Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

[Wit]

Wit, and at 2500 the blade does not bend?)
I stopped at these two models for the rye bread program

This is how mine bakes both rye and Borodinsky! Yes, here on the previous page and wrote about it. Turn the page back.

, I choose between 2501 and 2502. In the second, I like the stainless steel case, I like this technique outwardly.
But what about the functionality? Is she really more "able" than 2501? or can you not overpay?

You don't have to overpay.
2501 and 2502 differ only in body material.
I have 2501 - I am very pleased, although I certainly had to take 2502 for the kitchen.
If there is a particular fondness for stainless steel and, in general, for appearance, compatibility with the interior and other equipment, then 2502.

I bought model 2501. I bake bread for the third time. But bad luck, today I decided to bake gray bread on mode 05. I did everything according to the recipe. I set the necessary mode 05, size L, but the color of the crust is not set, even the cursor does not appear. What is it? Marriage? Or in some modes, the color of the crust is set by the bread maker itself? Before that, I baked white quick bread on mode 02, the bread maker allowed to set the crust color with the cursor. Here I sit and worry. Answer, connoisseurs-bakers, hurry up, please spare my nerves.

Dont worry. Everything is working correctly.
The instructions on page 12 contain a table of bread and dough.
There, for each mode in the cells (size, timer, crust color) there are circles that can be set.
For mode 05, only size.
And for rye bread 07, neither size nor crust, only a timer.

You made the right choice. I haven't eaten store-bought bread in a year and a half and I don't want to.

I will add, it is better to use the full mode, the dough must stand. Quick bread is already unbearable

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I bought model 2501. I bake bread for the third time. But bad luck, today I decided to bake gray bread on mode 05. I did everything according to the recipe. I set the necessary mode 05, size L, but the color of the crust is not set, even the cursor does not appear. What is it? Marriage? Or in some modes, the color of the crust is set by the bread maker itself? Before that, I baked white quick bread on mode 02, the bread maker allowed to set the crust color with the cursor. Here I sit and worry. Answer, connoisseurs-bakers, hurry up, please spare my nerves.

I think that this is according to the program, although I myself did not bake in this mode. According to the table for 5 programs. timer and crust DASH

I also wanted to ask. here is, for example, a model 2501 in a local store of UAH 1425, and on the Internet I found this stove for 1150. Don't believe it?))) such a difference in price, it seems like I want to save money, but it seems scary

You don't have to overpay.
2501 and 2502 differ only in body material.
I have 2501 - I am very pleased, although I certainly had to take 2502 for the kitchen.
If there is a particular fondness for stainless steel and, in general, for appearance, compatibility with the interior and other equipment, then 2502.

Incorrect answer. Differences in the body and the presence of two dispensers (additives and yeast). For me, the presence of a yeast dispenser is very important, I love pastries for breakfast (only with these two functions does it allow you to put the pastry at night) I have 2502-I really like the case, although this is not the most important factor for me when choosing

I also wanted to ask. here is, for example, a model 2501 in a local store of UAH 1425, and on the Internet I found this stove for 1150. Don't believe it?))) such a difference in price, it seems like I want to save money, but it seems scary

This may be, it is already at your discretion who to buy from. I prefer the store more.

the presence of two dispensers (additives and yeast). For me, the presence of a yeast dispenser is very important, I like baking for breakfast (only with these two functions does it allow you to put baking at night)

What nonsense? You don't need a yeast dispenser for this. Yeast to the bottom, then flour and gently liquid on top. How does everyone else do without this dispenser? How does it thunder? Yes, if in the middle of the night .... So do not confuse people.

I also wanted to ask. here is, for example, a model 2501 in a local store of UAH 1425, and on the Internet I found this stove for 1150. Don't believe it?))) such a difference in price, it seems like I want to save money, but it seems scary

I bought it through an Internet store, checked it upon receipt, and use it with pleasure. The main thing is to unpack and run the program. Baking for several sec. (The heating element heats up normally) then the program. Pizza - engine running - OK. Click through all programs - check the display. Smell of plastic, strong when opened - better not to take

What nonsense? The presence of a yeast dispenser is not necessary at all for this. Yeast to the bottom, then flour and gently liquid on top. How does everyone else do without this dispenser? How does it thunder? Yes, if in the middle of the night .... So do not confuse people.

But for me, it's nonsense to throw raisins into milk for 8 hours. And I have nothing to rattle - you are confusing people. I am a user of this device and I know better

And I wrote about the yeast dispenser. What does it have to do with raisins?
And what a dispenser for yeast thunders strongly all wrote. I never invent anything.

And I wrote about the yeast dispenser. What does it have in common with raisins?

