I choose a harvester, blender, processor

Poor fellows cannot beat off R&D since 1940, it is much better than MUM 5 for 10000 rubles
Shl on the site there is not a word or letter that this is Electrolux, on the site: Assistant ® Original © 2012. All rights reserved. IMHO since 2009 it is made by Ankarsrum Assistent AB

Yes, for that kind of money, I'm clearly not ready. Bosch MUM for 10,000 is undoubtedly better. But I already had 2 unsuccessful attempts to buy: in "Order 24" the plastic cover turned out to be cracked - it's good that my son saw, and the order accepted for tomorrow in "Technozone" was canceled today, although the site is available. I ordered it in the 3rd store, we can get lucky on Thursday.

Yes, for that kind of money, I'm clearly not ready. Bosch MUM for 10,000 is undoubtedly better. But I already had 2 unsuccessful attempts to buy: in "Order 24" the plastic cover turned out to be cracked - it's good that my son saw, and the order accepted for tomorrow in "Technozone" was canceled today, although the site is available. I ordered it in the 3rd store, we can get lucky on Thursday.

You mean at the front, the casting pattern running obliquely from the edge to the funnel? So this is not a crack, tested! I also considered for a long time This is just a drawing

Hello everybody. After re-reading the Temki, I really liked two models of combines - Kenwood Kmix and Electrolux assistant. The husband promises to make such an expensive gift ... But we will only order the case from abroad. Who had experience, maybe someone will throw in a personal the sites from which they ordered. Does anyone know what's the difference between these two models? What's better? I need mainly for dough (especially steep, for bread), make pasta, my husband liked the sausage attachment (since we completely abandoned the purchased one).
Thank you all very much

In Electrolux there is a scraper that scrapes the dough off the walls during kneading, but not in kMix, this is only why Electrolux is better as a kneader. All kMix attachments must be purchased separately. The set includes only devices for kneading different types of dough. I don't know how noisy the Electrolux is, but kMix is ​​very noisy. But I like him because he is handsome. And, in general, it satisfies the small needs of our family for bakery products. I bought a set of graters for him ... I also have complaints about them. The holes in the puree grater are so large that pieces fall through them, and no mashed potatoes work. A simple grater is too coarse. Do not gnaw raw carrots, rubbed on it. The other is already too small. The meat grinder is good.

You mean at the front, the casting pattern running obliquely from the edge to the funnel? So this is not a crack, tested! I also considered for a long time This is just a drawing

Well, now it's late to rush, we'll see on the next one. Although the sellers also considered for a long time - and agreed. Casting - symmetrically on 2 sides, and there was an additional

Please help me choose a harvester, a choice from:
Food processor Bosch MUM 4855
or
Combine Bosch MCM5540
I want the dough to knead well, but I plan to find out about the rest of the delights

What exactly are you going to do with the combine? If you answer in detail, they can give you good advice.
Scroll a couple of pages back, people were also looking for harvesters, maybe the information contained in the posts will be useful to you.

I've already read everything, I really want him to cut and grate and grind, the dough is mixed with dumplings, pie, etc. (this is practically the main thing)

in 5540 I liked the fact that it is powerful, there are a lot of functions, and in mum - that it kneads dough and design well, and the attachments, as I understand it, can be purchased
and a submersible blender with whisk attachments, a chopper I have, so I don't care much about these functions.

I have already re-read everything, I really want everything to be cut and rubbed and chopped, the dough is interfered

in 5540 I liked the fact that it is powerful, there are a lot of functions, and in mum - that it kneads the dough and design well, and the attachments, as I understand it, can be bought

What dough do you need to knead? If it's yeast, then it's easier to buy a bread maker.
You can buy a couple of discs and a citrus juicer for MUM. There is no universal bowl with knives in it, there is no grinder. If you choose MUM, then take the 47 ... or 5 series, where the design generally flies and the power is high.

yes they are cool! But I have money restrictions
I recently bought a multicooker, so definitely no bread maker

yes they are cool! But I have money restrictions
I recently bought a multicooker, so there is definitely no bread maker

A bread maker can be bought for very little money !!!

yes they are cool! But I have money restrictions
I recently bought a multicooker, so there is definitely no bread maker

You didn't hear me. I'm trying to tell you that BOSH MUM is not very friendly with yeast dough. It is cheaper to buy a bread maker to knead yeast.

