Dishwasher selection (2)

[julifera, Sandy, Creamy!]

So yes, I drove it through the links.
There are plenty of people thirsty for a width of 40-41 cm, but there are no market offers
Narrowest 44.6cm

julifera, Sandy, Creamy! Girls thank you
Well, let's wait, we can come up with something manufacturers

In this branch there was an example of where to get the extra 5 cm, there is somehow removed the extra wall between the two kitchen cabinets .. something like this .. if you remember who had it .. you can immediately ask ... in my opinion Studs ...

Hello to all girls, not dishwashers !!! : bravo: a couple of weeks ago I just went to read what kind of animal such a dishwasher is. And, oh shit, for the second day my beloved washes everything that I stuff into her. Today it was festive dishes on the 30gr program. Everything is super! Thank you, dear ones, for writing your observations and helping others thereby.
My choice was not easy. She tossed between Bosch and Beko. As a result, I ordered delivery to the store from the Ardo warehouse: girl_haha: When it was already possible to pick it up, we went and bought Beko DSFS1530 So understand us women)) I bribed a 2-year warranty, well, and saved 3500 compared to Bosch. Then the fun began. Where I planned to put it, I didn’t like it, my husband had to make a small sink out of the sink. Sawed off the bottom, rearranged one wall, I had to buy a new sink, because it was for the whole curbstone. All the holidays were spent, but now everything is in place and happy. Thank you all again for how many good things you wrote about their typewriters

[Natulya]

Natulya Congratulations on your assistant. You are well done for not delaying the purchase for a long time. There are good reviews about Veko, we do not have them for sale, I was looking for them at one time.

We also have almost none. Here mine was in one store, and they took it. And another one was 6830 discounted due to a small dent in the rib. I wanted to take it, but something stopped me, and the functions are the same, only because of the display it is more expensive by 1000r. In short, they returned and took mine, they also did not wait for the delivery, they themselves pinned it Neither the Eldorado nor the Refrigerator. RU. no Beko for some reason. And in general, dishwashers of 4-5 models 45cm and the same 60cm. that's the whole choice.

Girls and boys! Yesterday I washed the dishes for the first time in my dustbin! What a miracle it is! I transported my dishes, which had been packed in boxes for 5 years already and decided to try it out - this is something! Even the old plates that I thought to send to the village - as if only from a factory, but I forgot to make glasses of water samples - I set the rinse aid at 4 - this is how the manufacturer recommends for a start, salt poured in 1 kg, powder 25 g (I have all the means "Domol ") - almost perfect! (if anything, I licked the plates - they were delicious!) I have already phoned all my friends and acquaintances (some still think that I am with my forever new bells and whistles - that's what they need!) I want to say a BIG THANKS to all, all our forum users for great tips!
By the way, our water is disgusting - over time, some yellowish coating appears on the dishes - as if it is not washed every day! I soak it from time to time in a large container of baking soda and boiling water, and now it's over! By the way, I liked the Domol dishwasher products, but the gel for hand washing was not impressive. I used to use "Sarma", only it hasn't become very much lately, but now I've returned to it again - it kills the smells on the dishes even after the herring! (Not advertising!)

Tatyana, congratulations on your purchase! I'm not overjoyed either: yahoo: Now I have prepared, I put everything in the car, wiped the tables and cleanliness. How I adore my assistants: a cartoon, a washing machine and a dishwasher - I don’t mind any money for them.In my environment, they don't really understand me either. But I work at home, I have time to read about everything on the Internet. I think that if I hadn't gotten to know this technique here, then I would definitely not have taken it in the store, who knows what. So praise the internet! I recently bought a ceramic knife after reading here. I wouldn't have looked at the expensive one (why do I have few knives?). And today the liver is frozen whack-whack, and there is no need to wait until it thaws.

