I choose a harvester, blender, processor

I was referring to the store, which just consists of bone meal, films, tendons, skins and other byaki. But what is interesting is that the final product, aka sausage, has a very homogeneous structure, which means there are aggregates that do not burn out and do not fall apart during its preparation.

There are industrial multikilovat cutters, so they thresh frozen meat

I read that they have frequent breakdowns :(
in addition, I would like to have a juicer, because if hidden, then we practically do not use it. Besides Bosch is rather big for my kitchen .. now I choose between Philips HR7775 and Kenwood FP 270. I would like to hear about them +/-.
Or maybe something else similar tell me

After long ordeals and choice, I finally settled on Philips HR7775.
Especially thanks to the photo store, where I bought it much cheaper than elsewhere.

From the required requirements for the combine:
1. kneading dough
2.High-quality feeding of proteins
3.a good chopping knife
4.shredder of different thickness
5.coarse and fine graters
6. ice pick
7.French fries attachment
8.juicer
9. citrus press

In this I am very pleased with the juicer, citrus press, shredder, whipping and kneading the dough, although I beat and kneaded only 1 time, perhaps I did not notice all the nuances.
Graters are somehow too small, a little larger is missing.
The nozzle for French fries is, of course, a separate song :) It is better not to rub any potatoes with it for fries, but it is ideal for cutting forkoff and beetroot for borscht and other dishes where small pieces are needed, and not grated products.
The juicer advertises that you can juice whole apples.
I didn't get whole ones, but the juice turns out very quickly!
It is very easy to disassemble and wash, which is important for me! + takes up little space permanently on the work surface compared to other models and brands.
So, despite the shortcomings, I am very happy with the choice!

If someone has the problem of choosing between a mixer, a harvester and a food processor, it is definitely better to choose a harvester (subject to the availability of space, because all harvesters, as a rule, are very cumbersome and heavy. every time you need help ... The harvester should be visible by default, but the attachments for it are another story). As an option, you can consider Bosch MUM 52131 - it will mix, and beat the proteins with creams, and rub / cut / chop, and knead the dough in particular.
In general, as for me, for whipping and kneading dough, it is better to purchase a stationary mixer if there is no bread machine. Because it is quite problematic to knead the dough with a hand mixer (it takes a lot of time, the hand gets tired of constantly pressing the button and kneading the elastic dough, and it turns out to be tight in the end), although it is theoretically possible. It's the same story with proteins - whipping with a hand mixer is possible, but not very convenient. With a stationary, everything is much easier - turn it on and do another thing
If the house has a bread machine, a hand mixer will be enough for creams and proteins - it is more compact than a stationary one.
Well, for slicing with a grater / shredder of products, it is better to purchase a food processor that is not as bulky as a combine (a small chopper would be ideal). If its work is unnecessary, it is easier to hide it in a locker without much effort)
That is, if possible, purchase everything separately for a specific task. Because the harvester does not always do well with different functions, but, as a rule, only with one. All the rest are already limping in practice ...
I wish you all a good choice

Good bread! A question for the owners of Bosch MUM 4 ... - what is the dough hook scraper for and is it possible to do without it? Thanks for attention.

Good bread! A question for the owners of Bosch MUM 4 ... - what is the dough hook scraper for and is it possible to do without it? Thanks for attention.

This contraption inhibits soft dough, which, when kneaded, can wrap around the hook, and does not allow it to go higher.

Hello everybody. Can someone help ... I want to buy a harvester with a good dough mixer, so that I can knead the tough dough (I have problems with weak wrists, I can't knead), so that the dough sheeter can be connected (for me, a very necessary thing). In principle, nothing else is needed. Please advise good models in any price category.

Girls help with the choice.
A good mixer-kneader is very necessary (within 300u. E).
The problem is this:
1) there is a very powerful meat grinder (moulinex for 1000w)
2) there is a blender (braun for 600w)
3) multifunctional grater (tescoma - rub with any pieces)
Therefore, I do not need a combine.
What to do???
I was completely confused
HELP ANYONE !!!

Girls help with the choice.
A good mixer-kneader is very necessary (within 300u. E).
The problem is this:
1) there is a very powerful meat grinder (moulinex for 1000w)
2) there is a blender (braun for 600w)
3) multifunctional grater (tescoma - rub with any pieces)
Therefore, I do not need a combine.
What to do???
I was completely confused
HELP ANYONE !!!

Do you need a kneader for yeast dough or not? How much will you knead? If for different types of dough and for large volumes, you can immediately swing at Kitchen Aid.

