Choosing a dishwasher

[mowgli]

mowgli, about salt it is necessary to look in the instructions. The salt is adjusted by pressing certain buttons.

Olya, the fact of the matter is that my instructions do not say at all how it is regulated. I memorized this instruction both in the tail and in the mane. Thank you, even if you suggested where this salt is regulated at all. It remains to find out how.



Maybe someone has such a model DSFS 1530 BEKO

[mowgli]

mowgli, I, too, on the Kandy desktop is not regulated or did not write how. I even wrote in their support, called, there is no information. I calmed down, my pills, I think that everything is enough in this case. The dishes are squeaky and transparent. What else does?. In the past Indesite, salt was regulated, but it didn't help me. Anyway, soap tablets. So I don't bother anymore.

Olga, white streaks on the glass kill and on plastic

[mowgli]

mowgli, honestly, I read all the topics on dishwashers here. I tried different powders, rinses. My personal conclusion after using two different dishwashers (budget Indesit and Kandy). With our water, nothing helps. As, in some topic, the Scrolls wrote, after washing and drying the panties with a stake they stand. In reality, rinses do not help much either. So that's it. I use pills + minimum rinse + maximum salt. Of the entire offered assortment for price and quality, I like these

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These are also good ones, but they are more expensive.

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There is not much difference in the quality of washing, but the first with lemon scent, the second practically do not smell.
And in the 45 cm typewriter of the floor Indesit and in the table Kandy, I often wash 1/2 of the tablet. If it is heavily soiled, for example, a bowl from aero grill, then mine with a whole tablet. Or when I shove it in a non-puffy, also one pill, so that it rinses out.
So, in the old floor, I noticed how I clicked the salt in the dispenser, so the stains were immediately whitish. Poured salt, everything is in order. In Kandy I follow the salt better, it is more accessible to me now, no need to bend over. So, in Kandy I have such a small ambush. Salt is not regulated. I studied the instructions with passion, wrote, called the hotline in Kandy, and they did not find a salt regulator for me. And I started a problem, again whitish stains began to appear. In this case, the salt is in place, poured. I began to think, changed the cheaper pills, I'm too lazy to look for the name, so I don't write it, but they did not suit me. I had the same story as with Somat powder. From the beginning everything is fine, and then you just don't know how to get rid of whitish stains. After switching to the usual pills, Kline felt better, but not quite. All this time I regularly looked into the compartment with salt and noticed that the salt was not used very well. Then I began to write to everyone, call to increase the salt consumption and did not help me in any way. And I began to act simply, I began to stir the salt in the container of the machine with the handle of a wooden spoon. This helped, the salt consumption went up, increased. And the whitish stains on the dishes disappeared. So I live, I mix salt every 2 weeks. Well, I always take my pills, I don't look in the direction of powders. I changed the salt, since I take the simplest salt, not expensive, I changed it to Finish, I thought maybe I bought the wrong salt, but I come to the conclusion that my budget Kandy with unregulated salt does not give out enough of this salt when washing, and mixing salt in a container gives desired effect. The warranty has already expired, I will not call the master. While it works, let it work. God forbid it breaks - I will change the typewriter.
But, my conclusion, with poor water, lack of salt gives whitish stains on the dishes. There you can still play around with the rinse aid settings, I still pour it and keep it at a minimum, without it it's worse, even when washing with tablets.

Thank you for writing. I, too, do not use salt ey at all and it annoys me. But I found a salt regulator, but I don't understand how to turn it. Now I'll keep track of the salt consumption. Someone in the internet wrote that he was pouring a cookery. And everything is fine too. I don't know if it's possible. I doubt it.



And I like the feri in the cellophane. In general, it washes everything like a bomb. But you can't tell, they are liquid

[Candy]

in Kandy I have such a small ambush. Salt is not regulated.

I have Candy CDP 4709-07 45 cm, hardness regulator above the container with rinse aid, but apparently this does not affect the consumption of salt in any way, only the intake of rinse aid, salt seems to be consumed by itself.

But I found a salt regulator, but I don't understand how to turn it

and where is he?
girls - if the indicator is red, then there is not enough salt?

feri in cellophane.

on a note

Ira is where she showed me Bijou on the wall. But the asterisk does not spin and the Bijou has a red middle and has a notch so that it can be turned, but I do not.
Kandy is very similar to my ex Kaiser. So there the salt regulator was right there where you put salt. There is a little blue robe and it was spinning.



And the arrow was straightforward.



Yes, if the indicator is on, then you need to add salt

[Irsha]

Irsha, the master taught me about salt, unscrew the lid and poke your finger, if there is no salt or there is not enough salt at the bottom, then you can safely pour it. Indicators sometimes do not work correctly. Perhaps not all, but on the budget.
Candy AAA class cdcf 6 desktop, I have one.

