I choose a harvester, blender, processor

To tell the truth, I don't know what conclusions can be drawn here. As my grandmother used to say, even if you call it a pot, don't put it in the oven. Basically, if people make good things, then what difference does it make where they are produced.

Sorry, but this is purely soviet mentality. In any other civilized country, this could not be. And we will eat and swallow everything - if only it is fried and steamed.

Indeed, some don't care about it. I don't.

Sorry, but this is purely soviet mentality. In any other civilized country, this could not be. And we will eat and swallow everything - if only it is fried and steamed.

Indeed, some don't care about it. I don't.

Agree. This is cheating and must be punished. Even for 100,000 rubles. But if there is one decree, there may be others behind it. Because we have such "cheaters", starting from Bergoff, Winzer and Röndel and ending with Gipfel, Whiteess, Bergner. And these are just “dishware” brands.

I also know that Vitek is also a Russian brand, the product is made in China.

Sorry, but this is purely soviet mentality.
Indeed, some don't give a damn about it. I don't.

And as for me, it is the pursuit of the brand that is the scoop in its purest form. But my personal opinion, I do not insist on his exceptional loyalty.
In general, where they started, they returned to that. How many people, so many opinions, and everyone is free to choose according to their own understanding.

[the consumer will be able to make an informed choice]

Sorry, but this is purely soviet mentality. In some other civilized country, this could not be. And we all grab it - if only it was fried and steamed.

Indeed, some don't care about it. I don't.

Well, why do we eat everything. If I have an excellent product, like German, well, okay. And if the company is ruined by fines, then people will not receive this cool product. And if I were the owner of the company, I would never be called Russia or Ukraine either. Even though it sounds unpatriotic. Business is business and nowadays the truth about domestic origin is like a funeral. And they do it, they hide it. Our people have the words GERMAN QUALITY since the post-war times for many decades - this is the truth. Therefore, everyone clings to it. But the fact that the consumer will be able to make an informed choice, so I beg you, he will not be able to do anything, if they blow advertising into his ears, then he will buy.

I will add. A conscious choice can be when someone has already acquired a technique and has been using it for some time. I was satisfied, I shared my opinion with other people. Then this is a deliberate choice. For example, how I bought a multicooker: I knew that it was China, but I also knew that many thousands of people had already used it before me, and there were practically no complaints about the cartoon. In such cases, China does not scare me. If only not China
But if the device has not yet been tested by anyone, under an unknown brand, and the country of origin is declared Ukraine ... I would not buy it without reviews. And it is quite possible that this would turn out to be a mistake, because the device is conscientiously assembled from the highest quality materials, its own development is very wonderful, and the price with these advantages is very attractive. But even if I did, it would not be a conscious choice. It would be "maybe" in its purest form.
Taking China (not to be confused with China!), I practically do not risk it. All of these vaunted brands are made there, in the same factories. The only difference is in the sticker, the devices themselves are often made not in neighboring factories, but in the same workshop from the same materials according to the same schemes as the branded ones.But the soviet mentality forces people to rush to the iconic name, paying exorbitant prices for practically the same product that is sold cheaply under a dissonant name.
But in general, it has been spoken and negotiated on this topic to a fig and more, but things are still there: everyone remained at his own opinion. So why pay more useless to shake the air? I propose to close the discussion due to its absolute indecision. Peace, friendship, general well-being

Azazusha, I'm always for, you know!

I propose an alternative: I bought a Panasonic cartoon when I went to rest in Tai (made there). With English buttons, it cost 2090 baht (= rubles), and with Thai buttons - 1400. We, like, - 5.5tr.

Lucky, this is called to combine business with pleasure. Enjoy your stay!

For the wish of the Union of Right Forces, but this is already in the past. I'm just sharing my experience - we can, who will come in handy. There were also waffle makers for Belgian waffles for 350 baht - we have obviously 3 times more expensive. I didn’t buy, because I was worried that there would be an overweight - I have an eternal problem.

Taking China (not to be confused with China!), I practically do not risk it. All of these vaunted brands are made there, in the same factories. The only difference is in the sticker, the devices themselves are often made not in neighboring factories, but in the same workshop from the same materials according to the same schemes as the branded ones.

