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On Panasonic they write everywhere that the enamel is gray. But on Samsung - yes, bio-ceramics.
I rubbed the stainless steel after each cooking, I don't know how much, I just hated it
Yes, there was also a grill. you will also take off figs. Goldstar she was.
Irinap
I'll sit and listen. At the very Samsung c100 r, I bought 15 years ago with the bells and whistles of the gas oven just adapted to it. Bio ceramics somehow did not think that it was necessary to wash, and now they do not take any means. Bandura (well, I don’t know how to call it differently) is healthy and very heavy, for all the years she has been baking - the fingers of one hand are enough. I want a small, neat one.
Mandraik Ludmila
Girls, boys, I really need help - advice, my son needs a public microwave to work, please advise a modern micra with simple functions, no frills and, most importantly, reliable. And then my micros are old, they are at least 10 years old, in modern ones I don't understand anything
Mirabel
Mandraik Ludmila, ButtercupSo Samsung is again the simplest model.
I have so average skills, I wanted to change to a cooler one, and then I calmed down. Everything works fine, is easy to clean and looks good.
Ilmirushka
Mandraik Ludmila, Buttercup, recently in the store I was interested in modern trends in microwaves (and here they discussed that it is inexpensive and for a long time. They said: take Samsung with bio-ceramics - you won't be mistaken. short-lived.




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looks effective.
Mirabel, Vikulya, I would have bragged about a photo, eh?
Mandraik Ludmila
Mirabel, Vikochka, thank you, I look at them and are not very expensive, but what do you think is better, ceramics or stainless steel from the inside
Ilmirushka, so you answered my question about the coverage, thanks!
Mirabel
Quote: Ilmirushka
I would brag about a photo
Yes, an ordinary black micra, it works and thank God!

Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
ceramic or stainless steel from the inside
aha! ceramics of course!
I had this Sharp, so cool, but stainless steel inside, it was not very nice to clean.
Mandraik Ludmila
We have an old LG, they gave it to their parents at their dacha, it is more than 15 years old, for sure, and the enamel is intact and everything works, but now, as I understand it, they don’t do this. got stuck "people And so it is almost 6 sput, the same is quite democratic, but if you can pay less, I don't understand why pay more. I have a technique from Avita - I'm happy, everything works
Mirabel
I ask for advice! if there is no rotary thing in the mic, but only a countertop, does this mean that there is convection in it? or optional?
Mrs. Addams
Girls boys! There was a need to change an old microwave oven, which is more than 15 years old (DAEWOO) - the enamel cracked and peeled off under the "wheels". More than 4000-5000 rubles. I can't spend on this business. In this price category, everything I looked at - there is not much difference in the characteristics. Since, in fact, the choice in terms of design and manufacturer - purely outwardly, stopped at this: Midea AM820CMF, made in Belarus (there are videos and just reviews on YouTube). In addition to the appearance, I liked it: power 800, no grill and coating "easy cleaning enamel" (even with the admission of marketing tricks), buttons, automatic programs

Microwave ovens (discussion of models, modes, features)
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What do you think of the manufacturer? Or what do you recommend?
Ilmirushka
Mrs. Addams, Arina, I have also been puzzled by this question for a long time, I looked at bio-ceramics or stainless steel from the coating because literally everything was sprinkled in my enamel (it’s scary to look!), And my friend’s bio-ceramics in a micro - the same age as my mykra, and all intact! Many discourage stainless steel, such as rubbing the shine, you will make a mess, many have exactly the opposite opinion on this matter. So, I'm in thought, either bioceramics, or stainless steel. For some reason I didn’t look at the Midea model, but it seems to me that the micra is worthwhile. In Belarus, after all, there is more order than elsewhere, which means that the quality should be at the level.Outwardly, I liked the little stove
Mrs. Addams
Ilmirushka, Thank you!
Of course, after such a puncture of the enamel, I also wanted to take a stainless steel, but firstly, sometimes they write a stainless steel, but in fact it is also enamel (even ozone has such inconsistencies in the description of characteristics), well, at the cost it does not suit me now.
Ilmirushka
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write stainless steel, but in fact it is also enamel (even ozone has such inconsistencies in the description of characteristics),
So I go along all the rows and clap each ... one bird with these micros.
Mirabel
Ilmirushka, Ilmira, well, you were advised by Samsung, well
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So I go along all the rows and clap each ... one bird with these micros.
but I still want it more abruptly, and I’ll give my own, also very good one, to my mother.
or Samsung or Whirlpool.
lira3003
Of course, I can't recommend a good microwave ... I have a Samsung with bio-ceramics. She is 7 years old, we only use it as a warmer .. but
Quote: Mrs. Addams
Midea AM820CMF, made in Belarus
I don't think so ... Most likely a mistake. It can't be that Midea, a purely Chinese brand is produced in Belarus

