Choosing a dishwasher

Hello girls, so I became the owner of such a wonderful miracle (Siemens SN 66M094), bought a finish, and tablets and salt and rinse aid, after the first wash I took the dishes with wet hands, it was slippery and reduced the rinse aid, everything seems to be fine, but now I noticed it in the frying pan drops that accumulate at the bottom if they dry out (and they dry in my machine) become whitish, what else needs to be fixed? and of course I don't like the smell during washing, chemical strongly = (((Finish always smells like that? or is it all the products smell like that?

Hello girls, so I became the owner of such a wonderful miracle (Siemens SN 66M094), bought a finish, and tablets and salt and rinse aid, after the first wash I took the dishes with wet hands, it was slippery and reduced the rinse aid, everything seems to be fine, but now I noticed it in the frying pan drops that accumulate at the bottom if they dry out (and they dry in my machine) become whitish, what else needs to be fixed? and of course I don't like the smell during washing, chemical strongly = (((Finish always smells like that? or is it all the products smell like that?

Is the salt set correctly? And how much rinse aid?
I have salt according to the instructions in accordance with the data of the water utility, the rinse aid was at 1 at first - there were also smudges, I changed it to 2. Now everything is fine.
About the smell, according to my observations, Japanese products do not smell.

Salt I left the value set at the manufacturer's factory (4 out of 7) at the water utility they did not give accurate information: "medium hard or hard", the rinse aid stood at 5 from the factory after the first wash, the dishes were slippery, reduced to 4x ... now these spots , and they are only on the sockets as dried condensate

Salt I left the value set at the manufacturer's plant (4 out of 7) at the water utility they did not give accurate information: "medium hard or hard", the rinse aid stood at 5 from the factory after the first wash, the dishes were slippery, reduced to 4x ... now these spots , and they are only on the sockets as dried condensate

If they said it was hard, can you try adding more salt?
On the contrary, ours is soft - I have 2 out of 10.

And I bought these pills:
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it seems like there are good reviews about them on the internet
shelves in shops are filled with Finish - it's expensive and angry

and I bought Finish tablets at a price of 9.5 rubles. per piece It seemed to me that it was not expensive, but I’m disappointed, or I just didn’t learn, the dishes are super, but all sorts of pots and pans are strange ...

added salt by one, now the value is 5, tomorrow I'll start see =)

Girls! for whom the PMM CENTURY is not able to regulate the salt, I can’t find where the adjustment is, it’s not in the passport, I read it
our forum, the photo showed where the regulator is located, looked in my PMM VEKO 6831 did not find

And what do they write in the instructions? Take a closer look, it should be about salt regulation. In my dishwasher, the salt is regulated using the buttons on the panel, a certain combination is set. True, I do not have Veko, but in many dishwashers there is a similar principle.

shelves in shops are filled with Finish - it's expensive and angry

Overwhelmed - because Finish is the most disgusting dishwasher detergent When washing, it gives a persistent film on the dishes, which only grows gradually, and it is impossible to wash it off! even by hand. I have not been using a dishwasher for about six months, but there are dishes from which I still cannot remove the film, although I often wash it.
And today I don’t believe in any dishwasher products, even super-duper, I have tried everything - but the film from the dishes is still not completely washed off

And I was just disappointed in the dishwasher
- the car itself costs a lot of money
- you need to search for expensive tablets, which increases the cost of washing dishes, and does not save you from the quality of washing
- the quality of the tablets leaves much to be desired, almost all tablets leave a stable film
- build-up of a large amount of fat in the filters, with which you also need to constantly fight, clean-wash the filters by hand with brushes and products. And even the use of specials. detergents and dishwasher cleaners and high water temperatures do not break down this fat.
- high cost of pills per 1 wash and per month in general
- a constant search for tablets, time, and constantly check the quality of tablets, which are not satisfied with the quality of throw away and again look for new ones, which leads to a waste of funds
- the need to rinse the dishes and cutlery again by hand using the same liquid detergents before using the dishes for food, before pouring food into them, since the dishes are covered with white stains after drying in the dishwasher. It turns out a double dishwashing, a double waste of money and time.
If you put all this together, it is easier, cleaner and more practical, to wash the dishes by hand - and accustom yourself to wash the dishes every time you eat.

