Problems with the resource and with the service of Hitachi bread makers

[Now the second problem of Hitachi HB-E303: where to get such a rubber seal for a bucket? and what kind of axle grease to use? I only know that the lubricant must be food-grade and high-temperature (in the food industry, they are used on machines, but they do not sell this in stores.)]

We bought a Hitachi HB-E303 1.5 years ago.
We were pleased with the stove. The first bread turned out to be lumpy, and from the second it went like a professional, everything was fine. They cooked only white bread, did not try any jams and muffins, only tried black bread 2 times.
A year later, we noticed that the axle in the bucket gradually began to spin tightly and after several uses the axle in the bucket got jammed.
I called Moscow services, using all the numbers listed on their home site. Each of the services was discouraged and directed to the next ... Someone said that we did not deal with stoves, and someone referred that they did not have spare parts for bread makers at all, they said if it is interesting to wait, then bring the oven to us and we will make an order for roofing felts in Europe We will send felts to Japan and will wait. When asked how long it would take to wait, they said: months, maybe half a year
I am angry with them and this company. How can a consumer of their product be treated like that .... disrespect .... and the brand is old and well-known. Perhaps this is only in Russia with a service like this.
I decided to independently disassemble this axle on a bucket and check what was the matter: I removed the spring washer at the lower end and everything figured out, the axle got stuck, wetted it, dripped oil, slowly and slowly twisted it and pulled it out.
So I saw the problems: the grease on the axle / bushing was all dry (it just isn't there anymore) the gray rubber seal at the bottom of the bucket, which seals the axle from leaks, worn out and moisture / dough began to penetrate under it, drying out and baking worn out even more this seal and stuffing under it the dough .... led to problems.
As a result: the oil seal is completely unusable, loosened, the hole has become wider and is slightly destroyed from the inside, the elasticity of the rubber has been preserved, the gray color of the rubber has not been preserved, the color has become coffee with milk, there is a slight wear on the axle and as a result, there is already a little backlash.
And all this with careful and careful use, the stove looks almost like new, and the bucket inside and outside is clean as new, there are no fumes and stains, the Teflon coating is clean and without scratches.

Now the second problem of Hitachi HB-E303:
where to get such a rubber seal for a bucket? and what kind of axle grease to use? I only know that the lubricant must be food-grade and high-temperature (in the food industry, they are used on machines, but they do not sell this in stores.)

And I think that there are problems with the oil seal and with the lubricant for any bread machine / brand, because the dough and especially the high temperature do their destructive work.
At least somewhere spare parts were sold, can anyone see where they are in Moscow?

This is just the beginning of your problems. It will get worse further. I had a 301st model since 1996, now I have replaced it with a 303rd, so I can predict the sad fate of your bread machine in every detail.
At first, it will jam, and the further - the more often. Especially if you put it at night - it has time to dry out
And then, due to constant heating and the efforts of the engine to move the dried-on agitator, the lower part of the coupling, made of black plastic, simply falls apart. Personally, I found a turner and ordered a new part, not plastic, of course, but metal. Rubber bands for sealing are in workshops for the repair of imported household appliances - I was lucky once, bought and changed. But it did not help much - the new gum does not hold there, it constantly pops up, and it is scary to plant it on glue - we still make bread.
But this is not the last problem - constant leaks from the bucket to the coupling will lead to the fact that not only the upper bearing in the bucket will wedge, but also the lower bearing in the stove itself.As a rule, disassembly does not help - it is easier to turn the shaft near the stove right from above with pliers, and it will continue to cook.
And when you are completely tired of cooking with pliers in your hands, I advise you to throw this device away and just buy a new one
In the 90s, faced with a problem in his NVV-301 (by the way, Japanese, not Chinese, as now), I searched all English-language sites, and found that the bourgeoisie were suffering with the same problem - there were no spare parts for the Hitachka ...

I read and just goosebumps! Is this really waiting for my beauty?