Kitchen Aid is too cool (almost $ 1000) !!!

I'm going to knead for a large family (5 adults), stable 2 times a week.
The dough is different ...

[Irinka-harm]

Irinka-harm , for dough mixers, we have a topic here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

Although you don't need any pribluda, girls from ukraine praise this one: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

Kitchen Aid is too cool (almost $ 1000) !!!

I'm going to knead for a large family (5 adults), stable 2 times a week.
The dough is different ...

Well then ... Or order Kitchen Aid from America and buy a transformer for it, or ...

Buy a food processor of a planetary type (Bosch MUM 8 series or Kenwood Chef).
The third option - a Bosch stationary mixer - do not even consider, because it will not cope with large volumes. These 450-500 watts are "inflated", they didn't even lie there. The mixer will cope with biscuit dough and proteins, with yeast more or less thick - no. I tried, in the end I gave it to the bread maker to knead.
If you don't believe me, trust the Germans. They tested manual email. mixers and stationary. As a result, the stationary BOSCH was rejected because it did not pass the stress test. The attachment point of the bowl has broken.

[Irinka-harm]

Irinka-harm , for dough mixers, we have a topic here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

Although you don't need any pribluda, girls from ukraine praise this one: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

I "squinted" at him ...
But right there on the forum I read that it is better not to take Clatronic ...
So now I doubt what to do

Well then ... Or order Kitchen Aid from America and buy a transformer for it, or ...

Buy a food processor of a planetary type (Bosch MUM 8 series or Kenwood Chef).
The third option - a Bosch stationary mixer - do not even consider, because it will not cope with large volumes. These 450-500 watts are "inflated", they didn't even lie there. The mixer will cope with biscuit dough and proteins, with yeast more or less thick - no. I tried, in the end I gave it to the bread maker to knead.
If you don't believe me, trust the Germans. They tested manual email. mixers and stationary. As a result, the stationary BOSCH was rejected because it did not pass the stress test. The attachment point of the bowl has broken.

I lean towards Kenwood KM 266 or Profi Cook KM 1004 it is cheaper
What do you think???

[Svety-Odessa]

I "squinted" at him ...
But right there on the forum I read that it is better not to take Clatronic ...
So now I doubt what to do

Ask Svety-Odessa, she has one.

I lean towards the Kenwood KM 266 food processor.
What do you think???

I bought it in an online store and handed it back right away.It is flimsy, it shakes in all directions during kneading. I did not like . Doesn't stand up to any comparison with the current K-Mix.

I bought it in an online store and handed it back right away. It is flimsy, it shakes in all directions during kneading. I did not like . Doesn't stand up to any comparison with the current K-Mix.

Who is this beast ???
You can name it in full

I lean towards the Kenwood KM 266 food processor.
What do you think???

I would be careful about any Clatronic technique, there are a lot of negative reviews on the Internet.

As for Kenwood, I would think a hundred times. Not because the equipment is bad, but because there is no service.
Try to find their service centers with us in Kharkov. If it works out and the conditions of service and repair are arranged, then buy. But again ... reviews of the Kenwood service are ambiguous, I read complaints about the quality of the equipment and the service. There is no personal experience of using Kenwood, so I pass it on that I read it.

I have a Bosch MUM 4655. If you have any questions about it, ask.

Yesterday I was kneading yeast dough for them. This can only be done at 1.2 speeds. The harvester creaks and shakes, but kneads without complaint. It turned out very tasty buns.
Beats whites perfectly, whole eggs on a biscuit also beats perfectly.
She made a Swiss meringue in it, whipped up a mass of marshmallows.
It didn't work out with the butter cream, but it was my fault - I chose high speed and the oil was overwhelmed.
I knocked home sour cream into butter with a combine - great!
I made "chopped" dough, when flour and butter are mixed to a crumb state - everything worked out.
The muffin dough was great too.

Who is this beast ???
You can name it in full

That's what it's called

That's what it's called

Handsome, of course, but the price ... 350-400 usd. e. It's a little expensive for me. MAXIMUM 300 USD e

Handsome, of course, but the price ... 350-400 usd. e. It's a little expensive for me. MAXIMUM 300 USD e

Well then, only Bosch MUM 5 series.

Meet the price, and the functions too. There is no meat grinder in them, only a stationary mixer, blender and graters-shredders. In the harvesting season, shredders are very helpful.

Well then, only Bosch MUM 5 series.

Meet the price, and the functions too. There is no meat grinder in them, only a stationary mixer, blender and graters-shredders. In the harvesting season, shredders are very helpful.

