Choosing a dishwasher

[nadinadi]

Girls and boys now have acquired a miracle technique. And how everyone had a number of questions.

nadinadi, before that he believed that the thought of the need for a dishwasher can only be visited by a city dweller.
In general, you should not abuse fast programs, and even with pills ... But I came up with a specially for you: maybe you should soak the pills first? Put it in the compartment, splash water there and close. And then lay the dishes. So there will be an extra 5-10 minutes to dissolve the tablet ...

I have PMM not long ago. Here I try how and what. Then you choose the best one for yourself.
Sometimes you need to wash the dishes quickly. Especially when there is a holiday. A bunch of all kinds of mixers, blenders. So the question arises, can the tablet be divided into four parts, for short programs or without detergent.

Sometimes you need to wash the dishes quickly. Especially when there is a holiday. A bunch of all kinds of mixers, blenders. So the question arises, can the tablet be divided into four parts, for short programs or without detergent.

It is better not to wash without detergent ... but you can divide the tablet .. into four parts - SUPER economical, but I would not do that (take care of the PMM drain system) ... it's better into two parts ..

Yes, I look with a bunch of hassles with these pills ... Maybe it's easier to take the powder and not suffer?

Yes, I look with a bunch of hassles with these pills ... Maybe it's easier to take the powder and not suffer?

so I think so on kandy I sat on pills almost all the time, the system for dosage of salt and rinse aid was very badly implemented there - you can set it up, the dishes were salty and white. And on the Bosko I immediately went to separate. And there is no trouble there - once every few weeks add one and once (I don't know how much, but for a long time) add another. And you pour the product yourself, as much as you need, not the pill manufacturers. Is there stubborn dirt and a lot of grease? slightly more. Plates from salads and porridge? Let's pour less ...

and there are also pills, in the middle there is such a ball .. you can shoot yourself while you share them - the ball is super hard and one half stays with it, and the other is empty .. but I'm worried - what if there are super valuable detergents ??

I suffered so much and switched to powder, very wonderful

And another question. PMM is small and large. And what pills they did.
And it is not harmful to open the machine during operation. Now everyone is interested in what is happening there and they drop in.

k.alena, I must fall asleep salt, and set the rinse to 1, I buy my gel for 380-400 rubles, depending on where I buy it, and $ 22.5 is certainly cool. I fill in the gel with 10-15 ml, I filled in the final grinding more.

Well, this is what happens - the Domol package is 1.8 kg, I pour approx. 30-40 ml, this is 35 g (specially weighed). It turns out that the packaging is enough for approx. for 51 sinks. Let 50 for simplicity of counting. It costs us approx. UAH 70 ($ 8.75). Now a bottle of gel is 480 ml, for a sink at least 10 ml, that is, a bottle for 48 washes. And it costs 180 UAH. , more than 2.5 times
We will wait until they start to import in large quantities and it will become cheaper.Although Domol suits me perfectly, but a bunch of washing and cleaning products are very interesting
Although I came across these products in a large shopping center, where all prices are not very We will look (c)

And another question. PMM is small and large. And what pills they did.
And it is not harmful to open the machine during operation. Now everyone is interested in what is happening there and they drop in.

This will pass)) Not harmful at all for the car, but for a curious nose it can be a little dangerous All of them, of course, block the pumps and rocker arms when the door is opened, but if the jet somehow already flies unsuccessfully, then you can get hot spray on the nose. And so - opening is the norm of life, you will always put it in, turn it on ... and then it turns out that the child has rested a saucer somewhere, or missed a spoon in the corner of the sink - you need to add it. Or, for example, if you unsuccessfully lay it down, and the rocker jams with some dish protrusion, you have to open and pull it out. But usually you can immediately hear it, if it is spinning, it is spinning, the sound is spinning-splashing or its absence, you will quickly learn to recognize it.

[Ernimel]

Ernimel, similarly! You will always forget something somewhere - I put it in and don't bother. You just need to open it carefully, not for plowing right away, but just a little, literally so that the lock will click. I wait for the water to calm down, then I open it completely - it's literally 2-3 seconds.

packaging Domol 1.8 kg, I pour approx. 30-40 ml, this is 35 g (specially weighed

k.alena , and I give 20-25 ml for one wash and 5-7 ml for the preliminary one - everything is perfectly washed. I have a 45 cm PMM.