Marishka, here it seems about Hitachi, and you have LG
so don't worry

You don't need to worry. : csip: You just need to be mentally prepared for trouble: look at the bottom of the bucket in Hitachi - everything is made of iron, which can be disassembled and repaired if desired. And in the Ski ...
The wisest decision, in my opinion, is to replace the bucket in the oven once a year - one and a half, provided that the bread is cooked daily. Waiting for the ordered spare part within a month or two. In this case, the stove itself will easily last ten years.

>> The wisest decision, in my opinion, is to replace the bucket in the oven once a year - one and a half, provided that the bread is cooked daily. Waiting for the ordered spare part within a month or two. The stove itself in this case will easily last ten years. <<

This is what I want to do, but where can I get this bucket?, In the service, when they hear that they are addressing about a bread machine, everyone refers to a different service, they say, call the other one or the other, in the end, I get rid of everything, with one they even said bring a stove we are going to repair it, I tell you why to drag the whole stove to you, I need a new bucket, and it is better if only the oil seal is changed in the old one. He says it is customary with us - bring the stove. I say the warranty has already ended, nafig to carry the stove to you, he says, then contact another service.
Tell me exactly which service will actually sell me a bucket or or ....?

I wonder what awaits me with my bread maker? I have a Panasonic 253. Who has any problems with it? what to prepare for?

I wonder what awaits me with my bread maker? I have a Panasonic 253. Who has any problems with it? what to prepare for?

There are no problems with spare parts for Panas

This is what I want to do, but where can I get this bucket?, In the service, when they hear that they are addressing about the bread maker, everyone refers to another service, they say, call the other one or the other, in the end, I get rid of everything, with one they even said bring the stove we are going to repair it, I tell you why to drag the whole stove to you, I need a new bucket, and it is better if only the oil seal is changed in the old one. He says it is customary for us to bring the stove. I say the warranty has already ended, nafig to carry the stove to you, he says, then contact another service.
Tell me exactly which service will actually sell me a bucket or or ....?

It is difficult to recommend a specific service - we live in different cities. Probably, you need to go to the service center that you had under warranty. The main thing is that the company specializes in imported equipment. I can advise the following - do not waste time talking with the receiver, their main task is to avoid any problems, and they have no time to think. It is better to talk to a manager. Show him the bucket brought with you, along with a warranty (albeit expired) coupon for the stove. Set the task to buy exactly the same bucket assembly, and offer to make an advance payment for the spare part and for the "repair".
The fact that you are required to bring the whole stove is the internal policy of some establishments, since the income of the craftsmen comes from repairs, and not from the sale of spare parts. As a rule, they determine the price for repairs on the principle of "how much you can rip off", and take in total about a third of the cost of a new device. (If you take more than a third, people will not repair things, but throw them away and buy new ones.)
There is no desire to search and negotiate - you can try to repair the stove yourself or through friends. But you are unlikely to find food grade heat-resistant rubber for the oil seal. And the Teflon coating in the bucket and on the mixer cannot be restored.
I repeat, this does not apply to Panasonic - there are no problems with spare parts.

It seems like there are no problems with spare parts for Panas: :)

I repeat, this does not apply to Panasonic - there are no problems with spare parts.
And how often do you have to change spare parts for the stove and what problems can arise?

And how often do you have to change spare parts for the stove and what problems can arise?

If you cook every day, the stove (or rather, the bucket) will last a year and a half or two. The service life depends not only on the operation. Materials and construction matter.
For example, in old models of stoves, the heating element was located almost at the bottom, next to the coupling and the gland. (n) Naturally, under such conditions, rubber lost its properties faster, the products got into the bearing and burned. In modern models, heating elements are put higher - in theory, the service life of the oil seal should increase ...
If you change a burnt-out oil seal, a shabby blade, a bucket with a broken bearing in time, the stove will last you fifteen years. By this time, the plastic on the case will begin to crack, and she will get bored

I hope there are no problems with buckets in Moscow?

[2 viacher:]

2 viacher:
Thanks for the advice.

I do not know. I am not in Moscow.

In Moscow, too, there are problems with the bucket, and not only the bucket, but also a kneading knife with the rest of the details, and everything else.
There are only new stoves in stores. You can consider them disposable, used a year or two, jammed the axis of the bucket, threw it out, and went to buy another or store bread.
Where to buy a bucket ?! we will search with a "metal detector" throughout the city.