This is not so dumb. There are factories in China built by Panasonic, DeLonghi-Kenwood, the SEB group ... that's where products with these brands are made and no other "yum-yum Uncle Von" products are produced. Unless there is an interesting contract for placing an OEM order. This "sin" almost all except
Panasonic. And Russian non-names are ordered at small semi-handicraft factories there and "quality" and smelly plastic emitting phenols and formaldehydes and savings on everything that is possible and a complete lack of control. And what, as the new Russian businessmen say, "people hawala". People wants it to be "cheaper at any cost" - "we will give it to them"

[sazalexter]

I fully agree with the position sazalexter... For those who are especially distrustful, I can show you photographs of the insides of a Chinese noname mixer (I broke it myself, I took a picture myself) and a video of a mixer disassembly from the Bosch company. Those who understand will immediately see the difference in the quality of all elements, in design, in execution. And let others be in the rosy delusion that everything is done in the same factories from the same materials.

[sazalexter]

"cheaper at any cost"

thought ... 🔗

In general, I came to this topic to say thank you, sazalexterincluding Now I have a blender and a cutter-beater-shredder in one device: Bosch 5529 (cube). The problem of choice is no longer worth it. It was difficult to convince my toad, but I dealt with it in a few months. Now I have a wonderful food processor

I can't master the whole topic, so I decided to ask ... I want a combine in which the following functions are desirable / obligatory -
1. kneading dough
2.High-quality feeding of proteins
3.a good chopping knife
4.shredder of different thickness
5.coarse and fine graters
6. ice pick
7.French fries attachment
8.juicer
9. citrus press

no meat grinder needed at all!

I will be grateful for the tips, otherwise everything is already spinning my head.

for cubes and small volumes I decided to buy a Philips blender

I can't master the whole topic, so I decided to ask ... I want a harvester in which the following functions are desirable / required ...

Well, why not take Bosch 5529 right away (see the page Bosch food processor - cuts into cubes)? There is a video there, and you can also search for videos on YouTube. Of the above, I didn’t have time to try chopping ice in a blender and whipping whites, and also until I bought a french fries attachment. The juicer is unlikely to be combined with a whisk and shredder ... but this model has a citrus juicer.

Well, why not take Bosch 5529 right away (see the page Bosch food processor - cuts into cubes)? There is a video there, and you can also search for videos on YouTube. Of the above, I didn’t have time to try chopping ice in a blender and whipping whites, and also until I bought a french fries attachment. The juicer is unlikely to be combined with a whisk and shredder ... but this model has a citrus juicer.

I read that they have frequent breakdowns :(
in addition, I would like to have a juicer, because if hidden, then we practically do not use it. Besides Bosch is rather big for my kitchen .. now I choose between Philips HR7775 and Kenwood FP 270. I would like to hear about them +/-.
Or maybe something else similar tell me

I read that they have frequent breakdowns :(
in addition, I would like to have a juicer, because if hidden, then we practically do not use it. Besides Bosch is rather big for my kitchen .. now I choose between Philips HR7775 and Kenwood FP 270. I would like to hear about them +/-.
Or maybe something else similar tell me

We will give you a hint. Brown!

The Kenwoods have cutting quality issues. Non-rubbed pieces fall into the rubbed mass. In addition, there are few service centers.
The chosen Phillips seems to be good. But too expensive. But it will be easier to beat the whites with a mixer. If beating and dough is a priority, look towards BOSH MUM. But there is no universal juicer

We will give you a hint. Brown!

The Kenwoods have cutting quality issues. Non-rubbed pieces fall into the rubbed mass. In addition, there are few service centers.
The chosen Phillips seems to be good. But too expensive. But it will be easier to beat the whites with a mixer. If beating and dough is a priority, look towards BOSH MUM. But there is no universal juicer

understandable .. means kenwood disappears.
I bake very rarely now, just because of the lack of a combine :) I used to bake much more often - the branded Prague tori and charlotte. That is, where good whipping is needed. I looked at the mumas, but again, take it and the juicer - there is nowhere to put it, and there are no lockers in which to store either :(

And now a parsing of your requests:

1. kneading dough - Bosch MUM or stationary mixer. If yeast, then the most inexpensive bread maker.
2.High-quality whipping of whites - manual or stationary mixer or BOSCH MUM
3.a good chopping knife - hand blender with large bowl (1.5L) or food processor with bowl + utility knives
4. Shredder of different thickness - prepare to be disappointed. The pieces are not perfect, there are residues that are not rubbed.
5. coarse and fine graters - mentally prepare for disappointment. Non-rubbed remains. Bosch's graters are stupid. Large is too large, small is too small. For julienne - the wrong section (it turns out too tough carrots or beets).
The ideal grater for the Philips 7605 mini-harvester. The same is in their submersible blenders, and probably it is the same in all Philips harvesters. Brown seems to have the correct grater sizes. I didn't use it myself, I can't say.
6. Chopping ice - even a plastic stationary blender from BOSCH MUM can handle this. I don't know about others.
7. French fries attachment - curved pieces are provided for you. The knife will turn out more beautifully and evenly.
8. The juicer is better separate. As part of the combines - this is a fake. There is a lot of cake, it is too wet.
9. citrus press - hand-made wooden contraption better squeezes.

Total: you need to have several different devices that complement each other functionally. I have a BOSCH MUM 4655 + a hand blender Brown 530 + a Philips 7605 mini-combine.

If you buy a stationary or hand mixer, then a submersible blender with a chopper and a mini-combine are enough for my daily needs. I can do without BOSH MUM 4655

I don't know your food production volumes. For a family of 2-3 people, the Brown 550 or 570 + hand blender is sufficient. Here you and graters with shredders, chopping, grinding. For dough - mixer. For chopping ice, you can buy a special bowl for the blender (as in Brown 540).

Think, count. Good luck!

[Anny]

Anny, you wrote this about my combine.
Only his power is not 800, but 900.
Nothing is leaking from me, as it says there, perhaps the silicone gasket is not washed or something else. I have never used a juicer, because there is a separate one. You can still grind berries in it. A smart mixer in it - squirrels in seconds. Thick dough on dumplings - a minute. But I like to make yeast and on pies-vertuts in a bread maker. And my daughter, looking at me, also bought herself exactly the same. The meat grinder, of course, is weak, but I rarely use it.

I don’t know: pardon: there are no such complaints against Bosch, although I also have Kenwood, which, of course, is insanely happy

And no one has dealt with such a thing - REDMOND RFP-3903? The description is very good, frankly, but I did not deal with the equipment of this brand.

about Bosch grates - a large one can always be pressed in a vice between two sheets of plywood in size. the slices will not be oval, but slightly square - but the size is good. albeit normal

I am looking for SOMETHING - for chopping, grating, shredding.
I have a Bosch MUM 4, in which I once broke a grating nozzle, trying to "chop" sausage - I used it as a slicer. But I bought a chopper with a screw knife and graters for it. Somehow not very convenient - there are few nozzles, it costs very high - it is installed on top of the combine.
I would like something else to grind. For cubes, as I understand it, only Bosch cube and Philips blender. I'm also going to buy a blender, but the price of a Phillips is quite high. Tell me.

I suggest. Philips 7605. Prices from 433 UAH and above
Knives can chop onions, herbs, tomatoes, meat, chicken fillets, crackers and even make dough for cookies or pies. Volume 1.5 liters. The power is 350 W, but it is enough for most operations.

Disadvantages: leaves more residues than Bosch MUM, washing is sometimes dreary, especially after rubbing carrots. Sometimes there is not enough power or you want a big bowl. But for this really ridiculous money - the perfect device. The Bosch 4020 mixer costs the same as this combine.

It contains universal knives, three graters (shredder, grater, for potato pancakes) and an emulsifier disc. Now I get Bosch MUM on very big holidays (when I make biscuit dough). I grind and shred everything in Philips, I grind it in a submersible Brown C530. Bosch MUM 4 in combination with these two units make the perfect company.

But you can make it even easier - buy Brown C550 or 570. You will have a blender leg, a whisk, a small chopper (as you wanted), a large 1.5 liter bowl with 5 graters, and utility knives. Brown C550 costs from UAH 848 and above. And compare with the prices for Kenwood 724 (from UAH 754 and above).

You can buy a Dex 571 blender (from 248 UAH and more) and a Philips 7605 combine. In total, spend 433 + 248 = 681 UAH. How do you like this decision?

[Redmond RFP-3903]

So I decided to buy a blender. The only thing that I found with decent revs and all the accessories is Redmond RFP-3903... Judging by the characteristics (power, smooth speed control) there should be no gearbox,
people complain about the erasure of some (I could not find pictures) gears. If anyone in the know, please clarify the situation, otherwise I really would not want to buy for that kind of money an actually disposable device that cannot be changed, because I can only buy it through and-no.
Reason for editing: active links to external resources are FORBIDDEN!