[Olga]

Olga,

But I recently poured salt and noticed - that there is in the hole where to pour salt - the tube is white = there is such a black stick on the side inside, at the end of the stick like a tiny * flag * and it turns right-left-right = maybe there is a regulator salt intake

Well, quickly I ran out of 1.5 kg of salt, a month has not passed

Yes, Ira is the salt regulator. I bought salt in my Kaiser car every 1.5-2 months.



Only I had this blue checkbox

[Natalia]

Natalia, and in which direction should it be turned to reduce salt consumption?

sort of was to the left, when I noticed him, I turned right

the instructions are not about him or I did not realize

Ira put it in the middle because it was written on the aquarists' forum that we have medium hard water.
Someone told me that it was there to look. Like they look at this indicator for their fish

[Natasha]

Natasha, if I ran out of salt so quickly, then I correctly checked the box to the right - our water is soft.
It is necessary, for sure, the aquarists, in the store, ask, maybe they know.

Thank you for your consultation.

It's my pleasure. I myself am such a dunno I sit

[mowgli]

mowgli, people say that the settings are made using the delay start button. Described in instructions.
For some built-in model, the algorithm is as follows - turn on the machine, simultaneously press the "P" and "watch" buttons, then "P" twice and then set the desired regeneration level "r" with the watch.
And what is in the wall seems to be turning with a screwdriver.

I will not say much in more detail, because everything is hearsay, I don't have such a car.

Lena, thanks for your concern. I have an old model. There is no delay start button. I even have a pick that it's all over, no. And there is no thread for a screwdriver either. So I took off the star cap and put it on 3. I think maybe then the hole becomes somehow bigger. I'll also ask my son to look.

I'm tired of pulling out cups not washed from a light coffee bloom from the PMM, put them on a short sink (I collected dishes from 3 non-washers) without powder, but with a chlorine tablet = finally, the dishes are clean and dry.

Probably, you can't wash with chlorine-containing products, but the result is pleasing

from light coffee bloom

this heavy pollution is considered.Next, you need to wash on a reinforced program. So is the plaque from tea.
Also, plaque does not remain on all dishes. Old Soviet cups don't have it. But modern cups are covered with bloom

Ira, I add a little lemon to the powder to wash something that is poorly washed - it helps. But here's what I understood when I arrived in Minsk: in our village the water is quite normal, but here the tap water is tin, with Fae, hands, dishes are poorly washed with hot water - oh Oh, Hmmm here, my mother has a husband, no

Next, you need to wash on a reinforced program.

Soap and on intensive, the plaque from the coffee remained, the cups are both Soviet and current.
And the dishes were often damp.
And yet, can I have chlorine? Well, maybe not a pill, but a quarter, ever?

Girls, I have water at my dacha, well, full g .... you will wash it clean, take it out all in the bloom. Only citric acid saved
And then my husband accidentally grabbed a 7/1 agent in a water-soluble shell on Lenta (which is also very good for me) with a ribbon logo. And grit, inexpensive. I haven't seen such clean dishes for 4 years. Even the Calgonit tabla was not saved ... but here, I'm just not overjoyed! I already forgot about the lemon.
Maybe someone wrote about them above. Sorry, I haven't looked far. The topic just caught my eye. I decided to share a recent discovery Our water is mega-hard, lime

And then my husband accidentally grabbed a 7/1 agent in a water-soluble shell on Lenta (which is also very good for me) with a ribbon logo. And grit, inexpensive. I have not seen such clean dishes for 4 years.

Yeah, I've been advertising it everywhere for four years. But it was even better before - I recently dug up a box in the bins, still in an insoluble shell, so the difference was noticeable.

The last time I took a couple of packs of 60 tablets, 400 rubles each, I also think that it is not too expensive for a proven remedy.

But I will immediately slow down the desire to save money again and take the ribbon powder. Bullshit - bullshit to all bullshit.))

But I will immediately slow down the desire to save money again and take the ribbon powder. Bullshit - bullshit to all bullshit.))

but I generally don’t like powder (((it didn’t take root in my house or at my dacha (((
but at home I have Bosch, and the water is normal, there are any means of norms ... but at the dacha, it's just a disaster (((but these ones made me happy. I told my husband to buy boxes of 10 ... let them lie. Alas, we often have goods deteriorate over time ... but it turns out that ... I'm already late for high-quality

no one talks about chlorine

found elsewhere - do not use chlorine-containing detergents, otherwise the kitchen will smell like chlorine; - as if this is the only minus of chlorine in pm

and the kitchen does not smell like chlorine, and if it does smell a little. then it's not scary

okay, maybe someone else is smart and will enlighten * the chlorine question *

I liked one post: Mlyn, do not want chemistry in everyday life, rinse the dishes in the ice hole in the river and rub them with sand! Have you ever tried it? Otherwise, they don't want to use a dishwasher or chemicals! And how do you get soda, does it grow on a tree or what? and that's right



here's another:
Chlorine and its compounds are found in many products:
- bleaches - ACE (chlorine bleaches)
- washing machines for dishwashers and hand washing dishes (Prill) -
- disinfectants - Whiteness, Comet (gel or powder with chlorinol), Domestos (very highly concentrated agent, practically "poison" for the respiratory system, cannot be used in everyday life)
- anti-mold products