The set of quality and inexpensive Brown Bread Maker and Combine will cover all your needs, while being cheaper than the Bosch 5 Series you have chosen. You can buy a bread maker and a Bosch MUM 4 series, also quite for yourself. But in the second option, you will miss a chopper and a bowl of knives. Therefore, Brown and a bread maker are preferable. Unless you're a fan of non-yeast baked goods. A bowl with universal knives can replace a meat grinder, I now make minced meat only in this way

Daffi, I have no place to put the bread maker now, so I definitely won't buy it. And why is he not friends as it is expressed? I probably missed it ...

I already have a chopper (it is attached to the blender), and the bowl ... I'm generally a layman in these combiners, is it really really needed?

Daffi, I have no place to put the bread maker now, so I definitely won't buy it. And why is he not friends as it is expressed? I probably missed it ...

I can't say about MUM 5 series, but MUM 4 series kneads yeast with moaning and crying, it's hard for him. There are videos on YouTube of how he does it, a really pathetic sight. If you knead yeast dough with MUM for 20 minutes (like in a bread machine), the combine will quickly die. The plastic gear train from such loads will quickly fail.

I already have a chopper (it is attached to the blender), and the bowl ... I'm generally a layman in these combiners, is it really really needed?

Well, how can I know if you need a bowl of knives or not. I need it. The bowl of knives is the same chopper, only larger. I make minced meat for terrine in a bowl, dough for oatmeal cookies, grind onions, carrots, make dough for pancakes, I'm going to make a streusel.
My chopper is 0.5 liters, and the bowl with knives is 1.5 liters. And in the combine, bowls from 2 liters and more, that is, more fits

My MUM4655 is over 7 years old. It was only after I bought a hand blender and a mini-harvester that I realized that this is exactly what I constantly lacked in my harvester. A food processor blender cannot do the things that a bowl of knives (small or large) does.

Daffi, I have nowhere to put my bread maker

My HP is on a stool next to the refrigerator. If there is no free space for a stool, you can pull it out from under the table only during work.
About the bowl of knives. I have a bowl in the harvester, in my opinion, 2.5 liters. With knives I make dough of medium thickness, minced meat, dough for a liver cake, grind nuts (if you need to grind a lot at once). A very handy thing! Once I tried to chop the cabbage like that - I didn't like it. He copes with the rest of the tasks with a bang.
I have not tried yeast dough in the combine - for this I have a two-knife HP.

Can anyone have a Bosch 5540 like this machine? Something bad reviews scraped together a lot, they write that it breaks in a fell swoop

I bought a Bosch Mum 52120. The goal was - a kneader (mostly not yeast) and a blender for milkshakes. I really liked the design of the mum-4756, and did not like the design of the 5 series at all. But since all the combines were sold with a bunch of unnecessary trash in the form of a meat grinder and a citrus press, and 52120 was just without ..., it was won at a price, which bribed me.My husband insisted on mum-8, but I had no idea what to do with a 5 liter bucket.
So.
1. As at first glance, the design did not like in the photo (there was no way to touch and see), so everything turned out in life. everything is nice and beautiful, but the design is stupid, irrational. stupid "bracket" .. in general does not look in the kitchen. Beautiful streamlined shapes did not fit well into a square microwave coffee maker, etc.

2. Blender. The main thing is why I did not buy the vending Mum-47 (there it is a small 0.75L). So this blender whistles and hums at maximum speed so that the child trembled and sobbed in hysterics. And he didn't whip up any cocktail. 200gr of ice cream + 200gr of milk + banana whipped up to a height of 1.25 liters, but after turning it off, it all dropped to its original volume. I had to pour all this as before into my dishes and beat the cocktail as it should be with the usual whisk from a submersible blender, saturating it with air as much as possible. Why do I need such a blender, I don't know. I can also chop the berries in mashed potatoes with an immersion blender.