[k.alena]

k.alena , and I give 20-25 ml for one wash and 5-7 ml for the preliminary one - everything is perfectly washed. I have a 45 cm PMM.

I usually do the same, because the machine is rarely crammed to capacity. I considered this for Domol to the maximum, and for the Japanese gel to a minimum. Domol won anyway. I also have 45 cm.
And you can open the first 10-15 minutes (for an automatic program for 80 minutes). This even the master told me and the instructions say. And he gave such recommendations from splashes. Only the machine will add a little rinse aid for each opening. It's so programmed for her, the master said

Yesterday I bought Sanit salt and powder in Auchan. After washing, the dishes will hold together, no smell, washed well. I came to the conclusion that all powders are washed in the same way.

Yesterday I bought Sanit salt and powder in Auchan. After washing, the dishes will hold together, no smell, washed well. I came to the conclusion that all powders are washed in the same way.

I wrote about it above - it is not bad, but firstly, it has a little chemical smell on my nose, it is more suitable for washing, and secondly - if it is not consumed too quickly, then it cakes, because it is not granules but beggars ordinary. And so - yes, cheap and decent. Especially salt. Two kilos is two times cheaper than Kolgonitovskaya. But the same trouble - it is small, if the flow rate is low, then it is caked in the package.

Well, if you sniff all the powders, I think they won't smell like food, they all consist of phosphates, silicates, carbonates, etc. The smell is like any powder for PMM. The dishes are clean and odorless, the powder does not contain chlorine and, thanks to enzymes, washes at low temperatures. All the dishes are shiny - much better. I buy salt when it ends. Powder in a package weighing 1 kg, poured into a container from under the Finish. I will observe

Yeah, I also poured it, in the end there were a lot of lumps left in the jar, and even when falling asleep it was clear that it was sticking together (and you can't get away from the kitchen humidity). But I was washing decently - I won't argue here.

Lovers of Domol, tell me .. I bought another pack of powder in DC and now I am at a loss .. The powder from the previous pack smelled nice, but this one is pinging. Washes like the same and the packaging is the same ..
Domol seems to be sold only in DCs, is it really profitable to forge such a rare powder?

Domol lovers, tell me .. I bought another pack of powder in DC and now I am at a loss .. The powder from the previous pack smelled nice, but this one pinging How do you understand it, a fake? Washes like the same and the packaging is the same ..
Domol seems to be sold only in DCs, is it really profitable to forge such a rare powder?

Hardly a fake. Or the service life (which is less likely, since Watson is strict with this), or a violation of the sealing of the package during transportation, IMHO ...
Anyway, I would advise to visit this store again with this package of powder ...

It may be worth going to the store, but the old powder is over, there is nothing to show for comparison.However, I will go anyway ..

Girls, someone will respond ... Now I have laid the dishes, and the machine indicated that I needed to add salt. The salt poured out all when I turned on the machine for the first time. It was a week ago. I have nowhere to buy salt tomorrow. Will buy it only on Tuesday. My husband said turn it on without salt. I turned it on at my own peril and risk, and now I'm worried that the machine does not deteriorate. Do you think it is not harmful for her to work without salt once? The husband reassures, says that he will not spoil at once. And another question. Just don't laugh (I only use the machine for a week). There were 2 tablets to the machine. They are in cellophane. Open them or put them directly in cellophane?

I have never used pills, I’m also a beginner, but I think the cellophane still needs to be removed

Girls with pills that come with the car do not need to remove cellophane.
I have a typewriter for a month and I fell asleep only once. I use PMM every day.
And I also read somewhere that instead of a desiccant, pour a mixture: for 0.5 liters. water 2 tbsp. tablespoons of citric acid. Who thinks what about this. I cleaned the washing machine with citric acid.

[Esfir]

I turned it on at my own peril and risk, and now I'm worried that the machine does not deteriorate. Do you think it is not harmful for her to work without salt once?

Esfir , do not worry. And one, and two, and three ... nothing will happen !!! The only strange thing is that your salt was used up so quickly. How much did you set the salt regulator?