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and further:

First and foremost, never use conventional hand dishwashing detergents on your appliances. You risk ruining the dishwasher completely and irrevocably. Select products according to the type / class of machine.

- Weakly alkaline products with enzymes. Such products wash dishes perfectly and gently even at 40-50 degrees, they can be used for any type of dishes.
- Products with chlorine in the composition. This component is known to be aggressive and tough, any dirt is washed off quickly and clean. But for fragile, "delicate" dishes, such a tool is categorically not suitable (crystal, porcelain, cupronickel, painted dishes, silver items).
- Products that contain alkaline components + an oxidizing component based on oxygen are suitable for almost any dish. But they have a whitening effect.
- When choosing a gel as a detergent, pay attention to its composition. Look for a product that is free of chlorine bleach, phosphates, EDTA, dyes, and NTA - a highly non-toxic product. The best option is a gel with a pH of 4-5 and biological components in the composition.

Well. figured out - chlorine can be used in PMM

Girls, and my tea and coffee plaque is always washed off, I didn't even think that it could be different
I mainly use the Eco program

Girls, and my tea and coffee plaque is always washed off, I didn't even think that it could be different

In my PMM Beko at 70 degrees was not washed. Now PMM Indesit - the highest temperature, in my opinion, 65 degrees or 60. I don't even remember the plaque from tea and coffee. The funds for the PMM remained the same as in Beko.

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, I have Bosch, all sorts of means, except for the finish
pace on eco 50
and there was never a raid

I wanted to ask if someone has washed off the carbon deposits in the pans? Even fresh ones are almost never washed with me, I'm not talking about old Soviet ones. Popular articles always say what can be washed with a dishwasher. Or is it the temperature? In my Hansa, the maximum is 65 grams.

[VolzhankaD]

VolzhankaD, Nagar, even a very old one washed all over on Indesite. Soaps at high temperatures. Now two Teflon pans, washing with handles. Therefore, I can not say anything about the Kandy desktop.

I wash all the pans by hand, cast iron and steel with an aluminum backing in PMM is impossible

High on Indesite - how much? And how many washes did it take? I also use new Teflon pens at first, but the carbon deposits that form inside and outside were not washed off with a sponge, do not scrub it with an iron one? Spat, began to wash in the dishwasher. It is still badly washed. And after 1.5 years, the non-stick properties are almost over, but I still can't scrape.

[VolzhankaD]

VolzhankaD, I don't remember the temperature, it seems 70. Sold Indesit together with an apartment and a built-in kitchen. Teflon handles only. I take the cheapest pans and change them to new ones after a few years when it starts to burn. I buy without caps, it's cheaper. The lids from the old frying pan fit.

Well, maybe not a pill, but a quarter

Too shy to ask
And what are these chlorine tablets. This is the first time I've heard about this. And what do they look like? where are they bought?

And what are these chlorine tablets.

Before retirement, I worked in the hospital and provided some communal services for my family at home.
And so they are sold, it turns out, quite freely. Probably.
Search for * chlorine tablets *, and a bunch of addresses will be

about such

Well, thank you. Let's take a look.
Didn't even know that such a thing exists in nature

By the way, since we have gone to bleach, so can everyone adored Bose try to pour it into the bunker with the detergent?

True, my tea is fine too. Although I often wash the cups with my hands, I don't have so many of them to provide such dishes for a day or two. But if someone properly "inherits" in the cup, having forgotten in another room and dried the leftovers properly, then yes, then the machine is for such exceptional cases.)) Taki is always washed with an ordinary tablet.

I also use new Teflon handles at first, but the carbon deposits that form inside and outside were not washed off with a sponge, do not scrub it with an iron one?

And where does the soot on the Teflon come from? Outside, yes, I scrub the bottom with iron or some powder.

The boss will probably foam. And foam for PMM is highly undesirable.
My cups, too, have never been left uncleaned. Mine and pills and powders and on different programs, and with different temperatures.

[Galina]

Galina, and what powder do you use? Recently, a yellow coating on the dishes began to appear frequently in me, I really don't know what to do ...