Why don't HITACHI representatives read the forums?

Why don't HITACHI representatives read the forums?

What for? This is marketing, everything has been counted long ago. You can't make a bucket forever. If we supply spare buckets for the general sale, who will buy new stoves? And not to supply at all - it is also impossible, so you can lose the market. So they fool people.

Shl I can't give a link, due to the prescription, I read it on one English-language forum, where the bourgeois also cannot solve the problem of spare parts for the HBV-301 Hitachi, the general opinion: it is easier to throw out the old stove and buy a new one, but we will have a wonderful knife !!!

Another one was added to the repair.
Now we need to look for 2-buckets for Hitachi-303. or 2-glands.

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If it doesn't help, complain here:

Hitachi Ltd. (Moscow Reprasentative Office)
4th Foor,
Millennium house
Tel: + 7495-787-4022
Fax: + 7495-787-4021

If this does not help, but you can pronounce or at least write in Japanese the words "bucket" and "gland" -
Hitachi, Ltd.
6-6, Marunouchi 1-chome, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, 100-8280
TEL: + 81-3-3258-1111
IR@hdq.hitachi.co.jp (It sends mail)

I apologize for the offtopic, there was a case when we had problems with American technology (I won't tell the company), and the Moscow dealer started fooling us. I fought with them for three months, and then I called the manufacturer in Chicago and fumbled. After 5 minutes I received a fax from the dealer with an ardent apology, a message that a working equipment had just been sent to my address, the company was ready to pay us a forfeit, they humbly ask us for only one favor: do not call Chicago anymore ...: '(like they realized and will no longer ...

Why not do the same in this case? During conversations, I recommend finding out the positions and names of the staff with whom you communicate - a complaint with facts of inattention of employees to the client is considered much faster and the attitude is immediately so polite and polite ...

[viacher]

viacherwhat a wonderful and instructive story
on my own I will add that, as far as I understand, the link 🔗 you can send a message asking about the purchase of spare parts, which I have already done; we'll see! =)

Update: the answer came; I quote:

Dear customer!

You can contact an authorized service center
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[Ivan]

Update2: phoned, left my mobile number to the manager - we will wait for the call; while they say they have been working with Hitachi very recently, so waiting for delivery may take a little longer.To the question: "A little more is how much?" - they say that, in any case, the maximum is a month.
Ivan, are you, if you believe the profile, in Moscow? As a last resort, it is much easier to organize an opportunity between Moscow and St. Petersburg than between Moscow and Japan.

[viacher:]

viacher: Thanks for the help and information, I will try. Although at the very beginning, when the first problem arose, it was at the end of last year, I first called their service centers indicated on their website, the problem was not resolved and I turned to the representatives to write a letter and described the problem, asked what to do next. never answered.

Ruta: Thank you. Yes, indeed, it is often easier to buy from another city than to apply on the spot in Moscow.
Don't tell me: you made an order for a container (bucket), and how much will it cost? Did you ask for the price ??

Interested in the following for the Hitachi HB-E303 model:
1) Is the oil seal in the bucket changed separately (bucket repair)?
2) Will the oil seals be sold separately?
3) How much does the bucket assembly cost? it together with a kneading knife?
4) How much does a stirring knife cost?

[Ivan]

Ivan , this firm does not repair anything, they can only order something from a Hitachi dealership; they sent me by fax a schematic diagram of all parts of the bread machine (I have requested so far only for the C-103) and a line-by-line list of them.
You need to identify the right ones!
contact me by e-mail, please, I cannot attach a picture here, they are too bulky, and when the size is reduced it becomes impossible to read the text.
I have sent you a private message with my email.

Interested in the following for the Hitachi HB-E303 model:
1) Is the oil seal in the bucket changed separately (bucket repair)?
2) Will the oil seals be sold separately?

The oil seal is sold separately, and it costs a mere penny. The ambush is that sometimes a new oil seal just doesn't fit in the bucket. It is not difficult to hammer it, but after baking it can fall out along with the loaf.
And it's scary to plant it on a sealant - it's bread, not plumbing.
I'd rather splurge on a complete bucket if the issue price is no higher than $ 80

[viacher]

viacher, please look with an experienced eye: are all the details necessary in this case present here?