Today my dishwasher is like a cabinet for colander and other utility dishes - but all the dishes are clean, without a whitish bloom that is harmful to health. And it takes less money to keep the dishes clean. And not much time - tested in practice!

If I was more serious about choosing a dishwasher, I would look more closely for information by the quality of dishwashing, the choice of detergent tablets, the care of the dishwasher itself, its filters, and so on - I would never buy a dishwasher.
I was flattered by the very idea of ​​a "dishwasher" in the house! Now it contains hand-washed plastic dishes! This is my most expensive storage cabinet))
And yes, I have a Bosch car! And I already know several people on the forum who refused to wash dishes in the dishwasher, for the same reasons)

This is my personal opinion And do not throw slippers at me, my opinion will not change from this

This is my personal opinion And do not throw slippers at me, my opinion will not change from this

Cool phrase

Girls! for whom the PMM CENTURY does not know how to regulate the salt, I can not find where the regulation is located, in the passport there is

I have a different model, but maybe some advice will suit you. Hold down the program selection button "P", while holding it, press and release the ON button of the dishwasher, hold the "P" button for a couple of seconds and most likely you will see the inscription "r3" on the screen, then set the desired number with the timer button. Set - turn off the dishwasher, I must remember the settings.

It is a pity, of course, that a car that should please and make life easier only upsets and does not work out the invested funds. What is there to throw slippers on, only upsets.
- I once bought the cheapest dishwasher I could find - $ 365, Zanussi.
- there is almost no fat in the filters, once a month there is something for me, quite insignificant, just for prevention.
- I have been using the same pills for several years. One tablet costs ... in short: $ 5 box of 60 pieces. I use half a tablet when washing. That is, with a daily wash, $ 2.5 per month, a pack of salt $ 2, and a rinse aid.
- well, I scrutinize my washed dishes - I don’t understand what kind of film people write about ...
- began to cook a lot in the kitchen and with pleasure, because after creativity you don't have to plow over a mountain of dirty dishes.
Very, very much a dishwasher.

- well, I scrutinize my washed dishes - I don’t understand what kind of film people write about ...
- began to cook a lot in the kitchen and with pleasure, because after creativity you don't have to plow over a mountain of dirty dishes.
Very, very much a dishwasher.

+ a lot
It seems to me that liquid hand cleaners tend to wash off worse.

Having adjusted all the settings, choosing the means - I am happy about the washed dishes, there is no plaque. I remember washing by hand, as if it was in a past life.

how much powder should be poured into the compartment

how much powder should be poured into the compartment for one full load? who adjusted how, tell me pliz

how to adjust, read the instructions and experiment - it depends on the hardness of the water, the quality of the rinse aid, etc. The amount of powder depends on the contamination of the dishes, I wash it in a quick wash and put less than the lowest mark - it's enough for me - everything is clean and the pots are saved. I say again, read the instructions about the settings.

Yes? Who else refused? I don't know such people in my environment yet and have not seen a raid ..

Yes? Who else refused? I do not know such people in my environment yet and have not seen a raid ..

what are you talking about?

what are you talking about?

about the fact that Tanya gave up PMM

I use these pills for PMM

I used to drag phosphate-free and non-smelling ones from abroad, then somehow abruptly they ended and I bought these.
and I also cut the pill into 2 parts, economical, yeah

[I'm Julia]

I'm Julia And I use them.

And today I don’t believe in any dishwasher products, even super-duper, I have tried everything - but the film from the dishes is still not completely washed off

And I was just disappointed in the dishwasher

but I just thought of buying pmm: - \ I am in very deep thoughts, do I need it or not

really needed

really needed

I join! I really need it.

[izvarina.d, Julia V]

izvarina.d, Julia Vthanks for the support!

