* Anyuta *
Quote: sazalexter

Without extension cords, preferably a separate branch, it is very good through the stub. 5-8 kW

now I download the instructions to read about the "stabilizer" there .. if it is not written there .. then not a single service and store has no right to tell me that the machine was connected incorrectly...

Everyone knows EVERYTHING on this site because here you can find any information and help from a specialist too ... ... but we will not voice it out loud!
* Anyuta *
Well, as I thought - not a word about the "stabilizer" .. only about the extension cord is said and about checking for compliance of the electrical network with the PMM passport ... and more, sazalexter, so what about water heating? If it doesn't get warm, then what?
sazalexter
* Anyuta * I just had a similar defect due to a defective heater, and nothing more.
TaTa *

bdzolka

I have an Electrolux EWG 14550 W
Gerda1

I am happy about the light bulb, I have experience of communicating with other PMM bosch, whirlpool ... without a light bulb, it does not affect the quality of the sink, but pleases

bdzolka
TaTa, Electrolux EWG 14550 W is a washing machine ....
I wanted to read what kind of light bulb it was.
TaTa *
Oh
Electrolux ESL 47020

Dmitry P.
Yes, the last pages made me very happy. I somehow on one forum already asked what is the difference between a car for $ 300. e. and for $ 600 e.
The answer is in the flashlights (the beam is on the floor, the beam is still somewhere), in the NAME, in the price. Chemistry does the rest. It can take a while to understand the settings.
Separately about washing machines. I watched the last ad, there are several options for rotating the drum. And in my opinion there are two options for rotation - to and fro. It's my opinion.
P.S. The worse the quality of electricity, the more expensive the machine (equipment) needs to be taken
Does anyone imagine a separate power line when buying new household appliances (I will not list).
fugaska
Quote: Dmitry P.

.... I somehow on one forum already asked what is the difference between a car for $ 300. e. and for $ 600 e.
The answer is in flashlights (a ray on the floor, a ray somewhere else), in a NAME, in a price. ...

why did the flashlights make you laugh? a beam on the floor is a very convenient function, at least for those who wash dishes during the day. I somehow even felt offended for my assistant, I have her with a beam on the floor

Dmitry P.
A simple question - why? Don't answer right away, think.
I will assume - there is no panel, it is not clear that drying is over and it's time to open it.
A laser pointer costs ten rubles, what does it have to do with thousands?
Forgot about the lights inside
fugaska
I would not be so categorical in making fun of any technique! the price from one beam does not increase by thousands

I'll go glue the beam
bdzolka
Quote: Dmitry P.

Yes, the last pages made me very happy. I somehow on one forum already asked what is the difference between a car for $ 300. e. and for $ 600 e.
The answer is in the flashlights (the beam is on the floor, the beam is still somewhere), in the NAME, in the price. Chemistry does the rest. It can take a while to understand the settings.
Separately about washing machines. I watched the last ad, there are several options for rotating the drum. And in my opinion there are two options for rotation - to and fro. It's my opinion.
P.S. The worse the quality of electricity, the more expensive the machine (equipment) needs to be taken
Does anyone imagine a separate power line when buying new household appliances (I will not list).
Why should you buy an expensive car when the quality of electricity is poor?
The husband is just going to draw a separate line. we are out of town, there are voltage drops and are going to carry out regardless of the cost of the dishwasher.
I, too, have not yet quite understood why to pay more. Reliability, I see how lucky. Here is perhaps the quality of washing and drying. I'm ready to pay for it.
And the rays, illumination are nice bows. optional, but can be very rewarding.
At one time we bought a TV set with imbilight (this is a backlight around the edges. It changes color-shade depending on the image on the screen), we are still happy.
Do you have a beko, if I'm not mistaken? Which one? did you initially target this company or did you look at something else? how washes and dries?
TaTa *
Dmitry P.

You shouldn't be talking about the beam on the floor, it's very convenient. PMM (built-in) works piho piho, you can't hear whether it's finished or not, looked at the floor - everything is clear ..
And when I bought, there was no choice, but I urgently needed to finish the kitchen, I didn’t think about these functions, and now I’m not overjoyed
It's like with cars there is air conditioning - why climate control? and so on, what is the difference between an expensive car and a not very expensive one (I'm not talking about a very cheap one).
Dmitry P.
Once again you have confirmed, the beam is needed if the installation does not have a visible display. In drying mode, everything is not clear or it is too early. Maybe they put it in the built-in, then I got hot.
I have a BEKO DSFS 6530. There is nothing to compare, my sister has a tabletop, but no one else. While people are skeptical. I am completely satisfied. Detergents play an important role.
Bosch is said to be quiet. Here is Bosch SMS 53N18.