Mrs. Addams
I don't know if it will be seen
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
that my enamel literally sprinkled all over (it's scary to look!)
I thought I was the only one

damn, at least there is something to tell my husband, otherwise he thinks that it’s me: spiteful: although of all I use it least of all

So what, did you choose?
I dug everything on HP, I thought what I would find here, recommendations / advice, I was very surprised - almost nothing




Quote: lira3003
I have a Samsung with bio-ceramics.
and how to operate with such a coating? Is she only micra?
Wit
M-dyaaa, I read it, I was not impressed, somehow they write dimly about this bio-ceramics. Well, if "ceramics", then there is a lot of silicon and this was considered sufficient. Although in Greek "keramos" is clay. Who cares can stupidly score, like me in a search engine, "What is ceramics?" But what is there BIO?!? The titanium-silicon-calcium alloy is the brainchild of NASA. The Japanese and Koreans used it in the micro. It is strange that a quick China in such cases is not in business! And bump into this:
at the Bremen Research Institute of Applied Materials (Fraunhofer, Germany), it was possible to prove that the bioceramic coating is superior to stainless steel in a number of the following indicators.

Nuuu ?! And where are the world famous British scientists ?! I'm trying to find this Bremen Research Institute. Her, Yandex dumps out only the Bremen musicians. It got bored ...

With regards to enamel. We have a micra so ... I don't remember, 7 or 10. Austrian, the enamel is in place. Mine, really not me, but I haven't heard any complaints or grunts. At first they cooked according to a recipe book, then they just warmed it up. The grill is in the oven. Well, defrosting is also sometimes used.
"Think for yourself, decide for yourself
To have or not to have. "In the sense of bothering. In the morning, I hope people competent in bioceramics will scoop up and say that I'm wrong. Boom to wait and repent
... Or maybe not
dopleta
Quote: Wit
I'm trying to find this Bremen Research Institute
Wit, Bremen has a University with a Faculty of Engineering and Technology.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
So what, did you choose?

Sveta, do not build with us what you want. And in the summer, instead of a micro, I had to urgently buy a refrigerator. As usual, as soon as you are about to get rich, then the sugar will run out, then the panties will tear ...
Svetlana777
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As usual, as soon as you are about to get rich, then the sugar will run out, then the panties will tear ...


