Choosing a dishwasher

Maybe someone doesn't need soft water? ... Or is it thermonuclear at the Finish? ... I wonder if there are products for soft water with reduced foaming? ...

I will join the questions.
The PMM is still in the apartment and everything works fine, but in a week we will install the kitchen in the house and transport the PMM.
And in the house, the water from the well passes through the purification system and is very soft.
Here in advance I am afraid of "dancing with a tambourine" around the typewriter ((

the water from the well passes through the treatment system and is very soft.
Here in advance I am afraid of "dancing with a tambourine" around the machine

In St. Petersburg, the water is VERY soft, you will be tortured to wash off the soap, but I don't see any problems with the PMM. With a typewriter for almost 12 years. Salt at 1, rinse at 2.

Salt at 1, rinse at 2.

I have these settings now.
Maybe you won't have to change
I scare myself in advance ...
I will unsubscribe how we will connect in a new place.

Scarecrow,

While I do not want to dilute the rinse aid with water, for reasons that it is under warranty and if I have to call the master, he probably will not approve of such actions ... I'm already thinking of calling him all the same and let him see how the water supply and the rinse aid itself are adjusted. On some forums, the technicians themselves write that this also has a place to be.

In St. Petersburg, the water is VERY soft, you will be tortured to wash off the soap, but I don't see any problems with the PMM. With a typewriter for almost 12 years. Salt at 1, rinse at 2.

What means do you use?

What the store sells at the time of purchase. Most often it is Finish or Somat, I also used Sun powder. I don’t notice any differences in the powders, they wash everything normally. I practically don't use pills. Favorite program - AUTO.

Hello, please tell me who has enough rinse aid? I have bravix, it stands at 3 positions out of 6, 0.5 was enough for a month, if you put less, then the dishes are wet. The machine only eats it on the way. Maybe some kind of malfunction. Hardness 3 out of 6, I'm from Moscow.

[llles]

llles, I also have 3. I used to always take "Domolovsky" - a liter bottle is enough for me for 1.5 years, my dishes like when - sometimes once a couple of days, sometimes a couple of times a day. In the summer he disappeared from Watsons (only sold there), I was tormented for a couple of months on pills (it turns out a little expensive), because absolutely all rinsers, of any companies, disappeared from the sale, and somehow I accidentally bought Finish - for two month 300 ml is gone. I tame him and again go to "Domol" - he appeared, finally, bought already

That is, it still depends on the rinse aid too? My dishes every day, sometimes 2 times.

Flax, well, according to my estimates - yes, it is from the rinse aid - but there are many gurus who have had dishwashers for many years, maybe they can tell you something sensible. Only now I saw that you are from another country - you have Domol under some other label goes, in my opinion

I have bravix, it stands at 3 positions out of 6, 0.5 was enough for a month, if you put less, then the dishes are wet. The machine only eats it on the way. Maybe some kind of malfunction. Hardness 3 out of 6, I'm from Moscow.

There was also a bravik, but somehow it was enough for me. in terms of parameters, everything is about the same. Now, in my opinion, a rinse aid of some Ashanov brand (probably the Wedge is ok) is consumed much faster. I also tried to set the rinse aid settings, or rather its consumption, to a lower value, but then I returned everything back. There was a finish - it was spent the longest.

I have these settings now.
Maybe you won't have to change
I scare myself in advance ...
I will unsubscribe how we will connect in a new place.

Finally connected)
Washes a week in a new place. Everything is fine, I didn't have to turn the settings.

I strongly suspect that in our Ukraine, the "Finish" is badlyazed, who in what garazd, I have read more than once that Russian and Ukrainian are two big differences
But we have "Domol"

[Scarlett]

Scarlett, oh, Tanya, don't tease .... when there was an opportunity - I didn't find it from you, I thought to buy it next time .. and now there is no possibility .. But really. that all means need only be tried and selected, including and under the characteristics of PMM and water ...

Anh, we have it only in the "Watsons" chain of stores - there are all kinds of different cosmetics, washing, nowhere else, I looked on the Internet - I did not find it. If you need - I can buy, only how to forward

If you need - I can buy, only how to forward

Tanya .. I'm embarrassed ... honestly ... I hope that soon we can reach you and stock up on everything we need ...

Why do we also have Domol, but for Russia it is called Domax, like this: And this is the first tool that I started using after buying a dishwasher, until I switched to Japanese gel.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, Tan, I haven't seen anything like this in our stores .. if you only look at Internet sites, such as ozone ...