3. Inertial cable winding. The little thing that everyone pays attention to last. In mum-47 it is, in mum-5 only in episode 56. Well, these idiots Boshi. Such is the problem in the 21st century to put this unfortunate cable winding everywhere. I decided that I would plug it in once and that's it. It wasn't like that. There are no On / Off buttons. Our youngest baby in the blink of an eye puts the chair down, stretches out his hand to the speed lever and turns on the zipper and runs back. There is a tuda-syuda cable.

4. Speeds 4. I thought completely. No. In fact, the 3rd speed is not enough, and the 4th is a lot. So 7 speeds are better.

And as for the fact that 4.5 mummies die from kneading yeast dough, I am still amazed and how I have done everything with my hands all my life and have not died yet. Joke.

[Sonia]

SoniaI don't even know to congratulate you or sympathize. It’s a pity that you didn’t like the harvester. Maybe you can return it to the store or change it to MUM47?

You didn't ask about the blender or I didn't notice. If asked, I would honestly answer that at 4 speeds like a tractor hums, I can hardly stand it myself

As for kneading yeast dough. There is good news I recently saw the blog of a woman in LJ who has a BOSH 4655 and a bunch of different yeast baked goods, bread, etc. She specifically clarified how she kneads the dough. She replied that she used a combine at 1 or 2 speeds, but for a long time.

Conclusion - Even BOSCH MUM 4655 (power 550 W) is able to knead excellent yeast dough, but the process takes a long time. On my own I will add that the dough for cake kneads well, I once tried it. It is necessary to monitor the progress of the kneading, because the yeast dough clings to the hook and begins to crawl upward along it, trying to get inside the combine, which is not good. Well, I can also say that the tough dough kneads hard, so hard that it makes me feel sorry for the poor combine.

Personal opinion - I still continue to believe that it is better and cheaper to buy a bread maker for yeast dough.But if there is no possibility, then the combine will do just fine

As for kneading yeast dough. There is good news I recently saw the blog of a woman in LJ who has a BOSH 4655 and a bunch of different yeast baked goods, bread, etc. She specifically clarified how she kneads the dough. She replied that she used a combine at 1 or 2 speeds, but for a long time.

This is exactly what I do. Yes, for a long time, but during this time I do a bunch of other things, so it's okay.

Yesterday I beat eggs on a biscuit, I was disappointed. I had to get out the mixer. It would, of course, beat right in the end, I'm talking about the combine, but I didn't have an extra hour to wait.

I bought Mum 4756 as a kneader for yeast dough. Here I am happy. Yes, it kneads a tight dough with a creak; in general, it creaks a little during kneading. But it kneads cool, long, but good.

And, the dough never gets into the harvester, because there is a safety cap on the hook for these cases. But I haven't kneaded the cake yet, maybe it will climb above the cap, we'll see.

Lozja, I make a biscuit dough of 4 eggs in a couple of minutes in a food processor. I use a whisk with frequent wires and the maximum (fourth) speed. I do not separate the whites from the yolks, beat the whole eggs, then add sugar and use a spatula to manually stir in the flour. The result is a biscuit with a diameter of 20 cm and a height of 4.5-5 cm.
On the hook and inside the combine, it was not cake dough, but bread dough that climbed. I barely caught it. It climbed inside a white plastic thing, which must be put on the hook and tried to break through with battles into the mechanical part of the combine

Lozja, I make a biscuit dough of 4 eggs in a couple of minutes in a food processor. I use a whisk with frequent wires and the maximum (fourth) speed.
On the hook and inside the combine, it was not cake dough, but bread dough that climbed. I barely caught it. It climbed inside a white plastic thing, which must be put on the hook and tried to break through with battles into the mechanical part of the combine

I never got it into that little thing, I don't know.

I also beat it like that - 4 eggs + maximum speed. Yes, everything whipped up very cool, rose, everything was fluffy. But when I baked the biscuit, it turned out that it was thinner than necessary. I thought of doing the same amount to make a cake of normal height. I threw in 4 more eggs with sugar to beat. And then I suddenly remembered how once, here, at the Bread Maker, someone showed a video of how to correctly check whether the eggs were beaten enough for the biscuit dough. And tilting the bowl of the combine, I realized that before that, oh, how far away, and it had been whipping for 10-15 minutes. So how much should you beat until perfect? Hour? I took this bowl of eggs, took my beast mixer in my hand and in 3 minutes I had almost perfectly beaten eggs. Almost, because the flour still sagged a little when I poured it on top, but this was not at all the same as the first time. The biscuit turned out three times fluffier and higher. Like this.