For me, everything, too, is already called BEKO.
Irma
Good evening or night. Here I am, too, now in the ranks of PM fans. Last time I wrote about my doubts about the budget Siemens 24E2O2. Now I am writing a report: I am very happy with the machine, it works quietly, washes clean and I completely managed without intensive washing. I liked the auto program. She herself determines the working time, she can keep within 45 minutes. It dries dry, even plastic with single drops and even not all of it. I piled up a lot of dishes, accumulated while they were installing and everything was just wonderful without streaks, washed with Finish powder. Thanks for the advice on the forum, what would I do without you ...
makabusha
Photos of Beko dishwasher panel DIN 5834
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And now a question for connoisseurs: which buttons on the panel, touch or mechanical? This is my machine, but it is still unpacked due to the furniture maker's illness, it seemed to me that mechanical (the extreme on-off buttons (it is black, merged with the panel, is next to the fingers in the last photo), half load and with the letter "P") , and the rest are just pictures of modes, which are probably highlighted when you select them with the "P" button. I'm right?

julifera
Quote: makabusha

Photos of Beko dishwasher panel DIN 5834
...
And now a question for connoisseurs: which buttons on the panel, touch or mechanical? This is my car

All buttons are mechanical!

Quote: makabusha

it seemed to me that the mechanical (the extreme on-off buttons (it is black, merged with the panel, is located next to the fingers in the last photo), half load and with the letter "P"), and the rest are only pictures of modes, which are probably highlighted when you select them with the "P" button. I'm right?

Everything is correct
julifera
Here is my socket:

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The facade has already been changed, it swelled up during the meat, poorly made.
And I was already worried that my machine was leaking, but this was easily checked with a napkin along the contour during the washing process.
Now pah-pah - the facade is well done, half a year - complete order.

And yet - when they will screw it on - carefully check the facade on the sides !!!
Cracks can go - in the places where the screws are attached!
The first facade with a side crack was made for me (painted MDF), but I did not notice, because with the other, external visible side, everything was in order.
Everything needs an eye and an eye ...

This crack is visible below:

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bdzolka
julifera, and what kind of beko do you have? Like how it washes and dries?
julifera
Quote: bdzolka

julifera, and what kind of beko do you have? Like how it washes and dries?

BEKO DIS 5831
Fully recessed 45
I chose it after a passionate six-month desire for sophisticated Siemens.
The reviews on my Beko were extremely positive, so I dared to move out to such a budget
The upper basket is rearranged in height, I always keep it in the upper position, because I often wash a lot of oversized things in the lower basket. Oven tray 60 cm - included.
The two rows of dish holders in the lower basket fold up - I already have no idea how you can do without it in 45.
One of the most economical - both in terms of water consumption and energy consumption!

Rinse aid and salt are set to a minimum.
The glass comes out crystal, without streaks and drops.

Favorite combination separately Rinse for 15 minutes + hour for 60 C.
For neglected dishes - I put on a long ECO at 50 C - it washes perfectly even the most dried.
There is a super program for baby dishes - 70 degrees with 3 rinses! - so that less chemicals remain on the dishes.

In general, I have no complaints about the quality of washing.

The only thing that is inadequate in it is the auto-program, but I don’t use it at all, I don’t need a car - I myself decide at what temperature and how long I need to wash, since there are enough programs.

Several punctures were due to:
- bad powder Finish,
- the one that crammed too closely,
- and when both salt and rinse aid came to an end, but there was no signal yet (I realized from the dishes that some of them were running out, as there were some white spots, it turned out that both had to be replenished in a couple of days)
Oca
Quote: makabusha

the rest - only the pictures of the modes, which are probably highlighted when you select them with the "P" button. I'm right?
Julifera answered correctly, but I have doubts about the backlight. Most likely, only the screen with the clock and the "salt" and "rinse aid" icons will light up, and the pictures are just memos (in the English-language piece of paper, the operation of the modes is painted correctly, in Russian there is a clumsy translation). I also have such a request, could you, when you turn on the machine for the first time, see if a) the salt and rinse aid indicators on the display are on, b) the plastic round thing on the compartment is rinsed in the machine itself, and c) is there a light near the lid on the salt compartment. It's a stupid question, but at first I filled up / filled everything up, and only then I connected the extension cord and now I'm waiting for the time to refuel. The instructions say "depends on the model".
bdzolka
Beko owners, how often do you clean your filter? I read that it is not self-cleaning ...
Do you need it after every wash?
* Anyuta *
Quote: bdzolka

After every wash, you probably need it?