Quote: Ilmirushka
do not build with us what you want.
straight intrigued, and why do you want this? I don't know what I want yet. On the one hand, I only use a micron (heat it up, bake it, and sterilize the jars when preparing it), no grills, etc. (although I have one), and on the other hand, I think, what if I need an entot grill every 10 years
Larissa, maybe, as a specialist in gadgets, what do you advise?
I would have changed mine a long time ago, but my husband was against it, but yesterday he offered to look at the micra himself, I was at a loss, there is one thought in my head - I need to run to the HP to consult
dopleta
Sveta, I can advise or not advise only what I have dealt with myself. I have had several different microwave ovens, the last one has been working perfectly for six years, LG, with a steamer, grill and many functions, but this model is no longer available. But there are many others, no worse. It seems to me that if you buy it, then it is not the most primitive, that is, not only for warming up, but to use the provided opportunities to the maximum. But the extra bells and whistles are also not needed.
Svetlana777
Quote: dopleta
LG, with a steamer, grill and many features, but this model is no longer available.
Thank you for the answer, I did not doubt that you would respond, of course you can advise what you yourself used (I saw that you did not have one). Do you use a double boiler? Is the LG enamel coating? (even I was fixated on the coating, I won't look at Daewoo for sure, because there was one with quirks (but that first one after the Soviet one, also with a grill spit, a coating, and I had to buy the second only by looking at the design, not on the brand, etc. in the end turned out to be the same brand and again peeled off inside, it can be seen that Daewoo has a disease)
Mirabel
Quote: Ilmirushka
as soon as you are going to get rich, then the sugar will run out, then the panties will tear ...
Ilmir! Top ten!
Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
straight intrigued, and why do you want this?
Sveta, if only I knew!
Just like you
Quote: Svetlana777
I don’t know what I want yet.
At first I wanted a cool stuffed one, then I think to myself - I don’t cook it, and, most likely, I hardly will. So, we need the easiest one for defrosting and heating, leafing through the catalogs of stores ... I realized that the simple ones are all with a very simple coating - enamel, and I already had this and peeled off. In short, as always - CHO is - I do not want, I want CHO - I DO NOT know. Although everyone is discouraged from stainless steel, but I only lean towards it. I don’t need its original shop shine, it’s more important to me that it doesn’t peel off, but gets dirty, so I smeared it and washed it.
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
you need the easiest one for defrosting and heating
no, well, I sometimes bake it, though it’s all the same on microwaves (although there is a combi) today, I was able to cook meat with mushrooms and potatoes in pots there. Yes, and I have been baking meat in an envelope lately (I said to my own sausage I am exterminating nafig instead of it - meat)
Quote: Ilmirushka
it's more important to me that it doesn't peel off,
it is also more important to me that it does not climb
Quote: Ilmirushka
but it got dirty, so I smeared it and washed it.
: umnik2: and I want: secret: Schaub was not crap
Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
and I want Schaub, not even crap
not well, the micra was not shitty - there is a saving option - a cap-cap, it's just that some people can't be forced to use it. And micra with stainless steel inside already implies all sorts of bells and whistles, therefore - the price is higher. I think that when I set out to find and buy, I will still look for LG, if possible, and stainless steel if possible (if LG has them), well, and so that there are fewer bells and whistles. ABOUT! It turns out, I know what I want
Wit
Enamel is different. What has peeled off? White? I took the gray, the so-called hammer. She looks like a pattern, and not clean, like white. For 8 years nothing has peeled off. It is one of the most durable enamels. We cover the hulls of special equipment operating in especially harsh conditions.

Quote: Svetlana777
and I want Schaub.
... and prepared itself.
Mandraik Ludmila
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Schaub, you didn’t shit
Oh, this is a universal dream of "unrealizable" And I have another problem, mikra Moulinex is about 10 years old, the enamel (white) is almost what it was when I bought it, it is the most primitive, and everything would be fine, but then I suddenly realized that It is too small in size, it does not fit inside so much lope, the same cans fit in 5 pieces of 0.5-0.8 liters each, but I need more, I have to sterilize in 2 batches, which is inconvenient. And now I sit and think, Mikra is working, in good condition, but small. And it is a pity to throw it out and it became inconvenient to use, but all the HP is to blame, it will teach everyone ...
Wit
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
mikra Moulinex for about 10 years, enamel (white) is almost what it was when you bought it,

Here is your answer. Enamel is not in business here. It's just that kind of attitude in the factory when coating. And then "stainless steel-stainless steel". Not a bad option, of course, but more expensive. I am leaving this topic - I have already said everything.

Ilmirushka
Quote: Wit
What kind? White?
Wit, yes, white
Quote: Wit
I took the gray, the so-called hammer. She looks like a pattern, and not clean, like white.
I didn’t know about this, and I didn’t see it. Maybe she didn't pay attention out of ignorance

Quote: Wit
For 8 years nothing has peeled off. It is one of the most durable enamels. We cover the hulls of special equipment operating in especially harsh conditions.
it's great. My micra is 16 years old (!), The consultants in the store are all laughing and saying: it's time to throw it away! And I can't do without it, and there's no new one yet.