I never got it into that little thing, I don't know.

I also beat it like that - 4 eggs + maximum speed. Yes, everything whipped up very cool, rose, everything was fluffy. But when I baked the biscuit, it turned out that it was thinner than necessary. I thought of doing the same amount to make a cake of normal height. I threw in 4 more eggs with sugar to beat. And then I suddenly remembered how once, here, at the Bread Maker, someone showed a video of how to correctly check whether the eggs were beaten enough for the biscuit dough. And tilting the bowl of the combine, I realized that before that, oh, how far away, and it had been whipping for 10-15 minutes. So how much should you beat until perfect? Hour? I took this bowl of eggs, took my beast mixer in my hand and in 3 minutes I had almost perfectly beaten eggs. Almost, because the flour still sagged a little when I poured it on top, but this was not at all the same as the first time. The biscuit turned out three times fluffier and higher. Like this.

How to check? Will you throw a link?

Lozja, I will tell you how I make a biscuit.

First, I preheat the oven for 15 minutes. During this time, I prepare a round detachable form: I put oiled baking paper on the bottom. Only to the bottom! While it is heating, I prepare the ingredients: 4 eggs at room temperature, 120 g of sugar, 30 g of starch, 90 g of flour. I put the starch and flour in one container and stir a little with a hand whisk, just so that they connect with each other.

When the oven is warmed up, take 4 eggs and beat in a food processor until the volume increases. It takes 2 minutes at most, even less. Then little by little, without stopping whipping, I add sugar and wait for the mass to increase in volume and turn white. It takes at most another 2 minutes. I get a thick and lush mass. I turn off the combine and take out the bowl of eggs. I hold a silicone spatula over the bowl and pour 1/3 of the starch-flour mixture onto it, add flour to the eggs with the correct movements, then add another 1/3 of the flour in the same manner, mix again with the correct movements, then add the remainder, mix completely and immediately spread the dough into the prepared form.I put it in the oven and as expected - do not knock, do not rattle, do not open the door. When the smell starts, I take it out and check it with a toothpick for readiness. If ready, take out the form and put it upside down on the wire rack. Let it cool completely. Then I free the biscuit and make the bottom of the cake on top of the cake. All. Nothing complicated

Flour needs to be mixed with the right movements, somewhere on the internet there is a video with Julia Child when she makes a biscuit. Here I am trying to repeat her movements.

Lozja, I will tell you how I make a biscuit.

First, I preheat the oven for 15 minutes. During this time, I prepare a round detachable form: I put oiled baking paper on the bottom. Only to the bottom! While it is heating, I prepare the ingredients: 4 eggs at room temperature, 120 g of sugar, 30 g of starch, 90 g of flour. I put the starch and flour in one container and stir a little with a hand whisk, just so that they connect with each other.

When the oven is warmed up, take 4 eggs and beat in a food processor until the volume increases. It takes 2 minutes at most, even less. Then little by little, without stopping whipping, I add sugar and wait for the mass to increase in volume and turn white. It takes at most another 2 minutes. I get a thick and lush mass. I turn off the combine and take out the bowl of eggs. I hold a silicone spatula over the bowl and pour 1/3 of the starch-flour mixture onto it, add flour to the eggs with the correct movements, then add another 1/3 of the flour in the same manner, mix again with the correct movements, then add the remainder, mix completely and immediately spread the dough into the prepared form. I put it in the oven and as expected - do not knock, do not rattle, do not open the door. When the smell has gone, I take it out and check it with a toothpick for readiness. If ready, take out the form and put it upside down on the wire rack. Let it cool completely. Then I free the biscuit and make the bottom of the cake with the top of the cake. All. Nothing complicated

Flour needs to be mixed with the right movements, somewhere on the internet there is a video with Julia Child when she makes a biscuit. Here I am trying to repeat her movements.

