Vacuum packing machine

[marlanca]

marlanca, Galina, is there a lot of water in the marinade? I all want to understand whether it will be possible to vacuum the ketchup or not)

Eh, and I just solder with marinade without any modes. At first I was worried, and then I thought why should I suffer, if there is not a word in the recipe about any vacuum? You could not have soldered, but it takes up less space and turning from side to side is more pleasant when you do not touch the product: I do not like to touch raw meat and fish, I’m probably a white-handed person.

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, thanks again. Thought ...

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, marlanca, Girls, I won't master 260 pages. What are your models? I want sleek bags.

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999,
Oksana marinade is quite liquid (soy sauce + olive oil + different herbs + narsharab), marinates perfectly, I don't understand how you suppose to vacuum ketchup, just in bags?

Elina,

Vacuum sealer solis vac prestige ....)))

Yeah, also somehow two or three liters of sauces from the store came in a package. I'm not sure that it was vacuum, my packer will suck all the ketchup and choke ())

Vacuum sealer solis vac prestige ....)))

I sobbed. For me, premium is also expensive.

How do you propose to vacuum ketchup, just in bags?

Yeah, I somehow bought ketchup in a bag, it was like in a vacuum (there was no excess air). Well, he should be superb for such a price)

For freezing, smooth bags are convenient to use. Are they suitable for cooking sous vide? Is there such information?

I prefer rolls where only one side is grooved. I have ready-made packages, where both sides are corrugated, I do not like it at work.

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999, well, think for yourself, why shove ketchup into the vacuum apparatus? You can perfectly expel air from the bag by hand, and then solder it. As with any liquid, such a scheme. The vacuum will not add anything to you, it will just suck your ketchup into the device. Damn, how else to explain ...

For me, premium is also expensive.

Keep quiet, sadness ... All acquired by back-breaking labor ...




francevna, I now have two types of rolls - relatives from solis, which came in the kit, and I additionally ordered gemlux - they seem to be the cheapest damn, it doesn't matter for a thousand rubles... To pamper the toad did not choke still strangles, bitch.
Solisovsky corrugated on both sides, Hemlux on one. I don't see the difference yet, well, the first ones are one and a half times denser and more expensive just one and a half times
marlanca, no, did not understand. Does he work with packages in the "pickling" mode? The instructions say that this is a mode for containers.

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999, Oksana, about ketchup I'll put in my 5 kopecks. When I was choosing a vacuum cleaner, I purposefully looked for it only on the websites of companies that supply equipment for catering, that is, to have a professional or at least a semi-professional. So, everywhere they wrote that only vacuum chambers are suitable for evacuating liquid and semi-liquid products. This is such a large cube, you open the lid, put the bag, close the lid and the chamber itself measures the pressure there and decides when the vacuum is reached and when to solder.

A chamber for a liquid in vacuumizers common among us is of course a preventive measure, but if suddenly by chance the liquid goes there, into the motor or whatever, that's it, it's all down to the device

If you decide to vacuum the ketchup, carefully and with great care. Will crawl into the device - you won't have time to look back

And by the way, I advise everyone to carefully read the user manual. My appliance must be stored with the lid ajar - on purpose, so that this sealing sponge / rubber band is not crushed

I want sleek bags.

Len, anyone, including the one you chose.Meter packages, black straws in the same place.

Len, anyone, including the one you chose. Meter packages, I bought black straws there.

You scare ... And why still a straw?

[Elina]

Elina, you insert, this is how I am in the photo above with a rag, it sucks through a straw and seals it with it.
Smooth bags are not suitable because they collapse immediately, and the air remains inside. Straw decides.

I read, read and ordered Solis Vac Prestige I want to try suvid in Kenwood with induction tell me, people in the know, which is better to take bags or a roll? where will you choose and which ones? for me, smooth and grooved is a dark forest.

You scare ... And why still a straw?

We study the materiel))) The straw imitates the very corrugation of the package, which allows air to be sucked in.