I have soot both inside, from oil, on the walls, and outside, the frying pan is shiny, beautiful, it's a pity to spoil it with scratches on the sides, and soot stains on this surface of Hans with an intensive program 65 does not wash it off. I think a higher temperature may be needed, but there is no possibility.
And the chlorine tablets were sold to us together with the pool, they need to be there every other day for disinfection. I did not even think that they could wash food utensils, it did not even occur to me.

[VolzhankaD]

VolzhankaD, do you have a gas stove, probably? * dawned on * Then yes, the caplets on the walls quickly stick. I once even found them under my fingers during induction. I just forgot already. After that, I taught myself to wash the sides after each cooking.) But I do not wash it with foam sponges (in which one part is too soft and does not scrub anything, and the other is too hard and scuffs to scratches), but with a washcloth a la "piece of fishing net" - there the nodules are scrubbed, but not scratched. And the first one that was discovered just started the tools God gave me I took it off once with my nails and never started it again. Outside, on the sides of Shumanite, the stuck to it is well dissolved. I have all induction non-stick pans, I'm afraid to put them in the dishes because of the pressed-in disk - the machine will wash the aluminum and it may fall off. For the same reasons, I don’t smear the bottom with Shumanite, only steel wool, fine sandpaper or abrasive powder.

I did not even think that they could wash food utensils, it did not even occur to me.

Why not? In the pool, you use them. and you bathe in it.
Chlorine tablets are used in hospitals, for example, for soaking dishes - after washing, the dishes are kept in a chlorine solution. Chlorine is the same everywhere - like a disinfectant.

So there are dishwasher tablets with chlorine. Not for every day. Some steels can rust a little more (be careful with knives, if someone washes) and you don't need to put aluminum (filters from the hood).

I think a higher temperature may be needed, but there is no possibility.

Boil using the old method - have you tried soda ash + silicate glue?

I do not see the need to clean my 30-year-old pans from all sides = I clean the inside with a metal washcloth, cleanly, and the outside does not interfere. although there is, of course, no carbon deposits - only darkening = I also always clean with metal wool

Dishwasher tablets with chlorine are available.

I also looked at what was there.
So I will use my pills sometimes. a quarter for a sink.

Galina, what kind of powder do you use?

The cheapest Belarusian Suprim, and a rinse aid of the same company.
I like how he washes and I don't see the need to overpay for advertising.
I also bought Minel MLTI 5 tablets for stocks at Korona, they sold very cheaply, I read very good reviews about them on our forum. I also like it, I take half a tablet for the sink (I have 45cm). On short programs I use powder, and on long programs (I have 3 hours 5 minutes in my car, I usually turn it on at night with a delay) with tablets

The cheapest Belarusian Suprim, and a rinse aid of the same company.

I also took it, it seems normal, but the stains are yellow all the same on the dishes .. it looks like the water is like that, we have filters and still the electric kettle also turns yellow quickly

we have filters and still the electric kettle also turns yellow quickly

I mean, rusty water? And the machine has been living for a long time and everything is fine with the ion exchanger?

Boil using the old method - have you tried soda ash + silicate glue?

No never. And I don't seem to have such glue. And the dishes that the pans can fit in, too. And in general, laziness, I also clean the old ones inside, but outside the old thick black layer, inherited from my mother-in-law, does not interfere.And teflon ones are beautiful, but they don't rub off the outside with nails or iron floats even immediately after frying. Yes, of course, there is a gas stove, we have an oil and gas region, even gas is being supplied to summer cottages, and oil pumps are working on the outskirts of the city.

The cheapest Belarusian Suprim, and a rinse aid of the same company.
I like how he washes and I don't see the need to overpay for advertising.
I also bought Minel MLTI 5 tablets for stocks at Korona, they sold very cheaply, I read very good reviews about them on our forum. I also like it, I take half a tablet for the sink (I have 45cm). On short programs I use powder, and on long programs (I have 3 hours 5 minutes in my car, I usually turn it on at night with a delay) with tablets

one to one))). by the way, for all the time that I have a dishwasher, the third time all the pills at a discount were caught

but the stains are yellow anyway on the dishes

probably from the water. I have no spots

[Lena]

Lena, we already took water to the sanitary station, we said that the high iron content, everything is within the normal range. But for me, she's just awfully rusty. The machine is not yet 5 years old, Zanussi, everything seems to be working as it should, the salt is set to maximum, I often fall asleep with a new portion. I had such a problem with the yellowing of the plates three years ago, then I kind of switched to Bravix, I don't remember, everything became normal, but now I began to take everything in a row that is in stocks, everything is yellow again, it's just disgusting

by the way, for all the time that I have a dishwasher, the third time all the pills at a discount were caught

Irina, in the Island of Purity, there are often promotions on pills