Girls and boys want to join your ranks, but it's so hard with a choice, tell me about this Bosch SPS 53E08 model

Girls and boys! Since the dishwasher was purchased and completely spoiled me, you yourself understand that for some reason I absolutely do not want to wash anything with my hands ... washed the frying pan) So, I think, but how do you wash all sorts of little things in the dishwasher that can fall down? I got an idea - and if you put them in some kind of grid like those that sell onions - it's true, there is synthetics ... Nobody invented anything else? And yet, I already wrote that according to the manufacturer's recommendation the rinse aid was at 4. Everything seems to be fine, I licked the plates - my husband found it, by the way), they are tasteless. But then I tried to drink tea from newly acquired glass frosted mugs - there is no taste, but there is a smell, I moved the rinse aid to 3, let's see what happens ...

At my basket for spoons-forks, the top is unfastened and you can put some little things inside. Look, maybe yours is the same? I also have rinse aid immediately at 3. It's okay, I also licked

[Natulya]

At my basket for spoons-forks, the top is unfastened and you can put some little things inside. Look, maybe yours is the same? I also have rinse aid immediately at 3. It's okay, I also licked

I have this non-separable design!Natulyadid your spouse catch you licking too? You should have seen my eyes! Barely explained!

So, I think, how do you wash all sorts of little things in the dishwasher that can fall down? I got an idea - and if you put them in some kind of grid like those that sell onions - it's true, there is synthetics ... Nobody invented anything else?

It just so happens that I don't have a cutlery basket at all. So I bought a plastic basket-holder for spoons of forks on the market for 11 UAH, it is all in the holes, the pallet is removed, there are also holes at the bottom, there is also a trifle box. if you need a photo, I'll do it.

I also bought a plastic basket for forks and spoons. The native basket is large, and when there are few spoons and forks, it makes no sense to take up space in the car with it, I use a small basket.

I just hang the spoons, and the forks slip, I put them on the cup holder. This is when the basket has no place.

And I place small things in the basket and on the shelves for cups. Although sometimes it is very problematic to place all this so as not to fall out and fall down.

Virgin, what are you washing so small, if not a secret? I recently had a typewriter, I washed all the crystal, sets, figurines, but there wasn’t really anything very small to puzzle me like that. Gold-brillants stoll?

Gold-brillants stoll?

And what, the idea.
I recently, for example, washed the stove handles and burner caps on the stove, barely fitted them, because they fell through all the shelves, and on the shelf for the cups did not fit properly.

Virgo, what are you washing so small, if not a secret? I recently had a typewriter, I washed all the crystal, sets, figurines, but there wasn’t really a very small one that puzzled me like that. Gold-brillants stoll?

Confectionery equipment - different attachments, stamps, molds, and lids from small jars
This is the truth my husband says - all progress comes from lazy people

This is the truth my husband says - all progress comes from lazy people

That's for sure, I say to my husband: "We cultivate and groom your laziness, before at least he would wash the plates, but leave the fork and cup, but now - nothing needs to be washed"

We have such plastic glasses with lids for children, there is still a tube coming to them, so this tube is forever, it gets dirty inside and can't be washed in any way, I put it in the dishwasher, I also put it in the upper basket while standing. So she fell in the process and because of her, the lower rocker stalled, all the dishes remained dirty. Therefore, not everything can be put just like that, you have to use the cutlery basket.

That's for sure, I say to my husband: "We cultivate and groom your laziness, before at least he would wash the plates, but leave the fork and cup, but now - nothing needs to be washed"

Just about, and I tell my husband that progress is driven by men, because they are lazy women. And the more often we involve men in domestic work, the faster progress will move.

Precisely, I did not think about the burner caps, but the grill from the stove did not fit - it is one-piece. And without a basket of the top, I'm afraid to wash something. They say that water beats at the door. And in general, my stove today fell apart into parts, I wanted to change it for a long time, but at the wrong time she arranged for me such a dirty trick - the handle from the oven broke off, cannot be restored.

That's for sure, I say to my husband: "We cultivate and groom your laziness, before at least he would wash the plates, but leave the fork and cup, but now - nothing needs to be washed"

That's it, and I tell my husband that progress is driven by men, because they are lazy women. And the more often we involve men in housework, the faster progress will move.

