Lagri
In the Panasonic SD-2502 bread maker, you can bake Borodino bread and whatever you want. The stove is super! Yeast dough also kneads and stands, and there is more than one program for this. It works very quietly, only the sound of the yeast dispenser, when opened, is audible. Malt can be found if desired. And new models are unlikely to be in the near future, I think, and there is no need to wait. About the function of yogurt - this is not a bread maker. but rather to the multicooker. So - go ahead for the purchase of Panasonic.
Wolverine
Quote: Lagri

In the Panasonic SD-2502 bread maker, you can bake Borodino bread and whatever you want. The stove is super! Yeast dough also kneads and stands, and moreover, there is more than one program for this. It works very quietly, only the sound of the yeast dispenser, when opened, is audible. Malt can be found if desired. And new models are unlikely to be in the near future, I think, and you shouldn't wait. About the function of yogurt - this is not a bread maker. but rather to the multicooker. So - go ahead for the purchase of Panasonic.
Thank you!
Yumay
Please tell me, is there a proven recipe for Borodino bread for model 2502? There is no such recipe in its instructions.
George
Quote: Yumay

Please tell me, is there a proven recipe for Borodino bread for model 2502? There is no such recipe in its instructions.
Brewed bread in the instructions for the oven. There, only with water you need to be careful, according to the instructions I did not work out very well, dull and shrunken, reduced the amount of water by 20 ml, it turned out better, but unmixed flour remained in the corners. If you put granulated sugar instead of honey, then water as in the instructions for 330 ml.
My recipe, slightly modified:
Dry yeast - 2 tsp
Wheat flour - 250 gr.
Rye flour 300 gr.
Salt 1.5 tsp
Oil (no matter what) 2 tbsp. l. Here the taste of the oil does not change
Rye malt 4 tbsp l. I bought a ready-made wort for kvass in a store in a liter jar, very bad, dark, viscous, with the addition of barley malt. Brew in 80 ml of boiling water and stir. I put the wort with a spoon without a slide, that is, I scooped it up in a jar and wait until the excess drains from the spoon.
honey 2 tbsp. spoons, you can 2 tbsp. tablespoons of sugar, because the wort interrupts the taste of honey, and the specific bitterness from honey is not felt, but authenticity requires honey, because at the beginning of the 19th century in Russia sugar was an expensive premium product available only to the nobility, everyone used honey.
Coriander 1 tsp powder and a pinch of grains, I put the powder together with flour, grains, heat in a mortar and sprinkle on the bun when the kneading is over, about in the middle of the rise.
Cumin 3/4 - 1 tsp also into flour.
Water 310-330 ml. If instead of honey there is sugar, then 330 ml, well, look by eye how much wort was added. Well, it also depends on flour, more cheap flour, less expensive flour. it has been experimentally established that the best wheat is Makfa, and rye from Yulka Vysotskaya, bread rises best and tastes better.
Pour the dry product down into the HP, liquid on top, stir the malt in boiling water vigorously to cool and completely dissolve in the same place.
The program "Rye bread" and waiting for the bread, kneaded, began to stand, sprinkled with crushed coriander seeds (you don't need a lot of them, no more pinch)
I also did not understand the catch from the rye flour nozzle, the usual nozzle interferes with this mass much better.
sazalexter
Quote: Yumay

Please tell me, is there a proven recipe for Borodino bread for model 2502? There is no such recipe in its instructions.
Borodinsky, one of the most difficult breads, take your time with it, take recipes from here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=263.0 and from here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=265.0 a lot of sweets here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=262.0 and of course here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=264.0
Lazy
Quote: vitalya_pn

I found recipes for my own 2501 bread maker, only on the English site, and what we see is absolutely everything else. And now the oil appeared, and there was much less water. The whole book will need to be revised in English.

