Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Bread maker LG HB-3001 BYT has additional programs

Thank you! I heard about her ...

Marina, it's good that this store is two houses away from me, I dragged her myself today, just to get the money back. They promised me 3-4 working days for consideration, they take the goods themselves. I didn't wait. The faces, of course, were dissatisfied, but I was very pleased. Have not checked yet
I read the instructions, but did not find answers to such very simple questions:
1. Can the bucket, spatulas, dispenser, ie removable parts be washed with dishwashing detergent?
2. Can the bucket be completely submerged in water?
3. How to shake the bread out of the mold? He will skip somewhere.
And poke your nose, what else you need to read in the second place, please ...

The points.
1. You can. Just do not tear with metal and do not poke into the PMM.
2. Again, you can. I, in any case, do everything OK regularly!
3. If on a grand scale, it will surely jump! What is the head for us? And the handles are gold.
the rest I cannot tell.

Marina, I see.
I checked how Tanya wrote. Teng warms up, the blade rotates in jerks, I realized that this is normal. The bucket moves slightly - is it supposed to be? Will I warm up now, close the lid?

The bucket moves. Alive.
A lid? As you want. If not baking, then no difference. Do not feel the heating element.

Tanya writes on the baking to warm up so that all sorts of smells go away.

I read the instructions, but did not find answers to such very simple questions:
1. Can the bucket, spatulas, dispenser, ie removable parts be washed with dishwashing detergent?
2. Can the bucket be completely submerged in water?
3. How to shake the bread out of the mold? He will skip somewhere.
And poke your nose, what else you need to read in the second place, please ...

What a clever girl you are, Alena! I represent their elongated faces, in the sense of a face.
Now, in order:
1. You can. That's what I do. The dispenser is not mine, because I have no less trouble with it.
2. I do not immerse it, but put it in the sink, take some warm water and leave it for a few minutes, so that the crust that fixes the scapula when shaking out softens. And then just wash it with a soft sponge inside and out.
3. Uuuu, here you have to get a handle. He will not gallop anywhere, under the groaning: "Yes, get out already, infection!" reluctantly falls on the laid towel. Check if the spatula is still in the bucket. It also happens that it remains in the bread. Then I carefully and grumbling pick it out with a PENCIL or some wood thread. Well, the rest of our Panasikologists will share their experience with you.
Good luck to you! And we are waiting for the report on the first bread with pictures.

The bucket moves. Alive.

Marina!! Comedian!

Alyona! Congratulations on your purchase !!! This is such a thrill - the smell of bread in the house !!! And music - when it kneads!

Wit, thanks. I wiped it with a rag, but I’ll probably bake it tomorrow, I’m afraid to leave it alone and leave it in an unfamiliar place
Irina, thank you too. Mom only thinks that the purchase is useless. Her friends have such devices idle.

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And I loved the whole grain bread so much! No not like this. Us I liked it so much! I saw the packaging in the store. It is called "French thing" (flour). I put on the dietary program at night -

... Mom only thinks that the purchase is useless. Her friends have such devices idle.

Well, I don’t know !!! Since July, when I bought it, I forgot how the purchased bread looks! (and with me on YOU !!!!)

And you ask what kind of devices they have and how "similar" they are. After all, when I first chose, I read about all sorts.For some you have to chase around the kitchen when kneading, others howl and howl so that neighbors beat the wall with shouts of "Yes, kill the dog, finally!" still others begin to dance like: "Oh, Grytsyu, turn around! OH, Grytsyu, don't zhurysya! ..."
And I have already forgotten where the bread department is in the store. When asked, I answer: "I don't know, I bake mine myself." They look with respect and surprise. They don’t know that there is Panasonic and the website. But I already met the inhabitants of our forum, but did not admit that I was Vit. It's so interesting to be a Stirlitz

They made fun, I’ll go to sleep with a smile on my face. He’s warmed up, let him rest, tomorrow we’ll go to work. Bye bye everyone.

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And I loved the whole grain bread so much! No not like this. Us I liked it so much! I saw the packaging in the store. It is called "French thing" (flour). I put on the dietary program at night -

What recipe was used for baking?