With my movements, everything is fine, with the eggs, that's a mess. According to my recipe, I have a slightly different sponge cake that is poured onto a large baking sheet and then cut into pieces.

When you beat eggs and sugar onto a biscuit, this mass of dojna leaves a trail that does not disappear if you count to 10. This is one way of checking, the second - already after the fact - when you pour flour on this mass, it should not sag a single gram under the flour at all. I can hardly find a video, probably, in some Temko about a classic biscuit I saw. One of the cake specialists showed me.

Could it be that you read the tips from one recipe, and make a biscuit according to a different recipe?
It is important to beat the eggs first, and then, when they have already increased in volume, add sugar. If you beat eggs with sugar at once, it will not be so fluffy, checked
Eggs must be at room temperature, if you take them from the refrigerator, the mass is not so stable.

Can you write your biscuit recipe? Maybe the problem is in him.

Could it be that you read advice from one recipe, and make a biscuit according to a different recipe?
It is important to beat the eggs first, and then, when they have already increased in volume, add sugar. If you beat eggs with sugar at once, it will not be so fluffy, checked
Eggs must be at room temperature, if you take them from the refrigerator, the mass is not so stable.

Can you write your biscuit recipe? Maybe the problem is in him.

You probably didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I made two biscuits from the same eggs, using the same technology. I know the technology for making biscuit dough and beating eggs in particular. That's not the point at all! Bosch just turned out to be a thin biscuit, hammered slightly. The second time I finished it off with a hand mixer, and I just have it, and the biscuit turned out three times higher and more magnificent.

How can there be a problem in the recipe if the second time I got just a gorgeous biscuit? It could be even better, but it was too lazy to finish off the eggs to the ideal density.

By the way, I didn't even dare to make sour cream with Bosch, sour cream needs to be whipped quickly and powerfully, otherwise it can suddenly become liquid and then the pipe, you won't change anything. I decided not to risk it, beat it with a hand mixer. I even connected the store and the home, the mixer did it, it turned out great.

Well, there is not enough speed in Mums 4 series for whipping with a whisk, whatever one may say! SLOW is great for whipping, despite the planetary motion. If I didn’t have my mixer, I would probably be happy with the result of Bosch. After my mixer - baluvan, I got used to the fact that everything is whipped in a few minutes.

Which mixer? Can you write the manufacturer's name and model?

[Sonia]

SoniaI don't even know to congratulate you or sympathize. It’s a pity that you didn’t like the harvester. Maybe you can return it to the store or change it to MUM47?

This is a lesson for me: the first impression is correct. Liked - take it, no - do not persuade yourself to the imaginary advantages.
I cannot return it. There was no MUM-47 in this store, and the children at home smashed the box to smithereens, no matter how we delayed them, and the requested 5 minutes of playing in the time machine turned the box and polystyrene into a cake.

About the blender - yes, I did not ask.

I had an idea to buy a powerful hand mixer and a separate stationary powerful blender. the thought was correct. Until now, I whipped everything, controlling it with the direction of the whisk hand ... and even with a dead blender, which I wrapped with frozen gel (so as not to overheat), I got good desserts and cakes.

MUM-52 whipped the squirrels well, but coped poorly with some yolks.

Well nothing. I'm glad I bought not Kenwood, not Bosch MUM-8 and not Kitchen ... I'll see what's what and if I need it.

Which mixer? Can you write the manufacturer's name and model?

VICO HM-350. This is a trade mark of the chain of stores of equipment Vikotek - "Svit elektroniki". Here I showed how I beat proteins with this mixer - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8252.0.
But if you need a low speed in a mixer, it will not work for you. Because even at the first speed, the wreaths are spinning at such a speed that you cannot call your tongue by slowly whipping it. I just keep silent about the maximum.

[Sonia]

Sonia, if your main goal was - kneading non-yeast dough, you should have taken not this type of combine at all, but a food processor. Moums are focused more specifically on yeast dough. Cupcake in general can be made in any combine, but dumplings are tight - in the bowl of the processor it is done with a bang, but Mum cannot cope with it completely, until it is completely kneaded and smooth, I still mix it with my hands. And in the processor - 1-2 minutes and the dough is completely ready.