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
Yes. There are many proven excellent recipes on the Forum, I myself have been using many for a long time. But I always pay attention to this, and many times, not only in bakery, I have come across this. Sometimes, in general, some information is missed or distorted (probably based on considerations or errors of translators).
Galinka-Malinka
Quote: vitalya_pn

There is not a word about butter in the recipe. Did you do everything exactly according to the recipe? The water-flour ratio, or did you change something?
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

According to this recipe, I bake repeatedly bread, there is no bran, instead I add either oatmeal or corn flakes (those that are for breakfast). It makes great bread. The only thing that at the beginning of the kneading with a spatula collected flour in the corners.
Mona1
Good evening everyone, I haven't looked here for a long time. Please tell me, program 10 in Panas 2501 - Is single grain bread made from Whole grain flour ?. And if someone bakes this, can you tell me some good recipe option, perhaps with a combination of whole grain wheat and some other flour or a link .. Otherwise, I have never baked with such flour, I bought it, I want to try it. It is also possible that the kneading and proofing is in HP, and baking is in the oven. This is how I bake all my bread now.
marinastom
Tan, hello!
I already forgot pure white bread when I baked it. And with one whole grain I didn't like it either. I mix everything a little, sometimes I add a little ready-made mixtures, well, there: 8-10 cereals, Gallic, Borodinsky.
Mona1
Quote: marinastom

sometimes I add a little ready-made mixtures, well, there: 8-10 cereals,
Marin, and these are special mixtures for baking, or we just have a mixture of cereals - such as flakes, steamed porridge.
marinastom
Yes, Tan, special blends. You have them too, they even bring yours to us. Googled. But from one mixture I don't like it either. So I arrange the mixes.
Mona1
Quote: marinastom

Yes, Tan, special blends. You have them too, they even bring yours to us. Googled. But from one mixture I don't like it either. So I arrange the mixes.
We will search with mother-of-pearl buttons.
Rina
It is cheaper and safer to mix it yourself. And then it is not known what the manufacturer mixed there, what palm fat (margarine), what improvers or anti-caking agents.
A-liona
Hello, everyone. I want a bread maker for a long time. Tell me, please, if you don't rely on the price, which one should you take - 2501 or 2502?
sazalexter
A-liona Panasonic SD-2501
A-liona
A-liona
I have been reading topics about Panasonic for a long time. Until I understand a thing, it seems that everything is so complicated. I would have appeared sooner, I would have started to sort it out. It's good that there are not 10 Panasonic cars, otherwise I would have gotten confused. Yesterday I saw 2502 live in the store - krasaaaaaavitsa))
sazalexter
A-liona Just in the 2502 yeast dispenser, many, including myself, think that this is an extra gadget.
A-liona
Yes, thank you, I already understood that there is this dispenser that does not let people sleep at night. And so there are no more differences? Well, apart from the looks, of course.
sazalexter
A-liona no more differences
Wolverine
Quote: sazalexter

A-liona Just in the 2502 yeast dispenser, many, including myself, think that this is an extra gadget.
What are the differences between 2501 and 2502? And why is the yeast dispensary unnecessary? I, like the previous author, do not understand anything ...
lega
Quote: Wolverine

What are the differences between 2501 and 2502? And why is the yeast dispensary unnecessary? I, like the previous author, do not understand anything ...

A yeast dispenser, not entirely superfluous, but far from mandatory. After all, it is only in KhP 2502, but everyone else bakes bread. In addition, it is exclusively for dry yeast, and many then switch to pressed or sourdough. In this case, the yeast dispenser becomes absolutely unnecessary. So choose from these two HPs solely by design, the presence of a yeast dispenser can be neglected.
Wit
Quote: Wolverine

What are the differences between 2501 and 2502?
There are also differences: the 2502 case is wrapped with a shiny piece of iron (for design, weight and price). But there is also very useful the difference, which is forgotten in the heat of the purchased excitement: having NOT bought the 2502nd, with the saved money you buy electronic scales, without which you can’t do it! And if the scales are already there, then buy some tasty food for your beloved.
Elena 65
Quote: A-liona