Do not remove cellophane from tablets !!!!!!

lenok2_zp, nadinadi, Omela - girls THANK YOU for responding.
Mistletochka, I called the water utility and they told me how hard our water is. According to the scale that goes with the machine, we have the hardest water. : oSo we put the biggest one. Salt immediately poured the entire pack of 1 kg. Although when I was buying salt, the seller said that this would be enough for half a year. Therefore I am confused. Something is probably not right here. Either the water utility told me the wrong thing, that's why she ate all the salt, or the seller doesn't know himself.
girls, I understood correctly that these tablets already contain salt. I would have to hold out tomorrow day, otherwise a lot of cooking tomorrow and reluctance to wash with my hands.

[Esfir]

I correctly understood that these tablets already contain salt.

Esfir , that's right, salt is included!

Although when I was buying salt, the seller said that this would be enough for half a year.

Nuuuu, half a year is certainly too much, but 2 months should definitely be enough. I did not call the water utility, I set it to 2 (out of 6), although our water is also hard. I looked at the quality of the sink - there were no stains on the dishes. Try to reduce the dispenser.

I would have to hold out tomorrow day, otherwise a lot of cooking tomorrow and reluctance to wash with my hands.

Do not worry so much. I used to work for three days without salt.

There were 2 tablets to the machine. They are in cellophane. Open them or put them directly in cellophane?

You don't need to use them at all. Buy separate products. Of course, nothing threatens the ion exchanger at a time, and I would not use more without salt

lenok2_zp, nadinadi, Omela - girls THANK YOU for responding.
Either the water utility told me the wrong thing, that's why she ate all the salt, or the seller doesn't know himself.
girls, I understood correctly that these tablets already contain salt. I would have to hold out tomorrow day, otherwise a lot of cooking tomorrow and reluctance to wash with my hands.

The amount of salt is different depending on the hardness of the water / salt setting.
In pills, it is there but it is not enough. Tablets are designed for the average water hardness in Europe

I have enough for 1.5 months, and where to look at the stiffness regulator, I have not seen something like that .. I have a Kaiser

and I keep taking off the ocelophane from the pills, but what is not needed? .. And I am suffering all the time

and I keep taking off the ocelophane from the pills, but what is not needed? .. And I am suffering all the time

there are tablets in a soluble shell (for example, forsage and one of the somats, like ...). There are - insoluble, you need to look at the packaging, what exactly is written there. I took it in soluble all the time - it's really more convenient. But in the end, I still switched to powder + salt + rinse))

... Ah .. understandable, otherwise I think I missed something .. Yes, it also seems to me that 3 by themselves, and not in one and cheaper and more convenient

Good evening to everyone, May friends! I was looking for a topic where to ask, I found it more or less alive. Listen people! I have a blinking light on the softener, it’s already filled in, and the machine swears anyway, the rinse aid does not go out. typewriter no month. Mora (Slovenia) 45 cm. Shoy-ta maybe?

shl. I apologize if the question is not to the court or was already ...

[IRR]

IRR , if the rinse aid is thick, then it clogs the hole when pouring and it turns out that it is poured a little. Try to pour a syringe without a needle into the hole.

shl. Hope you got the right hole! Hde a winking smiley !!! And there is no kiss

Listen people! I have a blinking light on the softener, it’s already filled in, and the machine still swears, the rinse aid doesn’t go out. typewriter no month. Mora (Slovenia) 45 cm. Shoy-ta maybe?

The instructions for my PMM say that the lack of salt indicator may light up after filling the salt container and this is a normal situation. After several washes, the indicator goes out. This, of course, is about a different indicator, but maybe in your case, after a couple of washes, the rinse aid indicator will stop flashing.

And I don’t remember Schaub Irunchyk washing her new dishwasher! So she is naughty!

[IRR]

And I don’t remember, Schaub Irunchyk was washing her new dishwasher! So she is naughty!

That's where the truth is buried! Or washed? Then look what you drank, is it a rinse aid?
... and what does she fill there in that case?
IRR, at least answer me! Extinguished - not extinguished? We're worried!

Oh, but on the contrary, the button stopped lighting up. The salt ignites, but the mouthwash does not. I used to light up after 3 weeks, now it doesn't light up for a month or more ...

[IRR]

I will ask everyone here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=31278.70
IRR
jellied photo holes (there is only a hole in a donut, in pants and in a head) to the studio!