The recommendation was given for both dispensers, since only two positions allow baking bread with additives with a delayed start. And as for the yeast So it knocks, not loudly - while the new one, then the spring is developed and there is NO knocking, so much "advertised".
And about - so they write - on the fences too ...

[Rina]

It is difficult to hurt me with capillary syrup, but here's the lubricant ...! Rina, pzhalsta, you can learn more !!! What kind of lubricant? I did not find it in the instructions. They do not specifically write that they would carry it to the service. Or maybe just sunflower oil?

Vit, I'm just a housewife. But I suspect that there must be some kind of lubricant in the mixer unit, even with fluoroplastic seals. By the way, I just remembered that small black balls appeared at the bottom of the knot - I suspect that this dough was pressed through, and then burned out. When my agitator shaft began to slow down, I just dropped a couple of times with the most common household lubricating oil on the shank (where the spring is of such a cunning shape), the oil did not seem to get into the baked goods.

I also wanted to ask. here is, for example, a model 2501 in a local store of UAH 1425, and on the Internet I found this stove for 1150. Don't believe it?))) such a difference in price, it seems like I want to save money, but it seems scary

In online stores, managers on the phone and drivers (couriers) most often work, so the surcharge to the warehouse price is less than in a stationary store. The local store also includes the cost of premises (rent and / or maintenance), salaries for employees and a bunch of trade-related costs in the price.

And I wrote about the yeast dispenser. What does it have to do with raisins?
And what a dispenser for yeast thunders strongly all wrote. I never invent anything.

In this case, you are simply misled. Yes - it rattles, yes - it rattles terribly. About it many wrote. But many do not thunder. In this your namesake is right. So - how lucky.
But about the need for a yeast dispenser, I remain unconvinced: a very dubious gadget, worth under a thousand

Vit, I'm just a housewife. But I suspect that there must be some kind of lubricant in the mixer unit, even with fluoroplastic seals.By the way, I just remembered that small black balls appeared at the bottom of the knot - I suspect that this dough was squeezed through, and then burned out. When my agitator shaft began to slow down, I just dropped a couple of times with the most common household lubricating oil on the shank (where the spring is of such a cunning shape), the oil did not seem to get into the baked goods.

Thank Rina! I accept it.

[Thanks for the complete and friendly answer.]

I will add, it is better to use the full mode, the dough must stand. Quick bread is already unbearable

Thanks for the complete and friendly answer.... I live in England and I so lack the bread that is familiar to me. And the bread maker simply bakes "bread from childhood". The same taste and smell, and this bread is well stored. On your advice, now buse full mode only 5 hours.
I was in Russia last year and was unpleasantly surprised by the quality of the bread. The taste is completely different and the smell is also different. On the second day, it is already impossible to eat.
How glad I am that I came to this forum, and its members encouraged me to buy a bread machine. Story! Now I am with you "forever". I will use your knowledge and skills, learn from you.
Thanks a lot, everyone

Let the one who has it write about the yeast dispenser. He often helps me out and the sound does not annoy him at all, and sometimes it helps - I know that I have started kneading the dough and can follow the bun. The sound is not scary and does not scare anyone in the house, they do not even notice, we are accustomed to and are not always near the stove when it starts to knead. You scare everyone with this dispenser so much, I don't know why ... And the stainless steel case does not get dirty, as some people write. The stove is very good, I recommend it. I have never regretted that I bought it.

No one scares anyone with a yeast dispenser. But it is also not worth arguing that this thing is simply necessary. All other models do without it perfectly.

[Waist]

Waist, I'm sorry, but how can a draft (through what?) affect baking in a bread maker? I drove my own onto the balcony, in the same place the laundry is drying, the windows are open so that it dries faster (it's still blowing!) - everything is fine (there is a photo on the previous pages). I would advise you to look at the voltage in the outlet - it is usually higher at night, and therefore in the morning the loaf is more beautiful. For a year now I have been connecting the HP through a voltage stabilizer, the jokes with light and low breads have stopped.

The bottom of the bread machine is all in the holes and in the walls there are also holes or even empty cavities. I believe that because of the constant jumps in temperature, the calm warm kitchen air, the daughter and the dog rushed past, then the door was opened wide and the wind burst from the street ... HP simply does not have time or does not know how to deal with these "cataclysms" cope. All this affects the result. Maria, I'm not saying, maybe it's just that I'm so "lucky"
And the voltage drops in the network here do not happen such that they affect the operation of electrical devices and stabilizers are not used here.

It is difficult to hurt me with capillary syrup, but here's the lubricant ...! Rina, pzhalsta, you can learn more !!! What kind of lubricant? I did not find it in the instructions. They do not specifically write that they would carry it to the service. Or just sunflower oil?