My husband does not wash the dishes at all, although he has his own range of duties, which I do not do anywhere - he vacuums (as a word, I even somehow at my sister's, having come to help her, could not turn on the vacuum cleaner - I entered role), cleans the bath, takes out the trash and carries heavy bags from the market, I have nothing to do with this (well, except for garbage sometimes, very rarely). So, he didn't seem to mind buying a dishwasher (as, by the way, and my other gadgets), but when I turned it on for the first time with him, he ran groaning around the meter and promised to turn off the wire going to the kitchen and close the meter with a key ( our father-in-law grabbed such a cool box for the counter somewhere - with a key) It seemed to be joking - well, I told him that then he would have to master, in addition to his duties, washing dishes And explained the principle of operation and consumption of energy and water with this contraption. Everything, silence ... However, he never argues with me ...

Precisely, I did not think about the burner caps, but the grill from the stove did not fit - it is one-piece. And without a basket of the top, I'm afraid to wash something. They say that water pounds at the door. And in general, my stove today fell apart into parts, I wanted to change it for a long time, but at the wrong time she arranged for me such a dirty trick - the handle from the oven broke off, cannot be restored.

When I chose a gas surface for myself, I specifically found it to be of 2 halves - after reading this particular topic before

girls, I'm here with a question. I have a full-fledged dishwasher, well, in the sense of 60cm. periodically I stuff a baking sheet there, but I hardly shove it. it seems like you can't really fill the dishwasher in a day, but the baking sheet won't fit! question: owners of narrow dishwashers, how do you cram the baking sheets? Or is my baking sheet so huge? sideways it turns out bad, but put on the plates - the dirty cups will remain ... I put the pots on - seven sweats come off
maybe my hands are crooked? share practical secrets, pliiiiiz

[fugaska]

fugaska

I have a PMM 45, an oven 60

The baking sheet fits well diagonally because it is possible to raise the upper basket.
If at 60 it is not possible to lift the upper basket, then maybe there is a plug and it can be removed altogether - I saw that they also wash baking sheets this way.

I put a large baking sheet at an angle, so to speak, from one corner-side, and tilt it as far as I can, but then I can't put a single pan under it. And I came to the conclusion - it's better with his hands. And, in general, I use narrow baking trays from another stove, those, of course, become in my PMM 45 centimeter.

With a diagonal arrangement, the plates fit in - and that's good!

I don't know how anyone has it, but in my oven, all three native baking trays are enameled. And enamel and vigorous detergents in PMM are not good friends. Enamel trays on the shore - when baking, I cover them with paper when baking or foil in other cases, they rarely or very little get dirty, I save them and wash them by hand. But to make my life easier, I bought a whole arsenal of professional stainless trays, pans, gastronorm containers of all sizes. The production of Italy and Germany, of course, is expensive, but they are all wonderfully washed by the dishwasher, and I have a rest.

I put a large baking sheet at an angle, so to speak, from one corner-side, and tilt it as far as I can, but then I can't put a single pan under it. And I came to the conclusion - it's better with his hands

here I am doing this ... I thought I was the only one

And enamel and vigorous detergents in PMM are not good friends. Enameled baking trays on the shore - when baking, I cover with paper for baking or foil in other cases

Enameled baking trays, now I bake on silicone rugs, if I slap a baking sheet, then only on the sides, when smearing the pies. Surprisingly, the rug itself is difficult to stain with something after cooking, it is enough to wipe it with a rag and soap. For the future, I plan to buy a large rectangular shape made of silicone (like a trough), so as not to scrub the leaked-burnt filling from under the rug and not fiddle with paper / foil. I recommend I washed my molds in the PMM three times already, I'm happy with how a little elephant And the pies / potatoes / chicken are cooked and there is no need to wash the baking sheet.

For the future, I plan to buy a large rectangular shape made of silicone (like a trough), so as not to scrub the leaked-burnt filling from under the rug and not fiddle with paper / foil. Recommend

I do not wash silicone molds well, you need to rub them very well and for a long time. And I have them from 3 different manufacturers. The baked goods themselves bounce well, but small crumbs, smears of butter are so fry! At this point, I am very disappointed. Enamel baking trays are washed at once, and silicone ...