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, hammer in the search engine, they still have pills, salt and rinse aid.

And I used Finish gel, I didn’t like it, now I bought Claro powder in Auchan, very much nothing, it washes dishes well))

I only use gel for Teflon. I take Cleaner tablets for daily washing. If the dishes are not very greasy, and I have them mostly like that, then I use 0.5 tablets per sink. If oily, then a whole pill. But I always have salt and rinse aid.

[An]

I take Cleaner tablets for daily washing. If the dishes are not very greasy, and I have them mostly like that, then I use 0.5 tablets per sink. If oily, then a whole pill. But I always have salt and rinse aid.

Do you exhibit the "3 in 1" program? And then I somehow, in a hurry, a couple of times started a regular sink - the tablet was lying in the middle of the dishes almost intact
An, but don't be embarrassed - if you need to - whistle the current ... I'm just really worried ... a train goes through our city to Moscow, so, if anything, you can agree with the conductors

I bought Somat Gold tablets in Lenta, they went with a 55% discount. I have been using them for a week now. The flight is normal: there is no strong smell from the dishes, even one “harmful” porcelain cup is washed to a shine (when using Faerie capsules, there is always a plaque on it). One thing is that plastic containers dry worse with the same PMM settings.

Do you exhibit the "3 in 1" program?

I have a budget Indesit, I don't need to exhibit anything, there are no such functions.

On the Internet domax is not for sale, I looked and did not find it.

just bought Claro powder in Auchan

Claro used it for a year and a half - she was also very pleased ...

On the Internet domax is not for sale, I looked and did not find it.

I also searched and did not find either ...

Girls, maybe you only have it in some chain stores? Well, here we have "Domol" - only in "Watsons"

Girls, maybe you only have it in some chain stores? Well, here we have "Domol" - only in "Watsons"

Maybe so, but on the websites it was once visible, but now it is written everywhere that it is not available. Apparently gone.

And I did not like this powder at all. Terrible. I didn’t wash anything and at the same time ruined my plastic containers for microwa and freezing. They became muddy and rough. There is an almost complete package. The only thing that can be said to justify the quality is that it can be uncooked.

Why waste money like that ... For plastic containers, as well as for all dishes, I use sun all in 1 tablets and there are no complaints. Washes dishes well. Maybe you should try them?

[Dorya]

DoryaThank you, I have already found a suitable tool that is completely satisfactory. I just share my good and bad experiences.

I bought Cinderella powder. The first time I poured a little - I didn’t like the quality of the wash at all, even the glass remained tattered ((After a while I think not to disappear for him, I poured more and when I opened the door during the washing process, it was water with foam. Is this normal? But at the end of the cycle there was no foam the quality was quite good, and the price was 87 rubles per kg.

it was foamy water. This is normal? But there was no foam at the end of the cycle

Of course it's okay. The process of washing in the PMM, as well as in the washing machine, will be foaming - I have also repeatedly observed this ...

Girls, I tried a lot of powder and only 2 types of tablets, I will not use all the powder anymore, the difference is colossal, the tablets rule !!! Some braviks, others, I'll find the name, write it down, throw out the box, only remember the picture. FOUND - Frau Schmidt. I HAVE NOT Tried OTHERS YET, BUT I WON'T GO ON THE POWDER. TRUTH RINSE RINSING I STILL ADD, AS IT IS, TRUTH AT LEAST SUPPLIED IT

When the car was brought, there was no time to look for funds, I really wanted to start it as soon as possible, in the nearest store there were only powder, salt and finish rinse aid. Now I am tormented, I don't know what to do, after washing, there is a detergent on the dishes - I don’t know the powder or the rinse aid, they have the same smell, that is, the spoons and plates are some kind of soap, about the muddy water at the bottom of the inverted cups. Either it is a rinse aid, or the powder is not washed off to the end. Rinse aid is at a minimum.

[irisska]

irisska,
Pour a lot of powder? Try to reduce the dose. I would also try to slightly increase the rinse aid setting.
And the feeling of soapy is not clear, because the dishes must be dry.

I would also try to slightly increase the rinse aid setting.

I think so too

The dishes are dry only if you immediately open the machine, if the dishes were washed at night and opened in the morning, then they seem to be sweating. And on inverted cups there is still a puddle of muddy water. The plates are dry, but I tried to wet them and I also got the feeling that the soapy residue was washed off it. it seems to me that the rinse aid remains. I pour a little powder, and the rinse aid was set to "2", I put "1", but nothing has changed.