I had different washing results, but I never regretted buying a dishwasher, because a bad result is quite rare and largely depended on the quality of the powder and the condition of the filter (cleaned from fat). And there are immeasurably more sinks with excellent results!

but I just thought of buying pmm: - \ I am in very deep thoughts, do I need it or not

it is clear that subjective opinion is very necessary. The only thing I regretted was that they bought a narrow typewriter. We thought it was enough for three. And there the fourth was organized. And now the volume of the car is sorely lacking

it is clear that subjective opinion is very necessary. The only thing I regretted was that they bought a narrow typewriter. We thought it was enough for three. And there the fourth was organized. And now the volume of the car is sorely lacking

Thanks to these reviews, we bought a full-size one. And sometimes you even have to turn it on a couple of times a day.

How good that you can consult with someone! My friends and acquaintances, no one has a PMM, and they will hardly understand me: nea: And there are so many like-minded people here

[love-apple]

love-apple you know, the fact that none of your friends and acquaintances support you does not mean that they are normal .............. .... every woman who respects herself and appreciates her work around the house, just dreams of a dishwasher, although I have it for 5 years, she never regretted that she bought, how can you regret such a find and help out ?? I don’t understand ...... I’m just obsessed with technology and I have a lot of it, the most important thing is that I choose the whole technique, and I buy only myself: crazy: I don’t trust anyone in this business ........ ............ the husband does not understand in it, all the time he asks, what kind of light there is lit up ....... like felts, by God ...............

I immediately bought a full-size one and never wanted a narrow one, at first, when there were three of us in a two-room apartment, and then when the fourth package appeared in our family, and even moved to a large apartment, then I bought what I wanted ... ............ .

So do not listen to your acquaintances who do not understand what it is for, you yourself secretly want it, but there will be an opportunity to run and buy

[Svetik]

Svetik +100500 I regret only one thing with the equipment: why did I shuffle around and didn't buy it before Soon a year will pass from the PMM installation, I will write an economic report

All right, now I will definitely buy it! I, too, am obsessed with technology - this is my dad, He bakes bread in a bread maker. and erases. And the husband does not understand anything: - \ But at least he already resists less, but before he had the main argument - I have not seen this from anyone ??? We are going to order a kitchen, so we need to decide which appliances will be built-in.

Built-in appliances will be more expensive - definitely, when I chose, I also walked and looked ....... the most important thing is that I saw which cars were ugly at first, I took myself a white one, which was freestanding, like all the appliances in the kitchen ... ..... I did not dare to sew it up, so see for yourself, of course, but the fact that my husband no longer rests ... this is already a STEP ...... press on him

I have a built-in one, located immediately to the right of the sink, it is convenient to put dishes in it. And on top in the wall cabinet there is a drying rack for dishes, so it is convenient to take out and lay out immediately.

I can only do it on the left. but I think this is no longer such a problem. And I also want a hob surface with two burners: secret: Sprsila from my husband, maybe we can put one like this? How is it two-four

I can only do it on the left. but I think this is no longer such a problem

absolutely. I'm just on the left

They built it in, hid it under the countertop, the work surface was still small for me ........ I put a combine there right away, the bread maker and there really isn't enough space, I want it like my godfather's ..... 43 squares kitchen, I don't want to walk, ride a horse, she really has her own house, but ............... an idiot's dream .......... little is little

I also live in a house from 1900 (y) and the kitchen was just a porch converted 5 sq. m. And they had an AGV, a gas water heater, a sink, a table, a bathtub, a washing machine and so on, little things: girl_haha: Then we rebuilt everything and now I have 15 sq. m. m. I think this kitchen is great! But they attached to what was therefore not a very convenient arrangement of doors, windows, a gas boiler. So I think how to put it so that it is beautiful and convenient

... the most important thing is that I choose the whole technique, and I buy only myself: crazy: I don’t trust anyone in this business .................... the husband does not understand in it, all the time he asks, what kind of light there is lit up ....... like felts, by God ...............

