Himik043
and threw in another tablespoon of flour. the dough seems to be the same. sticks a little to the wall but does not stay on it. well, we'll wait how it goes)
floran
Hurrah! Another user realized that he needed to delve into the intricacies, that the machine does not do everything by itself.
By the way, for the future, it is advisable to make all the manipulations with the kolobok during the first batch, and not to disturb the dough in the second.
Himik043
I agree. the fact is that to write down the time of the end of the first batch, a break, the beginning and end of the second batch came to light only now))) and was afraid that the first batch would end immediately after throwing in the flour)))
floran
Yes, this is ordinary compressed yeast, its shelf life in the refrigerator is 30 days. I bought it at Perekrestok, they were lying in the cheese department (you have to ask the staff). They cost 8-10 rubles. Packaging 100 grams. There are also in Ashan, where I also took. In Pyaterochka, no.
It's late now, and tomorrow I'll take a picture of the package.
For 550 grams of flour I take 10-12 grams, crush it over the flour and immediately knead. I never put on a deferral. I tried to put it in liquid (in this order - water, sugar, yeast, butter, flour, salt), and so, and so good.
I, too, recently bought Saf-Levure, the smell does not roll. The spirit of pressed baking is completely different. The only thing is that the bread became stale earlier.
In general, I got all the information from here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...emid=99999999&topic=697.0
But you, my friend, seem to bake black bread? It seems there is a slightly different dosage. But I don’t remember exactly, I haven’t grown to black yet.
floran
Well, surprised! And I kept your "Bourget" in perspective. I read about ergot.
We are all victims of information abundance - I also read horror stories about fast yeast. (By the way, with very dubious evidence and conclusions). But the impression remained ...
I respect your relationship with bread dough. This is an amateur business.
I'm talking to a kolobok. True only at the first batch. And then every time I am amazed, watching how he grows up and develops there, turning into bread. But I do not interfere with the processes of bread baking, she is doing her job wonderfully. I had unsuccessful bread only once - the first. Hike for shoddy yeast.
And everyone is talking about the apple, it greatly helps the rise. I suspect that in this situation (with the bull's-eye) on the second program everything would turn out as nicely as when using the algorithm you invented. (But then what to do with the love of the process ?!)
melene
Hello, I bought a long-awaited stove in the Metro, but here's the problem, they loaded all the components for the bread, and the stove did not want to knead, I agree to knead the stove, but not knead in any. The shaft does not turn at all
floran
Have you chosen the correct program? Not baked goods without kneading?
melene
Yes, she chose 8, she really set the time 1-30 to 8, now she tried it again, it's already 15 minutes on the batch, she is silent, the timer is counting down
floran
Reset the program (in the sense, disconnect from the network for 20 minutes) and try on 1, or 2, or 3, or 5. If it doesn't mix right away, take it to the store.
Program 8 - dough, should also start kneading right away, but maybe you did not reset the previous program, if the program is not fully completed, the stove retains the memory of the program for 10 minutes after a power outage.
melene
Thank you, I'll try now, though the stove was turned off for the whole night, it didn't help, but suddenly it will come out, yesterday after its refusal to knead, since the products were already in the bucket, they made a bun by hand, baked very tasty bread, though it didn't rise to the end since the process was not correct, they waited a long time for her desire to start working, so she was used only as a stove for now.It's a pity we won't be able to hand it over to the store, since we live 300 km from the store, but I think my husband has to cope with the repairs, only he's very busy at work all week, and he doesn't have much love for her, although we bought her with a lot with the desire to bake bread for the whole family and for my son, I really don't want to feed him with store-bought bread.
floran
melene, think well with self-repair! Then they may not accept the exchange. And some breakdowns cannot be eliminated on your own, as a rule, if such an inexpensive technique breaks down, they do not take it for repair, elementary due to the lack of spare parts. Change immediately or return the money. I faced this fact more than once. And you can turn it on without food, if the blade does not start to rotate immediately in the modes I indicated, then there really is a problem.
LinaB
Did you insert the stirrer correctly?
melene
After all, there is only one option for setting the mixer, there is no way to make a mistake
Din
Dear, did anyone come across a problem? ... I don't even know what to call something:
It began with the fact that the rubber band began to rise, on one of the things that rotate the blades. Now some detail, under it (the rubber band) is the next, comes out. I am in a panic: - in our services they answer that this brand is not served. What is it and how can you fix it ??? !!!
sazalexter
Din Alaska is a trademark of the Metro store, you have to find out where the service center is. Lower the gland seal along the shaft as far as possible to the bearing. Until the gland collapses, you can use the bread maker, then either a new bucket or a new bread maker :(
Din
sazalexter, Thank you.
My heart felt that something like this would end. And at the expense of Metro, this is unlikely - they, well, don't they serve the CIS? (Kazakhstan i)
Okay, at least you can use it, during this time I will look, otherwise we are addicted to homemade bread, and everyone loved the bread machine. Oh, what a pity!
remman
Oh, I also have such a bread maker, while I'm happy. Tell me, where is the temka, where you can see how to knead the dough on dumplings in Alaska, I don't have such a program, the first messages say in the previous topic, but where is this previous topic?
Lika
remman, with purchase and welcome to the forum