Thank you.
At the weekend I go to "touch"
I like BOSCH MUM 54420 more according to its characteristics,
And when working, his bowl (and he himself) does not jump ???

[Irinka-harm]

Irinka-harm Does not jump, the bracket moves slightly, but as Bosch says, this is within normal limits

Thank you.
On the weekend I go to "touch"
I like BOSCH MUM 54420 more according to its characteristics,
And when working, his bowl (and he himself) does not jump ???

Even my Bosch MUM 4655 does not jump. Only my bowl is fixed differently, so not only the paw itself moves slightly, but also the bowl. But that doesn't stop my old man from kneading yeast dough

Keep in mind that there is one difference between 4 and 5 series of MUMs that may seem critical to some. In MUMs 4 series, you can grate and shred directly into a saucepan or any bowl. In MUMs of the 5th series, this will not work, because the shredder does not work without a properly installed bowl.

Thank you!!!
You girls are so smart. They helped me decide what exactly I want. And then my "poor" husband decided that I was going crazy for a whole week sitting at the computer did not know what to choose.
Thanks...
If there is an opportunity I will run out shopping tomorrow, but no - then on the weekend for sure ...

This is the hardest part - catching the right model in the offline store. I sympathize in advance
Feel any model of the MUM 5 series you find. Demand to be turned on. Ask yourself to switch the speeds. Note that the harvester will sound louder at home.

All BOSCH MUM 5 series models are exactly the same.
The differences are minor:
a) power (700 or 900 W);
b) body color (red or different gray options);
c) the method of winding the cord (automatically or manually);
d) equipment (presence or absence of a meat grinder or juicer).
Otherwise, they are completely identical. The attachments in all models are exactly the same. If you are aiming at a 900 W BOSCH MUM 54420, look at analogs with the same power. But even the 700W models will give you a complete picture of what you get.

Good luck. Ask questions, if any.

Good evening!
Today I ran shopping in search of BOSCH MUM 54420 ... NO such miracle in our super-duper stores !!!!
By the way, about the stores -
In Eldorado (and I was in three different ones) one boor generally works ... you can't touch, you can't "sniff", you can't turn on ... nothing at all ... you can only give money ...
There are two old models in Komfi from Boshiks, but Kenwood has the whole assortment
In Techno ... (I don't remember which one is in the Caravan any longer) Bosch is almost all models, but which choice of Bork and Kenwood is already head spinning.
The consultants are just super ... you can do EVERYTHING - "bite, lick, sniff", turn on yourself, click ... in general, everything is possible, but BOSCH MUM 54420 - they (as well as everywhere else) NO !!! It turned out (by common efforts and assumptions) that this model is not supplied to Ukraine.
I'm sitting at home, I'm bored ... I think let me write a letter to the BOSCH representative office in Ukraine asking why we don't have this model. Waiting for an answer. When I get it, I'll copy it and lay it out for you.
Now I will dig in online stores BOSCH MUM 54420.

[Kharkiv]

Now I will dig in online stores BOSCH MUM 54420.

I don't understand
Why dig something, if a few posts above on the list of online stores in Kharkov, where you can buy BOSCH MUM 54420 right now?

Full list Kharkiv stores with phones, links to the store website and relevant prices for the selected model. To the right of the store name and model name is the link buy leads to the store's website (to the item you need).
I hope I explained clearly

[Kharkiv]

I don't understand
Why dig something, if a few posts above I gave a link 🔗 on the list of online stores in Kharkov, where you can buy BOSCH MUM 54420 right now?

Full list Kharkiv stores with phones, links to the store website and relevant prices for the selected model. To the right of the store name and model name is the link buy leads to the store's website (to the item you need).
I hope I explained clearly

Explained clearly.
Personally, I had a sad experience of shopping in online stores. Therefore, I "dig" through the shops verified (personally by me). I would like to buy not a "Vietnamese-Chinese" fake, but a real BOSCH at an affordable price, with a guarantee, service, etc.

I have a Bosch MUM 4655. If you have any questions about it, ask.
I made "chopped" dough, when flour and butter are mixed to a crumb state - everything worked out.

Please tell me, with what attachments and at what speed do you make chopped dough? Is the oil soft or from the refrigerator? Please describe the technology in more detail. I also have a slightly younger Bosch model, I really like working with him, but I never made chopped dough on it - I thought I needed a processor for this.

Please tell me, with what attachments and at what speed do you make chopped dough? Is the oil soft or from the refrigerator? Please describe the technology in more detail. I also have a slightly younger Bosch model, I really like working with him, but I never made chopped dough on it - I thought I needed a processor for this.