I read you, I read ... I saw a discount on kitfort, made an order. But I sit thinking whether to pick up or order another. Nobody uses the Gemlux GL-VS-779S Vacuum Sealer. Well, or a little simpler Gemlux GL-VS-169S.?
How critical is the width of the packages used? Kitfort 20, against hemlux 30cm

[S_V]

S_V, let's be friends with vacuum equipment!
Smooth ones do not fit, corrugated ones are needed. Well, that is, it is possible with smooth ones, we just talk about this above - but with additional dances).
It seems to me that the rolls are more convenient, you can cut off as much as you need. They come from any manufacturer, people take Status, I bought Gemlux as the cheapest. Then I plan to switch to smooth bags from Metro, but I don't know if they are suitable for sous vide.



lira3003, 28 same. The people have kitforths, they praise them. Gemlux is somehow less common, but I saw someone here. So they also take it.



Svetlenki, explain, pliz, what does the evacuation of liquid in a chamber vacuum apparatus give? She still does not shrink, that is, the air around her is squeezed out, and that's it. It is much easier to do it manually.

We study the materiel))) The straw imitates the very corrugation of the package, which allows air to be sucked in.

Is there a valve? Straight dumbfounded ... Where is that materiel about the straw?

So I pour the marinade straight into the bag, put the meat and press the "marinating" mode, he himself then starts the air there, then releases it, and when he finishes, I just press the seal and that's it ...

Oh the Lord! What for?
In a sense, it creates pressure fluctuations, then excess, then atmospheric? Does the package not fly out under excessive pressure? It's smooth on the outside. Well, when we inflate a balloon, we must hold it, otherwise the excess pressure will tear off the mouth.)))

The vacuum will not add anything to you, it will just suck your ketchup into the device. Damn, how else to explain ...

)))
People still sometimes confuse the absence of air with a vacuum. Which is the essence of emptiness. There can be no emptiness or negative pressure in a filled bag, but the absence of air is easy.

Is there a valve?

We are not talking about a pistol for which there are bags with a valve, but about an ordinary vacuum apparatus with ordinary bags.

Is there a valve?

Where??
Are you talking about a pistol? Or a normal vacuum sealer?

[Bijou]

Where is that materiel about the straw?

I don’t know now. Maybe someone will throw the exile.




Bijou, I have already dotted I))

You can perfectly expel air from the bag by hand, and then solder it. As with any liquid, such a scheme

I think that the remaining air will provoke the development of mold. That's why I'm thinking about a vacuum cleaner.

[Elina]

Elina, no, it's about those packages that are sealed, disposable.



Anna1957, in fact, an ordinary vacuum apparatus can also pack zip packages by means of a hose.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Sveta, thanks
Again plagued by doubts about the choice)

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999, the vacuum sealer in this case will not be more accurate, rather the opposite - you will be afraid that it will suck in now, and therefore you will not pump out the air completely. But I already offered you a reliable option - freeze and then evacuate.

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999You will have to sterilize your ketchup anyway. And it is no longer very important whether there will be inclusions of air or not.

If you just planned to close it without the presence of air, then imagine a similar situation - you put the can up to the top and ... roll it up. The conditions are the same - lack of air and tightness. Will it be stored? But it's easier with a jar, you can put a boiling product in it and roll it up, it will stand. But a bag of boiling water will require colossal care! Why is this? ...

Are you talking about a pistol? Or a normal vacuum sealer?

I foolishly bought a gun. Kitforth. Now I'm looking for a normal one, but the budget is small, maximum 5000r

I foolishly bought a gun. Kitforth.

Why is this foolish?)) I would also not mind. In the presence of containers. Packages don't really inspire me either. Somehow ...
The budget is excellent, even the same Redmond seems to be cheaper now. Although there are now other idols.))

[Elina]

Elinacaso TouchVac, for example

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, Natasha, you are a genius! I read it through the word) And I realized that you just advised me to leave it in the freezer)



Girls, thank you very much for your advice!

[Oksana1999]

Oksana1999, I just saw on the Internet that fruit purees are packaged this way, who are engaged in procurement.

[Natasha]

Natasha, I do not know how the chamber vacuumator works - I saw it only in the transfer of the master chef. I cannot afford it either in size or in price.

But you understand that in a professional kitchen no one will stand and guess when to manually stop the vacuuming of mashed potatoes or scallops into béchamel and switch to sealing. And put the package into the camera, pressed start and she gave you a ready-made result.