For dumplings, take any recipe you like and knead on 1 - the main program, just the first batch - 10 minutes. If it seems that the dough still needs to be kneaded, stop the program and start kneading again for 10 minutes.
LinaB
Good afternoon, and I was kneading "Dough" on 8 ave. Everything worked out great.
remman
Thank you, yes, I was kneading the recipe I liked, right, the recipe that was used for the bread maker, the dough did not work out, it was very liquid, I kneaded it on the "kneading" program, then they told me if there is no special program "kneading hard dough", you shouldn't knead the dough for dumplings, dumplings in HP, the motor will burn out. I still have a question, here is the "cupcake" program, strange for some 2 hours 50 minutes, why is this?
LinaB
I had a bread maker not so long ago, I still have not studied it in detail. For cupcakes, I have many different forms, I have been baking in the oven for 40 years, and in this clever girl I bake wonderful white and rye bread. Everything works out great.
remman
Yes, the bread is wonderful, we don't have any rye flour, unfortunately, we are interrupted, barley and coarse grinding, but with a cupcake, with a program for baking muffins, it seems like it should be 1 hour 20 minutes, and in my 2 hours 50, maybe it's just me, but how are you?
Din
I rarely make cupcakes and use the 10-program "baking" for this (everything is baked, it turns out great), in extreme cases the 5-program "fast", but I think it's better to knead it yourself.
Din
Of course, I have little experience.
I put on the basis of: 2 tsp. dry = 25g. freshly pressed. At first, I just painted the yeast on the bottom of the bucket. And now, without first feeding it, I just dilute it in a small amount of liquid and pour it on top of the flour (for some reason I like it more).
floran
I put on 550 gr. flour 10-11 gr. fresh yeast. That is, at the rate of 2 gr. per 100 gr. flour.
25 gr. fresh yeast instead of 2 tsp. dry is a LOT!
There is a topic on the forum about recalculating the norm of dry to pressed.
As for the "revival", I tried it differently.There is absolutely no difference. The bread is the same. Now I just put all the ingredients, and crush my 11 grams on top. yeast. For almost 4 hours of the program's work, they perfectly manage to do their job without prior activation. But at the delayed start I have not tried to do this yet.
Saf-Levure yeast is sold not only in Metro, but also in Auchan, Perekrestok, etc.
floran
A-ah, are you from St. Petersburg ?! I had in mind the Moscow stores. Actually, for me the "big blue bag" Saf-Levure "is a 50-gram one. Three bags of unclaimed ones lie ...
Yeast topic: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&topic=697.0... Many words, the meaning is the same - for 100 grams of flour - 2 grams. live yeast. If the dough is butter (with eggs), then around 3 gr.
Din
floran, RolandS, came to tell you both, thank you!
With the new proportions of yeast from you - floran and your new - RolandS technology, I got a wonderful bread, both in taste, in weight, and in height. Now I will do so.

Can you say anything about the "eternal" leaven? I still can't dare to try.
Din
Quote: Viki

I can say: you must definitely try. But what if!......
There are two options: either to gain determination, or by the "eyes are afraid, but hands are doing" method. I guarantee support.
I tried it, today is the third day - the leaven rises very well, it looks like it's time to start it up and urgently. Now the question is: how much does it take to get bread? (because in "my" recipe for sourdough approximate doses / proportions for baking bread are not indicated).
Viki, You do not know, can you tell me?
Shurshun
Quote: Din

Urrah !!! It turned out, it turned out I have not tried it yet (very hot), but the smell ... - awesome, size and color - super!
Congratulations on the resulting bread.
Tried only Viki sourdough https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=17861.0 With her, a very delicate taste is obtained. When I baked, I put 2 tablespoons of sourdough on a loaf.
Din
Thank you.
Oh, Shurshun, but can I have a link to the bread recipe (I don’t know whose sourdough I made, the main thing is that it works), otherwise I’m on some sort of 9 tbsp. l. (again a lot) did, please.
Shurshun
I remember the hell Darnitsky from Fugaski https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=596.0 and bread and wine https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=9219.0.
The raisins were large, pitted, amber-transparent.
Shurshun
I found in the previous answers a recipe sharpened for Alaska https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9382.0 I definitely put more leaven into it, because I was afraid that the garlic would weaken the power of the leaven. But I don't remember the exact amount of leaven for this bread ..
Swifta
Himik043 I put it sort of as it is written in the instructions, first water, then flour, then sugar, salt, trembling in the center and oil at the end. And I once forgot to pour butter into the water and then had to pour it on top of flour with yeast, so my bread did not rise well. True, I do not know whether this is the reason for such a result or not (I haven’t experimented like that anymore), but maybe you should try pouring oil into water, and not into flour with yeast?
elena.artyuhina
Please help with my problem. Where can I buy a knife for kneading dough.
My stove broke, as a result of which the bread was not baked and the knife remained in the loaf. And I accidentally threw it out with the loaf. Terribly offensive. And besides, the stove is broken.
elena.artyuhina
Quote: RolandS