[Redmond RFP-3903]

So I decided to buy a blender. The only thing that I found with decent revs and all the accessories is Redmond RFP-3903... Judging by the characteristics (power, smooth speed control) there should not be a gearbox, but here
people complain about the erasure of some (I could not find pictures) gears. If anyone in the know, please clarify the situation, otherwise I really would not want to buy for that kind of money an actually disposable device that cannot be changed, because I can only buy it through and-no.

The gears are the reducer in the bowl lid. And they dry themselves off. If you have money, buy Bamix better. It really is a thing.I don't know anything about Redmond, but the bowls look like a Brown clone, and the motor part looks like a clone of the latest Phillips mugs.

Well, I don't know about Bamix. Now I looked at the "market" - the power of 200 W is one hundred pounds on the shaft, which means the "gearbox" is in the housing and if the gears located in the cover / nozzle can still be somehow reanimated (pour / grind), then in this situation there is only one option - in the trash. Only two speeds, and not specified, and the price is high. I would have something more powerful (> = 1000 W) and faster (> = 17000 rpm), and if with a gearbox, then with a metal one. In general, so that a leg of lamb is completely covered in dust and no more than 6,000 rubles.

just the speed of bamix 200 (one of two) - 17,000

I have an old 400-watt brown and it definitely won't cope with ice picking (he doesn't grind the meat at all), so I don't understand how the bamix does it with the declared power of 140 watts?

I have a Brown Multiquick with a capacity of 600, also chops ice and chops meat.
But bamix 200 is really much more powerful, I see it from the same type of work. And it runs quieter and grinds better and faster

For a shredder with the function of grinding meat, it is recommended to buy a bamix of at least 160, and better than 200

Damn, I've already shoveled so much information, the Moscow will soon boil. I'm thinking, maybe I can take "Philips HR 1372" - there are not many negative reviews, and there is an opportunity to buy in the store, that is, to change it under warranty if anything. True, there are also problems with plastic gears, but along the way it is a disease of all submersible blenders. The idea is that when the chopper is bent, you can use this blender with a whisk, and buy a stationary one for chopping. What can you say about such a plan.

Damn, I've already shoveled so much information, the Moscow will soon boil. I'm thinking, maybe I can take "Philips HR 1372" - there are not many negative reviews, and there is an opportunity to buy in the store, that is, to change it under warranty if anything. True, there are also problems with plastic gears, but along the way it is a disease of all submersible blenders. The idea is that when the chopper is bent, you can use this blender with a whisk, and buy a stationary one for chopping. What can you say about such a plan.

Take Bamix if finances allow. You will certainly not regret such a purchase. There's a ten year or so engine warranty. Swiss made. Let the owners tell.

Everything else is low-power units that should work no more than 30 seconds. Beat something decent with a whisk. Only cream or a couple of eggs per omelet. That is, it will not function as a hand mixer.

I would recommend Brown, if only because you can buy any spare parts for it at a reasonable price if something goes wrong. That is, the services sell both lids for bowls, and separately the motor part, and additional knives. Well, you get the idea. You can buy it from Philips, but the price will be exorbitant, I learned in my city. It's cheaper to buy a new blender than to buy a new Phillips dip bowl.

If you cannot make a decision, give yourself a break, in a couple of days all the information in your head will be decomposed into shelves and the decision will come by itself.

You need a harvester (shredder, grater, kneading not yeast dough). Looked at Kenwood FP 250. What do you recommend?

Damn, I've already shoveled so much information, the Moscow will soon boil. I'm thinking, maybe I can take "Philips HR 1372" - there are not many negative reviews, and there is an opportunity to buy in the store, that is, to change it under warranty if anything. True, there are also problems with plastic gears, but along the way it is a disease of all submersible blenders. The idea is that when the chopper is bent, you can use this blender with a whisk, and buy a stationary one for chopping. What can you say about such a plan.

No negative reviews? !!! I have them!
I have such a mixer. These stupid cups are so flimsy made, or rather, the transfers in them, that they broke very quickly. It is no longer possible to grind or mix in them. Now I use only a whisk and a "leg".And what to do with the containers, I don’t put my mind to it - and it’s a pity to throw it away, and they take a place in vain.

[Tusya]

You need a harvester (shredder, grater, kneading not yeast dough). Looked at Kenwood FP 250. What do you recommend?