If you are talking about shortbread dough, where flour is mixed with hard butter, then I am best able to make it in a blender - very quickly and the main thing is to catch the moment of readiness and not overdo it. Or, if in a bowl, then rub the butter on a grater, and then with a hook. I did that too.

Please tell me, with what attachments and at what speed do you make chopped dough? Is the oil soft or from the refrigerator? Please describe the technology in more detail.I also have a slightly younger Bosch model, I really like working with him, but I never made chopped dough on it - I thought I needed a processor for this.

To obtain the present chopped dough needs a processor with knives and very cold butter, cut into pieces. Bosch MUM can do something similar with a three-twig whisk. Take chilled butter, cut into pieces of 1-2 cm, put in a bowl, add flour and mix with a whisk with three sticks at 2-3 speeds.

I didn’t try it with a blender, but I saw how Y. Vysotskaya did it. These are all options for the lazy. Cold butter and flour can be perfectly made by hand or with two knives. But if the harvester can do the same thing, then why not

[Daffi, Lozja]

Daffi, Lozja , thanks for answers! So I, too, while doing it in the processor with ice butter from the freezer, cut into cubes, but it breathes on my incense Well now if it breaks, then your advice about a whisk with three twigs will just come in handy. And with a submersible or stationary blender to make dough? I don’t quite know how it will turn out to be submersible, but if suddenly it is possible, this is great, I also have a submersible blender!

[Daffi, Lozja]

Daffi, Lozja , thanks for answers! So I, too, while doing it in the processor with ice butter from the freezer, cut into cubes, but it breathes on my incense Well now if it breaks, then your advice about a whisk with three twigs will just come in handy. And with a submersible or stationary blender to make dough? Something I don't quite imagine how it will turn out submersible, but if suddenly it is possible - that's great, I also have a submersible blender!

I think it was about a combine blender, not a submersible. If necessary, do it with your hands - it's quick and easy.

Yes, I can do it with my hands too, but I want to use the capabilities of the existing equipment to the end)))

[Daffi, Lozja]

Daffi, Lozja , thanks for answers! So I, too, while doing it in the processor with ice butter from the freezer, cut into cubes, but it breathes into my mouth Well now if it breaks, then your advice about a whisk with three twigs will just come in handy. And with a submersible or stationary blender to make dough? I don’t quite know how it will turn out to be submersible, but if suddenly it is possible, this is great, I also have a submersible blender!

I was referring to the stationary blender from the combine.

Good evening! So I choose, I look, I look, I touch)))), I lean towards kitchenaid, it's expensive, but I decided if I take it, then for a long time, I like it in many ways, do you have opinions?

Girls, does anyone have a Bosch MUM 4405? He has a power of 500 watts. Is it too small for a test?

or still take the Krups KA9027, confused by the presence of a meat grinder (I don't need it) and a blender (also available), what to choose?

Girls, does anyone have a Bosch MUM 4405? He has a power of 500 watts. Is it too small for a test?

It will not be enough. Take a Bosch model with at least 600 watts.

Girls, does anyone have a Bosch MUM 4405? He has a power of 500 watts. Is it too small for a test?

I have MUM 4406, also 500 watts, kneading the dough. And my x / Panasonic 2502 oven has the same power - Duc kneads the same dough ...

I have a MUM 4406, also 500 watts, kneading the dough. And my x / Panasonic 2502 oven has the same power - Duc kneads the same dough ...

You mean yeast dough? And dumplings, probably not?

I mixed both yeast and dumplings. Only the dumplings are not very steep, I knead: for 200 g of flour - 1 egg and 80 ml of water, salt to taste. You can double everything. According to the instructions, yeast can be kneaded, but dumplings seem to be not, but I knead. I took this harvester because there is what I need and nothing more. I also have a Bosch 5540 and there is almost everything and a power of 1100 watts. And this one, in addition, is just a super-helper.