I, too, have probably not eaten store-bought bread for a year now, I have to charge everything in the HP on the machine, between times. In the morning I got up, put the kettle on for tea, and while it is warming up, I manage to put the dough into the HP, then everything else, while the tea is brewing, then I press START and go to drink tea with cookies or cheese.
And my mother also bought HP, also Panasonic. So they rarely bake, no matter how I come, they have a loaf from the store. I say: why didn't you bake it yourself? Oh, and when do we bake, says? Although I am surprised - there are no small children, my mother and my 40-year-old sister live together. Mom is retired. Sister - works from home. There is no dacha to be plowed and there was no time. I don’t understand what they are doing this. And they bought a multicooker according to my instructions. Stands in the corner on a stool, covered with a towel. They use it a couple of times a week. Amazing. Everything depends on the person. And because of all the devices, I use a gas stove almost only for scrambled eggs and tea, and I also use the oven, of course, and bake bread after proofing in HP, in the oven.

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Babovka - this topic is about Panasonic, we don't need another one.

Irina the girl asked about the function of yogurt, and I answered because I myself was looking closely at the bread maker with the function of yogurt. But won Panasonic

Mom only thinks that the purchase is useless. Her friends have such devices idle.

Oh, they didn't go to the bread maker ... There are so many recipes here that my bread maker participates in baking experiments every other day.
And for fresh bread, you don't need to run to the store ... he smelled food, pressed the buttons and went about his business. the beauty

... seized food, pressed the buttons and went about his business. the beauty

Yes, you don't need to run to the store for bread, I agree. But these same products, do you have that at home all the time? You need to bring in different flours, all kinds of yeast, yeast, additives (raisins, seeds ...) Or do you always have them at home? You also have to go to the store and buy everything!

Everything depends on the person. And because of all the devices, I use a gas stove almost only for scrambled eggs and tea, and I also use the oven, of course, and bake bread after proofing in HP, in the oven.

I totally agree. I love it when all the work surfaces are full of technology. How quickly everything turns out. Electric stove for scrambled eggs and pancakes. I am thinking of covering it with a sheet and using it as a work surface. Two multicooker are working at full capacity. A food processor and a blender are right next to you, close at hand. The bread maker works twice a day. Pies and pies, pizza - almost every day. Dough for pies, after a long experiment, I make according to the recipe - dough for croissants on the French dough program # 18.
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While I am drinking coffee, I looked behind the bun. Then take a walk with the pug and go about your business. Everything works practically without you.

Then I carefully and grumbling pick it out with a PENCIL or some wood thread.

For these purposes he "requisitioned" a plastic crochet hook from his wife. Very convenient and safe for the scapula.

Yes, you don't need to run to the store for bread, I agree.But these same products, do you have that at home all the time? You have to bring in different flours, all kinds of yeast, yeast, additives (raisins, seeds ...) Or do you always have them at home? You also have to go to the store and buy everything!

Raisins (I use the drying that I myself have dried - strawberries, raspberries, apricots, apples), and for rye, wheat, corn flour, oatmeal, dry yeast I go every two months.
I myself prepare mixtures for each bread (I measure flour every two weeks and in a 1-1.5 liter jar (medium size bread). When I prepare bread, I pour yeast, sift the flour with a mug into a bucket, add sugar (honey), salt and fill it with water (with cheese, milk, sour milk) and press the button.

And what was the recipe for baking?

Tanya, I'm baking according to the recipe from the instructions. There it is called "Yogurt Bread". Only instead of yogurt I use kefir. And the rest is strictly according to the recipe for 500 g of flour. And for the night, for a reprieve. I have never even seen what kind of bun it turns out. Program 4. Size L. It turns out so nostril, fragrant, gray. At least for soup, at least for tea!

Yes, you don't need to run to the store for bread, I agree. But these same products, do you have that at home all the time? You have to bring in different flours, all kinds of yeast, yeast, additives (raisins, seeds ...) Or do you always have them at home? You also have to go to the store and buy everything!

Nadezhda, I have, for example, flour is always in the house! I immediately buy a package (6 packs of 2 kg), so that it was! Rye also has two bags in stock. And yeast is found constantly. Even without HP, it was so. Pies are always baked! Only extra bags of new flour were added to the pantry, which I learned about here. And as for kefir, milk, mustard-sunflower oil - is that much needed? These "additives" without HP are needed in cooking! But nuts, raisins, sesame seeds, or anything else - this is not always necessary. When you want something like that, you can plan in advance and take it from the store!

For these purposes he "requisitioned" a plastic crochet hook from his wife. Very convenient and safe for the scapula.