[irisska]

irisska, take a picture of the loading car?

Well, buy tablets instead of powder. I just don't like the finish. They are smelly. I also use Frau Schmidt now. Sometimes a whole pill and sometimes half. Depending on the amount of dishes.

The finish and grade were made of powders. I will not buy any more. But I still pour salt and rinse aid. But the regulator is at a minimum

Hello, all happy owners of PMM. I want to ask you for help, I'm stupid, I can't understand. written when you first pour salt into the container, fill it with 2/3 of the total volume with water. then add approx. 1 kg of salt, if a little water spills out, it's okay. how much water to pour in ml-help

[ega0404]

ega0404, don't bother too much. Pour a couple of mugs and that's enough. The excess will pour out as you pour the salt. What is missing will be poured when washing dishes

[ega0404]

ega0404, I have it written, pour 1 liter and pour salt, then wipe it off.

pour a liter, I have it written like that, and then pour the salt, the water will pour out a little, but it's not scary

many thanks to all who answered

Advise the girls, I got completely confused reading this topic, only this week we will install SIEMENS SN66L081, I don’t know which side to go to it, there was no PPM before, what to buy so that not to discourage the desire to wash in it? So far, I am ready not to save on the first tests. I have nothing in stock that she needs. While there is time, you can order if I don't find it in the store.

First of all, buy salt for PMM and any tablets, for a start they are easier to wash. Usually two tablets are included with the machine. Everything, you can wash the dishes. Then buy rinse aid and detergent powder.But be sure to buy salt for PMM, you need it anyway, you will be washing the dishes with tablets or powder in the future. And don't panic if you don't like something the first time. I don’t know what needs to be done to make the machine wash the dishes very badly. I sometimes wash with the simplest cheap powder "Cinderella" (100 rubles per kg.) And then everything is fine. And three times I completely forgot to pour the powder and then everything was washed, well, or almost everything.

[Natasha]

Natasha, do you have Watsons there? There, as for me, today are the most optimal dishwasher products of the Domol brand. Buy salt, powder, and rinse aid. Read the instructions carefully, pour salt into the desired compartment, add powder and rinse aid where necessary according to the instructions - and go! Everything will definitely work out! I also sometimes wash with pills (it happened when the rinse aid completely disappeared in the whole city). But tablets are more expensive, although the quality of the "washing" is the same. "Finish" - very "vigorous" means - well, for me, in any case, there is a slight smell of chemistry

I also need to look for funds for the PMM. Because we ordered a built-in kitchen and one of these days it will be necessary to buy built-in appliances. How long have I dreamed of PMM

[Scarlett]

Scarlett, Tatyana, thank you very much, I went through the Temka again and found out that Domol is only in Watson, and I traveled half of the city in search of him, just like I didn't go there, both in Epicenter and in other households. stores was….
By the way, in Watson until the end of the month there is a discount on pills, if there is a card. Tablets (12 in 1) 55 pcs for 97.96 UAH, sort of like very good. good price. I bought salt rinse aid, tablets, but I didn't take the powder. Should I take it for a test now?
Even today I bought a test for water to determine the hardness, we have our own well, we need to set the hardness level when we did the water analysis, but I don’t remember anything about the hardness. I’ll play today, just while it’s installed, then everything will be ready for me, we need to move the sewage system and redo the water inlet, it’s just a couple of millimeters that the pipes stick out, the plumbers will come to redo it.

I also need to look for funds for the PMM.

Do you have any hypers? Often they order and brand on their own behalf quite decent detergents and sell them inexpensively. For example, I have been buying tablets from Lenta for several years now, they are German, they wash normally, they cost two hundred and something before, but they were regularly sold at a reduced price of 170 rubles, as I don't know now, because in the summer I filled the locker with them at the first opportunity. Ashan sells, as it were, not the same thing, but under his own name. Etc.
But the powder from Lenta is complete rubbish, don't buy it, people!

From the ubiquitous Somat, Finish or Ariel, but it is more expensive. Vaunted in the subject Domol I bought a few years ago under the name Domax. It was a good powder, no worse than the rest. To say better ... I don't know, maybe Somata is better, only much more expensive.

And while I was using Somat, all the time there was a touch of yellow on white plates, as soon as I changed to Bravix, the problem disappeared, now we only use it