3 - mixing blade
4 - handle
5 - bread pan ass'y (bucket, assembled)
6 - packing ass'y
50 - rubber paking

position 6, which is also in the assembly, and I find it difficult to translate position 50, can you tell me an adequate Russian word? I suspect that 50 is the mentioned oil seal

[2 Ruta:]

2 Ruta:
I answered you by e-mail.

The oil seal is sold separately, and it costs a mere penny. The ambush is that sometimes the new oil seal just doesn't fit in the bucket. It is not difficult to hammer it, but after baking it can fall out along with the loaf.
And it's scary to plant it on a sealant - it's bread, not plumbing.
I'd rather splurge on a complete bucket if the issue price is no higher than $ 80

The gland must be heat resistant! must endure 200-300 degrees. and exactly match the dimensions of the original! and besides the original oil seal on the outer circle inside the rubber there is a wide melallic ring, it is covered with rubber and it is not visible, which gives external rigidity to the oil seal and does not allow it to easily fly out of its place.

BTW: I found a lot of similarities between the Kenwood buckets, looking at the store for the latest models on the list https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...sk=section&id=8&Itemid=31 ... It's just that their bucket is slightly rectangular in width, the lower part of the bucket is constructively 98-99% lonely - possibly the compatibility of parts, oil seal, axle, turntable, .. Even the side clamps of the bucket and stove clamps are very similar.
Only Kenwood's oil seal has an outer metal clip, it is visible, I think it is inserted over the oil seal and does not allow the oil seal to fly out arbitrarily.
There was an idea to ask about Kenwood's services, but so that they did not know and did not suspect that the spare parts should be applied specifically to the Hitachi stove,
You never know, they suddenly turn out to be jealous and refuse to sell individual parts. I also advise readers not to say in services what should be applied to another stove

position 6, which is also in the assembly, and I find it difficult to translate position 50, can you tell me an adequate Russian word? I suspect that 50 is the mentioned oil seal

6 this is the same notorious oil seal.
50 - rubber gasket, which is placed in the stove, under the bucket
In the figure there is no shaft, two fixing washers and several (4-5) anti-friction pieces. Probably implied that the shaft is included in the bucket assembly.

The signatures to the details are strange. Washer (gasket) in English - washer, I did not come across the word paking or packing for the oil seal. There is a word puck - it means a sports puck, and packing - something related to packaging, probably
although he may be behind the times

The gland must be heat resistant! must endure 200-300 degrees. and exactly match the dimensions of the original! and besides the original oil seal on the outer circle inside the rubber there is a wide melallic ring, it is covered with rubber and it is not visible, which gives external rigidity to the oil seal and does not allow it to easily fly out of its place.

Everything is correct. Nevertheless, I had a case when it was the branded oil seal that flew out. I suspect that this is due to the wear of the bearing in the bucket - the shaft starts to "walk" a little, and the new oil seal wraps around the shaft tightly, and as a result it starts to rotate with the shaft. I hope this does not happen in your case.
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I suspect that this is due to the wear of the bearing in the bucket - the shaft starts to "walk" a little, and the new oil seal wraps around the shaft tightly, and as a result it starts spinning with the shaft. I hope this does not happen in your case.
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The bucket contains not a bearing, but a bushing. And a new one flies out because you used it without lubrication. I suppose you can grease the axis with Vaseline, pure without tinctures, additives, sold in pharmacies. Slightly lubricate the inside of the stuffing box and the axle bushing. I think this is the most harmless lubricant in this case for a bread machine, since it is used in medicine, non-toxic as machine oils. Well, after lubrication in a week, a month or two, disassemble and check how the vazhelin maintains a high temperature under the oil seal, whether it has dried out quickly or leaked out from below. So far, that I cannot recommend another lubricant, food lubricants are not sold on sale, unless you ask someone from the food factory where food machines are lubricated.

