need to manually adjust anything yourself.
optimist
Virgin, ozone Capsules for the dishwasher Fairy "Platinum. All in One", lemon, 70 pcs -745 rubles.
sazalexter
There is also a powder for dishwashers Somat "Standard", 3 kg 1049 rubles is enough for about 1.5-2 years of intensive washes
Anna76
Csscandle, please write how your medea is a dishwasher. watching too
Csscandle
Somehow I'm not happy, the dishes are wet, even if add. include drying. Perhaps I did not understand it completely, in the summer we were not at home. Well, in comparison with my old lady Ariston, everything is very plastic, although maybe this is the fashion. So nothing breaks, spacious, washes well, devices and everything else are conveniently placed.
Niarma
Girls, does anyone have narrow embedded NEFF PMs (NEFF S581F50X2R, NEFF S581D50X2R, NEFF S581C50X1R are inexpensive ones)? as far as I understood - the German assembly. How are they for the quality of washing and drying?
LenOk511
Hello. I choose a dishware. Bosch or electrolux, in the reviews and videos everything is so fine, and good, I don't even know what to choose.
Bosch SMV46NX01R
Electrolux EMG 48200 L
VerinikaBurik
Good afternoon, help me figure out the PMM, I'm looking at 60cm models, I'm afraid that I won't always load dishes at full load, so I'm considering models with a 1/2 load function, but there are very few of them, there are models with an auto function that itself determines the amount of dishes and washing time. The instructions are written beautifully, supposedly the consumption is from 7 to 14 liters of water, in theory this function should replace 1/2 of the load. Who has a model with such a program, how does it work in practice?

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