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And it was a pity to throw it out and it became inconvenient to use,
Buttercup, the chain mail became too small - this is a sign that a new BALSHAAAYA is needed!
dopleta
Quote: Svetlana777
Do you use a double boiler? Is the LG enamel coating?
Yes, Sveta, I do. She is so cute that under her cap and dishes are often served on the table, as in a restaurant.
Microwave ovens (discussion of models, modes, features)
The chamber is made of stainless steel and is rounded inside. There is convection, a crisp plate (of course), two grates of different heights.
Svetlana777
Quote: Wit
What has peeled off? White?
yeah, white. But I indicated who made this "miracle"
Quote: Wit
Enamel is not in business here. This is just the attitude in the factory when coating.
100%
Quote: Wit
I took the gray, the so-called hammer. She looks like a pattern, and not clean, like white.
and the company? it was possible to share, otherwise suddenly we want this too
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
that she is too small in size,
so I have a problem, the volume is needed not so much for cooking, namely for blanks. And I even saw the mikra I want, the shape is interesting, it fits a lot in volume, and it takes no more space than usual. Samsung, but they are not released. I wonder why something that is normal and is in demand is somehow quickly removed from production (I'm not only talking about microns ...), and not popular ones are filling the shelves?




Quote: dopleta
The chamber is made of stainless steel and is rounded inside. There is convection, a crisp plate (of course), two grates of different heights.
wow, I want one that is rounded inside, I also want a crisp plate (I really don't know what it is), is that what they don't release anymore like that?
dopleta
Crisp cymbals now seem to be in all models. This is so that the dish is fried with a crispy crust.
Svetlana777
Quote: dopleta
Crisp cymbals now seem to be in all models.
most likely in those where there is convection, in simple micro-solos, probably not
Wit
Quote: Ilmirushka
My micra is 16 years old (!), The consultants in the store are all laughing and saying: it's time to throw it away!

You don't have to laugh here, but you have to do big frightened eyes. Old stoves older than 9 years must be disposed of, they become dangerous to use. The door is loose, the latches too, and damage to the protective mesh is possible. But not as scary ... as ... Draw your own conclusions.

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I will change.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Wit
Old stoves over 9 years old must be disposed of, they become dangerous to use. The door is loose, the latches too, and damage to the protective mesh is possible.
Oh, how, I did not notice this for mine, it seems that nothing dangles and the mesh is intact, it is almost like new, but this is such a reason to change the micro
Wit
Quote: Svetlana777
and the company? it was possible to share, otherwise suddenly we want this too
I owe you. Made in Austria

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Good luck to everyone and all the best!
Ilmirushka
Quote: Wit
big eyes scared to do
already! ... Outwardly, nothing dangles and the mesh is intact, I have not tried to check it with a smartphone yet, but I consciously understood that it was high time to change it!
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
I haven't tried to check it with my smartphone yet
What is it like?




Quote: dopleta
then not the most primitive,
Damn, I've studied so much that I don't want anything. ... I found such a Midea AC925N3A Microwave Oven (although I didn’t look in the direction of this brand, it’s somehow strange to me that this is a Chinese brand, but it is produced in Belarus. There is no crisp plate, it’s squeezed.) But it has everything, even convection, and the price more acceptable than other brands with such a complete set. I am sitting all in thought. Nobody has a micro of this brand? And do you need convection or so to play around at once?
Svetlana777
something gnaws at me doubts about such a check
Mandraik Ludmila
But it's interesting to check out the new micra in the store
Svetlana777
I didn't believe it for nothing, I studied physics, bullshit all this. That's what I found