Where do you live? If in St. Petersburg, then I can tell you the place% -)

I live in Moscow region. I would have some kind of online store.
mell_84
please tell me where to get instructions for alaska bm 2000 in Russian or Ukrainian, otherwise there are only paid links to other languages ​​on the internet
Pakat
mell_84 , Internet search has not been closed yet ...

🔗
Diana 74
Help! SOS! sister bought herself an alaska, after 1 week of use she welled up! In short, it was like this - I put the dough, touched the extension cord with my foot, the stove was cut out of the network, she turned it back on and there the time does not burn, some dashes are running around and the stove is only kneading and not baking! do you need to return to the store?
Eliot
Hello dear bakers!
The day before yesterday our family was happy with HP Alaska 2600. The path to choosing a model was difficult and thorny. However, I have a person in my life who is docking in household appliances. He also recommended this brand.
For the third day now I have been reading your posts in this thread and I see how from lovers of beginners who admire auto modes, you have grown into professional bakers who are poring over their baking methods.
So far, my head is full of confusion, from grams, leavens, "games" with programs.
I hope, with the help of the forum, to master this science and pamper my husband (who dreamed of this unit more than me)) with delicious bread, muffins and buns.
Yesterday they produced their first bread! There are flaws, but from the fact that it is our very first, it is delicious and beautiful to disbelief!))
Bread maker Alaska-BM2600
But here's what surprised me. According to a friend's recipe, the bread should have turned out not too crumbly, more elastic. However, observing all the proportions of her recipe, the end result of the bread is, in my opinion, too crumbled. Maybe it's the flour ... Maybe other ingredients ... Maybe something else.
Then we immediately baked a sour cream cake using the Sweet Bread program. Babble, the dream of a tea lover with goodies)))
Bread maker Alaska-BM2600
Zest
Alyasochniki, aaauuuu)))

Please weigh your bucket without a stirrer
Eliot
I have already written to the Dolphins, but I will repeat here, probably, it will not be superfluous)))
Net weight 393 g.
Viki
Quote: Zest

Alyasochniki, aaauuuu)))
Please weigh your bucket without a stirrer
Without stirrer - 473 g
Stirrer - 19 g.
This is the 2007 release, apparently they save on new ones.
Din
And I have 551g. - a bucket and 40g. - stirrers.
Eliot
So, after a week of operation, the flight is normal. We are satisfied with the results of baking bread.
The grace of another friend found a recipe for white delicious bread, such as I wanted, now we bake and rejoice

Cupcakes are trickier. Three cupcakes, two bad ones. But this is not the bread maker's fault, these are my mistakes with the recipes that were originally given for ovens and hand-made dough.

The only caveat, for the fourth baking, it began to creak during kneading.
Din
Quote: Eliot

The only caveat, for the fourth baking, it began to creak during kneading.
I periodically creak, but very rarely, creak at the very beginning of the batch. Previously, it worried me, now it's calmer - nothing, kneads. What is the reason for this?
Eliot
With what this is connected I have no idea And also, not always, mainly in the first batch.
It seems that the shaft on which the agitator is mounted is creaking.
Rediska
Sobbing combustible tears the mixer from the bread machine is lost !!!! and "on the nose" Easter - as without Easter cake, then according to a proven recipe ???
I called Metro (St. Petersburg) - they answer that they do not supply spare parts and do not carry out repairs. And the service center listed on the warranty doesn't actually deal with Alaska
The warranty period ended a month ago - as evil
Advise what to do?
sazalexter
Rediska This is the trouble of almost all noname manufacturers, as an option, buy exactly the same HP or look for a scapula from a "relative" https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0
Rediska
Thank you very much for the tip)) I don’t want to buy the second one in the kitchen with an area of ​​6m2 there will be absolutely nowhere ((
so I will search
VITAMIN
So, where to find the place where these stoves are being destroyed?

I join the post of the girl a little higher - the same situation, the parents have lost the stirrer, now they are crying so that I can find it in Moscow.
I was in the service with this - 🔗

I tried on a bucket a couple of shoulder blades, but the nest is too small, then too large. They look similar, but in fact you have to work hard to get the shoulder blade up. If I don’t find the right blade, I’ll have to buy either too large (for Moulinex) and insert the bushing. I don't see any more options (((Tell me how and where else to find it. Thanks.

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