Strange, my "corrugated" muffin molds were just difficult to wash in every fold, they are soft, I was afraid to break when pressed. I tried a lot of detergents and brushes. The crumbly oil was disappointing, but after washing in the lower basket, they looked like new! To celebrate, I even bought rose forms, they are also washed Poorly, only the egg on the sides, with which the baking was smeared, was washed - but you can wipe it off with a cloth before washing, and entrust the fat to the machine.

It’s like this for me - specifically, the molds were washed normally, those in which there was not a lot of oil in life.
And all the silicone scoops-spoons, which I interfere with hot oil, silicone splash protector - this is not washed off, the fat remains.
Moreover, they began to stink of detergent.

Please tell me, do dishwashers 45 cm differ only in size and number of loads?
someone uses the DELFA DDW-451 dishwasher, I want to take it to a removable hut, otherwise I'm already tortured

Try to take a 60 cm dishwasher. Your life will become much easier. All the plates can easily fit into a 45 cm car, but these 15 cm pots are often not enough. In order not to drive the car once again, waste electricity, water and detergent and your personal time for loading and unloading PMM. The 60 cm machine is more economical. They have the same consumption of water, detergents and electricity.

[marcy]

marcy , someone has a Delphi dishwasher here, look on the branch. Better any dishwasher than none.
A large dishwasher is good, but if the apartment is rented, is there a reason, often because of its size it is difficult to fit it into the kitchen. And you are not insured against moving and the kitchens are different in the apartments. Still, narrow in your situation is more appropriate, in my opinion: more chances to fit in any kitchen, and in transportation, if anything, easier.

Well, then, of course, a large one is better, and even better if it has a half-load program. By the way, I have a narrow one. There was no room for a big one, but there are only two of us in the family, so ... I get around. I love her, right now she washes mountains of dishes, and I'm on the internet.

I read everything, read and dream of PMM. I can't afford a built-in one, we don't have a standard kitchen and the furniture is made exactly for it. Therefore, I want to remove the shelf in the cabinet under the sink and put the desktop PMM there. There are three of us, there are not many dishes. Please advise what is better to choose in the average price option.

Anya, the only thing I can say is that Delfa is not a very firm company. Last year we bought a water heater from this company, after 2 weeks ten flew. A friend's air grill of this company did not last for 2 weeks, came yesterday, complained. Multicooker is also "non-camilfo". So, against 45 cm I have nothing, but the company did not inspire confidence in me.

[Grypana]

Pay attention to Beko - half the price of Bosch and many are satisfied with the quality
I join Grypana - I would not take Delfa - so far there is no trust in her.

Yes, I myself am already afraid to take the equipment of such manufacturers, it is better to overpay, I have been burned more than once, but as always, the price tempts)))
Here, I am looking at Bosch now, 4 thousand UAH, a little expensive for me at the moment, but not so scary, you can find it.
what say?

In Ukrainian online stores, in particular in Odessa, there is a CENTURY from 2500 grams, 5 years warranty !!!!
And since the reviews are good, I would take it. Unfortunately, we did not have Veko and is not on sale now. At one time I was looking for this particular company.
Of course it's up to you.

And I would take a closer look at the CENTURY. Many are happy, at least I haven't heard anything bad and even washes very decently and has a set of functions that are in demand. I have no complaints with ARDO.

[marcy]

marcy BOSCH SGS56E42EU is a decent machine, albeit a budget one. I would also take a closer look at AEG-Electrolux

[sazalexter]

Listen to opinion sazalexter, he is our service technician and electronics guru, and just a wonderful person. On our forum in terms of technology, he deserved indisputable authority will definitely not advise Bad.

4 thousand UAH, a little expensive for me at the moment, but not so scary, you can find it.