Vitaliy, you CANNOT use sunflower oil The equipment will deteriorate. Then you will definitely have to clean up the service, if you have to, or even throw it away. It's a mechanism, not a food product.
Now there are such lubricants that are enough for years of work. The mechanism may break, and the lubrication will be excellent. So there is no need to go there unnecessarily.

MAIN THING - all these ovens bake delicious bread!

If my husband sees that the bread is running out, and the new one is not yet baked, he starts to panic. How is he left without his favorite bread? I tell him: "Everything will be on time" But at the very beginning he believed that HP is a whim

Vitaliy, you CANNOT use sunflower oil The equipment will deteriorate. Then you will definitely have to clean up the service, if you have to, or even throw it out. It's a mechanism, not a food product.
Now there are such lubricants that are enough for years of work.The mechanism may break, and the lubrication will be excellent. So there is no need to go there unnecessarily.

Thank you Natasha! I will take note. However, I doubt that sunflower oil can harm the rotary shaft. But I will not risk it. I will obey you.

Thank you Natasha! I will take note. However, I doubt that sunflower oil can harm the rotary shaft. But I will not risk it. I will obey you.

Sunflower oil tends to thicken, become a sticky film and block the rotation mechanism tightly. And then nothing can be removed from this byaka, if only the whole mechanism is soaked in a solvent of some kind

For these purposes, it is better to use specials. oil for lubricating mechanisms, machine oil.

Sunflower oil tends to thicken, become a sticky film and block the rotation mechanism tightly. And then nothing can be removed from this byaka, if only the whole mechanism is soaked in a solvent of some kind

For these purposes, it is better to use specials. oil for lubricating mechanisms, machine oil.

I forgot about this property of sunflower oil !!! I agree with you completely. Thank you!

Oh, thanks for the answers.
This is their series - and want to, and pricks.
On the one hand, I like the technique in a metal case, and the yeast dispenser is unlikely to be a great advantage for me personally, I hope that I will eventually succeed in arriving at sourdough bread.
And then there is the price and place of purchase. 2501 is a local store (or rather, this is also an online store, but we have a pick-up point in the city and they will bring the stove home), and 2502 is to order online, because in ordinary household appliances stores, the price bites very much.
Even then, the question is - is there accidentally some kind of black list of online stores, for example)))) where you shouldn't take it.
In general, with this thought, you probably need to sleep at night)

With any thought you need to "sleep" if in doubt.

Oh, I came to cry. Pekla curl with poppy seeds, the dough was thin and burst. The filling leaked and fried. I pulled out the curl, and there were "kazinaki with poppy seeds" at the bottom. I took a wooden spoon and scraped it off. I scratched the bottom with this burnt sugar.The scratches are not deep, superficial, but they are

I took a wooden spoon and scraped it off. I scratched the bottom with this burnt sugar.The scratches are not deep, superficial, but they are

Why scrape with a spoon? Burnt sugar goes well if you pour hot water into a bucket and let it stand. There will be nothing for a bucket from such a bath, because jam is provided for cooking in a x / oven, which contains a lot of sugar. After the jam, after all, I wash my bucket with water

Why scrape with a spoon? Burnt sugar goes well if you pour hot water into a bucket and let it stand. There will be nothing for a bucket from such a bath, because jam is provided for cooking in a x / oven, which contains a lot of sugar. After the jam, after all, I wash my bucket with water

I know how to wash, but these kazinaki were given to me, my husband loves this very much, so I pulled it out. They were still warm and easily pulled out with a spoon, but they left a memory of themselves. And with this wooden spoon I always help the dough in the bucket, if necessary and everything is fine.

Oh, thanks for the answers.
This is their series - and want to, and prick.
On the one hand, I like the technique in a metal case, and the yeast dispenser is unlikely to be a great advantage for me personally, I hope that I will eventually succeed in arriving at sourdough bread.
And then there is the price and place of purchase. 2501 is a local store (or rather, this is also an online store, but we have a pick-up point in the city and they will bring the stove home), and 2502 is to order online, because in ordinary household appliances stores, the price bites very much.
Even then, the question is - is there accidentally some kind of black list of online stores, for example)))) where it is definitely not worth taking.
In general, with this thought, you probably need to sleep at night)

I live in Dnepropetrovsk, but I ordered it in the Kharkov Internet store. The rating can be viewed on such sites
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There are reviews on the work of sellers and their ratings. By the way, they sent me a package from Odessa. Advice - buy cash on delivery - there is a chance to refuse if something is wrong. Upon receipt, they unpacked, checked and that's it.
In general, I took a risk, bought a "European" without a guarantee. Everything works like clockwork
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And with this wooden spoon I always help the dough in the bucket, if necessary, and everything is in order.

