Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Dry instant yeast "Saf-Instant" with a red label Corrugated box of 20 vacuum packages weighing 500 g.

Well, this is possible, if together, I would join, but for 1, maximum 2 packages.

I have these, 0.5kg
I store it in the refrigerator, I close the bag with a clip

[tana33]

tana33, Tatyana, and where do you buy them from us?

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Thank you!

[Irina.]

Irina., in purchase

[tana33]

tana33, Tatyana, Thank you!

[Irina.]

Irina., in purchase

Can this be translated for mere mortals?
By the way, I found a place of planned aging in our stove.

[maks592]

found a place of planned aging in our stove.

maks592, Will you share with us where is this place? And it turned out like in the series - I stopped at the most interesting.

[Maxim]

Maxim, it's like this)))
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=197.0

[lega]

lega, Galina, no panic In SD-255 so far I really saw only one place, a bucket with an oil seal. The minimum is enough for 5 years of merciless exploitation (4 - 5 loaves per week)

In SD-255, I have actually seen only one place, a bucket with an oil seal. The minimum is enough for 5 years of merciless exploitation

Yes, it was five years later that I bought a new one. The oil seal was not to blame, but my old bucket was badly tattered.

A little later from home! I will take photos.

Reporting!
The stove was bought in September. I wondered why over time the bucket turned a little in the oven.

After inspection, I realized that the bayonet connector for fixing the bucket was worn out, or rather the pins for the clamp.


this is due to the fact that the grooves where the pins go are actually not as wide as they seem!

And the wear of the pin shows that it is much thinner (narrower).

And the support site also got it. The dent is visible.

Here's a parsley.
Now the bucket simply rested with pins on the vertical part of the "mother" of the connector, so the wear became much slower (the stop area increased). But! the bucket has ceased to snuggle tightly to the supporting part of the connector and "walks" during kneading. (hence the dent on the support platform) Therefore, it periodically creaks and squeaks, sometimes louder then quieter.

I'll just watch.

But for this particular spare part (part) the instructions give an order number! (though for a different reason)
God grant that this is just me!

PySy: I use the stove 2-3 times a week for a family of three.

[maks592]

maks592,
Yes, apparently you are not alone, on the trunk people wrote that he also had a bucket on Panasonic 2502 for only a year.
Apparently, they began to save even here, despite the 4-fold price, in comparison with other mass manufacturers.

I understand that nothing is eternal. But, I do not want these breakdowns.

[Elenochka Nikolaevna]

Elenochka Nikolaevna,
It was because of the reliability that they overpaid for Panasonic, but apparently the times have changed for them, the toad will destroy the company if they do not change their minds.

[maks592]

maks592, I don't see anything criminal, no panic! Slight natural wear and tear. Other manufacturers are doing much worse, there is no service, no buckets and shovels. Not to buy at all, even for very big money. Year of work and landfill. Panasonic has almost everything for sale.

I believe that if you raise the bucket higher (put something. Cut out some washer), then the emphasis will go to the wide part of the "mother", which is cast at an angle.
wear will drop sharply due to the lack of movement of the bucket in the connector and the larger contact area of ​​the pins.
I will cut a ring out of 1mm stainless steel on a laser under the bucket (to the very bottom) - I will report it!
there it will be immediately clear whether the bucket is dancing or not!
PySy: And it's not even about saving on matches! The fact is that the size is not respected! make the height of the "daddy" 1-2 mm larger so that the pins do not slip down, and everything will be covered in chocolate! such an ochuchenie that "dad" and "mom" during the development were taken from ready-made developments, without bothering to check compatibility. As if intermeddle - and good! himself in shock! The design provides protection against this type of wear, and because of the size mismatch, it does not work!
Then someone once wrote in this thread about the creak. he also fought the creak.(by the same method - I made a lining and the bucket was fixed) I don't have a creak, but the reason is the same! So I don’t pretend to be the author of the solution (if it will be executed)!

I don't see anything criminal, no panic! Slight natural wear and tear.

And I don't panic. I will inform you!
I myself work at a decent machine-building enterprise. I can make this knot completely even from X12 in one piece on a machining center.
In extreme cases, I will simply make new pins and put them on the threads in the body in the old places.

But! first with gentle methods - lining!

[maks592]

maks592, I had an aluminum gasket for many years in my HP. For Panasonic 255 Gasket dimensions: outer diameter 70 mm, inner diameter 58 mm, thickness 0.8-1.0 mm. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=637.40
I did not cut it with a laser, of course, but just with scissors for metal

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, and I want to try stainless steel!
If everything goes well, then you can distribute in a small amount to the community! (if the Russian post office accepts)
Only I want to try not to the bottom, but just ABOVE the pins! (if dressed)

[maks592]

maks592, go for it) my 2502 will soon be 2 years old, I bake regularly

but I will not refuse the gasket, it will suddenly come in handy) I will pay the costs

Other manufacturers are doing much worse, there is no service, no buckets and shovels. Not to buy at all, even for very big money.

However, the new HP comes out cheaper than a bucket from Panasonic ...

Panasonic SD-ZB2502 10 990 rub. 🔗
Panasonic SD-250x Bread Maker Bucket
Article: ADA12E165 7500 rubles 🔗

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, something in this store the prices are simply unrealistic

somehow I looked at the shoulder blades 300-400 r, and then more than 1000

Panasonic SD-250x Bread Maker Bucket
Article: ADA12E165 7500 rubles

Well, one bucket comes out like 2 of my HP (supra230).
And there is HP and for 2 tons.
Therefore, I wanted it to be like they used to have - I bought a Panasonic, and you know that this is an almost eternal technique, it's not a pity to overpay 5 times.

Well, one bucket comes out like 2 of my HP (supra230).