I drop in after 2-3 washes .. but it's clean for now .... I have been using the car for the third week, I start it at least once a day, when it happens even 2 ...
sazalexter
My filter 2 times a year when I remember
mowgli
I watch when the machine gives an error
Dmitry P.
Washed twice. It turns out once a month. I think this frequency is normal, there is dirt.
bdzolka
Quote: Dmitry P.

Washed twice. It turns out once a month. I think this frequency is normal, there is dirt.
Tell me, are you talking about the filter inside the machine, near the salt compartment, you say?
I just dug up on the internet that people are still washing some filters (like a drain) I sit and think now ...
Dmitry P.
Yes, inside the car. This is the drain.
Oca
I went to see what and how with Beko's filter. I took out the small mesh, it is clean (I haven't washed it since November 2012), but I can't take out the one into which it is inserted (larger), where the latches are - I don't see. Maybe the second mesh won't be removed? Please enlighten
Dmitry P.
The filter consists of three parts. Metal mesh, glass with a fine mesh, from which a coarse protective mesh is pulled out. All.
Turn the glass counterclockwise and take out. We clean the fine mesh (it is made of plastic) with a toothbrush (it is clear not with our own, the one that is next to it).
julifera
For half a year I cleaned only once, and that because I washed a lot of jars with stickers, basically all were very strongly glued, but it turned out that some were weakly glued.
These stickers were regularly washed, tore into a bunch of small ones, dried up and re-adhered, only not to the cans, but to the side walls of the PMM, naturally and the filter was clogged.

The rest of the time I take out the filter, check it is clean.
But we do not put dishes with leftover food - never.
Oca
and thanks from me! I unscrew it, there are three specks of dust, two specks ... Although the other day there were 4 bottles with stickers, the stickers disappeared without a trace, with the exception of a piece stuck between the basket and the bottle.
Ananda
Good evening, does anyone use the Gorenje dishwasher? Unlike other car brands, there are few reviews for these.
bdzolka
Quote: Ananda

Good evening, does anyone use the Gorenje dishwasher? Unlike other car brands, there are few reviews for these.
I've also searched for them for information. there are almost no reviews. They are sort of rebranding. Look at the model with the third cutlery drawer - it is exactly the same as the Smeg machines. only the price is much less. I wrote a few questions about the dishwasher to the Gorene representative office ..... no answer! Somehow unpleasant. Shop in Kiev is no-aim to sell kitchens. Bosch responds immediately.
Although I have a stove burning 778. I am very happy. (Mmm) I also think to take the second burn.
Maybe they only make good plates ..
If you find info, write, plz.
Irma
Ananda, have you already bought it or are you just going?
Irma
Today in M. the video saw such a beautiful Ariston. There is a transparent door and the top of the machine, there is a backlight from the inside, you can observe the whole process of washing dishes from the side and from above. The product is on sale without a price yet, but I can already imagine how much it will cost ..
Ananda
Irma turns out that I have already bought it, because we came to Tyumen to see the cuisine that we liked when we were just still at the project stage. We arrived, brought a kitchen plan with them to place an order, and for the copy that is on display there is a 40% discount. Only there the sink and hob are already embedded. There is also a fully built-in PSM and an oven. All Gorenje appliances. We wondered how we could squeeze this particular kitchen into our apartment and, in the end, took it along with the appliances. Nobody forced us to take the equipment, just outwardly we liked it very much and there was no need to pick anything up, my husband heard praise from someone. The salon was already selling kitchens with Gorenje appliances, they said there were no complaints yet. At the same time with us, one woman was decorating their kitchen, she changes the whole kitchen along with the appliances, she had Gorenje in the old one, and she also wants only her for the new one. We arrived home, began to read not numerous reviews, but they are very contradictory ...
Irma
Ananda, technique is like a lottery now, how lucky. Will you write us how the car passed the tests, what did you like? It is very interesting to learn about burning from the user. I have a stove of this company, but PMM in Tyumen did not see it. And where did you get the kitchen, in which store? Soon, we will also look for a new one for ourselves, already looking after slowly :)
Irma
Flaksia, for sure! That's what I didn't think about.I have not been using a typewriter for a long time, the second week in total and it’s still curious to see how this whole thing happens in the washing process
Olima
Quote: Irma