I can't find a sensible video on the evacuation of liquids in a vacuum chamber on my phone.



Sibelis, Natasha, great idea with freezing !!! I take into service

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, I wonder how in this chamber it turns out not to squeeze the product through the seam before sealing. I haven't seen him live either. In Mediamarkt, they sold it cheaply, with a 90% discount, but it needs to be built in, although it is not very large. Not very comfortable.



While my handsome man makes me very happy
Although sous-vid doesn't seem to be mine. I cooked a turkey breast, and I didn’t like it - I just like more dry meat with fibers. It might be nice to cook some tough meat like beef like that, but I don't eat it

Oh the Lord! What for?
In a sense, it creates pressure fluctuations, then excess, then atmospheric? Does the package not fly out under excessive pressure? It's smooth on the outside. Well, when we inflate a balloon, we must hold it, otherwise the excess pressure will tear off the mouth.)))
)))

Flax does not fly out, everything stays in place ....))) ....

[marlanca]

marlanca, which package is it with a galley valve?

[marlanca]

marlanca, which package is it with a galley valve?

Yes, a regular package, which is corrugated, I cut off as much as necessary and vacuum it ...)))

Bijou,

I found it, just about our video packer, look:

I ordered a PROFI COOK PC-VK 1080 vacuum unit for 5623 rubles. It was tempted that there is vacuuming for delicate products (we eat little greens and it often spoils) and for wet and dry. Vacuum grade 0.8 bar (not bad).

Here's a video:

[sleepyhead]

I found it, just about our video packer, look:

Christmas trees-brooms, it's good if from the fifth time, not from the twenty-fifth, I finally saw a slightly inflated bag at 54 seconds!

Why - I still did not understand. If the chip is in the absence of air, then why inflate it there. If in an attempt to arrange excess pressure, it still did not work out there. IMHO, an attempt to foist a non-existent need.))
Well, okay, it's not worth the money and does not ask for food, let it be, if so.

Thanks I'll know.

sleepyhead, and on the forum looking for reviews? Really good?

[Bijou]

Bijou, aaaaa but no, it's not like that! It evacuates the container for 8 minutes, during this time it creates a vacuum and turns it off several times. It doesn't work with packages!



sleepyhead, I saw those dissatisfied here with this vacuum cleaner.

[It doesn't work with packages!]

Biju, aaaaa but no, it's not like that! It evacuates the container for 8 minutes, during this time it creates a vacuum and turns it off several times. It doesn't work with packages!

Oh really? Can not be!!
What, then, is the clever aunt in the video - darkness! What teaches the uninitiated ...

[Bijou]

Bijou, I read the instructions for three hours yesterday, no video aunt will fool me. By the way, it is very well written and everything is clear, they are great.

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, well, yes.When she began to direct the marinade in the container, I sighed with relief, they say, hurray, it is clear that there is such a swing with pressure on the container work trying to speed up the pickling. Then I looked - I poured everything into the bag. At this point, some kind of numbness came over me - I twist the segment over and over again and I can't enter, but what for is all this crap with a reverse ?? This is where the pressure does not change.
It turns out that Bijou is a fool from all sides, in short.)))

soneyka, I saw those dissatisfied here with this vacuum cleaner.

I didn't find any dissatisfied with the search, everyone responds well. The only negative feedback I found was that it closed tight.

[sleepyhead]

sleepyhead, okay, they chose and they chose. Maybe one of the owners will respond and tell.



sleepyhead, here, I found:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=23439.1960
answer No. 1968-1975

Can you please tell me who uses what containers for Caso vacuum sealers?
I don't like my relatives for their strange shape + they are not stacked one on top of the other.
Also on sale are Status, Gochu, Kitfort and Bekker.
But I'm not sure that the native hose from Caso will suit them, and in general, what is their quality.

soneyka, here, found:

Thank you, read it. But she consulted with a woman who has such a vacuum cleaner, she says - buy it, she likes it, she has already had it for the second year. I'll take a chance. Then I will unsubscribe.

[sleepyhead]

sleepyhead, I think everything will be fine! Everyone basically likes their packers, disgruntled units

And if he began to open tightly, what can be fixed there? In general, it does not react to buttons, it clings like a dog to a stick and does not give the package