Hello, everyone. I want a bread maker for a long time. Tell me, please, if you don't rely on the price, which one should you take - 2501 or 2502?
I have a 2502-very "beautiful" model, to tell the truth I do not use some modes (fast, dietary), but I am very happy with two dispensers, very CONVENIENT. And by the way we sleep well
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

There are also differences: the 2502 case is wrapped with a shiny piece of iron (for design, weight and price). But there is also very useful the difference, which is forgotten in the heat of the purchased excitement: having NOT bought the 2502nd, with the saved money you buy an electronic scale, without which you can’t do it! And if the scales are already there, then buy some tasty food for your beloved.
Vitaly read carefully ... Hello, everyone ................ Please tell me if you do not rely on the price, .................?
Wit
Oh!
A-liona
Thanks to everyone who responded. We have electronic scales. I saw dry yeast on sale, flour of different types too, but I don't know where to get the leaven. And also, I read that the stove needs to be checked, winter has finally come to us, we need it to warm up, and the courier won't wait. How to be?
I really like this little man. It's hard to keep from laughing.
Jaroslava 333
Quote: Elena 65

I have a 2502-very "beautiful" model, to tell the truth I do not use some modes (fast, dietary), but I am very happy with two dispensers, very CONVENIENT. And by the way we sleep well
I also bought this model, very beautiful, bribed a stainless steel case, it looks stylish and in tune with all the rest of the kitchen appliances! I was also very pleased with the fact that it works silently (except for a dispensary for yeast, but these are such trifles ...) Especially when there is something to compare with (this is already the 3rd bakery in 8 years, the last Philips) has worked for almost 5 years, but the bucket began to leak ...)
I put my first bread in this oven for baking, I took the recipe from a book - instructions in the bread maker, we'll see the result in 4 hours ... I think everything will be fine!
Mona1
Quote: A-liona

but where to get the leaven - I don't know.
Basically, people here grow sourdoughs themselves, there are a lot of them and for every taste, but this is a rather foolish business. Perhaps they are on sale, take a look, here on the forum everything about yeast
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=172.0
I gave up sourdough a long time ago, because it was foolish and because I worry all the time: what has it grown there? Well, I'm not a microbiologist, like all of us, we don't have special equipment to check the composition of the leaven. That is why I bake without sourdough method at a minimum of pressed yeast using a long dough.
Wit
Quote: A-liona

And also, I read that the stove needs to be checked, winter has finally come to us, we need it to warm up, and the courier won't wait. How to be?
I don’t even know ... There are three options:
1. Cross yourself and release the courier (this is what I do)
2. To detain the courier (how - the options are dark!)
3. When ordering (you can try it after, before delivery), demand to check the bread maker before delivery with a note in the receipt (sellers will fall into a stupor from such impudence).
You're in luck! Good luck!
Mona1
Quote: A-liona

... And also, I read that the stove needs to be checked, winter has finally come to us, we need it to warm up, and the courier won't wait. How to be?
Check after heating. If something goes wrong, immediately call the store and say that the stove does not fit, because if you haven’t baked anything there yet, you can exchange it within 14 days (in Ukraine, maybe Russia too) They will come and bring another, I think without additional shipping charges. Did the courier bring you her from a local store? But if it came by mail from some nonresident online store, then they will also change it, but then sending the stove and returning the new one will be at your expense.
That's why I always try to look in the shops of my city.
A-liona
Wit, thanks. Tatyana, I will definitely not grow it, so I don’t know what to do with it, from which side to approach it, and then I still need to grow something.
Mona1
Quote: A-liona

Wit, thanks. Tatyana, I will definitely not grow it, so I don’t know what to do with it, from which side to approach it, and then I still need to grow something.
Alena, don't worry, everything will work out. Right now it seems that it is difficult, and then you yourself will be surprised how simple everything is. When the stove is already with you, then you can ask about all the misunderstandings here in Temko, and if you want me to write in a personal message, I will tell you how to start this fascinating activity - baking bread.
Wit
Quote: A-liona

Wit, thanks. Tatyana, I will definitely not grow it, so I don’t know what to do with it, from which side to approach it, and then I still need to grow something.