I have not been using a typewriter for a long time, the second week in total and it’s still curious to see how this whole thing happens in the washing process

I remembered myself when I bought a washing machine, I probably also watched it turn and turn for about a month. And now I don't pay attention at all
makabusha
Today the furniture maker finally came .. he said that for the fronts of the dishwasher there should be iron fasteners such as clips ... and in my Beko there are some plastic ones .... I remember somewhere already the fastenings of the facades were discussed .. can someone poke a finger or will tell right away?
Jefry
I have two plastics at the top and two metal clips at the bottom. In fact, fastening the facade to the installation is not entirely trivial, so there should be a very detailed instruction with pictures. And manufacturers respecting the client still put in a template for marking the facade (I didn't have it, but they are mentioned everywhere in Boshev's manuals)
Ananda
Irma, interior salon D.concept, kitchen studio "Hacker". The kitchens are German, I will not try the machine soon, because the apartment is not ready yet.
Volume
I chose PMM for a long time, read it everywhere and everything I could find. This thread too.Thanks to everyone who posted their posts here, it was a great help in choosing an assistant for me.
It is very difficult to choose from the many offered machines the one that will satisfy all my needs. And the company too, given the financial possibilities ..
Thanks to you, I chose a larger model (I wanted 45cm before, I already ordered it, but they were not available and this helped me in the future).
Here I am sharing my joy! I chose Siemens 25M 812 RU. We connected it and for 10 days it improves my mood! How great it is! : girl_manikur: I cook, and all the dishes are hers.
First, I bought HP at the beginning of the year and came here for recipes and for increasing "professionalism". But ....... Further more-acquired CF. And now I am the owner of this "Cinderella".
Thanks again!
Now I will experiment with the amount of powder. All absolutely dishes, including the baking sheets, have already been washed (or rather, she, and I was just cleaning off the old fat). The powder was poured over the upper riser, of course I know that this is a lot. But it was necessary to wash the unwashed! Please tell me where this issue was discussed, if possible. Everything only regarding the choice of PMM was deposited in my head. I can hardly read such a number of pages a second time.
annnushka27
Tom, congratulations on Cinderella! If you are asking about powder, there is a separate topic. HERE.
makabusha
Quote: Jefry

I have two plastics at the top and two metal clips at the bottom. In fact, fastening the facade to the installation is not entirely trivial, so there should be a very detailed instruction with pictures. And manufacturers respecting the client still put in a template for marking the facade (I didn't have it, but they are mentioned everywhere in Boshev's manuals)
My Beko does not have a book in Ukrainian or Russian .. gray .. probably .. we will look in the internet ..
Alekh
Owners of Beko 6530, please tell me how long the drying indicator should be on the display, on my freshly bought in any mode the drying icon lights up literally for 10 seconds, and then the program end indicator, while the fan is not audible. The dishes are practically dry after washing. Should it be, or is it a defect?
innesss-ka
Quote: Alekh

Owners of Beko 6530, please tell me how long the drying indicator should be on the display, on my freshly bought in any mode the drying icon lights up literally for 10 seconds, and then the program end indicator, while the fan is not audible. The dishes are practically dry after washing. Should it be, or is it a defect?
Alekh, I have exactly the same in 6833. At first I also wanted to ask, and then I stopped sweating. If you track the cycle, you will notice that 20-30 minutes before the end of the program (depending on its duration), the machine calms down, occasionally connecting the pump (?), At this time, as I understand it, drying is in progress. Well, what about the indicator? ...
Olchik
I have BEKO DSFN 6530. Condensing drying, so no fan can be heard (it just isn't there). The drying icon lights up depending on the selected program (more often I use 58 minutes, there drying is about 10 minutes, on intensive - 20 minutes, if necessary, then I will write more precisely) and lights up throughout the entire drying stage.
* Anyuta *
Read above my post about Veko 6530 ... my documents are being prepared for the court (for a refund from the store) .. "drying" lights up when you want!
vega1981
: crazy: I looked closely at the dishwasher firm Midea, the model is like this Midea WQP8-9347, and this one MIDEA WQP12-9348, and BEKO DSFN 6831 X and BEKO DSFS 1530... Maybe someone has live experience in using these models. Please share. I want a budget and energy-efficient and high-quality machine.

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