The bucket contains not a bearing, but a bushing. And a new one flies out because you used it without lubrication. I suppose you can lubricate the axle with Vaseline, pure without tinctures, additives, sold in pharmacies. Slightly lubricate the inside of the stuffing box and the axle bushing. I think this is the most harmless lubricant in this case for a bread machine, since it is used in medicine, non-toxic as machine oils. Well, after lubrication in a week, a month or two, disassemble and check how the vazhelin maintains a high temperature under the oil seal, whether it has dried out quickly or leaked out from below. So far, that I cannot recommend another lubricant, food lubricants are not sold on sale, unless you ask someone from the food factory where food machines are lubricated.

I will say it as an engineer with twenty-five years of experience. What you call a bushing is called a bearing assembly.
I would not recommend lubricating the axle with Vaseline for the following reasons:
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• At an operating temperature of 160 degrees, the medical Vaseline will partly leak out and partly coke the bearing, and not only the upper, but also the lower, in the bread maker itself.
• Petroleum jelly, like any other fat, destroys rubber. At least that's what they say on condom packaging. Consequently, the seals and washers - both in the bucket and in the oven - will last much less after the introduction of the rationalization proposal than they should.
• Bearings with a bronze liner (bushing, if you like) and with the same operating speed as in our device with you usually do not need lubrication. At higher rpm and the temperature mentioned above, the so-called. graphite grease. But this is not our case.
• Vaseline will not protect against leaks
• Even medical petroleum jelly will stink, I'm not sure the bread will still taste good.
• Vaseline will be impossible to remove from all those places where it will be after the first use of the "improved" stove

[2viacher:]

2viacher:
As for the bearing, we will not go deep and distract from the main topic. I will just write the last sentence on this matter, the words Bearing and bushing, immediately explain in a differentiated way what it is about, for all of us without technical education, bearings are understood with balls, And the bushing emphasizes that there are no balls and sliding on the bushing ..
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Honey products, gloves and presses, as well as similar products are made from latex, natural rubber. Therefore, some fatty substances can spoil, but not all fats / oils.
The stuffing box is in a bucket, hardly rubber / latex. Rather from artificially synthesized material.
Lubricate with Vaseline - I say a little, not so that it drips, but slightly. Although at first I will try to lubricate myself when I get the oil seal, and then I will describe the result, I will simply not argue theoretically in the air.
Vaseline recommended not to protect against leaks, it will not fix the leak, but preventively - to slide the axis along the oil seal, well, along the bushing, the hole rubs heavily into the dry oil seal and wears out - expanding. In general, I'll try it myself and then share my impressions and practice.
Just remembering the very beginning:
first time using the bread maker:
- it was felt that there was some kind of grease under the oil seal, and the axis was also missed, but after 4-5 months it was felt that the axis began to rotate gradually tightly, the further the tighter.
I think that after 4 months, the grease that had already boiled away, it became dry at the places of friction, after a month or three the oil seal was already worn out until it already slightly passes moisture and the rest of the contents under the edge of the oil seal, and after that the wear process takes a week went quickly.
I just can’t understand how I at that time didn’t insist to disassemble and clean this unit in time. He was busy, on business trips, did not follow, and his family silently finished off ...
And now it's late, unrecoverable without replacing the oil seal

This is how the oil seal on Kenwood looks like, pressed against a metal frame.

Bearings are available in ball, roller, needle, and bronze liners. In the latter case, at such speeds, lubrication is not needed for bronze, the smallest particles of bronze play the role of lubricant. This is such a funny bearing
In the beginning, your bearing was not only new, but also clean inside, so the shaft rotated smoothly as if it were lubricated. After the product has got into the bearing and coked up there, accelerated wear begins. If this happens, it means that the oil seal no longer holds and it is time to change it. Otherwise, you will have to sort out and clean the bearing after almost every loaf to reduce wear, which will also not benefit the bearing.
If the shaft and bushing are worn out, it may turn out that replacing the oil seal with a new one will not help - that's what I wanted to say.
If you want to experiment - for God's sake, the stove is yours, the time is also yours. Personally, I prefer not to invent rationalization proposals, but to cook bread. But as a techie, I remind you that Vaseline is used for other purposes. Graphite goes to bronze bearings

[viacher]

viacher, yes, judging by the part of a similar circuit for Hitachi HB-E303, number 6 on my HB-C103 is exactly the oil seal.