Lozja, yeah. Shaitan machine. We don't have such stores and you can't find such mixers either. I still have enough MUM and a whisk from a hand blender.

[Sonia]

Sonia, if your main goal was - kneading non-yeast dough, you should have taken not this type of combine at all, but a food processor. - 1-2 minutes and the dough is completely ready.

Which food processor is worth considering? There was also such a thought, to take Philips. They frightened that the dumplings dough is tightly wound on the knife, the plastic bowl cracks by itself. Sometimes they talk about noise, but in the store they are completely confused, they say, the higher the power, the more buzzing.
I considered a food processor, including because of chopped dough. In Bosh Mum, it’s probably better not to try? faster with your hands to grind butter and flour into crumbs.

... If a blender worked well in this combine, then the purchase would please me, and the dough ... there is always something to make. Maybe someone will tell you about a blender: blenders are generally capable of creating rich whipped cocktails like in cafe-bars ...

p.s. I remember in Soviet times, my relative - a cafeteria worker - brought home stolen ice cream. He was not put into milkshakes. At a minimum of ice cream, milk was whipped SO, which was still very tasty.

Which food processor is worth considering? There was also such a thought, to take Philips. They frightened that the dumplings dough winds strongly on the knife (accordingly, it is more difficult to wash), the plastic bowl cracks by itself. Sometimes they talk about noise, but in the store they are completely confused, they say, the higher the power, the more buzzing.
Considered food processor for chopped dough. In Bosh Mum, it’s probably better not to try? faster with your hands to grind butter and flour into crumbs.

Chopped dough is also better done in the processor. I don't know which one is better. I have Brown K700 for more than 4 years. And why does the dough roll on knives? The dough is kneaded with a separate attachment, not with knives, I mean dumplings. In Brown, for example, these are plastic knives like that, one is bent upwards. Kneading the dough in just a minute or two. Of course, the harvester pounds at the same time due to its steepness so that you have to hold the harvester with your hand. But it doesn't matter, because very quickly and the dough is perfectly kneaded. It just knocks him against the walls of the bowl at high speeds.
Well, the bowl for 4 years of torment has not cracked like anywhere else, t. T. T.

Oh, about the noise. I can't imagine a quiet harvester, neither a processor, nor a planetary one. All the same, there is a motor, all the same, the combine does something at the same time. How can he be quiet?

girls! I bought 5540 while I'm very happy

dough - in 1 minute! The meringue whisk whipped very well! I tried almost all the functions
Either, I am not spoiled by such a technique, or my child is calm (he does not run and does not tug on the handles, because he will quickly get on these handles and in general the children have nothing to do in the kitchen, except for eating)
thanks for the help

[Sonia]

Sonia, a whisk of three twigs makes flour with butter in a crumb with a bang. True, you need to stop in time, because a completely homogeneous mixture is obtained.

I like the blender from the combine. He can make an excellent curd dessert, crushes berries, even frozen ones, makes mashed soups, crushes ice, sugar, nuts, crackers. I even chopped baked eggplants for them. And she made pancake dough

Cocktails in the BOSCH blender. Still, professional blenders are more powerful, whatever one may say. There is most likely a different whipping mechanism (probably). I'm not really in the know.

About Soviet cocktails. There was a disc-shaped attachment, if I remember correctly. The same nozzle was on the Soviet mixer Rostok. And there is exactly such a nozzle in the Bamix hand blender. This notorious Bamiks, according to the owners, whips skim milk to a stable foam. There is a process of aeration, filling the mixture with air, it seems that this is exactly what you need.

As for the noise. Bosches, Philips and others like them have a plastic gear inside, they are all noisy. Especially when the gears start to wear out a little. Brown has a belt drive, so the combine should run much quieter. But you better ask Lozja, she will be able to do comparative noise tests BOSCH and Brown

About Soviet cocktails. There was a disc-shaped attachment, if I remember correctly. The same nozzle was on the Soviet mixer Rostok. And there is exactly such a nozzle in the Bamix submersible blender. This notorious Bamiks, according to the owners, whips skim milk to a stable foam. There is a process of aeration, filling the mixture with air, it seems that this is exactly what you need.