I suffered myself, went shopping, poked my nose into every one ... Then I went to the Yandex market, chose the parameters that seemed to me the most important, the result was 0 models, removed a couple of checkmarks - 3 cars were displayed, among which was DSFN 6830 Extra
But then I noticed DIN 5833 Extra (thanks for a mistake in the name on the store's website!)
The second is almost a copy of the first, only built-in and cheaper than a stand-alone one. The price without kopecks is 11800 rubles, collected in Turkey, no burrs stick out, nothing stinks, there are sides and a door (silver color), only on the roof there is some kind of cardboard plastic - but this is treated by buying a piece of wood in the size of PMM or by embedding it under the countertop. when drying dishes from the lower right rear corner when viewed from the front. Eats 13-18 liters of cold water, depending on the program. Quite quiet: at night the kitchen door was open, I sleep behind the wall, I only heard a timid pee-pee in the morning. The only thing, I did not immediately select the rinse aid settings and the dose of powder, the first two times there were stains from the powder, but once by the seventh I realized what and how. now we

Girls and boys, I want a dishwasher)) but with a choice, it’s very hard ... I want some good one .. but money bites too, since a new apartment, everything is needed ((
Well, I was thinking about Girls and boys, I want a dishwasher)) but with a choice it's very hard ... I want some good ... but money bites, since a new apartment, everything is needed ((
Well, I was thinking about BOSCH SPV50E00EU or BOSCH SPV40E00EU, the difference in money there is very small, but in terms of functionality, the first has a little more than anything. I thought that I was going to the store, which will be on the spot, and I will take that. And then I read the forum .. and I'm already thinking about BEKO .. but I don't know what good models there are .. I need a fully-built 45 cm. Well, something like this .. tell me what is better brother .. and I want BOSCH, but BEKO will be cheaper (as already mentioned, the budget is not very big). I'm confused now ..

BOSCH SPV50E00EU and BOSCH SPV40E00EU are the first budget model, like Beko, the second in a higher class.

[Niunia]

Girls and boys, I want a dishwasher)) but with a choice it’s very hard ... I want some good one .. but money bites, as a new apartment, everything is needed ((
Well, I was thinking about Girls and boys, I want a dishwasher)) but with a choice it's very hard ... I want some kind of good .. but money bites, since a new apartment, everything is needed ((
Well, I was thinking about BOSCH SPV50E00EU or BOSCH SPV40E00EU, the difference in money there is very small, but in terms of functionality, the first has a little more than anything. I thought that I was going to the store, which will be on the spot, and I will take that. And then I read the forum .. and I'm already thinking about BEKO .. but I don't know what good models there are .. I need a fully-built 45 cm. Well, something like this .. tell me what is better brother .. and I want BOSCH, but BEKO will be cheaper (as already mentioned, the budget is not very big). I'm confused now ..

Niunia - pay attention to the full construction

BEKO DIS 5831

Reviews about her are very positive
I am very pleased with it - it is economical in terms of both water and electricity consumption, the upper basket is rearranged in height, there is a half load, it is possible to put the pins in the lower basket so as not to interfere.

And I have problems with BEKO DIS 5830, it is a year old, the warranty is over, it washes well, but two days ago, when the dishwasher was turned on, they began to knock out the machines in the apartment, they removed the entire load anyway, it knocks out when it is turned on. : pardon: The master came and disassembled it, it turned out that everything was wet inside the door, so the protection worked. The rinse agent seemed to flow out inside, the master seemed to find that the hole and the sealing gum did not match, filled it with some kind of sealant, said not to use it for two hours so that it hardened. I already tried to wash the dishes, everything seems to be fine, let's see what happens next. Why do we think that rinse aid was leaking out, because two weeks ago I noticed its rapid consumption, when set to 1, this was not the case before.

And I have problems with BEKO DIS 5830, it is a year old, the warranty is over

It's a shame, I hope this is the first and last breakdown. Warranty for Beko equipment (IMHO) for at least 2 years:

The company "BEKO" grants the consumer the right to receive an additional warranty from the manufacturer + 3 years if the consumer fulfills all the established conditions. In all other cases, the standard warranty for the product is 2 years.

+3 years - this is if you register the equipment within a month from the date of purchase. I have already received a certificate