Parts list for Hitachi HB-E303 schematic fragment:

4 - mixing blade
5 - handle
6 - bread pan ass'y (the bucket itself, in the assembly - with all the shaft details you mentioned)
7 - packing ass'y (gland-seal, also assembled - apparently, just complete with a metal clamping ring, etc)
58 - rubber paking (rubber ring-gasket) - just in case, I looked at the bottom of my stove - yes, as if it were

Ivan , but what is in your container number 60?

60 - upper bread pan ass'y

If this last picture is a schematic from model 303?, Or the file is signed incorrectly 301 ?. Maybe the very first scheme was from the 303rd?
If the oil seal No. 6 was in the previous diagram-picture, then according to this diagram it was already No. 7.
Part No. 60 It's not very clear, I haven't seen anything like this separately in the kit. Unless, of course, they did not designate the inner lining-chamber in the stove itself, although it is not very similar in size. Perhaps this additional thing is put on the top of the bucket or in the girth of the bucket, which is not provided in the kit, it can only in Japan.
English-Russian translators translate this phrase [upper bread pan ass'y] as: I will give two translation samples, 1- [top tray of ass'y bread], 2-[top pan of bread ass'y]. Let's go on
Perhaps this is some kind of bucket extension or something from old models.

I will try to actually take a picture of the disassembled bucket in detail, number it and put it here.

60 - upper bread pan ass'y

I have one in the 301st stove. Placed on top when baking an extra large loaf. On the latch. There is no such part in the 303rd, and it does not even fit the 303rd in size. Bucket designs are slightly different.
assy is an abbreviation for the word assembled, this is when a part consists of several parts.
upper bread pan assy - the upper part of the assembled bread bucket.

I want to warn you about one nuance. Each spare part has its own code number, numbers and letters like BPA-303 (I said this at random, for example). This code in the order is the most important, since the services supplying spare parts never read the texts of the orders - they read the codes. If you just write, send a pier, pliz, pan assy for my favorite stove, it is possible that you may be sent the wrong model. Therefore, before finalizing your order, please check this code. Otherwise, you won't prove anything later. Buckets from 103rd, 303rd and 301st are different!

[viacher]

viacher, yes, all these codes are in another part of the file, everything is in order
Thanks a lot for clarifying about the models!
I have already informed the service that the diagram is not from the correct model; we are waiting for their response.

I have one in the 301st stove. Placed on top when baking an extra large loaf. On the latch. There is no such part in the 303rd, and it does not even fit the 303rd in size. Bucket designs are slightly different.
Buckets from 103rd, 303rd and 301st are different!

How much is an extra large bread?
And your old stove? Structurally, it is closer in size to which stove, to 103 or 303?
I assume that the bucket is as from 103rd in volume, and with an additional "side" insert, it turns as from 303.
So? and the body of the stove is almost like the 303?

How much is an extra large bread?
And your old stove? Structurally, it is closer in size to which stove, to 103 or 303?
I assume that the bucket is as from 103rd in volume, and with an additional "side" insert, it turns as from 303.
So? and the body of the stove is almost like the 303?

Extra large - probably like in 303 (I have both stoves) or a little more, and the height of the bucket with the "side" turns out to be about 15mm higher than the 303 bucket. Buckets are NOT interchangeable. In the 301st there were 4 gradations of size: small, medium, large, and if you attach an additional "formwork", then extra-large. And the 301 itself is larger and more powerful (900 watts versus 720 watts in 303)

[Ruta:]

Ruta:
Is there any news from the s / c. ?

Ivan, hurray! today I received a letter from the service center with a manual specifically for HB-E303.

So, in a similar diagram, the parts for it are numbered as follows:

3 - mixing blade
4 - handle
5 - bread pan ass'y (the bucket itself, in the assembly - with all the shaft details you mentioned)
6 - packing ass'y (gland-seal, also in the assembly - apparently, just complete with a metal clamping ring, etc)
49 - rubber paking (rubber ring-gasket)

there are still long "catalog" codes, but I will not quote them, I will just write it myself.

Trying to order your kit and mine?