[Kenwood KM010]

Please tell me what is the difference Kenwood KM010 and Kenwood KMC010 ?
What is the "improvement"? )

At first I wrote in the topic about the Kenwoods, but decided to move here. I have been choosing a harvester for more than a month.There is an opportunity to buy inexpensive clathronic or bomann, but they are not praised. Watched Kenwood KM 266. Suitable for the price, but the reviews are bad. Inside, some plastic nuts break quickly. Nobody will say about the KMX and Kenwood KM 416 models? Or not to steam and buy Bosch 5. The dough should be kneaded no more than 500g. And the Kenwoods seem to mix a small amount badly. Please advise. I will add: Bosch want MUM 54420. Basically I'm interested in kneading, including dumplings, and whipping. Worried about delicate-looking corollas. I like the compactness and small size. I really look forward to advice

At first I wrote in the topic about the Kenwoods, but decided to move here. I have been choosing a harvester for more than a month. There is an opportunity to buy inexpensive clathronic or bomann, but they are not praised. Watched Kenwood KM 266. Suitable for the price, but the reviews are bad. Inside, some plastic nuts break quickly. Nobody will say about the KMX and Kenwood KM 416 models? Or not to steam and buy Bosch 5. The dough should be kneaded no more than 500g. And the Kenwoods seem to mix a small amount badly. Please advise. I will add: Bosch want MUM 54420. Basically I'm interested in kneading, including dumplings, and whipping. Worried about delicate-looking corollas. I like the compactness and small size. I really look forward to advice

BOSCH MUM's corollas are NOT tender, they are normal, quite strong and strong.
I have a BOSH MUM 4655, if that. But I knead the yeast dough with a bread maker, because it's faster and easier. I beat it with a combine, then with a mixer. More interesting with a mixer, easier with a combine

At first I wrote in the topic about the Kenwoods, but decided to move here. I have been choosing a harvester for more than a month. There is an opportunity to buy inexpensive clathronic or bomann, but they are not praised. Watched Kenwood KM 266. Suitable for the price, but the reviews are bad. Inside, some plastic nuts break quickly. Nobody will say about the KMX and Kenwood KM 416 models? Or not to steam and buy Bosch 5. The dough should be kneaded no more than 500g. And the Kenwoods seem to mix a small amount badly. Please advise. I will add: Bosch want MUM 54420. Basically I'm interested in kneading, including dumplings, and whipping. Worried about delicate-looking corollas. I like the compactness and small size. I really look forward to advice

Take a bosch mum 8400, there is a 5.4 liter bowl, the dough kneads a super even large amount, not to mention creams, etc. it has everything durable, no plastic, except for small latches at the bottom of the bowl, powerful

Take a bosch mum 8400, there is a 5.4 liter bowl, the dough kneads a super even large amount, not to mention creams, etc. it has everything durable, no plastic, except for small latches at the bottom of the bowl, powerful

Thanks for the tip, but I don't need a large bowl. I don't mix too much dough

At first I wrote in the topic about the Kenwoods, but decided to move here. I have been choosing a harvester for more than a month. There is an opportunity to buy inexpensive clathronic or bomann, but they are not praised. Watched Kenwood KM 266. Suitable for the price, but the reviews are bad. Inside, some plastic nuts break quickly. Nobody will say about the KMX and Kenwood KM 416 models? Or not to steam and buy Bosch 5. The dough should be kneaded no more than 500g. And the Kenwoods seem to mix a small amount badly. Please advise. I will add: Bosch want MUM 54420. Basically I'm interested in kneading, including dumplings, and whipping. Worried about delicate-looking corollas. I like the compactness and small size. I really look forward to advice

The Kenwoods are very good at kneading a small amount of dough, and they also perfectly beat even 1 protein. I also suffered for a long time with the choice of a food processor - in the end I settled on kenwood km023, although it all started with bosh mum 5, I do not regret my choice a bit.

Kenwoods are very good at kneading a small amount of dough, and they also perfectly beat even 1 protein. I also suffered for a long time with the choice of a food processor - in the end I settled on kenwood km023, although it all started with bosh mum 5, I do not regret my choice a bit.

Yes, I would like Kenwood too.And even already outlined the KM 266. A smaller bowl is also suitable for the price, and it is compact, which is important for me. But the reviews are only negative, they quickly break

Thanks for the tip, but I don't need a large bowl. I don't mix too much dough

So it is not necessary to fill it up to the top. He kneads a small amount well (kneaded at least the dough for 250 ml of liquid), and at least beat the protein cream for 2 proteins.
Now, if the price confuses this is another matter.

[kirch]

Yes, I would like Kenwood too. And even already outlined the KM 266. A smaller bowl is also suitable for the price, and it is compact, which is important for me. But the reviews are only negative, they quickly break

kirch, my first Bosch MCM5540 (1100 watts) has been working flawlessly for 8 years, now I boldly bought MUM4406 (500 watts), also an excellent machine, kneads dough and dumplings, including, and if MUM5, then even more so. The technique is very good and durable. So you can take a closer look at the Boschas and not necessarily with a high price, the plastic is excellent there. I have an eight-year-old harvester in excellent shape and condition.