Beat milk until strong foam with a Bosch mixer and mum with a whisk for cream (where there are a lot of procrastination). It turned out like a cream - milk could be eaten with a spoon. I always make dairy (banana + milk or kefir) cocktails with an immersion blender, I have never been able to beat them with whisks as well as with a "foot". You can also make instant ice cream in the blender bowl - frozen fruit + milk.

In one of the culinary programs, the guest shared the secret of getting him a "Soviet milkshake". He argued that only a mixer with 14 thousand revolutions and above could achieve this. Which he did with the help of a special attachment he invented ... to the grinder. As far as I read about Bamiks, there are some tricks there when whipping milk, that is, it does not always whip there either, you still need to try.

[dalida]

dalida, I made ice cream from frozen fruits and ryazhenka, this was yummy

Daffi,

I believe. I'll definitely try it someday, thanks for the recipe! While I am on 0.5% milk and 1% kefir A fermented baked milk with a low content of fat, this is such disgusting, I will inform you.

Beat milk until strong foam with a Bosch mixer and mum with a whisk for cream (where there are a lot of procrastination). Turned out like cream

Specify, please, what "mixer" is this? In the sense of a blender that goes to MUM or is it a separate Bosch mixer?
Because when I got no result in the muma blender, there was a desire to splash all this and beat it in a dough bowl.

about Bamiks, then there are some tricks for whipping milk, that is, it does not always whip there either, you still need to try.

here are the ones on ... I found Bamiks in my village (miracles! and Bosch-5 and 8 were not there to touch). Power 140 and 200W, rpm is not indicated.

I don't have Bamiks, but you can ask the owners about the choice of blenders, they ran there. In Bamiks, the power is low, as in Kitchen Eids, but this does not affect the quality of work and the number of revolutions. Apparently there is a gear train, which increases the speed, I don’t know, didn’t have it, didn’t disassemble it. Judging by the reviews of the Bamiks owners, they are in complete ecstasy from using the device and from whipped milk, although some people did not like this milk, there were some

[Sonia]

Sonia,

yes, I also have a separate Bosch mixer with whisks, it came up to me in design to Mumu-5

I churned them fat milk into cream, without ice cream! I do not prepare milkshakes for them, as fruits are wrapped around the whisk. I make milkshakes only dipping, the fruits are chopped and whipped.

The skim milk whips the mum with a cream whisk in 30 seconds in a large bowl. The mass is dense, if interested, I can insert a photo.

It turned out to be inserted.

Well, there is little speed in Mumah 4 series for whipping with a whisk, whatever one may say! SLOW is great for whipping, despite even the planetary motion. If I didn’t have my mixer, I would probably be happy with the result of Bosch. After my mixer - baluvan, I got used to the fact that everything is whipped in a few minutes.

I totally agree! In my opinion, any hand mixer copes with whipping much faster and more efficiently.

And in muma4 it is long and sad, and at the same time, paradoxically, there is a risk of interrupting the squirrels, when all is impossible, and then suddenly once - and already dry cotton wool ... But still the main thing is that it makes it possible to do at this time what something else! It kneads gluten in yeast dough better than a bread maker, much smoother and more uniform, but, alas, it doesn’t bring my strong flour to a real gluten window ... no matter how hard you beat it. I am often yeast at 3 speeds. at the end of the batch I tighten it, I have to hold it with my hands so that the lever does not fall off. And Brown K700 kneads perfectly to the gluten window (like any processor, probably), and in 1-2 minutes! It’s dreary to wash it only after that ...
Even in the mum, I often whip butter for cupcakes according to Gostovsky technology (based on a lush butter-egg cream) and here I really miss the K-shaped nozzle in silicone, as in the Kenwoods. Apparently for her sake, someday you will have to buy Kenwood

And a milkshake in the station. blender never worked for me. Here, indeed, it is better with Bamiks, with a power of 200W, 17,000 rpm at 2nd speed. Low-fat cold milk whips perfectly - you can turn the glass over, but with fatty and hot milk there are problems - it does not always work out. But a spring on batteries from Ikea for 99r, no difference - it whips hotter, and even 10% fat cream is better than Bamiks

I totally agree! In my opinion, any hand mixer copes with whipping much faster and more efficiently.