[Ruta:]

Ruta: I wrote to you by e-mail.

From me to you plus (+)

[TXT]

Ivan, hurray! today I received a letter from the service center with a manual specifically for HB-E303.

From TXT there was a proposal to put service manuals on the site.
If you do not mind, send a letter with an attachment to info@Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com

People! I have problems with the bucket too. Why did the discussion on the forum stop? Is it possible to buy a bucket for the E-303 in Moscow?

And my stove began to creak during operation ...
Is this the beginning of something terrible?

People! I have problems with the bucket too. Why did the discussion on the forum stop? Is it possible to buy a bucket for the E-303 in Moscow?

Hitachi has a very durable die-cast bucket and is practical.The instructions say that scratches, roughness, abrasions, discoloration, stains, in and on the bucket do not lead to a deterioration in the quality of baking bread. I confirm this by the service life of the stove.
And I recently reread the instructions quite once again about this.

Hitachi has a very durable die-cast bucket and is practical. The instructions say that scratches, roughness, abrasions, discoloration, stains, in and on the bucket do not lead to a deterioration in the quality of baking bread. I confirm this by the service life of the stove.
And I recently reread the instructions quite once again about this.

The bucket is strong - no doubt. The bread maker has been operating for over 7 years. Here the current water and dough leave (flow) out of the bucket when kneading. I do not hope to find an oil seal or a gasket. I want a new bucket or completely replace the lower part of it (if there is anything). Tell me how to be.

And my stove began to creak during operation ...
Is this the beginning of something terrible?

Watch out for the bucket. It describes how and what to do with the mechanism. It's a pity that this forum was found late ..

Hello everyone! Can anyone tell me where you can diagnose the stove in St. Petersburg ??

[About seals.]

I am not familiar with Hitachi stoves, but I think that problems with them can be eliminated.

About seals. Now there are many factories that will manufacture ANY seal to order, on a special CNC lathe. Search the Internet for the ad "any seal made to order". All you need is a drawing of the seal (this is where you will regret that you did not learn drawing well at school).

About lubrication. Search the Internet for the keywords "food lubricants", or "lubricants for the food industry", etc. On my own I will add that they must be silicone (most likely). Most likely, you will be offered to buy a kilogram of lubricant, which is worth the hoo. Ask for the phone number of those who bought this lubricant. Usually, these are bakeries, bakeries, etc. A couple of grams of this same lubricant will give you a beer. High temperature silicone grease is also available on all radio markets. But you need to carefully look at the appointment so that there are no additions of copper and molybdenum. Not only are these additives tasteless, but they are also harmful.

Don't feel like messing around? Don't throw away the stove. Don't waste the planet's resources. Present the stove to those who like to do something with their own hands. Repairing the bucket will not be difficult for him.

Hello dear bakers!
Yesterday they offered a spare container (bucket) for Hitachi for 2000 rubles. and delivery time is 3 months. I think it is expensive and time consuming. I will repair the old bucket using the proposed methods.

[Duduk]

I do not hope to find an oil seal or a gasket.

Duduk,
in my dishwasher, over time, the garbage went away, with which the internal seams of the case were smeared. To prevent steam from escaping through them and not spoiling the internal parts, the master advised me to cover them (seams) with silicone. It is definitely not poisonous, even at high temperatures it does not emit anything harmful. From high temperatures and humidity, about once a year, it starts to peel off, I just tear it off and cover it up again.
I have not really grasped the essence of the discussion of the problem with your bucket - but maybe the same silicone will help you close the "leak" in the bucket? It is sold where all sorts of pribluda for construction and decoration, in such large tubes with tips. Unfortunately, I don't have a tube at hand to tell you the name, but I remember for sure that the silicone is transparent and it is written on the package that it can withstand high humidity.

[Duduk]

Duduk,
It is sold where all sorts of pribluda for construction and decoration, in such large tubes with tips. Unfortunately, I don't have a tube at hand to tell you the name, but I remember for sure that the silicone is transparent and it is written on the package that it can withstand high humidity.

There is also a silicone for "building" aquariums. It's called aqua silicone. Withstands humidity, but I don't know how it relates to high temperatures.