I have a girlfriend. She also chooses all the technique herself and controls it herself. The husband does not interfere.
Recently I told me this story: there was a lot of work and I had to sit at the computer all evenings at home. I asked my husband to turn on the dishwasher. In the morning I took out the dishes, everything is clean. The next day again. This went on for a week. Then I went to turn it on myself, took out the powder, and there was a little bit of it at the bottom. I asked my husband, he said, "why didn't you tell me that the powder is running out?" And he was so surprised ... and said: "What kind of powder? Did you have to pour some kind of powder there?"

How good that you can consult with someone! My friends and acquaintances, no one has a PMM, and they hardly understand me: nea: And there are so many like-minded people here

Well, that's why they won't understand that no one has.

Off-topic, of course, discussion, but I'm also behind the dishwasher. It's good not to think about washing dishes when you are busy above your head. And if, like mine, only cold water. then washing with hands must be warmed, washed in a basin, rinsed several times. And don't tell me about titanium, technically it won't work. This is how everything was planned and carried out. And the voltage in the networks (due to the cold weather) is such that the microwave does not pull in the evening.
In the evening, PMM does not pull, but I turn it on during the day. But, he ran home, opened the slow cooker, ate, put the dishes and ran away on business. And when the guests ... he saw them off and no need to rush to wash everything. Made up and resting.
I did not regret a single minute about the purchase. I regret that I did not persuade my husband earlier. And yes, if possible, take a full-size one. I just barely squeezed in 45 cm.

I've also appreciated my PM - real saving of time and nerves.we already have a family of 5 people and a narrow car (they couldn't fit a big one, so we had to rebuild the whole kitchen) and one sink is enough. BUT to begin with, I had to tinker a lot to sort it out and find an option for a satisfactory washing - and there was dirt and smudges and the dishes did not fit, etc. Now I am very happy and no longer expect a miracle from her, I know that cups where milk was boiled does not wash, burnt food too, so I calmly pass them manually. And so everyone is happy that there is such an assistant. if there is a place definitely full-sized!

Yes, exactly, each car needs its own approach, you look at how you washed it, what is needed for this ...
At the very beginning I was bewildered how, after drying on the pans, there was some water ... well, I think what the hell is this, and then I read on the forum that this is normal and calmed down ... now, when I call, I pour salt, well, powder and rinse by itself ... and all the way
By the way, someone told me that Amveevsky powder is better, I can say that it is safer or something, and that you can not pour rinse aid finally ........ not a fig .......... .... my typewriter started to swear and give out the same dishes, respectively, not washed, and especially cups with bloom ... well, I think everything ... kapets ...... they wash everything, but this bastard is not .................... and began to add (without listening to anyone already what I needed) a complete set, powder + rinse aid and everything returned to normal, by the way, this powder washes well pots

In general, comparison and again comparison, you need to fill your hand

I, Admin understand, mostly wash the dishes myself, but I don't regret having a dishwasher. I consider her to be my assistant in those moments when I got sick, and not only do I need to cook food in this state, but then wash the dishes, then when there is no time and still, when there is no hot water, recently there was no hot water since summer, they turned on along with the heating , the house is cool and you need to wash the dishes with cold water, so the assistant helps out.

I, Admin understand, mostly wash the dishes myself, but I don't regret having a dishwasher. I consider her to be my assistant in those moments when I got sick, and not only to cook food in this state, but then wash the dishes, then when there is no time and still, when there is no hot water, recently the hot water has not been turned on since the summer, along with the heating , the house is cool and you need to wash the dishes with cold water, so the assistant helps out.

Yes, exactly, when there is no hot water - it's just a disaster, you can wash dishes in a dishwasher, wash with a washing machine - it's just a thrill ........ I go around in cold water and immediately snot flows, I don't want to get sick ... .............

I also noticed how much water is wasted when you wash it with your hands: oA our water is heated by a gas boiler and it also consumes a lot of gas. We are now saving gas because if the consumption is more than 2500 cubic meters per year, it will be much more expensive. and they will recalculate at this price all the gas for the year and: girl_cray: you will have to pay extra.