I swore to climb a plastic tree in a bucket! As my home cooked the pan on the multi-cooker, I removed it from sight. Now only silicone.

I swore to climb a plastic tree in a bucket! As my home cooked the pan on the multi-cooker, I removed it from sight. Now only silicone.

I also have silicone, only solid. And I constantly pour water to the level of the scapula, and then mine.

Oh, I came to cry. Pekla curl with poppy seeds, the dough was thin and burst. The filling leaked and fried. I pulled out the curl, and there were "kazinaki with poppy seeds" at the bottom. I took a wooden spoon and scraped it off. I scratched the bottom with this burnt sugar.The scratches are not deep, superficial, but they are

Natasha, don't cry! I think these scratches are not critical. My dear man left a fork on my shoulder blade - he tried to pick out a spatula from bread with a fork. Nothing, does not stick to the dough, from bread, well, very, rarely is not removed.

Happy Birthday, Marinochka!



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[Marina, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!]

I join in the congratulations! Marina, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! All the best to you and successful bakery products!
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Thank you, dear ones! I love you all. How wonderful that I have you!

Marina, happy birthday, health, love, good luck in all your endeavors

That's it, I ordered the stove 2501, they should bring it next week) I hope the scales will arrive in time

Oh, I chose, I chose ... We ordered a stove 2502, my husband went to pick it up, and there it is defective. I looked at their availability in stores, or only in the windows, I suspect they are not new either (((And the price ... is already running up to 9000. In general, my choice has now settled on 2501. Fortunately, they are at least in some availability). I hope to buy a normal one. ”What is not being done, everything is for the better, apparently it was not destiny to take 2502.

And I'm already studying the instructions for it)) I can't wait to start baking))

Congratulations, Ira! And what kind of kutspili, European or Asian?

Have not bought yet ((Let's just go to the store. Unfortunately, there are no European ((

Have not bought yet ((Let's just go to the store. Unfortunately, there are no European ((

And Panasonic himself, by the way, is Asian (Japanese)

[Wit]

Oops SORI Is it really made in Japan?
Wit , on my European it says "Made in China".

Almost all equipment is assembled in China. Only somewhere for the European market, but somewhere for ours, this is understandable))

Ir, almost all. But even if the technologies are strictly adhered to, the quality still suffers. There is a nameplate on the back wall of the HP, it says where it was made.

Ir, almost all. But even if the technologies are strictly adhered to, the quality still suffers. There is a nameplate on the back wall of the HP, it says where it was made.

Yes, we also sell deliberately defective goods. Either at the same price as the normal one or at a stock ...

Ir, almost all. But even if the technologies are strictly adhered to, the quality still suffers. There is a nameplate on the back wall of the HP, it says where it was made.

Finally, the Japanese (Panasonic) in China built the plant themselves. only Chinese workers (they are paid less than the Japanese, so CP is cheaper). And they know how to work well! Moreover, under the strict control of Panasonic. But as elsewhere, they steal and collect the stolen goods in the barn from Uncle Ju-dzin. Further the path of HP is clear ... As well as Europeans. Often in this barn there is such a dialogue (translated from Chinese):
- Dzin-ju, do we have a Panasonic SD-2502 label with "Made in France"?
- Wait a look. There is one, I will dust the current.
- Then glue it on some thread similar to HP, here the client is waiting.
- Lan, wait.

Yes, the Chinese also know how to do well and produce a lot of worthy things there, and many goods benefit from the quality of others produced in the same Germany or England. But nevertheless, the quality of technology made in China is different from the quality of the same technology made in Japan. Alas.

Vital, your avatar is now so cool and naughty. Do you really have a cat or a cat? I love cats, they require little attention. But the dogs ... By the way, I have a shepherd dog named Lex. Indifferent to bread, but only to white. But with whole grain, he already has abundant salivation, when the bread is baked. And with baking, too.

The Irish are very fond of custard, it is sold everywhere here, both ready-made and in powders. After breakfast, the husband ate this very cream with a spoon and the dog sitting next to it smelled. So then Lex rejected the sausage, give him the cream Well, they poured it, of course, ate

The Irish are also very fond of Banana Bread. I have a recipe in the instructions, I'll bake it, I'll come to tell you. It is served with tea, as a dessert. Straight the most interesting.

Yes, Natasha, there are no cats, but soon they will be. And the muzzle, it seems kind and well-fed. Not enough for anyone yet. But before there was such an avatar:
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And in childhood I was like this
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