A-liona, I found my old post as early as June 11, where I taught a brand new bake the first bread, which she didn’t work well. Under my strict guidance, she got bread. I think the first one should be baked according to the instructions below, the second one and then bake according to Tanya's lessons. Good luck to you!

Can I still torment you?
So I bake regular white bread. Size M, BUT I put 2 spoons of yeast in the compartment So? The rest is on the list. The only thing I do not have scales at the moment, there is a mug where the size is written 390 ml, the rest of the mugs I don’t know how much. You need 400 grams of prescription flour, how many mugs are needed?

Yes pzhalsta! We start in order.
1. We take the freshly bought fresh yeast "Saf-moment". Pour yeast into a small cup, called a "teaspoon" in the instructions. Open up the yeast dispenser and show him fig. And pour the yeast into a bucket.
We repeat the operation. So, in a bucket there are TWO teaspoons (small cups) of yeast.
2. We take a bag of flour, check with the post that our moderator Rina sent us Today at 12:52. This is higher. You have already read everything there and now you know that "250 milliliters (a standard glass) is only 160 grams of flour" This means that taking 2 glasses of flour we get 160x2 = 320 grams. We take another half glass. It will be 160: 2 = 80gr. We add to our 320gr. We get 320 + 80 = 400gr!
3. Sift the flour through a sieve. Flour is mixed with air and ... well, that's how it should be!
4. Fall asleep carefully, so as not to dust, in a bucket right on the yeast.
YESaaaaa !!!!!!!! The BUCKET should be taken out of the bread machine and stand on the table, on a stool or wherever it is convenient for you.
Here!
5. Fill in 260 ml. some water from the measuring cup supplied with the bread maker.
6. Fall asleep for 1 hour. l. salt, 1 TABLE. l. sugar and 1 tbsp. l. sunflower. oils.
7. Carefully and slowly place the bucket in the bread maker, twisting it slightly until it locks into the rotation unit.
8. REMEMBER if you forgot to install the stirrer in the bucket. It seems that they have installed it - it is not on the table and under the table.
9. We turn on the bread maker in the network - "01" appears on the display ... or something else. We put program 02 by poking into the "Menu" button. Then M, middle.
All!
10. Press the "Start" button
We hear "Zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh" - the batch has begun.
We open the lid (if you forgot to close it, then you don’t need to open it anymore) and look fascinated as the spatula (fortunately it is not forgotten) begins to twirl everything that you put there. You can not climb there with a spatula in your hands. The machine will knead everything by itself and pick it up. If the nerves are already losing, then break off the adhering strip of dough from the wall or in the corner. How to take part in the batch. Follow the scoreboard! When the mixing stops and the "Rise" mode turns on, immediately close the lid and run to another room. Then I already wrote what to do!
You will succeed!!!


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Elena 65
Quote: Wit

Oh!
Elena 65
Quote: A-liona

Thanks to everyone who responded. We have electronic scales. I saw dry yeast on sale, flour of different types too, but I don't know where to get the leaven.And also, I read that the stove needs to be checked, winter has finally come to us, we need it to warm up, and the courier won't wait. How to be?
I really like this little man. It's hard to keep from laughing.
When the courier arrives, turn on the Pizza mode, the display is on, the motor is spinning, great. Press STOP and hold for several seconds, the program has been reset. We press the Baking mode - by hand we catch the heat from the heating element, turn off the heating and sign for receipt. We calmly react to the courier's impatience and do it our way. He won't leave without a signature.
Wit
Yes, no way to turn it on! Frost on the street. It is not recommended to take the stove out of the box for two hours.
Elena 65
Quote: Mona1