Domol lovers, tell me .. I bought another pack of powder in DC and now I am at a loss .. The powder from the previous pack smelled nice, but this one pinging How do you understand it, a fake? Washes like the same and the packaging is the same ..
Domol seems to be sold only in DCs, is it really profitable to forge such a rare powder?

Indeed, Domol's smell has changed. But this is the smell of the Soviet laundry detergent "Lotos"! And washes as before

Comrades, did anyone use bravix? In the duck, the rinses are somehow gloomy, I didn't really like the top house, I don't have an iplon, and I don't want the finish line. Here is an inexpensive bravix, it seems, in terms of composition - not scary, on request - Germany ... Nobody tried them, no? They also have powder in packs of 2 kg.

And we have completely disappeared "Lyon" liquid. All promised, promised to bring to order, and nothing .. They say there are no bases at the bases. I had to buy the same company, but the Charm powder. Boom to try.

Indeed, Domol's smell has changed. But this is the smell of the Soviet laundry detergent "Lotos"! And washes as before

The smell has changed. And it went up a little. Washes as well as before. I remain a "fan" of Domol.

The smell just changed, it became very unpleasant I have one more unopened pack, I'm afraid the smell is the same

Omela, this gel appeared

[Tanyusha]

Omela, this gel appeared

Tanyusha , and where can you buy it? My powder, there seems to be no smell, but I don't like how it washes. I used to pour 1 \ 2h. and everything was laundered, and nav 1h. l. I put it in and the dirt remains.

Food for thought! Gel for PMM. It's not secret at all!

Why is it not advisable to wash in PMM using tablets or powder, teflon-coated dishes, fine glass objects, aluminum dishes? The fact is that both tablets and powder - ABRASIVES - there is a kind of "fine grinding" of everything that comes to hand. In rez-those - bluish-whitish stains on thin glasses - skins!
Because of this, aluminum products darken - the "efforts" of detergents remove a thin film of aluminum oxide - everything turns black! The trouble. But it is not all that bad!!! Since the end of summer appeared on the shelves (I live in Ukraine) (bought in METRO) a double package of Somat Multi-Perfect Gel
Is a song! What the doctor ordered! It looks like a "Sheridan" - two branches: with a colorless component and blue-blue.
It is squeezed out in portions into the PMM in the same place where we put the tablet / powder. Very economical, and the result is incomparable! Without any fear, my saucepans from the multicooker and the details of the meat grinder and the aluminum garlic press and everything, everything, everything.
Sumptuously!
Look in your shops in the city and you will not regret it! It is worth (if translated into cu) a single pack of 700 ml - about 11 cu. e., double in METRO - about 16 cu. e. Expensive, but worth it, IMHO. It takes a month and a half or two, depending on how often you wash it - it is stated on it (packaging) that it is 28x. Somewhere like that. For less delicate dishes, I continue to use powder. Sometimes pills. Whoa!

[ShurShurych]

ShurShurych
Thanks for the information! I have never seen such happiness, but now I will seek.
There is one more disadvantage of washing with powder; even if the powder is superfood, at the very beginning of washing it still does not dissolve in the aqueous medium and the water whirls it in the dishwasher like sand. For polished dishes, this is just a disaster. Not so long ago I bought a pan Gourmet - Elite, I washed it in the dishwasher only once and after washing I saw a small dent on the polished lid, as if from a blow with a fine grain of sand. When loading it was not, I handle the dishes very carefully, I laid them steadily. I came to the conclusion that this is from the powder. Now I'm looking everywhere for dish gel, but we don't seem to have it.

[Girls!]

Girls! Before Somat-gel, I actively used Frosh, a lemon balm for washing dishes. The main thing is to foam a little. Just a couple of drops are enough. But I washed with it ONLY not too greasy dishes. Mainly multicooker pots, teflon pans, etc. to avoid solidification of unbroken fat in the PMM drain system. That is, if you are careful, everything is possible.

[Shurshurych]

Shurshurych, I use Domolom, after it I somehow took Somat-gel, which flows from two tubes, so I don’t understand it, firstly, the smell is strong, and secondly - the tea plaque does not wash off the cups, but how are you?

I also pour dishwashing detergent, half a teaspoon, it does not foam much. The filter became cleaner, before, until I realized, the bloom of non-split fat on the filter had to be washed off manually under the tap.