I have a girlfriend. She also chooses all the technique herself and controls it herself. The husband does not interfere.
Recently I told me this story: there was a lot of work and I had to sit at the computer all evenings at home. I asked my husband to turn on the dishwasher. In the morning I took out the dishes, everything is clean. The next day again. This went on for a week. Then I went to turn it on myself, took out the powder, and there was a little bit of it at the bottom. I asked my husband, he said, "why didn't you tell me that the powder is running out?" And he was so surprised ... and said: "What kind of powder? Did you have to pour some kind of powder there?"

What's this! I am in the maternity hospital on preservation (I barely proved to the doctors that it is not my contractions, but my kidneys), my husband comes to visit me (I’m on a dropper) and says Why didn’t I wash the dishes ?! (and laughs, he knows the reaction to this) The girls-neighbors are in shock, their eyes, I look, are rolling out. The husband left, and they - He is such a tyrant! how do you live with him? I had to explain that he was talking about the PMM. When I was leaving because of pain, I forgot to press the Start button.
And I choose everything myself (except for the boiler and TV) - I know better what I need. The husband understands this perfectly and does not climb. Only from New mail brings

I have been using the Boshik dishwasher for 6 years!
And I conscientiously learned the quality of detergents, ran after high-quality tablets, selected the washing modes, and so on ... six years is enough to study the instructions, modes, powders, salt and other attributes of the structure of the machine and the quality of detergents
And at first I even admired how I did without a dishwasher for so long!

But, in the end, I got tired of this occupation, and the quality of the washing, the dishes after drying in smudges, white stains began to irritate. This is especially noticeable on dark dishes and transparent glass!
If so, then you need to rewash the dishes with water with detergents - which anyway leads to an increase in water consumption, detergent consumption, extra time, and nerves! And all the same, the film is not washed off on all dishes! Even if you turn on the Rinse mode additionally, which increases the water consumption, but does not give the desired effect.
And to all - all this film-plaque is in the body, along with food!

Yes, it is convenient to wash large and greasy pots, baking trays, pans, because not with your hands. But then all this fat needs to be removed from the dishwasher filters, where the fat, combining with powders, is converted into muck and clogs the filters completely. This means that once a month you need to rinse and clean with other caustic agents, brushes the filters, rinse with clean water (which increases the additional water consumption by a lot!) And so on ... This is called: from what they left - to that and returned!

Now I have no such problems! For half a year (if not more) I have not used a dishwasher!
There are dishwashing detergents and dishwashing detergents for pots and pans.
I found time to wash the dishes immediately after eating. When you wash it right away, the process is easy and quick.
And if you carefully approach this process, then water can be used sparingly, more than 6-10 liters for a closed cycle in a dishwasher, but enough to get clean dishes, which is much more important than the indelible film on the dishes that we eat with food.
And if you add up the consumption of water and means for washing in the dishwasher and by hand, then now I am in greater advantage. And if you add time for manual labor, you get the same thing.
Only clean dishes are beneficial!

Maybe it's just me so fussy Let it be so ... I am more pleased with the cleanliness of the dishes
Everything ... spoke and explained ... went, I will no longer embarrass the peace in the topic

Oh how !! She gagged everyone in the belt. Well done Admin! Someone after that once again began to recalculate the benefit-benefit, and someone thought: "Well, let her wash, not me." I have a PM, a desktop one. I like it, yes. But sometimes I wash it with my hands because ... well, I love this business. I can't look at the pile of dishes in the sink, and no one except me puts it in the PM. If after dinner and dishes a little, then only with your hands, and if a lot then: Where is my assistant?

I like to wash dishes, and to the point of manic cleanliness, but there will never be enough time for this, since I have other hobbies that I like to do much more than washing dishes - there are so many interesting things in the world that are better the main let my PMMochka wash a lot of dishes!
And I have no streaks or films, the dishes sparkle, and nothing gets clogged with grease, since I remove it from the dishes first.
My Domol powder is mainly on the program for children - 70 ° C, it comes with a preliminary wash with warm water, not cold, and with an additional rinse.

I didn't like the Somat gel - that's a disgusting non-washable film from it, I already wrote for the Finish - it sucks with us. I will not even try any pills at all, since the powder is completely satisfactory, and they are decently more expensive.