I adapted a wooden skewer for kebabs, which are sold in any supermarket.

and I have chopsticks from a sushi bar

and I have chopsticks from a sushi bar

By the way, I also thought about sushi chopsticks.
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The first bread is lumpy
Not baked in places
After 5 minutes of mixing, the stove began to creak a little and smelled very strongly from the ten.
Conclusion: it's her own fault! Still, the curious Varvara's nose was not torn off at the bazaar, the bucket (I read it in the topic about problems and breakdowns), apparently, should have been better installed.

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Congratulations on your first bread!
The bread has risen, baked - this is already good! Correcting mistakes - What was the recipe for baking? How was the flour measured? on the scales? or a glass?

Thank you. It was not baked, later when cutting, it flattened
Baked according to Tanya's recipe, Vit showed a few pages ago.

The first bread was baked according to the Forum's recipe "Ordinary White Bread". A very good recipe for beginners. Basis from the instructions for the bread maker. It turned out great and instilled confidence.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=157574.0

The recipe is the same, only the crust is medium, 1 tsp. yeast and program 02. And also, when the flour was sifted, I did not like the smell, they tried the bread and threw it away. I put the liver to work, I installed the bucket better - it doesn't creak, I replaced the flour. The program is 02 again. The dough, like yesterday, is left in some places.
My liver is on the dishwasher next to the multicooker, is vibration harmful to them?

01 and 02 programs are different. The recipe for ordinary white bread says that this is the beginning of all beginnings and an opportunity to test the oven. I am a beginner and not very experienced baker, so for now I rely on proven forum recipes. 02 mode has not been used yet.

Yes, I understand that they are different, both in the amount of yeast and in time. I'm baking a second time, baking will end soon. HP did not creak, but the strong smell of Ten confuses me.It is not clear, the more it smells, or baked goods, or tenn? Is there something wrong with her?
I have another question. There is a gray circle inside the bucket around the pin, there is dough in the groove around the pin, how can I wash it out? It's scary to climb with a toothpick.
At the bottom of the bucket I found faint stripes, fine sea salt. Maybe salt with sugar in water to dilute?

And today like this



Again "blew off the roof", the crust is lighter than yesterday, and everything is baked, soft, airy.

T. about. the questions at the moment are:
1. I have a stove on the dishwasher next to the multicooker, is vibration harmful to them?
2. Why does it smell strong with teng?
3. How to wash the dough around the pin?
4. Can salt and sugar be diluted in water?
5. Why is the crust lighter than yesterday, all the parameters are the same?

3. How to wash the dough around the pin?

Pour water into a bucket for 5-10 minutes. And then I adjusted the used toothbrush. I wash all inaccessible places with it.
Alena, I think you have a very thick dough in your bread. Take less flour. Look again about the bun from Admin.

T. about. the questions at the moment are:
1. I have a stove on the dishwasher next to the multicooker, is vibration harmful to them?
2. Why does it smell strong with teng?
3. How to wash the dough around the pin?
4. Can salt and sugar be diluted in water?
5. Why is the crust lighter than yesterday, all the parameters are the same?

1. Vibration is by definition harmful (except for sifting flour). All designers struggle with it.
2. It does not smell like heating element, but the heating element itself smells like something. However, one fig ... I hope you wiped it gently with a soft cloth moistened with dishwashing solutions, such as feri, and wiped it dry thoroughly. Then they turned on the baking and fried for 5 minutes. I would do so, but I have no scent of such heating element
3. Soak the dough around the pin, letting stand in water for 5-10 minutes. Then pour out the water and give a strong pressure of water to the pin. All. That is why you do not ask how to pick out the dough from the hole of the shoulder blade - a mystery to me.
4. You can. That's what I do.
5. Crust color depends on the amount of sugar and the baking time. There is in the manual. Probably wrong and did not notice.
And the bread is good! Congratulations!

I pour water immediately after baking, pour hot water into a hot bucket. Thanks for the toothbrush. I have a brush for washing children's dishes.
I read about the kolobok yesterday, at the end of the batch, when the program started to climb, I touched the kolobok, it stuck to my fingers.
Honestly, I like today's bread more. Cool under a towel, but not to room temperature, impatient. Was still lukewarm.