Look for a bucket on sale for your HP and a spatula will clear up a lot. About HP for 2000 rubles, and it is not necessary to speak at all disposable products.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,
And why, it's cheaper for me to buy 2 new HP than one bucket for Panasonic.

[A citizen]

A citizenThis is your choice, it is more convenient for me to change the bucket every five years than to bother buying a new HP, buying a new device is a big lottery, especially recently.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,
That's why we all loved Panasonic. which is synonymous with reliability and durability.
Hence my confusion with the latest frequent problems.

Panasonic SD-250x Bread Maker Bucket
Article: ADA12E165 7500 rubles

But a new (not used) SD-2500WTS is now available for 5440 rubles. buy.

The instructions say that fluid leakage from the ventilation holes of the drive unit (or something like that) is not a malfunction. Here ...

It does not flow from the ventilation holes, but from under the oil seal. And this is already a malfunction.

The dock was shown on Channel One. the film "The Conspiracy of Producers" seems to be Manufacturers initially put a certain service life into their products so that people either buy new equipment or spend on repairs, which are usually more expensive than new equipment. Nothing personal, just business!

[telez]

telez,

back to my case:
came to the conclusion that when turning the castings "dads" could simply remove the excess from below! hence, it turns out that the pins seem to go down and slip onto the narrow part of the clamp.
Moreover, the photograph shows that the lower part of the "dad" is absolutely clean (in contrast to the stop, which is black in the places of contact with the "mom"). So the bucket just now (it did get right before, because I wiped the blackness there) does not reach the very bottom, but hangs on the stop. And since the clamp is no longer there, the bucket is wobbling! Hence the dents on it (emphasis).
Let's make a lining!

Manufacturers initially put a certain service life into their products so that people either buy new equipment or spend on repairs, which are usually more expensive than new equipment.

There is nothing eternal. It's not for nothing that they set the product's service life of 5-7 years at most
There were times when the service life of Japanese electronics was set to 25 years)

Yeah, we still have Akai cassette in 1976. plays almost normally.Only cassettes are no longer interesting to anyone, although there are plenty of them.

There were times when the service life of Japanese electronics was set to 25 years.

This is a persistent misconception. The maximum service life is set for products with the ninth acceptance during the Soviet era 15 years.

It's not for nothing that they set the product's service life of 5-7 years at most

With such a period, the meaning of overpayment by 4-5 times is lost.

With such a period, the meaning of overpayment by 4-5 times is lost.

To each his own and each case is individual. For example, in the same Europe, Japan, they buy cars for a maximum of 5-6 years

And then our compatriots outbid them and they still run quietly for 20 years

For example, I will never buy a mixer or vacuum cleaner for 25-30 tons. R
but for a TV set or laptop 50-60t I consider an acceptable price

It's not for nothing that they set the product's service life of 5-7 years at most

The service life according to the passport differs from the real service life, my HP has been plowing since February 2009 and is not going to die.

So in Panasonic 7 years the service life is written. So this term has not yet expired for you.

[Stafa]

StafaThis does not mean anything, 7 years is the term that the company announces in order to protect itself, during this period the equipment will work ensuring the safety of use for the user and the environment. The real life usually exceeds the specified service life several times. For example, I have a TV in operation for 19 years, a dishwasher for 10 years, a washing machine for about 15 years

But this time has not yet arrived for me, but the bucket is leaking. That is, the service life has not worked. And for this I paid 10 thousand, I paid for the quality, but it turned out to be nothing. I also have a TV set that has been working since 1996, Sony. But the Samsung, then bought, died after 7 years. But they also cost differently, the Samsung was cheaper once in 5. Here's something like this. Moreover, this is the second thing I have from Panas, which turns away from this brand almost irrevocably. And if you read the topic of the new multicooker with cracking lids, then Panas began his way down to sunset. His name also became zilch.

I now think that under the Panasonic brand, now whoever is lazy makes their products.
The same thing happens with the Bosch technique. When I chose a built-in oven a few years ago, Bosch was my priority.

I saw quite a few fakes under this brand, especially in eldorado and m-video stores

[Stafa]

Stafa, HP under warranty? How long did the bucket last?

[Alex100]

Alex100, Panasonic makes the equipment itself, does not sell licenses.

Stafa, HP under warranty? How long did the bucket last?

No, the stove is 3 g for 4 months. No longer under warranty. When I get tired of this current bucket, my husband will change that oil seal. I already showed him the topic, where a master class on replacing the oil seal. And in the oil seal he recognized the valve stem seals from the car, so there is no problem with that. He changed the brushes for me on the coffee machine on the coffee grinder, now there are from the Zhiguli there.

But this time has not yet arrived for me, but the bucket is leaking. That is, the service life has not worked. And for this I paid 10 thousand, paid for the quality, but it turned out to be zilch.

Exactly about this a couple of people on the trunk wrote that a year - and a bucket of a skiff.
Some expensive lubricants were recommended to them there for an oil seal of 3 tons. for a tube, people spent in the hope and as a result nothing.
Instead of lubricant, they could buy 1-2 HP, but fanaticism is not worth it now.

[A citizen]

A citizen, yes, enough for you to drive a wave to Panas! We have 1/3 of Panasonic members on the forum, but only a few have problems with buckets! You like Supra, and the flag is in your hands!

[Masyusha]

Masyusha,
Well, explain what fanaticism is based on now.
I have Panasonic things, and HP at first also thought the overpayment was worth it, but for a start I took a cheaper supra 230 (in 2011 there was a 3-fold difference), last year I also wanted to take a Panasonic, it was somehow 4 in the m-video, 5 t. P., But now I read, and I am horrified, then for what I appreciated Panasonic, now apparently everything is already?