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and I believe this, if you get to the last point about the Wi-Fi signal (this is me to check not on a cellular connection, but on the Internet), we argue the microwave oven magnetron works at a frequency of 2.45 GHz and in the same frequency range, data is exchanged between the Wi-Fi router and related devices. Highlighted the word works, respectively, if you put the smartphone in the micron and check for the signal, it will naturally pass, there are no microwaves, and accordingly there is no one / something to block the signal. When turned off, this is just a box with thickened walls, and the signal passes through the walls.Really, this can only be checked when the microwave is on, but pardonte personally, I will not dare to shove mine there and turn it on,




Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
But it's interesting to check out the new micra in the store
it makes no sense, I wrote everything above
Mandraik Ludmila
That's what pisses me off about such articles, is the juggling of terms. They write: "The reasons for the leakage of radiation waves", "this is a home generator emitting radiation" - Brad and uzhOs !!!
There is no need to confuse and frighten people, there is no radiation from micrometers, there is a microwave (ultra-high frequency) radio wave, but this is not radiation. This is not about Vita, this is about the authors of the article.

Radiation emissions include: Alpha radiation, Beta radiation, Neutron radiation, Gamma radiation, and X-rays. 🔗
This has nothing to do with microwave (super-high-frequency) radio waves.

Mrs. Addams
Quote: Mrs. Addams
Girls boys! There was a need to change an old microwave oven, which is more than 15 years old (DAEWOO) ...
Hurrah! Finally, I bought a new micra! But not Mideu, as she wanted, but Panasonic NN-ST342M (also assembled in Belarus). Simple, without grilling and bells and whistles, as I wanted. But it is large, the table is also large, convenient buttons and a door, the inner surface is easy to clean and dries instantly. I have been at work since winter, so I bought it (while discounts on Ozone).
Ilmirushka, if I'm not mistaken, you wanted a stainless steel inside? While I was scouring - I found such a BBK 23MWC-982S / SB-M (assembled in Kaliningrad), there is a grill and convection. If interested, take a look at "Ozone" or the Market. In the description of the stores, the enamel coating is indicated, and in the reviews the people write and show that it is stainless steel. (to the question about the inconsistency of the description)
Svetlana777
Quote: Mrs. Addams
While I was scouring - I found such a BBK 23MWC-982S / SB-M (assembled in Kaliningrad), there is a grill and convection.
well, due to the fact that I am also looking for it, I looked at it, although I don’t want a stainless steel coating, but curiosity got the better of it, the exact model that is indicated on Ozone was made in China (there is a cheaper model of this brand, here is the one in Russia) but they are both solo, that is, there is no grill, let alone convection. The cheapest one with these functions was found only by Midea, looked / felt in the store, but I did not like the fact that you need to open the door with a handle (somehow it is more convenient with a button), but then it turned out that they also have a button opening with the same functions a bit more expensive ... And if the choice is great, my interest somehow quickly fades away, the more the form I want is not, and no one has
Ilmirushka
Sveta, and in the description won CHO: The modern and spacious microwave oven BBK 23MWC-982S / SB-M is easy to operate and quite functional.A mirrored front panel, LED display and electronic control are the components of a stylish and concise design of modern kitchen appliances. The chamber volume is 23 liters. There are 11 levels of microwave power adjustment, the maximum is 900 W. In addition to the usual automatic programs for cooking and defrosting food by weight, there is a combination mode that uses microwaves and grill and is suitable for cooking large pieces of meat or fish. The "Convection" function allows you to replace the oven with a microwave, if you want to eat pies or biscuits. The control panel lock function will restrict the child's access to the equipment. Odor removal function is provided.
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
and in the description won CHO
I went to look, here are the idiots, they wrote a solo, I didn't read the description itself, ... I looked at the buttons for persuasion, but she has everything, but I still don't want to, I'm not tuned in to the stainless steel inside, and I don't want to have such a pen , and I still don’t like that the ventilation holes are on the top, but I have devices on the micro.

that's why I don't want to have a handle, my household will pull and everything will fly to hell ...

Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
I'm not tuned in to the stainless steel inside,
Sveta, tell me why? I've worn out with my peeling enamel and don't want more for nothing. I think that stainless steel is still more reliable in care. I don't even need its shine inside, the main thing is that you can wash and clean it by any means, even harsh. What arguments do you have against?

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