1. Vibration is by definition harmful (except for sifting flour). All designers struggle with it.
2. It does not smell like heating element, but the heating element itself smells like something. However, one fig ... I hope you wiped it gently with a soft cloth moistened with dishwashing solutions, such as feri, and wiped it dry thoroughly. Then they turned on the baking and fried for 5 minutes. I would do so, but I have no scent of such heating element
3. Soak the dough around the pin, letting stand in water for 5-10 minutes. Then pour out the water and give a strong pressure of water to the pin. All. That is why you do not ask how to pick out the dough from the hole of the shoulder blade - a mystery to me.
4. You can. That's what I do.
5. The color of the crust depends on the amount of sugar and the baking time. There is in the manual. Probably wrong and did not notice.
And the bread is good! Congratulations!

At the expense of vibration, so should I remove the stove from the dishwasher or not?
Ten simply wiped it with a damp cloth. So, I will do as you wrote.
I do not pick out anything from the spatula, I wash it with a strong stream of water, after the bucket together with the spatula has turned off in the water.
About the crust. I did everything exactly as yesterday, without adding or subtracting. I just replaced the flour.

At the expense of vibration, should I remove the stove from the dishwasher or not?

I would remove.

Thank you, I will. I will move to the floor for the duration of my work, I hope I will not be offended

Tanya, I'm baking according to the recipe from the instructions. There it is called "Yogurt Bread".Only instead of yogurt I use kefir.

Thank you, Irochka, I'll take a note!

My liver is on the dishwasher next to the multicooker, is vibration harmful to them?

I have had a Dex 60 next to the multicooker for a year already, on the table (not on a strong tabletop), and this table does not shake weakly when the HP is working, we even spread it with foam plastic against the wall to slightly reduce the vibration, and, according to the building level, set HP strictly so that stood on a horizontal surface, sometimes even when the multi is turned on, it works as a batch, while, mmm, it's normal. And nowhere else to remove. I used to have HP next to the microwave. So I read that when the micra is working, electronics on neighboring devices can wrap up, someone wrote about kitchen scales that they began to work incorrectly when the microwave was on. And HP is not a scale for the price, so I changed some places out of harm's way and now stands next to the cartoon. I can't put it differently.

Alena, I would not "torment" the stove with rearrangements. PMM is not a washing machine. And the stove itself does not vibrate too sickly, I saw it myself. In any case, if I had the opportunity to master the PMM-shnuyu countertop, I would not hesitate for a minute, I would have forced it with everyone that is now on a separate shelf. By the way, Tanya, half a meter under the microwave. Well, I have nowhere else!

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Honestly, I wanted to show the general plan ...

the photo on click does not increase. everyone has

Both HP and a multicooker (without pressure) worked for me at the same time, so the lid of the latter turned from vibration and it began to squeak. So I thought that, probably, we should lower her to the floor, there is no one to vibrate

the photo on click does not increase. everyone has

Corrected. Something these iPhotos are being cut with us.

Corrected. Something these iPhotos are being cut with us.

And I, chatting, wanted to see the machine next to the Krutyak bread maker! I'm going to ask, what is this?

And I, chatting, wanted to see the machine next to the Krutyak bread maker! I'm going to ask, what is it?

Both I and I! Marin, intrigued! I almost looked with a magnifying glass and did not understand!

Both I and I! Marin, intrigued! I almost looked with a magnifying glass and did not understand!

Coffee machine. You see, it's in my profile. And it is not cool at all, but quite budget. But he does his job perfectly.

Coffee machine. You see, it's in my profile. And it is not cool at all, but quite budget. But he does his job perfectly.

Duc, once you figure out what it says! All letters are foreign. Current Phillips and took apart, because I have such a telly. And even like a gallop. I’m even afraid to imagine what it is. And the coffee machine is ... there are no words. Probably George Clooney, too? And then everywhere he has coffee tyryat all sorts of aunts Though you have coffee pampered. Good girl!

And the coffee machine is ... there are no words. Probably George Clooney, too? And then everywhere he has coffee, all sorts of aunts

And all I thought was some kind of space design combine ... Tundra!

Duc, once you figure out what it says! All letters are foreign. Current Phillips and took apart, because I have such a telly. And even like a gallop. I’m even afraid to imagine what it is. And the coffee machine is ... there are no words. Probably George Clooney, too? And then everywhere he has coffee tyryat all sorts of aunts Though you have coffee pampered. Good girl!

Clooney won't be good. I have a fisherman, he is also fond of "hand-to-hand" fighting.
A "gallop" is an airfryer. It's just not on the list.
Rina, I'm sorry we're not talking about that.