Tusya, ask manna about bamix
I understood so much, the core of shredders and graters, she also perfectly manages to knead the dough with them

No negative reviews? !!! I have them!
I have such a mixer. These stupid cups are so flimsy made, or rather, the transfers in them, that they broke very quickly. It is no longer possible to grind or mix in them. Now I use only a whisk and a "leg". And what to do with the containers, I won't put my mind to it - and it's a pity to throw it away, and they take a place in vain.

Yes ? and I like my Filipki more than Kesha. Including shredders and small and large from 1377.

[Catwoman,]

Catwoman, I meant this particular Philips HR 1372 model. The blender itself works great, but the accessories are covered with a copper basin. This is partly why I am afraid to buy a new Philips with a cube. I'm afraid the connections are flimsy there again ...

[Tusya]

Tusya, ask manna about bamix
I understood so much, the core of shredders and graters, she also perfectly manages to knead the dough with them

Our town is small, the choice is limited. I choose from what is - Braun CombiMax K 700, Kenwood FP 250, VITEK VT-1618 and Bosch (who cuts into cubes).

Our town is small, the choice is limited. I choose from what is - Braun CombiMax K 700, Kenwood FP 250, VITEK VT-1618 and Bosch (who cuts into cubes).

Brown is a good choice. The small chopper in it will save you the hassle of buying a hand blender with chopper.
Bosch is also a great option. Cubes are the dream of many housewives. There's also a puree attachment (if I'm not mistaken) and a citrus juicer.

Good day ! I am looking for gears for Bosch Mum 4756 (any of the Fours will do). If anyone has already bought - advise where in Moscow is not too expensive. Or buy someone who is lying around.

Our town is small, the choice is limited. I choose from what is - Braun CombiMax K 700, Kenwood FP 250, VITEK VT-1618 and Bosch (who cuts into cubes).

there are leading online stores with delivery to the regions. Here Zvezda ordered an ice cream maker from Moscow, there are also bamixes
But this, of course, if there is a desire not to limit yourself to the scope of what is on sale locally.

If you cannot make a decision, give yourself a break, in a couple of days all the information in your head will be decomposed into shelves and the decision will come by itself.

Something I already start to lose the desire to buy something. Realizing that submersible is not an option at all, I sat looking for a hospital. But as it turned out, there is also an ambush here - not only is there a plastic transmission on most models (I was looking for it through Yandex-market), but there is also a problem with the engines - a few desatk seconds and a puff, and it seems out of fashion to put protection against overload now, although if you believe "Market", this is present in "Bimatek BL400" and there are iron giblets, but a lot of dirt is pouring in the direction of "Bork / Bimatek" (I suspect that for a reason). Actually, I just want to decide whether it is worth wasting time shoveling tons of information on the Internet, or just to score on this venture with a blender. It is difficult for me to operate with specific figures due to the lack of practice in using the discussed product, so I will explain it as best I can. I remember watching the bourgeois horror movie "American Werewolf in Paris". So, in one episode, a girl puts a raw beef heart into the subject and it instantly turns into an "appetizing" thick slurry in real-time, while the smoke from the device does not go. Judging by the reviews in the internet, in all blenders, including called brands, it is safe to grind only water, and even then not for long. In appearance and high-speed characteristics (1000 - 20,000 rpm, smooth adjustment) I really liked the "Stadler Form SFB.7500", but the specification says that you cannot keep it switched on in the load for more than 30 seconds. at low speeds and 2 min. on high, although the motor there is not "noname", but some kind of "Johnson Motors" with a 5-year warranty, but, along the way, the usual Chinese bullshit is very offensive. Really there is not a single blender model ("Vitamax" and "Blendtek" do not count, because the prices are astronomical) with a more or less decent engine, with protection against overheating and overload and metal internals, or I'm looking in the wrong place. By the way, for the third year already I have been mowing grass for some wed.rushko-Chinese trimmer with a 1 kW engine, in series of 20 minutes, or even more, in the heat, the grass is waist-deep, I hear the engine tearing, but oddly enough, nothing overheats, and when the ropes / wires are wound , just turns off - unwound and further. In general, some kind of incomprehensible situation with these your blenders, even thoughts of a worldwide conspiracy come

Stationary blenders are designed exclusively for mixing and whipping liquids. The minced meat is crushed by a chopper, i.e. a device in the form of a bowl with universal knives. But he does not grind tendons, like bones. Grind the raw liver. I won't tell you about raw hearts, because I have never ground them.