And in muma4 it is long and sad, and at the same time, paradoxically, there is a risk of interrupting the squirrels, when everything is impossible, and then suddenly once - and already dry cotton wool ... But still the main thing is that it makes it possible to do at this time what something else! It kneads gluten in yeast dough better than a bread maker, much smoother and more uniform, but, alas, it doesn’t bring my strong flour to a real gluten window ... no matter how hard you beat it. I am often yeast at 3 speeds. at the end of the batch I tighten it, I have to hold it with my hands so that the lever does not fall off. And Brown K700 kneads perfectly to the gluten window (like any processor, probably), and in 1-2 minutes! It’s dreary to wash it only after that ...
Even in the mum, I often whip butter for cupcakes using the Gostov technology (based on a lush butter-egg cream) and here I really miss the K-shaped nozzle in silicone, as in the Kenwoods. Apparently for her sake, someday you will have to buy Kenwood

And a milkshake in the station. blender never worked for me. Here, indeed, better Bamiks, 200W, 17,000 rpm at 2nd speed. Low-fat cold milk whips perfectly - you can turn the glass over, but with fatty and hot milk there are problems - it does not always work out. But a spring on batteries from Ikea for 99r, no difference - whips hotter, and even 10% fat cream is better than Bamiks

The conclusion is that there is nothing perfect in this world.

This is offset by a wider variety of interesting devices.

[Sonia]

Sonia,
The skim milk whips the mum with a cream whisk in 30 seconds in a large bowl. The mass is dense, if interested, I can insert a photo.

I just tried to beat my 200gr ice cream + 200ml milk 3% fat again - in a large bowl with a large whisk. The whisk is spinning quietly, but very slow for a cocktail. Bottom line: light bubbles in 1-2 minutes, after 5 minutes all the same light bubbles. I whipped it with a whisk from a Brown 450W blender - the whisk spins faster than Mum, the result is better - volume, foam, density appeared.
Question: why is there a separation of milk by fat content. I have never met that fat-free whips one device, another - whips only fat. Where to read, what are the chips or secrets, or accidents?

I just tried to beat my 200gr ice cream + 200ml milk 3% fat again - in a large bowl with a large whisk. The whisk is spinning quietly, but very slow for a cocktail. Bottom line: light bubbles in 1-2 minutes, after 5 minutes all the same light bubbles. I whipped it with a whisk from a Brown 450W blender - the whisk spins faster than Mum, the result is better - volume, foam, density appeared.
Question: why is there a separation of milk by fat content. I have never met that fat-free whips one device, another - whips only fat. Where to read, what are the chips or secrets, or accidents?

I'm strange too. I know from personal experience that whipping-not whipping milk depends primarily on the protein content in the milk, and not on the fat content.

[Sonia]

Sonia, dumplings are tight - in the bowl of the processor it is done with a bang, but Mum cannot cope with it completely, until it is completely kneaded and smooth, I still mix it with my hands. And in the processor - 1-2 minutes and the dough is completely ready.

Is it possible to consider the Multiquick-5 blender as an analogue of Brown K700, since they added a knife for kneading thick dough. The question arose because the blender means keeping the button pressed. So far, I can't even imagine the chopping function - you press the blender button with one hand, and with the other you throw the potatoes into the chopper. It's strange. But looking back at my kitchen, I finally saw that I had all the Brown appliances. What am I looking for this Bosch ...

Is it possible to consider the Multiquick-5 blender as an analogue of Brown K700, since they added a knife for kneading thick dough. The question arose because the blender means keeping the button pressed. So far, I can't even imagine the chopping function - you press the blender button with one hand, and with the other you throw the potatoes into the chopper. It's strange.But looking back at my kitchen, I finally saw that I had all the Brown appliances. What am I looking for this Bosch ...

Sure why not! Plus, everything can be compactly folded into a cabinet and not take up space with a whole food processor in the kitchen. The power is the same, the chopper, the graters-shredders - the same in fact, maybe, plus or minus some grater, it is not essential. However, I cannot find information about the volume of a large shredder.
In general, in order not to produce combines, this blender is a very good option, as for me.