Basically, people here grow sourdoughs themselves, there are a lot of them and for every taste, but this is a rather foolish business. Perhaps they are for sale, take a look, here on the forum everything about leavens
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=172.0
I gave up sourdough a long time ago, because it is foolish and because I worry all the time: what has it grown there? Well, I'm not a microbiologist, like all of us, we don't have special equipment to check the composition of the leaven. That is why I bake without sourdough method at a minimum of pressed yeast using a long dough.
I also bake with dry SAF golden yeast, France. I only hover over the kolobok at the beginning of the batch (in my opinion everyone does this, they control the kolobok) and sometimes I add a lift. Of the additives, as a result of the samples, only flax seed - ground in a mill, raisins, prunes, pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds for sprinkling remained.
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

Yes, no way to turn it on right away! Frost on the street. It is not recommended to take the stove out of the box for two hours.
Vitaly, what is your temperature? Yesterday I talked to my sister Nizhny Novgorod, she says that they have the same temperature as we do in Ukraine. And in Ukraine only today it got colder -3 at night, in the afternoon +3
Wit
Also +3. And when the bread maker is brought, it may be -20. Business, of course, is the master's.

DIRECTLY NOT NOTICE !!! Urrraaaaa !!!!!
THIS IS MY 1000TH MESSAGE !!!!! I'll go and drink some brandy!
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

Also +3. And when the bread maker is brought, it may be -20. Business, of course, is the master's.
Well, if -20, I wouldn’t risk it either, I bought mine in February, checked it at the carrier’s warehouse, our temperature doesn’t drop so low, but at that moment I didn’t even think about the temperature, I had concerns about how the car arrived in the working condition or not. Therefore, she pressed the buttons and turned on Ten, forgetting about the temperature.
Congratulations on the Jubilee from you "Polyana", and where did you see the message number?
irman
Quote: Elena 65

Vitaly, what is your temperature? Yesterday I talked to my sister Nizhny Novgorod, she says that they have the same temperature as we do in Ukraine.
Flax, and we have today in Nizhny -11 °
Elena 65
Quote: Irman

Flax, and we have today in Nizhny -11 °
Yes, I noticed that we in the Dnieper "walk under God" around us blizzards, ice, drifts, and the sun in the Dnieper. The driver who brings the goods to us from Poland is constantly amazed, this is how he will pass through Ukraine and we have the South, the sun, even sunbathe. This is probably why he spends the night in the Dnieper, he warms up himself and the car thaws. But in general, I love my city, I really didn’t want to move to it 11 years ago, and now I have warm feelings for the city.
Wit
Quote: Elena 65


Congratulations on the Jubilee from you "Polyana", and where did you see the message number?
Under the avatar.
Mona1
Quote: Wit

DIRECTLY NOT NOTICE !!! Urrraaaaa !!!!!
THIS IS MY 1000TH MESSAGE !!!!! I'll go and drink some brandy!
So there, probably, and the fourth bun was added in honor of the anniversary above the avatar! Congratulations!
Wit
Thank you! But I didn't count the buns! I don't remember how many there were
Jaroslava 333
I baked bread, I took the smallest size so that I could bake it fresh every day or every other day (I don’t eat bread myself, I only bake it for children) ... It turned out great, only you need to choose a dark crust, otherwise it turned out to be pale ... It tastes too I liked it, with the experience of baking bread for almost 8 years I have never used the recipes from the instructions - today for the first time, in general, the debut!
The stove is just super in every way!
Mona1
Quote: Jaroslava 333

It turned out great, only now you need to choose a dark crust, otherwise it turned out pale on the middle ...
This is because new, in a month everything will be tanned.
Jaroslava 333
Quote: Mona1

This is because new, in a month everything will be tanned.
Thanks for the advice ! The pale one is also not critical, but I would like it to be darker ...

Dear members of the forum, please poke your nose into the topic where there are already ready-made calculations regarding the snooze timer for Panasonic, I came across for a long time, and now, when I need it, I can't find ...
A-liona
I’m reading and reading everything, there’s a mess in my head. I have forgotten, but what to do with dry yeast in 2501, if it does not have the very dispenser that throws them at a certain moment.

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