You started looking on the wrong side. Tell us exactly what you are going to do. And then you will be advised a suitable unit.

[FalseMaster]

FalseMaster I want to disappoint you, metal gearboxes are not being installed in household appliances now, it is not economically profitable, the exception is the Panasonic A meat grinder regarding engine cooling, in all serious stationary combines it is air and forced, which allows using the unit not for 30 seconds, but for a long time.

You started looking on the wrong side.

Apparently yes, if

Stationary blenders are designed exclusively for mixing and whipping liquids.

I need a device for converting an organic substance from a solid to a pasty state, regardless of its origin. For example: kefir + fruit -> yogurt, boiled liver -> pate, raw meat -> minced meat.

But he does not grind tendons, like bones.

And that grinds - after all, they make sausage somehow. Maybe you just need a more powerful and faster unit. Feels like 20 Nm (torque on the shaft of a cheap shura) at 20,000 rpm would be enough to turn bones into flour. But I would be quite satisfied if the device at least did not fail.

metal gearboxes are not installed in household appliances now

Where does the information come from, if not a secret. I just want to see for myself this blatant disgrace.

And about engine cooling, ...

Well, the implementation of cooling somehow does not bother me much (the main thing is that it works), I would like to have protection for current and overheating.

And who told you that the composition of homemade sausage contains ground bones? Before chopping, meat is always cut from the bones, films and tendons are removed.

Total:
1. kefir + fruit -> yogurt - stationary blender (separate or as part of a food processor). An alternative is a chopper or metal leg of a hand blender. The output of each unit will be different.
2. boiled liver -> pate - electric meat grinder as a separate device or as part of a combine. An alternative is a chopper from a hand blender, a chopper as a separate device, a bowl with universal knives.
3. raw meat -> minced meat - two knives and chop by hand. Electric meat grinder or chopper. The result in all three cases will be different.

Only plastic gearboxes are really installed in household appliances intended for home use. There are several reasons - cost reduction, weight reduction, and noise reduction during operation. I have a Bosch MUM 4655 combine with plastic gearboxes for 8 years. And alive, today I was twisting tomatoes from him in a meat grinder.

[sazalexter]

Where does the information come from, if not a secret. I just want to see for myself this blatant disgrace. H

sazalexter - service technician. He has a real opportunity to make sure of this for you.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, since you are an experienced person and have seen the insides of household appliances, can you tell me which mixer is better to choose? Maybe you know whether Bosch 3010 and Bosch 3530 have the same number of rim revolutions or not? The powers are different (300 and 450 watts, respectively), but people say that the corollas rotate at the same speed. Or maybe it's better to buy a Panasonic 200 W mixer? Tell me if you can.

Do Bosch 3010 and Bosch 3530 have the same number of rim revolutions or not? Different powers (300 and 450 W respectively)

There is no official information about the rotational speed, 301X two high-speed, 302x-303X four high-speed, 35XX five high-speed. There is little information about Panasonic, this is a novelty and a new direction of the company, I can only say that it is five-speed

There is no official information about the rotational speed, 301X two high-speed, 302x-303X four high-speed, 35XX five high-speed. There is little information about Panasonic, this is a novelty and a new direction of the company, I can only say that it is five-speed

I am aware of the number of speeds I was hoping that you saw the insides and can tell you something besides the official version

And who told you that the composition of homemade sausage contains ground bones?

I was referring to the store, which just consists of bone meal, films, tendons, skins and other byaki. But what is interesting is that the final product, aka sausage, has a very homogeneous structure, which means there are aggregates that do not burn out or fall apart during its preparation.

Total: (1,2,3)

I wanted one device for everything and for a long time, because all three points imply the processing of soft foods, but apparently the narrow-eyed yellow-bellied inventors of disposable devices think differently.

Only plastic gearboxes are really installed in household appliances intended for home use.

sazalexter is a service provider. He has a real opportunity to make sure of this for you.

Okay, they persuaded. Yes, I myself do not really believe in a-no scribble.

In general, I drew conclusions and made a decision - I will buy the first cheap (1.5 - 2 tons) with a glass bowl in the store, because it is stupid to overpay several times for a couple of thousand revolutions and the shape of the case, especially via the Internet. Thank you all - saved from losing money.